I was Muslim but now I’m a Christian . I consider myself Orthodox, I believe in Jesus Christ and he is the way the truth the life . I left Islam after I had a counter , a vision of Jesus Christ and He literally in this encounter showed me his Pure and Holy face, I felt him Heal me just by looking at him . He healed me that night back in December 2023 … since then I have believed in Christ and Experienced just a small taste of his Gift of Love . Jesus Christ Has power, it doesn’t matter that it’s been over 2000 years . Jesus isn’t dead! He is alive ! He is not just a mere prophet .. he is One with The Father of us all. He is holy and pure , and looked so pure and holy…. He was beautiful and The Light That he is .. is still here :) many other Muslims are seeing Jesus , I say to all Muslims .. Turn to him as you are , even if you’re full of sin . Say Lord I’m a sinner and need you to clean me
@@Chris-lf4srNo, as a latin christian, I can say we are the church. Believe it or not we are more strict when talking about the sacraments that the orthodox. In my place, orthodox take communion without confession or even repentance, but they do say to everyone how much they have fasted (which is a sin by the way, because Jesus says if you fast, let no one know). The orthodox also believe in divorce, which the church strictly forbids aa Jesus commanded, what has God unite, man shall not divide. I can go on on how the orthodox are not orthodox at all but it's a long long list...
@@philipgligorov5848 Hello. You said that you were the Church. Not to sound disrespectful but I would say I think it is the opposite. But what I wanted to say is about the divorce. St.Basil says ,,Second marriage is a remedy against fornication, not a means for lasciviousness. ,,If they cannot contain, let them marry (1 Corinthians 7.9).'' (Letter 160). St.Basil the Great is one of the greatest Fathers and is venerated in the Roman Catholic Church, too.
@@bogdanalindaragiu1314 a along as we do the commandment of Jesus to love our God, neighbours and enemies, we will be free of doing any business and gain wealth. But only if we do business by cheating, corruption or by hurting our neighbours then put God first, business is secondary. Obey God first, why do we need to gain wealth?? Because through wealth we will able to help the poor people and our neighbours. So we should not do Robin Hood by taking from the rich and give to the poor, but Christian must not disturb the rich people if the rich people are genuinely rich, and we must work hard ourself to help the helpless.
@@Veritas-dq2hs Yeah but in America I'm way more attracted to people who won't call me an idolator and Mary worshipper. I can't help but feel compassion when I hear of the French Revolution and the ongoing list of Catholic martyrs. Both Catholics and Orthodox also hate secularism. I love my Catholic Brothers and yes we're human and there's been conflicts. But I find myself looking at Protestantism and realizing it was a downfall of humanity and The West.
I am a Traditional Latin Rite Roman Catholic. I love the Eastern Rites and Liturgy. I love the beauty and history of the Orthodox Church. The Orthodox Church is of the True Church. I hope we will reunite once again. My friends of the Orthodox Church and I have talked about how much we hope to be in communion with each other once again, and we have a lot of hope for the future since all excommunications between the Eastern Orthodox and the Catholic Church have been lifted. God bless you Sam for teaching this young man. I hope that one day we will all be together as the One True Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. We have the Unbroken Chain of Succession from the Apostles. God bless all who are in the comment section here. AVE CHRISTUS REX!!!
@gritsteel3225 what is it that was promised by Christ? What was promised by Our Lady of Fatima? The Gates of Hell will not prevail. The apostacy will happen, but the Church will become stronger, greater, and more faithful than ever before. Remain faithful. Pray for the Church. Pray the Rosary daily. Pray the Prayer Rope. Go to a Reverent Mass. Hold the clergy accountable where necessary. Properly catechize the future of the Church, as the clergy has failed us since Vatican 2. The future of the church will be traditional. The youth are attending the Traditional parishes. Heresies within the clergy will be snuffed out. Showing our faith in Christ and his One True Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church will be our victory. AVE! AVE CHRISTUS REX!!!
Cowboy from Texas - used to be Southern Baptist - but now attend a Greek Orthodox Monastery and my whole family (wife and two kids) have been baptized Orthodox. Our daughter lives at a woman's monastery and wants to become an Orthodox nun (she speaks only Greek now), and our son was recently married to an Orthodox woman. We can attend Divine Liturgy every day of the week, and Vespers (evening services) every day of the week. The Divine Liturgy is the heart of the Church, and Communion is the heart of the Liturgy - so we can receive Communion any day of the week, but of course Sunday - the Lord's Day - is our primary day of worship. We attend Matins to prepare for Liturgy, so that's 4 hours of worship. Homilies only happen on special occasions, so once a year or less at the monasteries, and when a homily is given it's simply commentary on the Bible verse they just finished reading before the Homily, so you don't hear any mention of worldly news or life issues, it's just pure worship beginning to end. The priest doesn't face you for most of the service, you mostly see their back as they lead the congregation in worship. No performance stage, no microphones, no modern instruments or video screens - it's just sunlight and candles, even the vigils and evening services are 100% candlelight. No light fixtures or light bulbs. Most Orthodox parishes and monasteries are not designed to make you comfortable - if you become Orthodox you will understand - so a vigil, for example, can go 6-8 hours and there's no seats. If you do find a seat, it's an uncomfortable wooden seat with no padding. It's not proper to sit during most of the service anyway. Our big Pascha service goes from 11pm to 4am, and then we all eat together because we fast at least 40 days leading up to Pascha, this year it was 55 days of fasting (no eggs, meat, dairy or oil/wine). When I was Protestant, I would've fallen asleep in 30 minutes at a service in the middle of the night - but the Orthodox Church is such a beautiful experience even the little kids make it through the whole service to the feast. We know a lot of Greek and can follow the services, but we can also attend nearby Antiochian parishes where the services are in English. It's 100% worship, you can sing from the beginning to the end and these are 2 and 4 hour services. We love the Orthodox Church, it's the most beautiful experience on every level, I literally cannot think of anything we need other than Orthodoxy. It has completed every part of our lives for every one of us. The nuns bake the bread, the monks make the wine, so even Communion is home grown, from the heart, 100% Church without getting any part of it from the world. After Liturgy, we follow the monk procession into Trapeza and we all eat together quietly as a Father reads from the Bible or tells stories of Saints related to the day/time of year. Then we all receive the blessed bread together and head back into the Church for the last prayer. The monks make amazing food, but of course at the women's monasteries they make a wider variety of food and even desserts (the monks never make desserts lol). Visit your local Orthodox Monastery or Parish and let it change your life. Sam is right "God meets you where you are." - God was always with me all along the way. He was with me in the Southern Baptist Church when I was playing guitar with the Pastor every Sunday. But like Sam said - we grew and we learned and so for us the draw came to enter into the Orthodox Church and we obeyed. The Orthodox Church has done such a good of being "not of this world" that most Christian conversations are about Protestant or Catholicism, few people know orthodoxy even exists. AND we have Mt. Athos - a mountain dedicated to Christ and populated only by Orthodox Christian monks since the First Century. Nothing can pull me away from the Orthodox Church now. Like the Apostles said -- "Where would we go?" We can't go back to the rock shows, or the video screens, or the blank walls. The First Century Church still exists, unchanged, and it's Home sweet Home. I wish every Christian could experience the fullness of the Divine Liturgy and the experience of one full calendar year at the Orthodox Church because you'll never leave after that. Christos Anesti!
I read every word and it’s one of the most beautiful stories of non orthodox transitioning into orthodoxy I was born and raised orthodox but it was more cultural and I admit people who found and became orthodox are much more educated about orthodoxy and they appreciate it and live it than us who were brought up in this true Christianity Which is Orthodox Christianity it is very hard to follow but it’s the only true church and it’s worth it, absolutely worth it! Lord Jesus Christ bless you and your beautiful family!❤☦️
Orthodox Church real name is One Holly Catholic and Apostolic Church ....orthodox is here in a context "orthodox catholic" or AUTHENTIC catholic ! Orthodox are catholics with big C! Beside OC we have roman catholics .
I’m American 🇺🇸 and I was baptized in Moldova 🇲🇩 into the Easter orthodox. I had no idea what I was doing at the time as a new Christian, I just wanted to be baptized. but God had it all planned out for me. I am home now in the orthodox. ☦️
Thankful to see a comment coming from an Orthodox in a place of love when there is a lot of division in these comments. I'm a Catholic and I pray we may be one in Christ's presence someday✝❤☦
As long as you don’t disrespect my holy virgin mother of GOD then we don’t have an issue the fact I even have to warn you people to not disrespect Jesus mother is CRAZY
@@Machoman50ta my brother in Orthodox church we feel Mary as mother of us all. To her we turn our eyes to meet her merciful eyes and hug. God bless us all!
Wow 🤩 so I left Jehovah’s Witnesses recently and Sams videos helped me through the Christophany and the New Testament evidence for the trinity. I’m feeling the spirit draw me to Catholicism. I didn’t know Sam was attending the Catholic Church 😮 that makes me feel that god is helping me and the spirit is leading me to the right place!
@@writegillian wow! So you know how anti catholic the JW’s are. The Holy Spirit stepped in or else not sure I could have made it out. The deception is pretty thorough with them.
Just be careful; there is a lot of innovation in the Latin church, not so in the Original Roman Empires Orthodox Catholic Church. The Latin church was under the rule of the german barbarians at the time of the schism not so for the Orthodox Catholic Church, it was still ruled by Rome by Roman Emperors and Bishops, not german barbarian ones that "couldn't" understand the Christology, or, Theology of the Original Roman Orthodox Catholic Church.
hahah i loved this. Im a life long Catholic who was debating on converting to orthodoxy for a long time. But God answered my prayers and told me to stay right where I am. The Holy Orthodox is beautiful and hopefully one day the schism will mend so we will all be known as just, "the church"
Does the Vatican not bother you? the popes thrown surrounded by demonic symbolism? the fallen angels? the Serpent heads? paedophilia? idk but the pope seems to be a tool of globalism to me
When I was deciding between the two, I asked the Lord and he sent me to the Orthodox Church. When I got there, it was closed down and boarded up. I took that as a sign that He really wanted me to go to the Catholic Church, but first wanted me to see the state of things with the Orthodox so I would no longer question which was right.
@@S.O.J.MINISTRIES Brother if you study church history, and read the Bible in the context of said history, you will see that the fullness of the truth is in the Catholic and Orthodox churches. Also it’s not wise to attribute the things of God to the devil. Much love, God Bless ❤️✝️
Yes in the Roman Catholic Church they don't re-marriage, but if you have proven your side that there is no marriage in the beginning the man or woman, can re-marry again. the case will go to the Roman Catholic Tribunal.
Try to read John Chrysostom. He was an important Early Church Father who served as archbishop of Constantinopol. He is a great theologian în ortodox church.
Sam FAILED TO MENTION lol: The Orthodox Nicene Creed is the ORIGINAL FIRST CENTURY CHURCH CREED - the Roman Catholic version didn't exist until 1054 AD - so for 1,000 years all Christians recited the Original Orthodox Nicene Creed unchanged. History 101
Which IS NOT the creed currently professed by the EO. Sorry, revisionist history can't hide the evidence. Regardless, the arguments against the reunification are pointless and based on strawmen. Time to move forward and stop doing the Devil's work by keeping us separated.
The Orthodox Church and Catholic Church were the same until the orthodox split away from the One True Church! Some orthodoxy Churches are inline with Peter/Papacy but those are still CATHOLIC! Those that are not inline with the Authority given by Jesus then your Church is not the true Church meaning beg that the split orthodoxy church comes back to fullness and truth of the One True Faith, if you deny that Our Lord gave the authority of His Church to Peter MATTHEW 16 then you deny the truth! But I do believe that we are bound by God Law and of His Church but God works His mercy how He wills and so if someone outside the Church doesn’t know like what Sam said then of course God shows them much mercy! Also just because the Pope we have right now is spreading teachings against the Church does not make the Catholic Church any less the true Church and the Catholic Church has survived many bad popes and also many saints popes too like Saint Pope Pius X ! But even Our Lord chose Peter to be the vicar ( vicar meaning like a representative in the place of Our Lord on earth - not that Peter can compare obviously but that Our Lord chose to give His authority on Earth and that whatever Peter bound on earth would be bound in Heaven! ) but Our Lord chose Peter even knowing he would deny Him! This shows that just because the Pope is a “bad” one doesn’t mean that we leave the boat and jump off board so to speak as we don’t go to Church for people we like but for God! Also if you see the wolves In shepherds clothing then don’t we have to pray for them so much more for their souls so that they can become good shepherds to the faithful!? God bless!
@@Icy-uo5yh History doesn't support your story. The Orthodox Church is the only Church that never changed anything, proving that it's the First Century Church. When the Latins broke away and started a new religion called Roman Catholicism after 1054AD they changed a lot of things: 1) The RC created a new Creed that didn't exist for the first 1000 years in the Church. The Orthodox Church is the only Church still reciting the ORIGINAL CREED unchanged. 2) The Latins also changed the Communion bread to unleavened bread. For the first 1000 years all Christians received leavened bread for Communion, as it's still done to this day in the Orthodox Church, unchanged. 3) The Latins changed the sign of the cross from right to left, to left to right. For the first 1000 years all Christians did the sign of the cross from right to left, as it's still done to this day in the Orthodox Church, unchanged. 4) In the First Century Church, all the Bishops are equals. The Latins wanted to make the Bishop of Rome a special Bishop with authority over all the other bishops. They had to break away from the Church to do this because the Church wouldn't allow it. So for the first 1000 years of the Church, the Bishops were all equals, as it's still done today in the Orthodox Church. Everything you find in the Roman Catholic church today didn't exist in the first 1000 years. The Catholic lie has fallen apart in the face of historical facts. The Original First Century Church is the Church that never changed anything and still does everything as it was done in the first 1000 years of the Church. That's the Orthodox Church.
@Icy-uo5yh I think it is time for you to open a book. This was painful to read. Catholicism is essentially heresy. It is the first perversion of Christianity. Power and greed twisted.
The real objection of us Orthodox Christians against the Pope is not that he is/or isn’t “The highest authority”, but the fact that he claims to be “perfect” (makes no mistakes). No man can claim that he is never wrong… ONLY GOD makes no mistakes! Furthermore, we do have some other differences too. For example, in Orthodox Church, when we go for confession, the priest never say to us “you are forgiven”. He says “may god forgive you”. He gives you a wish. ONLY GOD can give forgiveness!!! Bottom line is that although Orthodox and Catholics were one in the past, after the schism orthodoxes remained as they were but Catholics in the other hand “evolved” into something different. The Pope thinks that he is divine and his followers also believe the same. For us Orthodoxes, this is blasphemy. Its like heresy
No Catholic believe the pope is perfect and no pope believes they are perfect you are just strawmanning the Catholic position. Also if only God can forgive then why did Jesus tell his disciples that whoever’s sins they forgive will be forgiven and whoever’s sins they retain will be retained
as I learned, no Pope is perfect, but when it is question of some dogma, deep theory of our beleifs, we belive that Holy Spirit leads pope in making some decision. it does not mean for example that he wont be angy for no reason, he is a human, but when it comes to dogma issues we belive his actions and decision will be led by Holy Spirit
Fortunately, dogma/doctrine has to be written in a certain way and/or said ex cathedra. That means the pope ISN’T perfect except when addressing the body of the faithful on matters of Faith and Morals per the above. If a pope, speaking as a fallible man, has something to say that DOESN’T contradict dogma/doctrine/tradition, then it is morally right to accept and follow such statements. (Kind of like when dad says do the dishes, it doesn’t contradict the normal flow of the home. Same goes for the pope.) From PASTOR AETERNUS, “…We teach and define that it is a divinely-revealed dogma: that the Roman Pontiff, when he speaks ex Cathedra, that is, when in discharge of the office of Pastor and Teacher of all Christians, by virtue of his supreme Apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine regarding faith or morals to be held by the Universal Church, by the divine assistance promised to him in blessed Peter, is possessed of that infallibility with which the divine Redeemer willed that His Church should be endowed for defining doctrine regarding faith or morals: and that therefore such definitions of the Roman Pontiff are irreformable of themselves, and not from the consent of the Church. …” catholicplanet.org/councils/20-Pastor-Aeternus.htm Nowhere does it say in the dogmatic constitution that the pope is perfect. Nor does it say that Christians have to obey EVERYTHING he says. Now, the Vatican II document Lumen Gentium has a passage that certainly COULD be considered ultra-hyperpapalist, elevating the pope past his actual authority (as it says in the document pertaining to the “religious”). Chapter III, On the Hierarchical Structure of the Church and in Particular on the Episcopate, 25: “In matters of faith and morals, the bishops speak in the name of Christ and the faithful are to accept their teaching and adhere to it with a religious assent. This religious submission of mind and will must be shown in a special way to the authentic magisterium of the Roman Pontiff, even when he is not speaking ex cathedra; that is, it must be shown in such a way that his supreme magisterium is acknowledged with reverence, the judgments made by him are sincerely adhered to, according to his manifest mind and will. His mind and will in the matter may be known either from the character of the documents, from his frequent repetition of the same doctrine, or from his manner of speaking.” It doesn’t specify the laity having to obey everything the pope says. Again, I said it COULD be considered ultra-hyperpapalist in terms of the religious/episcopacy. www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19641121_lumen-gentium_en.html For the issue of the Catholic Church not being apostolic, I’m operating under the assumption that there were opportunists who pushed for reforms in Catholicism that run contrary to orthodoxy that the Orthodox clerics on the committee of Vatican II would not accept the liturgy without a major changes. From the Venerable Archbishop Fulton Sheen’s Communism and the conscience of the West” by Fulton J Sheen, 1948: “…He will set up a counter Church which will be the ape of the Church because, he the devil, is the ape of God. It will be the mystical body of the anti-Christ that will in all externals resemble the church as the mystical body of Christ. …” www.virgosacrata.com/antichrist-signs-of-our-times.html
@@julianpauls98 It's literally called "Papal supremacy" lmao, you are the one "strawmanning the Catholic position". "Papal supremacy is the doctrine of the Catholic Church that the Pope, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ, the visible source and foundation of the unity both of the bishops and of the whole company of the faithful, and as pastor of the entire Catholic Church, has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered: that, in brief, "the Pope enjoys, by divine institution, supreme, full, immediate, and universal power in the care of souls.""
About the orthodox marriage. The ideal is to get married once and whatever happens to stay true to your vows , that means even if your spouse cheats on you the ideal you would be not to get a divorce . And only for cheating your are allowed to get a divorce. And let’s say that you got a divorce and you want to remarry , then the church is asking God for forgiveness that you are remarrying. In your first sacramental marriage the priest gives you all the blessings and in your second he is asking for forgiveness. So even though that the Orthodox Church allows 3 marriages she acknowledges that only one is „valid“ let me say
I share the exact mantra. I don't get into the divisions with our Orthodox family. We have our disagreements but we can work towards agreement. We share the Apostolic faith! Amen!
For Orthodoxy, check out Father Stephen De Young from Lord of Spirits podcast. He is well versed in Theology and holds a ph.d in biblical studies. Also, Jonathan Pageau is great to!
I would recommend against Jonathan Pageau. He's an artist who looks to Orthodoxy for inspiration for his art and ideas about symbolism. He's not in the same league as an ordained priest. You're going to get a philosophical discourse on the one and the many from Pageau. You're not going to get closer to theosis.
I love Catholics, Orthodox and Protestant doctrine. Raised Catholic, now Protestant. My pb with Cath is Mary as "mother of God" and the pope, and all authoritatian hierarchy, like, sorry but who decided that u are more holy and virtuous than me. I am a sinner, everyday even at my best i need the blood of Jesus, and so do the all the Cath and Ortho hierarchy, they are not levitating above us. And the bowing to statues and Saints, idols...just what God told us not to do. But i still go to Cath mass, in my own way for Jesus.
Luke 1:41-43 41 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? In what way is this holy spirit filled declaration by Elizabeth false? Is she not the mother of your Lord? It's a statement of fact. God established an authoritative church and a hierarchical priesthood on earth for our sake. Nobody said the successors of Peter and the Apostles are superior to you in holiness and virtue.
True. There can be problems to the statement "the mother of GOD". A mother is defined as the "source" of a child. Mary isn't the sorce of GOD. So it truly can be problematic
@@regisbergeron5595I grew up Catholic, Luke 1:47-48 makes it’s clear that the story is about Christ being her Savior. I disagree with praying to Mary only Christ can forgive sins. I understand the prayer is asking her to pray on ones behalf. But that is not Jesus’s teachings. Revelations chapter 2 Jesus is addressing the 7 churches of Asia. Saying what they are doing right and what they are doing wrong. Jesus speaks of the church of Pergamos and praises them for their faith but points out they have fallen from the path. They sacrifice onto idols and commit fornication. Rev 2:14. Sounds a lot like the modern Catholic Church and Orthodox Church. Still the two churches do a lot of Good. And also historically have done a lot of Bad. That being said we have to remember the head of the Church is Christ not a pope. the real church is his followers. Not the buildings we go to. Rev: chapter 2 and 3 is good insight on what we should do when we gather as believers. Corinthians reminds us to be aware of false teachings. Luke 11:42 when Jesus is talking about the Pharisees. Counting out 10% of their mint but neglecting the big issues. This Speaks volumes to me follow the teaching of Christ not the religion. To me it’s clear Jesus will have a lot of words about the modern churches . But we have to remember to follow his teachings. It is not the holy water, the building the rituals that saves us. No it is Him and choosing to walk with him and following his direction. A lot of “Christians” won’t be saved. It’s a narrow path only an individual knows if they walk with him.
you can see that Satan uses the seed of confusion to seperate them not by interpertations only but language olso its sad but in the end times there will be one church and i'am excited what God will do and i'pray for unity Amen.
The gates of hell will not prevail against the Church. Only one of them is the true church, not “split in two.” And by that measure I would say who subtracted or added to the list of doctrines and dogmas that were taught by Lord Jesus Christ, the Apostles and the very early Church Fathers? And I reiterate added and/or subtracted beliefs, doctrines and dogmas; not expounding on or reiterating preexisting doctrine and dogma. Once you know who added or subtracted to the beliefs of the Early Church you know who the false church is. The True Church has stayed faithful to the teachings of the Apostles for nearly 2,000 years, unchanged.
@@chrischris3922we have so many miracles as catholics. The eucharistic ones are amazing. Science can't explain it either. Also Mary appearances . For example Guadalupe in Mexico tilma also defies science
As a former Roman Catholic, now Eastern Orthodox, i love both. However i believe the Orthodox have their hearts set on the core of the faith, that is the teachings and traditions of the church fathers. This sets them apart from the Latins, who are really from an orthodox viewpoint, a branch from the true church who have their own dogmas and ideas about what the true church is. They focus more on what their popes do and view their theology through the lens of different papal decrees who they claim is acting as the head of the church. Whereas the Orthodox still view Christ as the head of the church.
But the visible head of the church is the Pope (The invisible head is Christ), even doctors of your EO church like St. John Chrysostom say that Peter was the chosen one of the Apostles to be the leader of the "See of the whole world" which is the Holy See in Rome, it's a teaching grounded in the fathers
Who is head of orthodox Moscow or Constantinople. Orthodox Church is fundamentally broken. You claim they are all autosepheles when Constantinople created moscow patriarch he acted just like the pope would
It's true that many church fathers recognized the Bishop of Rome as a "first among equals", seeing him as a reference point for apostolic teaching. For instance, St. Iranaeus famously wrote, "Because of its greater authority (propter potentiorem principalitatem), it is necessary that every Church, that is, the faithful who are everywhere, should agree (convenire), because in her the apostolic tradition has always been safeguarded by those who are everywhere.” There are several others whose writings are filled with high praise for the Pope. However, that doesn't mean that the Pope had a V1-style charism of "papal infallibility." Even reading through some of the fathers who heaped praised on the Bishop of Rome, you find nothing about him possessing universal authority or the unique charism of infallibility "when speaking ex-cathedra." Even some Catholic scholars (notable, Brian Tierney) write that papal infallibility is an innovation. That being said, I don't think there will ever be unity between the Churches until this doctrine is done away with completely. It wasn't the pope who held things together for the first 1000 years; it was the Holy Spirit speaking through the bishops possessing the apostolic faith.
@@AlexanderTheFarmer dude probably can't even articulate the specific reason why he left our church, these type of guys can only win an ecclesiology debate against some evangelical protestant but that's low hanging fruit, but let me not speak too much lol
I too am currently Protestant and am intrigued by Orthodoxy teachings. There are things though that I am having trouble with, like for instance, prating for already passed on dead Saints. As a Protestant I thought we pray FOR those only on earth and then pray directly TO Christ. I feel like I am getting a little lost in the nuances of it all......Blessings to you
@@lynchcreekmuzzy5759 Likewise brother, that among some other teachings I cannot grasp as being not sinful or at the very least unnecessary. God bless you brother.
@@lynchcreekmuzzy5759 I feel like you could learn a lot about how we get distracted and tear each other down in this comment section... To my best and most honest understanding, Orthodox and Catholics do not pray TO the saints, they ask the saints to pray with/for them, or embolden and strengthen their faith through prayer. Growing up protestant, I've heard all of the slander against catholics, and the "praying to icons" thing is one of the most popular; It's just another way to attack each other and assert our own arrogant supremacy in worship, and it's wrong. For me, one of the most important perspective to keep is this: We all agree, Jesus Christ is lord, and without question we are his flock, and we follow him... Jesus did not come to write a book, I'm not positive that he ever asked anyone to write down anything. Jesus came to spread the truth, and establish a church that maintains and continues to spread that truth of his teachings. I cannot in good faith separate Jesus and his teachings from his church, which means I'd be a fool to slander the apostolic traditions. "By scripture alone" sounds good, and I don't think it's bad, but that certainly doesn't align with the greater context of why Jesus was sent to the earth... Thankfully God is loving, and merciful. As Sam said, I truly believe we're all a part of the flock, and we'll all be called into god's kingdom regardless of whether or not we fast, have been water baptized, or take part in communion. There are a lot of interesting things to look at or talk about, but loving, worshipping, and knowing Jesus is truly the most important thing, and if we can focus on that we'll spend far more time embracing each other opposed to debating the most correct way to worship.
@@lynchcreekmuzzy5759 I converted from EO to Catholicism. You should pray the 15 decade Rosary and it will help you discern. That's how I converted to Catholicism since it's the true Faith.
@@AlexanderTheFarmerpapal infallibility didn’t exist in the early church. Rome has innovated way too much and invented doctrine that wasn’t present in the first century. Orthodoxy is the original true Faith.
Ti kanis, Sam, kala? Greek orthodox here. Since you asked and it's a sin to lie I must confess your Greek is perfectible but I appreciated the effort and encourage you to exercise. Travel to Greece, we will welcome you. Now concerning the creed, there was no filioque in the creed composed by the Ecumenical Councils of Nicea and Constantinople. Here is the "clarification" concerning the filioque published in 1995 at the request of pope John-Paul II : _The Catholic Church acknowledges the conciliar, ecumenical, normative and irrevocable value, as expression of the one common faith of the Church and of all Christians, of the Symbol professed in Greek at Constantinople in 381 by the Second Ecumenical Council. No profession of faith peculiar to a particular liturgical tradition can contradict this expression of the faith taught and professed by the undivided Church._ L'Osservatore Romano 20 September 1995, page 3 In plain English : the addition of the filioque was peculiar to a particular liturgical tradition, and is not the conciliar, ecumenical, normative and irrevocable universal creed. As a result, the orthodox Church always professed the universal (catholic) creed. While the Roman Church professed the universal creed until 1014 and then switched for a _profession of faith peculiar to a particular liturgical tradition._ Since Vatican 2 it seems that the filioque has been progressively dropped during the recitation of the credo but I am not sure about that (anyone can confirm?). Now why is the orthodox Church the one professing the universal creed and not the Roman Church who pretended during almost a thousand years to be the universal (catholic) Church alone? Not because we orthodox are smarter or better but because we take what Christ said first degree : "_But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:_" John 15:26 If Jesus said that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and didn't say the Holy Spirit also proceeds from him, who are we humans to add words in His mouth? The Roman Church on the other hand took the habit to listen to what the Roman Pontiff says rather and therefore was less prudent than we were. And that go far beyond changes made to the Creed. Now if you are interested I will explain how the Roman Church came to add the _filioque_ into the creed. But this is a subject for another post.. So we have seen that the Roman Church once pretended to be the only true Church and since Vatican II Rome is saying that the Orthodox Church is ALSO the true Church. We orthodox did nothing in between so that evolution came only from the Romans. That means that Rome contradicted her own doctrine in 1962, and is now saying that her own previous doctrine was wrong without saying it. But for us, there is a problem with the recent doctrine as well : We profess in the creed that we believe in _one saint catholic apostolic Church_ . Not TWO of them! And, despite what Rome wants to make believe, we are NOT in communion : A Roman Catholic can't take part to the Eucharist in an orthodox divine liturgy. So we orthodox don't accept neither of the old and new doctrines of the Romans. We believe, since antiquity, that the _one saint catholic and apostolic Church_ is the orthodox Church. Rome was once part of that Church but decided unilaterally to separate from the orthodox Church in the 11th century. The return of the Roman Church within orthodoxy is only possible if Rome embraces the orthodox faith once again. Which is not an easy task to say the least and will requite tons of humility. But nothing is impossible to the Lord. Kyrie eleison.
As I said I will explain how the Roman Church came to modify the creed. The holy Creed was created as a tool of unity of the Church. This is important to keep in mind. It reflects the intentions of those who wanted to change it outside of canonical procedures. The early Apostles' creed was completed by the ecumenical councils of Nicea (325AD) and Constantinople (381AD) in Greek. It states that we believe _in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and Giver of life, who proceedeth from the Father, who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified, who spoke by the prophets._ In 800AD the Frankish-German Charlemagne conquered and offered the byzantine province of Ravenna (including the ruins of Rome) to the pope in exchange of his own coronation as "Roman Emperors of the West". This removed the papacy from the protection of the Eastern Roman Emperor and placed him under the protection of Charlemagne. Ten years later Charlemagne send a delegation to the pope requesting him to add the filioque to the holy creed. Such a unilateral alteration to the tool of the unity of the Church could only mean a schism between Rome and the rest of the Church, a schism that would increase Charlemagne's control over the West. Fortunately we possess the minutes of the meeting. Saint Pope Leo II explained that he had no such power (no pontifical monarchy back then) and he nailed two silver shields to the doors of his basilica with the text of the unaltered creed (without the filioque) engraved in Greek and in Latin along with this sentence : I, LEO, DID THIS FOR THE SAKE AND LOVE OF THE ORTHODOX FAITH. The following popes of Rome defended the orthodox faith against the Carolingian dynasty. The dispute reached the East and in 879-880 the 8th ecumenical council was held in Constantinople with representatives of saint pope of Rome John VIII and anathematized anyone who dares to add or remove anything to or from the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed. This was not well received by someone and in 882 saint pope John VIII was murdered with a hammer. A war hammer. The German weapon of choice. A period of chaos and shame followed in Rome as Germans and Italians fought to control the chair of Peter. A new pope each year. A pope exhuming the decomposing corpse of his predecessor to judge him and nullify his pontificate. When the counts of Tuscullum managed to control the papacy a scandalous period started known as the Pornocratia, or Rule of the Harlot (not the subject of this post though). The last count of Tuscullum pope was expelled from Rome in 1014 and asked the German king Henry II to restore him. The Carolingian dynasty was already extinct by then. Henry marched on Rome, restored the Pope and in exchange the pope crowned him Emperor and added the filioque during the coronation mass on February 14 1014, self-anathematizing himself in the process. The Germanic emperors started to impose German popes, the second of which was the count Bruno von Egisheim-Dagsburg who became pope Leo IX in 1050. At that period the Normans were invading the Byzantine province of Sicily. Leo IX landed in Sicily at the head of his army (what do you expect from a German pope?) in order to take control of the island. He ordered the local bishops to drop the byzantine rite in favor of the Latin one. The bishops asked Constantinople what to do. The Patriarch Michel's answer was to ignore Leo's demand which infuriated the Pope. Leo IX wrote a letter to Michel claiming the universal jurisdiction over the entire Church based on the Donation of Constantine he hold for genuine. That Donation is a forged imperial decree by which Constantin the Great allegedly transferred the imperial insignia to the papacy and was certainly created to justify Charlemagne's coronation. Leo IX claimed the imperial insignia for himself and officially constituted a Pontifical State with a Senate (the assembly of Cardinals wearing the senatorial scarlet and purple) and a State Chancellor, the infamous Humbert de Moyenmoutiers. But Leo IX suffered total defeat at the Battle of Civitate on 15 June 1053 and became hostage of the Normans from June 1053 to March 1054 and died short after they released him in on 19 April 1054. Humbert, who ruled the State in his absence learned about his death while he was traveling to Constantinople in order to receive official recognition of the newborn state by the Eastern roman emperor. The official meeting went smoothly but Humbert also delivered an insulting letter to Patriarch Michel allegedly from the dead pope in which Leo IX accused Michel to be a woman in drag. Humbert deposed also an excommunication bull in Agia Sophia accusing the "Greeks" of removing the filioque from the original creed and a few other ineptness. Michel excommunicated Humbert in return but he was far away and the guards send to arrest him didn't reached him before he was out of the borders. That's the story of the 1054 schism from the Orthodox side. 20 years later, Rome proclaimed in the encyclical Dictatus Papae to be the entirety of the catholic church alone, that the Roman Pontiff alone could hold the imperial insignia, that all the princes are to kiss the feet of the Roman Pontiff alone etc. The Gregorian Reformation was on tracks and Roman Catholicism was born. There was a little issue though : The 8th ecumenical council and its anathematization of the filioquists. A solution was found : just remove John VIII from the list of the popes, and voilà! So in 1476 one could read in the official biography of the popes written by the prefect of the Vatican library the following entry for pope John VIII : _Pope John VIII: John, of English extraction, was born at Mentz (Mainz) and is said to have arrived at popedom by evil art; for disguising herself like a man, whereas she was a woman, she went when young with her paramour, a learned man, to Athens, and made such progress in learning under the professors there that, coming to Rome, she met with few that could equal, much less go beyond her, even in the knowledge of the scriptures; and by her learned and ingenious readings and disputations, she acquired so great respect and authority that upon the death of Pope Leo IV (as Martin says) by common consent she was chosen pope in his room. As she was going to the Lateran Church between the Colossean Theatre (so called from Nero's Colossus) and St. Clement's her travail came upon her, and she died upon the place, having sat two years, one month, and four days, and was buried there without any pomp._ The Protestants weaponized that fable against the papacy so in 1601 John VIII was rehabilitated but not the 8th ecumenical Council and Rome never canonized him as a saint martyr. He's a Saint Martyr of the orthodox Church though. Kyrie eleison
Αδερφέ φαίνεται ότι έχεις πολλές γνώσεις πάνω στη θρησκεία ία ήθελα να σου κάνω μια ερώτηση:Γιατι υπάρχουν οι εικονες στην εκκλησία απτή στιγμή που στη βίβλο ο Θεός λέει ότι δεν πρέπει να φτιάχνετε ομοιώματα και εικόνες και να τις προσκυνατε ..επίσης γιατί όλοι προσεύχονται στην Παναγία και στους αγίους. Σε ρωτάω επειδή είμαι καινούργιος στη θρησκεία και σκοπεύω να βαπτιστω αλλά αυτά με τις εικόνες και με τους αγίους δεν μου κολλάνε (η προσευχές και τα προσκυνηματα εννοω).Θα ήμουν πολύ ευγνώμων αν μου απαντούσες 😊
Greek orthodox, here. I love all who believe in Jesus Christ, the incarnated Word of God the Father and the Holly Spirit. And yes the Holly Spirit proceeds from the Father only. p.s. and i love those who doesnt know Jesus yet. I wish to them someday to know Him.
@@t.d6379 What is your evidence for claiming its fake? Im sure orthodox can just claim all the catholic miracles are fake too, where does that bring us? Nowhere.
Dr. Jeannie Constantinou, historian, theologian, lawyer, author, professor and Presbytera, is an excellent resource on Orthodox Christianity. She is readily available on UA-cam and podcasts on Ancient Faith Radio. Her numerous books are also readily available. Some recent ones are Thinking Orthodox and The Crucifixion of the King of Glory.
Sam if you want to learn more about orthodoxy Go to visit the holy mountain of Athos in Greece 🇬🇷 the garden of the holy mother Virgin Mary. the amount of saints that place has produce it’s incredible Last one died here In the United states in Arizona ( elder efraim ) He build 19 monasteries 3 in Canada and the rest all over the United States His body it’s in Saint Antony’s monastery in Arizona ☦️
In the end every church will meet the alpha and omega and he will judge every Christian and everyone will be rewarded according to his will.I went and found a church that spirit show me and heart of God is there .God is there and love's this church so i worship God there .😅
You found a corrupt false religion that worships Mary, stole the authority away from Jesus and the scriptures, sacrifices Jesus thousands of times a day, has you calling sinful men "holy father" and believes that Jesus is not the only means of salvation but you can actually buy your way into heaven through works and opening up an actual vault of stored up good works to give them to people who submit to the church.
I'm Catholic, but for the past few years Orthodoxy has been very attractive for their way of thinking and especially (in my opinion) the solemn and beautiful atmosphere of their Holy Liturgy. I pray for the purification of the churches, for the heretical ones to fall, and for the true ones to grow closer to the truth. I also pray for true ecumenism, that is true unity in the churches, as even Christ Himself prayed for the united of his disciplines, so that the world would know that God had sent Him. We should not condemn other believers or churches for their differences if those differences are not heretical. We should be bringing all of our closest brothers and sisters closer to the truth by encouraging them towards a fuller faith. I think that above all, what keeps us all together, surely, is Christ, and by putting Him and His will first, we are not to fear. Take heart, for Christ has won the world!
@@Yasen.DobrevProtestant comment or prideful Orthodox comment based on your name. Roman and Greek versions structured Christianity that's the only difference. Now anglo protestants are the biggest heretics out with their freestyle of the Bible and scriptures. LGBTQ female pastors says it all. No wonder so many of their sheep have fallen away.
Orthodoxy is the true creed. the most authentic church, the very first one. And for us greeks is super important. Is the continuity of the neoplatonic philosophy, and the new testament was written in Greek. It was translated in latin like in the 11th century!!! The orthodox priest will tell you that he is a sinner, and he represent the people to the God. We don't have a Pope, because to us christianity is spirituality in depth, not politics...
Greek Orthodox Christian here. Of course i respect all humans. Of course i feel all Christians as brothers in Jesus' grace. About filioque, i just feel that reading John 14 and John 15 plus Mathew 3 that my mind goes more to the orthodox explanation that the Holy Spirit has Father as the source and Son as the way to guide It.
Ex Hindu & ex evangelical, now Catholic convert as of this year. I love witnessing Protestants becoming curious about the apostolic Church. As a Catholic, of course I will say that the papacy and filioque are true and totally encourage anyone interested in the Eastern tradition to go to Eastern Catholic rites. You get the best of both worlds! Full communion with Rome and the Eastern tradition. Either way, like Sam said, you are accountable to the knowledge you know! I was scared to convert to Catholicism when I was evangelical bc it meant losing friends and community but I knew it was the Truth so I had to obey the Holy Spirit. May Christ lead you Cam to where He is calling you to be greater!
Orthodox church is pretty much same but with black clothes, no imaginary bullshit like purgatory, no sin forgiveness for money (indulgence), no church states, no inquisition and witch hunts, no pedophilia and no to canonizing of sins , i guess there are some more differences but this is enough to make my point
While there are significant differences between the Orthodox and Catholic Churches, there are a few misconceptions in your comment that need clarification: Black Clothes: Both Orthodox and Catholic clergy wear various liturgical colors depending on the occasion and tradition. Black is commonly worn by Orthodox monks and priests, but not exclusively. Purgatory: Orthodox theology does have a concept similar to purgatory, though it is not as formally defined as in Catholicism. Indulgences: The Catholic Church no longer practices the sale of indulgences, and modern indulgences are about spiritual growth and repentance. Church States: The Catholic Church historically had temporal power, but today the Vatican City is the only remaining church state, functioning primarily as a spiritual and administrative center. Inquisition and Witch Hunts: These were specific historical events largely tied to the Catholic Church, but they don't define the modern church. Pedophilia: Unfortunately, both churches have faced issues with abuse, and both are working on addressing them. Canonizing of Sins: Neither church canonizes sins. Canonization refers to declaring someone a saint, not approving of sinful behavior.
@@KaiRhoXP all you wrote was a cheap cope. I consider anyone who follows teachings of Jesus Christ as my brother in Christ but I doubt there are any in Catholic church
@@elkaprul7762start micro-dosing. The way you follow our Lord and Savior is toxic. Fast, repent, and pray for forgiveness and to receive the Holy Spirit. Nasty person.
But Chist establishes 1 church, and promised to guide it. The Catholic Church doesn't have "elements" of the truth, it is the truth. No church established and guided by God can be anything but the truth.
@@chukulan show me any other example where in the Bible or anywhere else anyone gets it right 100%. Besides Jesus they all made mistakes and had misunderstandings and for anyone to think they know 100% of anything isn’t all that different from the Pharisees Jesus himself spoke against.
@@chukulan ok but Jesus and the church he established isn’t the same thing. So now you are saying that the Catholic Church has made no mistakes? I don’t believe there is anything ran by man with no mistakes.
The big decider for me was married priests and the Uniate situation. Almost all of the apostles were married in the Bible and I want to join the priesthood one day. God brought my wife into my life and she saved me in many ways. Yet I still feel called to the priesthood. Nextly, the Uniates were manipulated and strong armed into joining the Roman church. They kept their theology, liturgy, saints etc but they had to say they submit to Rome. Roman Catholic leaders in Poland, or Hungary for example forced them to submit to Rome or they wouldn’t be allowed to go to their Church services. This was the protocol for most Uniate churches and is a very Pharisee like act which focuses on the outward instead of the inward.
The only apostle we are certain of being married based on the scripture was only Peter plus Easter rites of the Catholic Church definitely allows married men to enter priesthood.
@@elle9082 eastern rites are basically Orthodox who are politically forced to be Catholic. Peter was the Pope and if the Pope can be married why not a simple priest.
My (Latin rite) Catholic priest is married...? The Catholic Church does limit how many married priests are allowed in a given diocese at once (the limit is two), but they are allowed.
@@deacon6221 Usually married priests are converts from either Orthodoxy or Protestantism who were married before converting. You cannot get married once you are ordained though. Also worth noting that this is not a dogma or doctrine, it's just a disciplinary rule that the Church could change in the future should it determine it to be the right course of action. But yeah, right now the rule is marriage -> ordination is allowed, but not ordination -> marriage. There are about 120 married Catholic priests in the US right now.
I am a Catholic from Croatia...from Sinj, the largest sanctuary of the Blessed Virgin Mary in Croatia...A sea of people comes on pilgrimage .. the churches are always full...That's why I was surprised when I came to Germany and saw an empty church...And until a few years ago, I didn't know that so much was said against the Catholic Church... and that from Christians like us... they don't worship the Blessed Virgin Mary and say that she is a mere mortal...If only the Mother of God were the same as us... that is absolutely impossible... but of course there are tares in every grain...Which is completely normal because of course Satan wants to get in everywhere....I've been listening to Sam for a long time and I admire....and at the same time I'm ashamed of how little I know....even though I've read the old and new testament....The one with the pictures....went to mass every Sunday....and in our house prayer was mandatory - thank God that it was like that...and now I read the New Testament every night before going to bed....And I pray to the Dear God 🙏🏼✝️
Brothers and sisters- we are focusing on Christ’ teaching alone and not on labeling. Sam- you are the man. Thank you for sharing your knowledge on scriptures to the world.
As a former Roman catholic I had questions but I found the answers to those questions through the early church and church Father's, after a few years, we could no long stay away and join the Eastern Orthodox Church that is Holy Catholic and Apostolic
@@OrthodoxStudy-wd5nkread early church fathers and you will get your answer. It shows the students of the apostles and bishops reporting to Rome. Problem was Arianism
I’m a devote Catholic who participates in the Norvus Ordo. Catholic and Orthodox are both undeniably _Holy_ and _Apostolic,_ but both sides will exclusively claim the _One_ and _Catholic_ characteristic of their respective *_Church._* I believe you need to AT LEAST be in a _Holy_ and _Apostolic_ Church for the *sacraments/mysteries* to be life giving *grace,* and thus remain a branch of His vine. We have a varied teaching on this: if someone realizes and is no longer ignorant to the _One_ and _Catholic_ characteristic of the *Church* and does NOT respond by being in communion with said Church, then your soul is in deep jeopardy.
Look at the Orthodox Ethos with Fr.Peter Heers. Or Patristic Nectar with Fr. Josiah Trenham. They make excellent video on explaining the faith. I learned a lot since I've been inquiring on Easter Orthodoxy.
Catholicism is Jesus’ one true church, do not deny the authority our Lord gave to Peter in Matthew 16: 18-19. Side note…….. "binding" and" loosing" means to have indisputable authority…… another problem the eastern churches cannot answer….. come back to Jesus’ one True, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church eastern brothers.
“The Latins listen to Satan on their Filioque Doctrine” - St. Gregory of Palamas. Who is also a saint in the Catholic Church lmao. If you compare the Catholic Church, today, and the Catholic Church 1000 years ago, it is completely unrecognizable.
@@LilKevv I’m aware of what Eastern Catholics actually do, but I’m also aware of the fact that they shouldn’t be doing it according to the teaching of the Magisterium
In the First Council of Constantinople (381) Filioque didn't exist ( The Holy Spirit proceedeth from the Father). In the late 6th century, some Latin-speaking churches added the word Filioque ("and the Son") to the description of the procession of the Holy Spirit. Greek Orthodox here , God bless you.
they are not...the beliefs that they hold are NOT absolute to to what Jesus, and even the disciples, put forth. Read your bible to know the truth on that, and if you do, you wouldnt say this falsehood. Praying for the dead....worship of Mary and more, for starters, are things Christ and the disciples preached against.
So yell believe that the church fell into error from its inception? That all apostolic churches from all corners of the globe embraced this heresy from the beginning. That's not logical, historically it's blatant to see that the Protestants changed doctrines, and they are the ones in error. AND have perverted the true faith. Jews have been praying for the dead since before the time of christ,
Greek orthodox here. Also we allow only one proper marriage but if someone wants to be married again, like a second or third time we read to the couple a forgiveness wish (ευχή).
As a roman catholic, we also confess the nicean creed,. its not a matter who originate it,. its a strengthen confession by the catholic to defeat Arianism and other early christian heretics that Jesus is only man, not God, therefore the Nicaean creed on the council of nicea strengthen the apostles creed thus affirming jesus is God , TRUE GOD From TRUE GOD BEGOTTEN NOT MADE, CONSUBSTANTIAL with the FATHER!.. now a days roman catholic confess the apostles creed version or nicean creed version without difference in mind, since Ancient Heretic like Arianism died,. if times comes another heretic sect of catholism comes,, surely nicean creed is best to go to.. to sslap their face again, like one famous saint do.
My brother Catholic didn’t split from ortodox Church, ortodox split from Catholic Church. Saint Matthew 16,18, Saint Luke 22,31,32. Saint John 21,15, Jesús left Peter as the head of his church. The Pope San Damaso the first wrote a letter to Saint Geronimo where Peter is that’s Christ Church. Please read from the book of Acts from Chapter 1 till Chapter 15 who’s the boss of the church. May God bless.
@@denisealfaro915 Christ is the rock and "boss" of the Church. The Ancient Church (Orthodoxy) remains steadfast. No new doctrines without the agreement of all of the Patriarch Bishops of Jerusalem, Antioch, Conatatinople, Alexandria and Rome. We patiently wait your return.
@@rail_bender5205 Ortodox Church sounds ProRestant for me, I wonder why Sam became Catholic not Ortodox. Jesus is the head of the church, but he left a man in charge of his church in earth and that’s Peter then the Apostolic Sucetion. Linus, Cletus , Clement till pope Francis 266 bishops.
@@rail_bender5205read Matthew 16:18-19 against Old Testament Isaiah 22:22. You will see the pre- figured authority given to Peter. Authority given to a single person when the master is away. Isaiah 22:22 "I will place on his shoulder the key to the house of David; what he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open". In this passage, the Lord grants authority to Eliakim, the new steward of the king's court, to wear the key to the Davidic kingdom, or "house of David". The key symbolizes Eliakim's authority, which allows him to admit or exclude people. Matthew 16:19 "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven". In this passage, Peter is given keys to the Davidic kingdom, or "kingdom of heaven". The keys symbolize Peter's authority, which allows him to admit or exclude things, or "bind and loose" them.
Clear, concise video. If you're looking for a good Orthodox scholar, I highly recommend A. Edward Siecienski, especially his book, The Papacy and the Orthodox
But the thing about the filluque (excuse my spelling) the Nicene Creed was done like the Orthodox church before the split of the church in 1043 and the Catholics split from the church cuz they changed the creed and said about the papal authority over all bishops
@@danielc8263the ones that did not want to continue following the Roman Catholic Church. Is the same with protestants, does not agree with some doctrine or decision made and decide to move
Luke 12: 47-48 " And that servant who knew the will of his lord, and prepared not himself, and did not according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. And unto whomsoever much is given, of him much shall be required: and to whom they have committed much, of him they will demand the more."
Eastern n western catholics its different only in tradition and perspective we are brothers n sister with the same roots same apostle and teachings . Sam please reach out ELIA MYRON FROM INDONESIA HE IS AMAZING
I was muslim now im Eastern Orthodox ☦️🇦🇱
God bless
Praise the Lord !❤
God bless you 🙏
God bless you brother in Christ you have come back ❤
@@AHMiteva God bless You my brother
I'm Catholic, but I love the Orthodox. All love for Orthodox Christian and Eastern Catholics!!
Love you too ☦️
Why don’t you convert then ?
@alexmoreau2581 Why don’t you then? Same question
@@alexmoreau2581because I love Catholic
@@alexmoreau2581 If you love sinners why don't you sin
I was Muslim but now I’m a Christian . I consider myself Orthodox, I believe in Jesus Christ and he is the way the truth the life . I left Islam after I had a counter , a vision of Jesus Christ and He literally in this encounter showed me his Pure and Holy face, I felt him Heal me just by looking at him . He healed me that night back in December 2023 … since then I have believed in Christ and Experienced just a small taste of his Gift of Love . Jesus Christ Has power, it doesn’t matter that it’s been over 2000 years . Jesus isn’t dead! He is alive ! He is not just a mere prophet .. he is One with The Father of us all. He is holy and pure , and looked so pure and holy…. He was beautiful and The Light That he is .. is still here :) many other Muslims are seeing Jesus , I say to all Muslims .. Turn to him as you are , even if you’re full of sin . Say Lord I’m a sinner and need you to clean me
May the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ be close to you, may he shine upon you and give you His peace. Salvation is in Christ alone, may God bless you
God bless u brother ❤
I love being Catholic and I love my Orthodox brothers and sisters.
I hope we will reunite into one body, because Christ is one.
More like stepcousins. The Latins moved away from the Church starting in AD 1054.
@@Chris-lf4srNo, as a latin christian, I can say we are the church. Believe it or not we are more strict when talking about the sacraments that the orthodox. In my place, orthodox take communion without confession or even repentance, but they do say to everyone how much they have fasted (which is a sin by the way, because Jesus says if you fast, let no one know). The orthodox also believe in divorce, which the church strictly forbids aa Jesus commanded, what has God unite, man shall not divide. I can go on on how the orthodox are not orthodox at all but it's a long long list...
@@philipgligorov5848 Hello. You said that you were the Church. Not to sound disrespectful but I would say I think it is the opposite. But what I wanted to say is about the divorce. St.Basil says ,,Second marriage is a remedy against fornication, not a means for lasciviousness. ,,If they cannot contain, let them marry (1 Corinthians 7.9).'' (Letter 160). St.Basil the Great is one of the greatest Fathers and is venerated in the Roman Catholic Church, too.
@@Chris-lf4sr Actually, it was the Orthodox who moved away. It's an easy argument to win.
Romanian Orthodox here ☦️🙏🏻🇷🇴
Doamne ajuta,frate intru Hristos Domnul☦️
Domnul sa binecuvanteze ortodoxia
@@eueu8163Doamne ajuta☦️!
I am Armenian, we are the first Christian Nation 🇦🇲 and I am VERY proud about that
I am Ethiopian Orthodox also the first Christian nation, We love and respect our sister Armenian church.
Good, so as a first Christian Nation expected more good example of Christian citizens for the world to see.
@@rodriquenongkynrih6665 the worlds wants to see capitalism and christianity doesn't look very good if you are a capitalist.
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@@bogdanalindaragiu1314 a along as we do the commandment of Jesus to love our God, neighbours and enemies, we will be free of doing any business and gain wealth. But only if we do business by cheating, corruption or by hurting our neighbours then put God first, business is secondary. Obey God first, why do we need to gain wealth?? Because through wealth we will able to help the poor people and our neighbours. So we should not do Robin Hood by taking from the rich and give to the poor, but Christian must not disturb the rich people if the rich people are genuinely rich, and we must work hard ourself to help the helpless.
I am a traditional Catholic, and i have nothing but respect for the Eastern and Orthodox rites.
Uh ok. Traditionally they excommunicated each other
@@Veritas-dq2hs Yeah but in America I'm way more attracted to people who won't call me an idolator and Mary worshipper. I can't help but feel compassion when I hear of the French Revolution and the ongoing list of Catholic martyrs. Both Catholics and Orthodox also hate secularism. I love my Catholic Brothers and yes we're human and there's been conflicts. But I find myself looking at Protestantism and realizing it was a downfall of humanity and The West.
@@Veritas-dq2hshistorically, not traditionally
Just please don't pray to Mary
@@jedition5618 so christians prayed to Mary and the saints for over 1500 years by mistake in your opinion?
I am a Traditional Latin Rite Roman Catholic. I love the Eastern Rites and Liturgy. I love the beauty and history of the Orthodox Church. The Orthodox Church is of the True Church. I hope we will reunite once again. My friends of the Orthodox Church and I have talked about how much we hope to be in communion with each other once again, and we have a lot of hope for the future since all excommunications between the Eastern Orthodox and the Catholic Church have been lifted. God bless you Sam for teaching this young man. I hope that one day we will all be together as the One True Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. We have the Unbroken Chain of Succession from the Apostles. God bless all who are in the comment section here.
AVE CHRISTUS REX!!!
Agree brother. Viva Christo Rey and Deus Vult!
How do we unite now with Rome in the worst apostasy that it’s ever been in?
@gritsteel3225 what is it that was promised by Christ? What was promised by Our Lady of Fatima?
The Gates of Hell will not prevail.
The apostacy will happen, but the Church will become stronger, greater, and more faithful than ever before.
Remain faithful. Pray for the Church. Pray the Rosary daily. Pray the Prayer Rope. Go to a Reverent Mass. Hold the clergy accountable where necessary. Properly catechize the future of the Church, as the clergy has failed us since Vatican 2. The future of the church will be traditional. The youth are attending the Traditional parishes. Heresies within the clergy will be snuffed out. Showing our faith in Christ and his One True Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church will be our victory.
AVE! AVE CHRISTUS REX!!!
@@gritsteel3225Become Catholic you heretic!
@@gritsteel3225please explain to me worst apostasy in catholic church
Cowboy from Texas - used to be Southern Baptist - but now attend a Greek Orthodox Monastery and my whole family (wife and two kids) have been baptized Orthodox. Our daughter lives at a woman's monastery and wants to become an Orthodox nun (she speaks only Greek now), and our son was recently married to an Orthodox woman. We can attend Divine Liturgy every day of the week, and Vespers (evening services) every day of the week. The Divine Liturgy is the heart of the Church, and Communion is the heart of the Liturgy - so we can receive Communion any day of the week, but of course Sunday - the Lord's Day - is our primary day of worship. We attend Matins to prepare for Liturgy, so that's 4 hours of worship. Homilies only happen on special occasions, so once a year or less at the monasteries, and when a homily is given it's simply commentary on the Bible verse they just finished reading before the Homily, so you don't hear any mention of worldly news or life issues, it's just pure worship beginning to end. The priest doesn't face you for most of the service, you mostly see their back as they lead the congregation in worship.
No performance stage, no microphones, no modern instruments or video screens - it's just sunlight and candles, even the vigils and evening services are 100% candlelight. No light fixtures or light bulbs. Most Orthodox parishes and monasteries are not designed to make you comfortable - if you become Orthodox you will understand - so a vigil, for example, can go 6-8 hours and there's no seats. If you do find a seat, it's an uncomfortable wooden seat with no padding. It's not proper to sit during most of the service anyway. Our big Pascha service goes from 11pm to 4am, and then we all eat together because we fast at least 40 days leading up to Pascha, this year it was 55 days of fasting (no eggs, meat, dairy or oil/wine). When I was Protestant, I would've fallen asleep in 30 minutes at a service in the middle of the night - but the Orthodox Church is such a beautiful experience even the little kids make it through the whole service to the feast.
We know a lot of Greek and can follow the services, but we can also attend nearby Antiochian parishes where the services are in English. It's 100% worship, you can sing from the beginning to the end and these are 2 and 4 hour services. We love the Orthodox Church, it's the most beautiful experience on every level, I literally cannot think of anything we need other than Orthodoxy. It has completed every part of our lives for every one of us. The nuns bake the bread, the monks make the wine, so even Communion is home grown, from the heart, 100% Church without getting any part of it from the world.
After Liturgy, we follow the monk procession into Trapeza and we all eat together quietly as a Father reads from the Bible or tells stories of Saints related to the day/time of year. Then we all receive the blessed bread together and head back into the Church for the last prayer. The monks make amazing food, but of course at the women's monasteries they make a wider variety of food and even desserts (the monks never make desserts lol).
Visit your local Orthodox Monastery or Parish and let it change your life. Sam is right "God meets you where you are." - God was always with me all along the way. He was with me in the Southern Baptist Church when I was playing guitar with the Pastor every Sunday. But like Sam said - we grew and we learned and so for us the draw came to enter into the Orthodox Church and we obeyed. The Orthodox Church has done such a good of being "not of this world" that most Christian conversations are about Protestant or Catholicism, few people know orthodoxy even exists. AND we have Mt. Athos - a mountain dedicated to Christ and populated only by Orthodox Christian monks since the First Century.
Nothing can pull me away from the Orthodox Church now. Like the Apostles said -- "Where would we go?" We can't go back to the rock shows, or the video screens, or the blank walls. The First Century Church still exists, unchanged, and it's Home sweet Home. I wish every Christian could experience the fullness of the Divine Liturgy and the experience of one full calendar year at the Orthodox Church because you'll never leave after that. Christos Anesti!
Αληθως Ανεστη Ο Κυριος.
From a Catholic God bless you and your family, what a wonderful blessed story. Peace be with you
This sounds beautiful. God bless you and your family. ✝️
I read every word and it’s one of the most beautiful stories of non orthodox transitioning into orthodoxy
I was born and raised orthodox but it was more cultural and I admit people who found and became orthodox are
much more educated about orthodoxy and they appreciate it and live it than us who were brought up in this true Christianity
Which is Orthodox Christianity it is very hard to follow but it’s the only true church and it’s worth it, absolutely worth it!
Lord Jesus Christ bless you and your beautiful family!❤☦️
This is so beautiful. I'm happy for you and your family. Orthodoxy is the only chance for America to survive.
I'm a catholic and well be in a universal church forever.
One holy apostolic and universal church.
Orthodox Church real name is One Holly Catholic and Apostolic Church ....orthodox is here in a context "orthodox catholic" or AUTHENTIC catholic ! Orthodox are catholics with big C! Beside OC we have roman catholics .
I'm Catholic and I love Orthodoxy the same way how much i love Roman Catholic
Me too. I love the Orthodox church and am a catholic church.
I’m American 🇺🇸 and I was baptized in Moldova 🇲🇩 into the Easter orthodox. I had no idea what I was doing at the time as a new Christian, I just wanted to be baptized. but God had it all planned out for me. I am home now in the orthodox. ☦️
greek orthodox here ☦ god bless everybody following christ and pray for the musilm to come to the lord jesus christ ☦
True, instead fighting with christians, we should more invest time with muslims.
I was Protestant, now I am CATHOLIC! 🇻🇦❤️🔥✝️
That's sad
@@S.O.J.MINISTRIES May God show you the truth revealed by scripture and the traditions left by the apostles for us in church history, amen
What??? Crazy praying to marry
@@hap1678Man made traditions, I only follow Jesus Christ
Amen ❤
Serbian Ortodox here, i love all my Christian brothers and sisters, God bless you all ☦️
Thankful to see a comment coming from an Orthodox in a place of love when there is a lot of division in these comments. I'm a Catholic and I pray we may be one in Christ's presence someday✝❤☦
@@daradevlin4093 amen brother 🙏☦️✝️
I am Orthodox by mercy of God. God bless you bro! ❤❤❤
As long as you don’t disrespect my holy virgin mother of GOD then we don’t have an issue the fact I even have to warn you people to not disrespect Jesus mother is CRAZY
@@Machoman50tawtf are you on why should we do that?
.Jess's not mery
@@Machoman50ta my brother in Orthodox church we feel Mary as mother of us all. To her we turn our eyes to meet her merciful eyes and hug. God bless us all!
Christos Anesti
Ethiopian orthodox here, that was nice to watch ,all Love for everyone
Wow 🤩 so I left Jehovah’s Witnesses recently and Sams videos helped me through the Christophany and the New Testament evidence for the trinity. I’m feeling the spirit draw me to Catholicism. I didn’t know Sam was attending the Catholic Church 😮 that makes me feel that god is helping me and the spirit is leading me to the right place!
I was a JW too! I left in 2020 and became an atheist, but I cant refuse Jesus, I feel myself being drawn to Orthodoxy atm!
Really?? Were you raised a witness or converted??
Tell me more about your journey out of JW? & what you mean you can’t deny Jesus??
Praise the Lord you got out! I have 3 cousins who left the JW world and are now Catholic! What a miracle. God bless you!
@@writegillian wow! So you know how anti catholic the JW’s are. The Holy Spirit stepped in or else not sure I could have made it out. The deception is pretty thorough with them.
Just be careful; there is a lot of innovation in the Latin church, not so in the Original Roman Empires Orthodox Catholic Church. The Latin church was under the rule of the german barbarians at the time of the schism not so for the Orthodox Catholic Church, it was still ruled by Rome by Roman Emperors and Bishops, not german barbarian ones that "couldn't" understand the Christology, or, Theology of the Original Roman Orthodox Catholic Church.
Orthodoxy will never fall and never submit. Although persecuted by muslims and so many others, it survives and was preserved through the ages ☦️☦️
"and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." And so it was said by him.
The church does not conform to the world. ☦
Orthodox christianity has the truth. It was the first that remained with its truth when the catholic church separated from it.
Amen.
Eastern Orthodoxy is the fullness of the Truth, coming from an Ex. Sikh
same brother
@@mindfuljazzy1135 really, you are an Ex Sikh as well?
@@SenseShady Very cool, where are Sikh's at?
same im ex sikh
ironic that your pfp is a catholic then haha
Been following Sam for years. Would have never thought he’d become Catholic 🙏 praise God he has returned Home.
This fool??ua-cam.com/video/JC_nTbKqCCo/v-deo.htmlsi=WvUfshCstuC3U40d
Anyone following truth will become Catholic. God bless you.
@@omiglio wow have you been deceived!!ua-cam.com/play/PLST2Y3MIb4DWVq_0p2P1QGF0WOwsulfK8.html&si=PsQP5ZjM2yyHr15n
Check former protestant pastor Jeff Cavins, Keith Nester etc
@@DarkAngel-cj6sx 😳 Wow didn’t see those 2 coming to the Church 🙏
Eastern Orthodoxy is the truth
No its not
@@DontHateGod go cry some more at “worship” service maybe you’ll feel better prot
@@DontHateGodyeh it is brother ☦️☦️☦️
@@andreastheo2019 oh really? Then why does my mom stop me from being orthodox even though i want to? If it was true wouldnt she let me?
Sam is catholic so you know better than sam?
hahah i loved this. Im a life long Catholic who was debating on converting to orthodoxy for a long time. But God answered my prayers and told me to stay right where I am. The Holy Orthodox is beautiful and hopefully one day the schism will mend so we will all be known as just, "the church"
Does the Vatican not bother you? the popes thrown surrounded by demonic symbolism? the fallen angels? the Serpent heads? paedophilia? idk but the pope seems to be a tool of globalism to me
When I was deciding between the two, I asked the Lord and he sent me to the Orthodox Church. When I got there, it was closed down and boarded up. I took that as a sign that He really wanted me to go to the Catholic Church, but first wanted me to see the state of things with the Orthodox so I would no longer question which was right.
God told you to stay in the Catholic church I highly doubt that are you sure you heard from God and not a familiar spirit
@@S.O.J.MINISTRIES Brother if you study church history, and read the Bible in the context of said history, you will see that the fullness of the truth is in the Catholic and Orthodox churches.
Also it’s not wise to attribute the things of God to the devil.
Much love, God Bless ❤️✝️
I considered Orthodoxy as well for a short while. Stayed Catholic for a number of reasons.
Thanks for the video Sam God Bless, I am Catholic and got nothing but love for our Orthodox brothers may God Bless both Churches 🙏🏽
Yes in the Roman Catholic Church they don't re-marriage, but if you have proven your side that there is no marriage in the beginning the man or woman, can re-marry again. the case will go to the Roman Catholic Tribunal.
I was brought up in the Presbyterian Church but became Eastern Orthodox Christian.
No change there still protestant 😊
@@albertaowusu3536 No, protestant churches proceed from the Protestant reformation, Orthodoxy does not.
@@albertaowusu3536do you not know anything about church history ?
@@MadlyMesozoicorthodoxy and Protestantism are both schismatic.
Ex orthodox now Catholic here
Sam, I love you brother. I do pray that one day on Gods time you come home to the Orthodox Church. God bless you and your daughters. ❤☦️
Yes , I feel same way ❤
Try to read John Chrysostom. He was an important Early Church Father who served as archbishop of Constantinopol. He is a great theologian în ortodox church.
Melkite church which is eastern catholic uses mainly Chrysostom's liturgy and Basil.
And Catholic
Sam FAILED TO MENTION lol: The Orthodox Nicene Creed is the ORIGINAL FIRST CENTURY CHURCH CREED - the Roman Catholic version didn't exist until 1054 AD - so for 1,000 years all Christians recited the Original Orthodox Nicene Creed unchanged. History 101
Which IS NOT the creed currently professed by the EO. Sorry, revisionist history can't hide the evidence. Regardless, the arguments against the reunification are pointless and based on strawmen. Time to move forward and stop doing the Devil's work by keeping us separated.
he did mention it at the beginning of the video
The Orthodox Church and Catholic Church were the same until the orthodox split away from the One True Church! Some orthodoxy Churches are inline with Peter/Papacy but those are still CATHOLIC! Those that are not inline with the Authority given by Jesus then your Church is not the true Church meaning beg that the split orthodoxy church comes back to fullness and truth of the One True Faith, if you deny that Our Lord gave the authority of His Church to Peter MATTHEW 16 then you deny the truth! But I do believe that we are bound by God Law and of His Church but God works His mercy how He wills and so if someone outside the Church doesn’t know like what Sam said then of course God shows them much mercy! Also just because the Pope we have right now is spreading teachings against the Church does not make the Catholic Church any less the true Church and the Catholic Church has survived many bad popes and also many saints popes too like Saint Pope Pius X ! But even Our Lord chose Peter to be the vicar ( vicar meaning like a representative in the place of Our Lord on earth - not that Peter can compare obviously but that Our Lord chose to give His authority on Earth and that whatever Peter bound on earth would be bound in Heaven! ) but Our Lord chose Peter even knowing he would deny Him! This shows that just because the Pope is a “bad” one doesn’t mean that we leave the boat and jump off board so to speak as we don’t go to Church for people we like but for God! Also if you see the wolves In shepherds clothing then don’t we have to pray for them so much more for their souls so that they can become good shepherds to the faithful!?
God bless!
@@Icy-uo5yh
History doesn't support your story. The Orthodox Church is the only Church that never changed anything, proving that it's the First Century Church.
When the Latins broke away and started a new religion called Roman Catholicism after 1054AD they changed a lot of things:
1) The RC created a new Creed that didn't exist for the first 1000 years in the Church.
The Orthodox Church is the only Church still reciting the ORIGINAL CREED unchanged.
2) The Latins also changed the Communion bread to unleavened bread. For the first 1000 years all Christians received leavened bread for Communion, as it's still done to this day in the Orthodox Church, unchanged.
3) The Latins changed the sign of the cross from right to left, to left to right. For the first 1000 years all Christians did the sign of the cross from right to left, as it's still done to this day in the Orthodox Church, unchanged.
4) In the First Century Church, all the Bishops are equals. The Latins wanted to make the Bishop of Rome a special Bishop with authority over all the other bishops. They had to break away from the Church to do this because the Church wouldn't allow it.
So for the first 1000 years of the Church, the Bishops were all equals, as it's still done today in the Orthodox Church.
Everything you find in the Roman Catholic church today didn't exist in the first 1000 years.
The Catholic lie has fallen apart in the face of historical facts.
The Original First Century Church is the Church that never changed anything and still does everything as it was done in the first 1000 years of the Church. That's the Orthodox Church.
@Icy-uo5yh I think it is time for you to open a book. This was painful to read. Catholicism is essentially heresy. It is the first perversion of Christianity. Power and greed twisted.
Brother Sam welcome home! Glory to God! I knew it.. will follow you on your new channel, My Lord & my God bless you & your daughter.
I am Eritrean oriental orthodox i love Sam shamoun he is a truth seeker
The real objection of us Orthodox Christians against the Pope is not that he is/or isn’t “The highest authority”, but the fact that he claims to be “perfect” (makes no mistakes).
No man can claim that he is never wrong…
ONLY GOD makes no mistakes!
Furthermore, we do have some other differences too. For example, in Orthodox Church, when we go for confession, the priest never say to us “you are forgiven”. He says “may god forgive you”.
He gives you a wish.
ONLY GOD can give forgiveness!!!
Bottom line is that although Orthodox and Catholics were one in the past, after the schism orthodoxes remained as they were but Catholics in the other hand “evolved” into something different. The Pope thinks that he is divine and his followers also believe the same. For us Orthodoxes, this is blasphemy. Its like heresy
No Catholic believe the pope is perfect and no pope believes they are perfect you are just strawmanning the Catholic position.
Also if only God can forgive then why did Jesus tell his disciples that whoever’s sins they forgive will be forgiven and whoever’s sins they retain will be retained
as I learned, no Pope is perfect, but when it is question of some dogma, deep theory of our beleifs, we belive that Holy Spirit leads pope in making some decision. it does not mean for example that he wont be angy for no reason, he is a human, but when it comes to dogma issues we belive his actions and decision will be led by Holy Spirit
Fortunately, dogma/doctrine has to be written in a certain way and/or said ex cathedra. That means the pope ISN’T perfect except when addressing the body of the faithful on matters of Faith and Morals per the above.
If a pope, speaking as a fallible man, has something to say that DOESN’T contradict dogma/doctrine/tradition, then it is morally right to accept and follow such statements. (Kind of like when dad says do the dishes, it doesn’t contradict the normal flow of the home. Same goes for the pope.)
From PASTOR AETERNUS, “…We teach and define that it is a divinely-revealed dogma: that the Roman Pontiff, when he speaks ex Cathedra, that is, when in discharge of the office of Pastor and Teacher of all Christians, by virtue of his supreme Apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine regarding faith or morals to be held by the Universal Church, by the divine assistance promised to him in blessed Peter, is possessed of that infallibility with which the divine Redeemer willed that His Church should be endowed for defining doctrine regarding faith or morals: and that therefore such definitions of the Roman Pontiff are irreformable of themselves, and not from the consent of the Church. …” catholicplanet.org/councils/20-Pastor-Aeternus.htm
Nowhere does it say in the dogmatic constitution that the pope is perfect. Nor does it say that Christians have to obey EVERYTHING he says.
Now, the Vatican II document Lumen Gentium has a passage that certainly COULD be considered ultra-hyperpapalist, elevating the pope past his actual authority (as it says in the document pertaining to the “religious”). Chapter III, On the Hierarchical Structure of the Church and in Particular on the Episcopate, 25: “In matters of faith and morals, the bishops speak in the name of Christ and the faithful are to accept their teaching and adhere to it with a religious assent. This religious submission of mind and will must be shown in a special way to the authentic magisterium of the Roman Pontiff, even when he is not speaking ex cathedra; that is, it must be shown in such a way that his supreme magisterium is acknowledged with reverence, the judgments made by him are sincerely adhered to, according to his manifest mind and will. His mind and will in the matter may be known either from the character of the documents, from his frequent repetition of the same doctrine, or from his manner of speaking.”
It doesn’t specify the laity having to obey everything the pope says. Again, I said it COULD be considered ultra-hyperpapalist in terms of the religious/episcopacy.
www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19641121_lumen-gentium_en.html
For the issue of the Catholic Church not being apostolic, I’m operating under the assumption that there were opportunists who pushed for reforms in Catholicism that run contrary to orthodoxy that the Orthodox clerics on the committee of Vatican II would not accept the liturgy without a major changes.
From the Venerable Archbishop Fulton Sheen’s Communism and the conscience of the West” by Fulton J Sheen, 1948: “…He will set up a counter Church which will be the ape of the Church because, he the devil, is the ape of God. It will be the mystical body of the anti-Christ that will in all externals resemble the church as the mystical body of Christ. …”
www.virgosacrata.com/antichrist-signs-of-our-times.html
a pope even once kissed the quran. Which is a big mistake imo
@@julianpauls98 It's literally called "Papal supremacy" lmao, you are the one "strawmanning the Catholic position".
"Papal supremacy is the doctrine of the Catholic Church that the Pope, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ, the visible source and foundation of the unity both of the bishops and of the whole company of the faithful, and as pastor of the entire Catholic Church, has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered: that, in brief, "the Pope enjoys, by divine institution, supreme, full, immediate, and universal power in the care of souls.""
About the orthodox marriage. The ideal is to get married once and whatever happens to stay true to your vows , that means even if your spouse cheats on you the ideal you would be not to get a divorce . And only for cheating your are allowed to get a divorce. And let’s say that you got a divorce and you want to remarry , then the church is asking God for forgiveness that you are remarrying. In your first sacramental marriage the priest gives you all the blessings and in your second he is asking for forgiveness. So even though that the Orthodox Church allows 3 marriages she acknowledges that only one is „valid“ let me say
I share the exact mantra. I don't get into the divisions with our Orthodox family. We have our disagreements but we can work towards agreement. We share the Apostolic faith! Amen!
For Orthodoxy, check out Father Stephen De Young from Lord of Spirits podcast. He is well versed in Theology and holds a ph.d in biblical studies. Also, Jonathan Pageau is great to!
I would recommend against Jonathan Pageau. He's an artist who looks to Orthodoxy for inspiration for his art and ideas about symbolism. He's not in the same league as an ordained priest. You're going to get a philosophical discourse on the one and the many from Pageau. You're not going to get closer to theosis.
I love Catholics, Orthodox and Protestant doctrine.
Raised Catholic, now Protestant.
My pb with Cath is Mary as "mother of God" and the pope, and all authoritatian hierarchy, like, sorry but who decided that u are more holy and virtuous than me.
I am a sinner, everyday even at my best i need the blood of Jesus, and so do the all the Cath and Ortho hierarchy, they are not levitating above us.
And the bowing to statues and Saints, idols...just what God told us not to do.
But i still go to Cath mass, in my own way for Jesus.
Luke 1:41-43
41 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
In what way is this holy spirit filled declaration by Elizabeth false?
Is she not the mother of your Lord? It's a statement of fact.
God established an authoritative church and a hierarchical priesthood on earth for our sake.
Nobody said the successors of Peter and the Apostles are superior to you in holiness and virtue.
You just became an apostate.
True. There can be problems to the statement "the mother of GOD". A mother is defined as the "source" of a child. Mary isn't the sorce of GOD. So it truly can be problematic
@@regisbergeron5595I grew up Catholic, Luke 1:47-48 makes it’s clear that the story is about Christ being her Savior.
I disagree with praying to Mary only Christ can forgive sins. I understand the prayer is asking her to pray on ones behalf. But that is not Jesus’s teachings.
Revelations chapter 2 Jesus is addressing the 7 churches of Asia. Saying what they are doing right and what they are doing wrong. Jesus speaks of the church of Pergamos and praises them for their faith but points out they have fallen from the path. They sacrifice onto idols and commit fornication. Rev 2:14.
Sounds a lot like the modern Catholic Church and Orthodox Church.
Still the two churches do a lot of Good. And also historically have done a lot of Bad.
That being said we have to remember the head of the Church is Christ not a pope. the real church is his followers. Not the buildings we go to.
Rev: chapter 2 and 3 is good insight on what we should do when we gather as believers. Corinthians reminds us to be aware of false teachings.
Luke 11:42 when Jesus is talking about the Pharisees. Counting out 10% of their mint but neglecting the big issues.
This Speaks volumes to me follow the teaching of Christ not the religion.
To me it’s clear Jesus will have a lot of words about the modern churches . But we have to remember to follow his teachings. It is not the holy water, the building the rituals that saves us. No it is Him and choosing to walk with him and following his direction. A lot of “Christians” won’t be saved. It’s a narrow path only an individual knows if they walk with him.
Jesus was God and Man. Mary was his Mother. That's what the title "Mother of God ' means. @tionarry
When a person begins to study how and why the separation occurred, they can see that Satan entered and took over to divide the true Church into two.
you can see that Satan uses the seed of confusion to seperate them not by interpertations only but language olso its sad but in the end times there will be one church and i'am excited what God will do and i'pray for unity Amen.
@@lilbro3109 ❤❤❤
the true church did not devide. what happened was heretics saw themselves out of the 1 True Orthodox Church
The gates of hell will not prevail against the Church. Only one of them is the true church, not “split in two.” And by that measure I would say who subtracted or added to the list of doctrines and dogmas that were taught by Lord Jesus Christ, the Apostles and the very early Church Fathers? And I reiterate added and/or subtracted beliefs, doctrines and dogmas; not expounding on or reiterating preexisting doctrine and dogma. Once you know who added or subtracted to the beliefs of the Early Church you know who the false church is. The True Church has stayed faithful to the teachings of the Apostles for nearly 2,000 years, unchanged.
@@Nathan-zw7nqAmen ☦️
Ex orthodox now Catholic here 🙏✝
Failure
@@ChanahsCreativeEdits cope
There’s a Catholic Church in albania 🇦🇱 that dose miracles the blind can see and more and more
@@chrischris3922we have so many miracles as catholics. The eucharistic ones are amazing. Science can't explain it either. Also Mary appearances . For example Guadalupe in Mexico tilma also defies science
God bless brother aslong you follow with Catholic or either Othordox Just remember Christ is Lord ✝️☦️
I pray for the unity of the orthodox and the catholic church. A house can't stand divided. Jesus is one and we should be one and united under Jesus.
As a former Roman Catholic, now Eastern Orthodox, i love both. However i believe the Orthodox have their hearts set on the core of the faith, that is the teachings and traditions of the church fathers. This sets them apart from the Latins, who are really from an orthodox viewpoint, a branch from the true church who have their own dogmas and ideas about what the true church is. They focus more on what their popes do and view their theology through the lens of different papal decrees who they claim is acting as the head of the church. Whereas the Orthodox still view Christ as the head of the church.
But the visible head of the church is the Pope (The invisible head is Christ), even doctors of your EO church like St. John Chrysostom say that Peter was the chosen one of the Apostles to be the leader of the "See of the whole world" which is the Holy See in Rome, it's a teaching grounded in the fathers
Who is head of orthodox Moscow or Constantinople. Orthodox Church is fundamentally broken. You claim they are all autosepheles when Constantinople created moscow patriarch he acted just like the pope would
It's true that many church fathers recognized the Bishop of Rome as a "first among equals", seeing him as a reference point for apostolic teaching. For instance, St. Iranaeus famously wrote, "Because of its greater authority (propter potentiorem principalitatem), it is necessary that every Church, that is, the faithful who are everywhere, should agree (convenire), because in her the apostolic tradition has always been safeguarded by those who are everywhere.” There are several others whose writings are filled with high praise for the Pope. However, that doesn't mean that the Pope had a V1-style charism of "papal infallibility." Even reading through some of the fathers who heaped praised on the Bishop of Rome, you find nothing about him possessing universal authority or the unique charism of infallibility "when speaking ex-cathedra." Even some Catholic scholars (notable, Brian Tierney) write that papal infallibility is an innovation. That being said, I don't think there will ever be unity between the Churches until this doctrine is done away with completely. It wasn't the pope who held things together for the first 1000 years; it was the Holy Spirit speaking through the bishops possessing the apostolic faith.
You became a schismatic dude.....
@@AlexanderTheFarmer dude probably can't even articulate the specific reason why he left our church, these type of guys can only win an ecclesiology debate against some evangelical protestant but that's low hanging fruit, but let me not speak too much lol
As a protestant who has had persistent thoughts of orthodoxy for some time, I appreciate the encouragement to "Go." and I will.
I too am currently Protestant and am intrigued by Orthodoxy teachings. There are things though that I am having trouble with, like for instance, prating for already passed on dead Saints. As a Protestant I thought we pray FOR those only on earth and then pray directly TO Christ. I feel like I am getting a little lost in the nuances of it all......Blessings to you
@@lynchcreekmuzzy5759 Likewise brother, that among some other teachings I cannot grasp as being not sinful or at the very least unnecessary. God bless you brother.
@@lynchcreekmuzzy5759 I feel like you could learn a lot about how we get distracted and tear each other down in this comment section... To my best and most honest understanding, Orthodox and Catholics do not pray TO the saints, they ask the saints to pray with/for them, or embolden and strengthen their faith through prayer. Growing up protestant, I've heard all of the slander against catholics, and the "praying to icons" thing is one of the most popular; It's just another way to attack each other and assert our own arrogant supremacy in worship, and it's wrong.
For me, one of the most important perspective to keep is this: We all agree, Jesus Christ is lord, and without question we are his flock, and we follow him... Jesus did not come to write a book, I'm not positive that he ever asked anyone to write down anything. Jesus came to spread the truth, and establish a church that maintains and continues to spread that truth of his teachings. I cannot in good faith separate Jesus and his teachings from his church, which means I'd be a fool to slander the apostolic traditions. "By scripture alone" sounds good, and I don't think it's bad, but that certainly doesn't align with the greater context of why Jesus was sent to the earth...
Thankfully God is loving, and merciful. As Sam said, I truly believe we're all a part of the flock, and we'll all be called into god's kingdom regardless of whether or not we fast, have been water baptized, or take part in communion. There are a lot of interesting things to look at or talk about, but loving, worshipping, and knowing Jesus is truly the most important thing, and if we can focus on that we'll spend far more time embracing each other opposed to debating the most correct way to worship.
@@lynchcreekmuzzy5759 I converted from EO to Catholicism. You should pray the 15 decade Rosary and it will help you discern. That's how I converted to Catholicism since it's the true Faith.
@@AlexanderTheFarmerpapal infallibility didn’t exist in the early church. Rome has innovated way too much and invented doctrine that wasn’t present in the first century. Orthodoxy is the original true Faith.
Ti kanis, Sam, kala? Greek orthodox here. Since you asked and it's a sin to lie I must confess your Greek is perfectible but I appreciated the effort and encourage you to exercise. Travel to Greece, we will welcome you. Now concerning the creed, there was no filioque in the creed composed by the Ecumenical Councils of Nicea and Constantinople.
Here is the "clarification" concerning the filioque published in 1995 at the request of pope John-Paul II :
_The Catholic Church acknowledges the conciliar, ecumenical, normative and irrevocable value, as expression of the one common faith of the Church and of all Christians, of the Symbol professed in Greek at Constantinople in 381 by the Second Ecumenical Council. No profession of faith peculiar to a particular liturgical tradition can contradict this expression of the faith taught and professed by the undivided Church._
L'Osservatore Romano
20 September 1995, page 3
In plain English : the addition of the filioque was peculiar to a particular liturgical tradition, and is not the conciliar, ecumenical, normative and irrevocable universal creed.
As a result, the orthodox Church always professed the universal (catholic) creed. While the Roman Church professed the universal creed until 1014 and then switched for a _profession of faith peculiar to a particular liturgical tradition._ Since Vatican 2 it seems that the filioque has been progressively dropped during the recitation of the credo but I am not sure about that (anyone can confirm?).
Now why is the orthodox Church the one professing the universal creed and not the Roman Church who pretended during almost a thousand years to be the universal (catholic) Church alone?
Not because we orthodox are smarter or better but because we take what Christ said first degree :
"_But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:_" John 15:26
If Jesus said that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and didn't say the Holy Spirit also proceeds from him, who are we humans to add words in His mouth?
The Roman Church on the other hand took the habit to listen to what the Roman Pontiff says rather and therefore was less prudent than we were. And that go far beyond changes made to the Creed.
Now if you are interested I will explain how the Roman Church came to add the _filioque_ into the creed.
But this is a subject for another post..
So we have seen that the Roman Church once pretended to be the only true Church and since Vatican II Rome is saying that the Orthodox Church is ALSO the true Church. We orthodox did nothing in between so that evolution came only from the Romans. That means that Rome contradicted her own doctrine in 1962, and is now saying that her own previous doctrine was wrong without saying it.
But for us, there is a problem with the recent doctrine as well : We profess in the creed that we believe in _one saint catholic apostolic Church_ .
Not TWO of them! And, despite what Rome wants to make believe, we are NOT in communion : A Roman Catholic can't take part to the Eucharist in an orthodox divine liturgy.
So we orthodox don't accept neither of the old and new doctrines of the Romans. We believe, since antiquity, that the _one saint catholic and apostolic Church_ is the orthodox Church. Rome was once part of that Church but decided unilaterally to separate from the orthodox Church in the 11th century. The return of the Roman Church within orthodoxy is only possible if Rome embraces the orthodox faith once again. Which is not an easy task to say the least and will requite tons of humility.
But nothing is impossible to the Lord.
Kyrie eleison.
As I said I will explain how the Roman Church came to modify the creed. The holy Creed was created as a tool of unity of the Church. This is important to keep in mind. It reflects the intentions of those who wanted to change it outside of canonical procedures.
The early Apostles' creed was completed by the ecumenical councils of Nicea (325AD) and Constantinople (381AD) in Greek. It states that we believe _in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and Giver of life, who proceedeth from the Father, who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified, who spoke by the prophets._
In 800AD the Frankish-German Charlemagne conquered and offered the byzantine province of Ravenna (including the ruins of Rome) to the pope in exchange of his own coronation as "Roman Emperors of the West". This removed the papacy from the protection of the Eastern Roman Emperor and placed him under the protection of Charlemagne.
Ten years later Charlemagne send a delegation to the pope requesting him to add the filioque to the holy creed. Such a unilateral alteration to the tool of the unity of the Church could only mean a schism between Rome and the rest of the Church, a schism that would increase Charlemagne's control over the West.
Fortunately we possess the minutes of the meeting. Saint Pope Leo II explained that he had no such power (no pontifical monarchy back then) and he nailed two silver shields to the doors of his basilica with the text of the unaltered creed (without the filioque) engraved in Greek and in Latin along with this sentence :
I, LEO, DID THIS FOR THE SAKE AND LOVE OF THE ORTHODOX FAITH.
The following popes of Rome defended the orthodox faith against the Carolingian dynasty.
The dispute reached the East and in 879-880 the 8th ecumenical council was held in Constantinople with representatives of saint pope of Rome John VIII and anathematized anyone who dares to add or remove anything to or from the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed.
This was not well received by someone and in 882 saint pope John VIII was murdered with a hammer.
A war hammer.
The German weapon of choice.
A period of chaos and shame followed in Rome as Germans and Italians fought to control the chair of Peter. A new pope each year. A pope exhuming the decomposing corpse of his predecessor to judge him and nullify his pontificate. When the counts of Tuscullum managed to control the papacy a scandalous period started known as the Pornocratia, or Rule of the Harlot (not the subject of this post though).
The last count of Tuscullum pope was expelled from Rome in 1014 and asked the German king Henry II to restore him. The Carolingian dynasty was already extinct by then. Henry marched on Rome, restored the Pope and in exchange the pope crowned him Emperor and added the filioque during the coronation mass on February 14 1014, self-anathematizing himself in the process.
The Germanic emperors started to impose German popes, the second of which was the count Bruno von Egisheim-Dagsburg who became pope Leo IX in 1050. At that period the Normans were invading the Byzantine province of Sicily. Leo IX landed in Sicily at the head of his army (what do you expect from a German pope?) in order to take control of the island. He ordered the local bishops to drop the byzantine rite in favor of the Latin one. The bishops asked Constantinople what to do. The Patriarch Michel's answer was to ignore Leo's demand which infuriated the Pope. Leo IX wrote a letter to Michel claiming the universal jurisdiction over the entire Church based on the Donation of Constantine he hold for genuine. That Donation is a forged imperial decree by which Constantin the Great allegedly transferred the imperial insignia to the papacy and was certainly created to justify Charlemagne's coronation.
Leo IX claimed the imperial insignia for himself and officially constituted a Pontifical State with a Senate (the assembly of Cardinals wearing the senatorial scarlet and purple) and a State Chancellor, the infamous Humbert de Moyenmoutiers.
But Leo IX suffered total defeat at the Battle of Civitate on 15 June 1053 and became hostage of the Normans from June 1053 to March 1054 and died short after they released him in on 19 April 1054. Humbert, who ruled the State in his absence learned about his death while he was traveling to Constantinople in order to receive official recognition of the newborn state by the Eastern roman emperor. The official meeting went smoothly but Humbert also delivered an insulting letter to Patriarch Michel allegedly from the dead pope in which Leo IX accused Michel to be a woman in drag. Humbert deposed also an excommunication bull in Agia Sophia accusing the "Greeks" of removing the filioque from the original creed and a few other ineptness.
Michel excommunicated Humbert in return but he was far away and the guards send to arrest him didn't reached him before he was out of the borders.
That's the story of the 1054 schism from the Orthodox side.
20 years later, Rome proclaimed in the encyclical Dictatus Papae to be the entirety of the catholic church alone, that the Roman Pontiff alone could hold the imperial insignia, that all the princes are to kiss the feet of the Roman Pontiff alone etc.
The Gregorian Reformation was on tracks and Roman Catholicism was born.
There was a little issue though : The 8th ecumenical council and its anathematization of the filioquists.
A solution was found : just remove John VIII from the list of the popes, and voilà!
So in 1476 one could read in the official biography of the popes written by the prefect of the Vatican library the following entry for pope John VIII :
_Pope John VIII: John, of English extraction, was born at Mentz (Mainz) and is said to have arrived at popedom by evil art; for disguising herself like a man, whereas she was a woman, she went when young with her paramour, a learned man, to Athens, and made such progress in learning under the professors there that, coming to Rome, she met with few that could equal, much less go beyond her, even in the knowledge of the scriptures; and by her learned and ingenious readings and disputations, she acquired so great respect and authority that upon the death of Pope Leo IV (as Martin says) by common consent she was chosen pope in his room. As she was going to the Lateran Church between the Colossean Theatre (so called from Nero's Colossus) and St. Clement's her travail came upon her, and she died upon the place, having sat two years, one month, and four days, and was buried there without any pomp._
The Protestants weaponized that fable against the papacy so in 1601 John VIII was rehabilitated but not the 8th ecumenical Council and Rome never canonized him as a saint martyr.
He's a Saint Martyr of the orthodox Church though.
Kyrie eleison
Well done brother, Hristos Anesti! Best wishes from Serbian brother!
Amen !
@@borisjugovic9102 Alithos Anesti!
May God protect all our Serbian brothers in Christ. Kyrie eleison.
Αδερφέ φαίνεται ότι έχεις πολλές γνώσεις πάνω στη θρησκεία ία ήθελα να σου κάνω μια ερώτηση:Γιατι υπάρχουν οι εικονες στην εκκλησία απτή στιγμή που στη βίβλο ο Θεός λέει ότι δεν πρέπει να φτιάχνετε ομοιώματα και εικόνες και να τις προσκυνατε ..επίσης γιατί όλοι προσεύχονται στην Παναγία και στους αγίους. Σε ρωτάω επειδή είμαι καινούργιος στη θρησκεία και σκοπεύω να βαπτιστω αλλά αυτά με τις εικόνες και με τους αγίους δεν μου κολλάνε (η προσευχές και τα προσκυνηματα εννοω).Θα ήμουν πολύ ευγνώμων αν μου απαντούσες 😊
Being a Catholic isnt easy as a convert. Its the hardest religion I have ever experienced but the reward I get from faith is beyond measure.
Run!!!
I was born and raised in The Roman Catholic Church, Now I am in the Eastern Orthodox Church❤
I am from România and y am penticostal and y love all my broudher and sister in Jesus Christ
Greek orthodox, here. I love all who believe in Jesus Christ, the incarnated Word of God the Father and the Holly Spirit. And yes the Holly Spirit proceeds from the Father only.
p.s. and i love those who doesnt know Jesus yet. I wish to them someday to know Him.
I'll give you two Orthodox UA-camrs Jay Dyer & Church of the Eternal Logos (David Patrick Harry).
@JayDyer
@ChurchoftheEternalLogos
Also look into the Holy fire that comes every great Saturday before Easter only comes to the Orthodox Church
It's fake
@@t.d6379According to who, you?
Nah. Orthodox church has the Truth inside. Fire is fine but isn't main idea
@@t.d6379 What is your evidence for claiming its fake? Im sure orthodox can just claim all the catholic miracles are fake too, where does that bring us? Nowhere.
@vladgor4099 Historically, we've always used a Devils Advocate.
Dr. Jeannie Constantinou, historian, theologian, lawyer, author, professor and Presbytera, is an excellent resource on Orthodox Christianity. She is readily available on UA-cam and podcasts on Ancient Faith Radio. Her numerous books are also readily available. Some recent ones are Thinking Orthodox and The Crucifixion of the King of Glory.
Sam if you want to learn more about orthodoxy
Go to visit the holy mountain of Athos in Greece 🇬🇷 the garden of the holy mother Virgin Mary.
the amount of saints that place has produce it’s incredible
Last one died here In the United states in Arizona ( elder efraim )
He build 19 monasteries 3 in Canada and the rest all over the United States
His body it’s in Saint Antony’s monastery in Arizona
☦️
And God bless Sam on the work you do
ua-cam.com/video/JC_nTbKqCCo/v-deo.htmlsi=WvUfshCstuC3U40d
In the end every church will meet the alpha and omega and he will judge every Christian and everyone will be rewarded according to his will.I went and found a church that spirit show me and heart of God is there .God is there and love's this church so i worship God there .😅
You found a corrupt false religion that worships Mary, stole the authority away from Jesus and the scriptures, sacrifices Jesus thousands of times a day, has you calling sinful men "holy father" and believes that Jesus is not the only means of salvation but you can actually buy your way into heaven through works and opening up an actual vault of stored up good works to give them to people who submit to the church.
I'm Catholic, but for the past few years Orthodoxy has been very attractive for their way of thinking and especially (in my opinion) the solemn and beautiful atmosphere of their Holy Liturgy. I pray for the purification of the churches, for the heretical ones to fall, and for the true ones to grow closer to the truth. I also pray for true ecumenism, that is true unity in the churches, as even Christ Himself prayed for the united of his disciplines, so that the world would know that God had sent Him. We should not condemn other believers or churches for their differences if those differences are not heretical. We should be bringing all of our closest brothers and sisters closer to the truth by encouraging them towards a fuller faith. I think that above all, what keeps us all together, surely, is Christ, and by putting Him and His will first, we are not to fear. Take heart, for Christ has won the world!
Orthodox and Catholic are the 2 lungs of the Church
Sadly no. The Roman Church fell off of the Body of Christ in 1054.
@@Yasen.DobrevProtestant comment or prideful Orthodox comment based on your name. Roman and Greek versions structured Christianity that's the only difference. Now anglo protestants are the biggest heretics out with their freestyle of the Bible and scriptures. LGBTQ female pastors says it all. No wonder so many of their sheep have fallen away.
Orthodoxy is the true creed. the most authentic church, the very first one. And for us greeks is super important. Is the continuity of the neoplatonic philosophy, and the new testament was written in Greek. It was translated in latin like in the 11th century!!!
The orthodox priest will tell you that he is a sinner, and he represent the people to the God. We don't have a Pope, because to us christianity is spirituality in depth, not politics...
Thank the Lord Jesus Christ, this subject was exactly what I was praying for. Thank you too Sam.
Greek Orthodox Christian here.
Of course i respect all humans.
Of course i feel all Christians as brothers in Jesus' grace.
About filioque, i just feel that reading John 14 and John 15 plus Mathew 3 that my mind goes more to the orthodox explanation that the Holy Spirit has Father as the source and Son as the way to guide It.
Ex Hindu & ex evangelical, now Catholic convert as of this year. I love witnessing Protestants becoming curious about the apostolic Church. As a Catholic, of course I will say that the papacy and filioque are true and totally encourage anyone interested in the Eastern tradition to go to Eastern Catholic rites. You get the best of both worlds! Full communion with Rome and the Eastern tradition. Either way, like Sam said, you are accountable to the knowledge you know! I was scared to convert to Catholicism when I was evangelical bc it meant losing friends and community but I knew it was the Truth so I had to obey the Holy Spirit.
May Christ lead you Cam to where He is calling you to be greater!
Orthodox church is pretty much same but with black clothes, no imaginary bullshit like purgatory, no sin forgiveness for money (indulgence), no church states, no inquisition and witch hunts, no pedophilia and no to canonizing of sins , i guess there are some more differences but this is enough to make my point
While there are significant differences between the Orthodox and Catholic Churches, there are a few misconceptions in your comment that need clarification:
Black Clothes: Both Orthodox and Catholic clergy wear various liturgical colors depending on the occasion and tradition. Black is commonly worn by Orthodox monks and priests, but not exclusively.
Purgatory: Orthodox theology does have a concept similar to purgatory, though it is not as formally defined as in Catholicism.
Indulgences: The Catholic Church no longer practices the sale of indulgences, and modern indulgences are about spiritual growth and repentance.
Church States: The Catholic Church historically had temporal power, but today the Vatican City is the only remaining church state, functioning primarily as a spiritual and administrative center.
Inquisition and Witch Hunts: These were specific historical events largely tied to the Catholic Church, but they don't define the modern church.
Pedophilia: Unfortunately, both churches have faced issues with abuse, and both are working on addressing them.
Canonizing of Sins: Neither church canonizes sins. Canonization refers to declaring someone a saint, not approving of sinful behavior.
@@KaiRhoXP all you wrote was a cheap cope. I consider anyone who follows teachings of Jesus Christ as my brother in Christ but I doubt there are any in Catholic church
@@elkaprul7762start micro-dosing. The way you follow our Lord and Savior is toxic. Fast, repent, and pray for forgiveness and to receive the Holy Spirit. Nasty person.
@@Rockdeesec check out Matthew 7:23 , dear "good person"
@@elkaprul7762 cope ❤️
I think both the Catholic and the Orthodox Church both have elements of the Truth that the other does not but both have more Truth than the rest.
But Chist establishes 1 church, and promised to guide it. The Catholic Church doesn't have "elements" of the truth, it is the truth. No church established and guided by God can be anything but the truth.
@@chukulan show me any other example where in the Bible or anywhere else anyone gets it right 100%. Besides Jesus they all made mistakes and had misunderstandings and for anyone to think they know 100% of anything isn’t all that different from the Pharisees Jesus himself spoke against.
@@BibleThumper94 no human knows 100% of anything. But Jesus gets nothing wrong. So the church HE established IS the truth.
@@BibleThumper94 Jesus did not devide the truth. He commanded unity. Truth wasn't scattered.
@@chukulan ok but Jesus and the church he established isn’t the same thing. So now you are saying that the Catholic Church has made no mistakes? I don’t believe there is anything ran by man with no mistakes.
The big decider for me was married priests and the Uniate situation. Almost all of the apostles were married in the Bible and I want to join the priesthood one day. God brought my wife into my life and she saved me in many ways. Yet I still feel called to the priesthood. Nextly, the Uniates were manipulated and strong armed into joining the Roman church. They kept their theology, liturgy, saints etc but they had to say they submit to Rome. Roman Catholic leaders in Poland, or Hungary for example forced them to submit to Rome or they wouldn’t be allowed to go to their Church services. This was the protocol for most Uniate churches and is a very Pharisee like act which focuses on the outward instead of the inward.
The only apostle we are certain of being married based on the scripture was only Peter plus Easter rites of the Catholic Church definitely allows married men to enter priesthood.
@@elle9082 eastern rites are basically Orthodox who are politically forced to be Catholic. Peter was the Pope and if the Pope can be married why not a simple priest.
My (Latin rite) Catholic priest is married...? The Catholic Church does limit how many married priests are allowed in a given diocese at once (the limit is two), but they are allowed.
@@nethrelm Never heard of that interesting. Every RC Church I’ve been to has had celibate priests.
@@deacon6221 Usually married priests are converts from either Orthodoxy or Protestantism who were married before converting. You cannot get married once you are ordained though. Also worth noting that this is not a dogma or doctrine, it's just a disciplinary rule that the Church could change in the future should it determine it to be the right course of action. But yeah, right now the rule is marriage -> ordination is allowed, but not ordination -> marriage. There are about 120 married Catholic priests in the US right now.
I am a new Catholic convert, but I also love the Eastern Orthodox or Oriental Orthodox Church. We are all brothers.
I am a Chaldean Catholic, I hope we reunite brothers and sisters. If anyone knows how a broken family feels like.
Eastern Orthodox brother is the truth ☦️☦️☦️
There was only one true Church in AD 33.
There is only one true Church in AD 2024. Which one is it?
The Church of Make Believe.
CATHOLIC
The true church is the Catholic Church for we have the Vicar of Christ and successor to St. Peter.
☦️
I am a Catholic from Croatia...from Sinj, the largest sanctuary of the Blessed Virgin Mary in Croatia...A sea of people comes on pilgrimage .. the churches are always full...That's why I was surprised when I came to Germany and saw an empty church...And until a few years ago, I didn't know that so much was said against the Catholic Church... and that from Christians like us... they don't worship the Blessed Virgin Mary and say that she is a mere mortal...If only the Mother of God were the same as us... that is absolutely impossible... but of course there are tares in every grain...Which is completely normal because of course Satan wants to get in everywhere....I've been listening to Sam for a long time and I admire....and at the same time I'm ashamed of how little I know....even though I've read the old and new testament....The one with the pictures....went to mass every Sunday....and in our house prayer was mandatory - thank God that it was like that...and now I read the New Testament every night before going to bed....And I pray to the Dear God 🙏🏼✝️
Brothers and sisters- we are focusing on Christ’ teaching alone and not on labeling.
Sam- you are the man. Thank you for sharing your knowledge on scriptures to the world.
RCC is the truth.
No, Jesus is the truth.
Jesus founded RCC. Did He deceived us with a false church??@@jakeypancakey3730
As a former Roman catholic I had questions but I found the answers to those questions through the early church and church Father's, after a few years, we could no long stay away and join the Eastern Orthodox Church that is Holy Catholic and Apostolic
Eastern Orthodoxy is part of the catholic church but not The Holy Catholic just like all protestants.
@@albertaowusu3536it's. It part of the roman catholic church, they are in heresy. The Eastern Orthodox are the Holy Catholic Apostolic Church.
@@OrthodoxStudy-wd5nkread early church fathers and you will get your answer. It shows the students of the apostles and bishops reporting to Rome. Problem was Arianism
@@stjustinthemartyrapostlesc2412 I did just that and that why I left the Roman church and became Eastern Orthodox
@@OrthodoxStudy-wd5nk heretical doctrine of trinity?
I’m a devote Catholic who participates in the Norvus Ordo.
Catholic and Orthodox are both undeniably _Holy_ and _Apostolic,_ but both sides will exclusively claim the _One_ and _Catholic_ characteristic of their respective *_Church._*
I believe you need to AT LEAST be in a _Holy_ and _Apostolic_ Church for the *sacraments/mysteries* to be life giving *grace,* and thus remain a branch of His vine.
We have a varied teaching on this: if someone realizes and is no longer ignorant to the _One_ and _Catholic_ characteristic of the *Church* and does NOT respond by being in communion with said Church, then your soul is in deep jeopardy.
I would love Sam to explain Exodus 20:4-6.
Traditinal Latin Catholic here. I strayed from the Church, but the Traditional Latin Mass brought me back. Glory to God ✝️
Look at the Orthodox Ethos with Fr.Peter Heers. Or Patristic Nectar with Fr. Josiah Trenham. They make excellent video on explaining the faith. I learned a lot since I've been inquiring on Easter Orthodoxy.
Albreicht just had a debade with, I think, Fr Heers (maybe I'm mixing up the EO priests). At any rate, it was a good debate.
Catholicism is Jesus’ one true church, do not deny the authority our Lord gave to Peter in Matthew 16: 18-19.
Side note…….. "binding" and" loosing" means to have indisputable authority…… another problem the eastern churches cannot answer….. come back to Jesus’ one True, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church eastern brothers.
“The Latins listen to Satan on their Filioque Doctrine” - St. Gregory of Palamas. Who is also a saint in the Catholic Church lmao. If you compare the Catholic Church, today, and the Catholic Church 1000 years ago, it is completely unrecognizable.
The veneration of Gregory Palamas is illicit in the Catholic Church
@@soldierofchrist1096 lol check again
@@soldierofchrist1096Eastern Catholics venerate him and they are in communion with Rome. So yes the Catholic Church venerates him.
@@LilKevv I’m aware of what Eastern Catholics actually do, but I’m also aware of the fact that they shouldn’t be doing it according to the teaching of the Magisterium
@@soldierofchrist1096 okay 👍
ethiopian orthodox here❤️❤️
In the First Council of Constantinople (381) Filioque didn't exist ( The Holy Spirit proceedeth from the Father). In the late 6th century, some Latin-speaking churches added the word Filioque ("and the Son") to the description of the procession of the Holy Spirit.
Greek Orthodox here , God bless you.
The truth is in the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Church. While they have some differences they are both Apostlic Churches.
What does that mean?
@@NthQldGirl They were founded by the Apostles of Christ. Peter founded the church in Rome, Mark founded the Eastern Orthodox Church.
@@HollywoodBigBoss Didn't the Romans try to stop Christianity from spreading. It was outlawed in Rome
This. They have been separated due to politics plays between Rome and Constantinople.. nothing more
Catholic faith is the way hands down. Peter was the leader of the Apostles and no where does bible say all Apostles were given same authority.
Both catholic and easten orthodox are the true churches of Jesus christ.
Not only is there one. The Orthodox only exists because they were kidnapped by corrupt people and left the Church of St. Peter
False
they are not...the beliefs that they hold are NOT absolute to to what Jesus, and even the disciples, put forth. Read your bible to know the truth on that, and if you do, you wouldnt say this falsehood. Praying for the dead....worship of Mary and more, for starters, are things Christ and the disciples preached against.
@@DJ_BROBOT I agree
So yell believe that the church fell into error from its inception? That all apostolic churches from all corners of the globe embraced this heresy from the beginning. That's not logical, historically it's blatant to see that the Protestants changed doctrines, and they are the ones in error. AND have perverted the true faith. Jews have been praying for the dead since before the time of christ,
I would really love to see you defend the intercession of Mary and the rest of the extra biblical Catholic doctrines.
Greek orthodox here. Also we allow only one proper marriage but if someone wants to be married again, like a second or third time we read to the couple a forgiveness wish (ευχή).
As a roman catholic, we also confess the nicean creed,. its not a matter who originate it,. its a strengthen confession by the catholic to defeat Arianism and other early christian heretics that Jesus is only man, not God, therefore the Nicaean creed on the council of nicea strengthen the apostles creed thus affirming jesus is God , TRUE GOD From TRUE GOD BEGOTTEN NOT MADE, CONSUBSTANTIAL with the FATHER!.. now a days roman catholic confess the apostles creed version or nicean creed version without difference in mind, since Ancient Heretic like Arianism died,. if times comes another heretic sect of catholism comes,, surely nicean creed is best to go to.. to sslap their face again, like one famous saint do.
One of the most important scholars on the topic of Orthodoxy is Dr.Jeannie Constantinou
Immensely knowledgeable and wise
Matthew 16:18 is one of the roots of the matter between us. We pray for our Catholic brothers. We pray they return to Orthodoxy.
My brother Catholic didn’t split from ortodox Church, ortodox split from Catholic Church. Saint Matthew 16,18, Saint Luke 22,31,32. Saint John 21,15, Jesús left Peter as the head of his church. The Pope San Damaso the first wrote a letter to Saint Geronimo where Peter is that’s Christ Church. Please read from the book of Acts from Chapter 1 till Chapter 15 who’s the boss of the church. May God bless.
@@denisealfaro915 Christ is the rock and "boss" of the Church. The Ancient Church (Orthodoxy) remains steadfast. No new doctrines without the agreement of all of the Patriarch Bishops of Jerusalem, Antioch, Conatatinople, Alexandria and Rome. We patiently wait your return.
@@rail_bender5205 Ortodox Church sounds ProRestant for me, I wonder why Sam became Catholic not Ortodox. Jesus is the head of the church, but he left a man in charge of his church in earth and that’s Peter then the Apostolic Sucetion. Linus, Cletus , Clement till pope Francis 266 bishops.
@@denisealfaro915 you should ask Sam
@@rail_bender5205read Matthew 16:18-19 against Old Testament Isaiah 22:22. You will see the pre- figured authority given to Peter. Authority given to a single person when the master is away.
Isaiah 22:22
"I will place on his shoulder the key to the house of David; what he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open". In this passage, the Lord grants authority to Eliakim, the new steward of the king's court, to wear the key to the Davidic kingdom, or "house of David". The key symbolizes Eliakim's authority, which allows him to admit or exclude people.
Matthew 16:19
"I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven". In this passage, Peter is given keys to the Davidic kingdom, or "kingdom of heaven". The keys symbolize Peter's authority, which allows him to admit or exclude things, or "bind and loose" them.
As a catholic from Poland I am proud to have You in our Roman Church. You're real warrior of Christ.
So happy in Christ you find the way to the True Holy Church Sam! Laudetur Jesus Christum! A blessing from Italy
Clear, concise video. If you're looking for a good Orthodox scholar, I highly recommend A. Edward Siecienski, especially his book, The Papacy and the Orthodox
Continued by Saint Peter the great and passed down to pope Francis
Saint Peter would be ashamed of the current vision of the papacy and more especially, of Bergoglio and his Jesuit Dj priests.
@@k-v-d1795 Pope Francis is based, plus doesn't one of your patriarchs have ordained female deaconesses now?
too bad there are too many idols and false teachings in the Catholic Church that get in the way of Francis hearing and doing the word Christ set forth
@@DJ_BROBOT nope
@k-v-d1795 Anything specific? Or just post modern rhetoric?
But the thing about the filluque (excuse my spelling) the Nicene Creed was done like the Orthodox church before the split of the church in 1043 and the Catholics split from the church cuz they changed the creed and said about the papal authority over all bishops
The creed has been modified many times in response to heretics, plus the papal supremacy has been true just read the church fathers
The Catholic Church is THE Church
So who are the Orthodox...
@@danielc8263the ones that did not want to continue following the Roman Catholic Church. Is the same with protestants, does not agree with some doctrine or decision made and decide to move
They added a lot
Man made things
Things that aren’t even in the Bible…
Sam, God be with you always. From a Greek Confessional Lutheran. Greek language rules and your greek is perfect.
We all love Christ at the end of the day, our biggest enemies shouldn’t be other Christians, we’re all united through Christ
Filioque... see Reason and Theology to get that quite well.
Orthodox is the truth
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Wow never heard this before, such a strong line-“the more you know, the more accountable you become”. Wow
Luke 12: 47-48 " And that servant who knew the will of his lord, and prepared not himself, and did not according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. And unto whomsoever much is given, of him much shall be required: and to whom they have committed much, of him they will demand the more."
Eastern n western catholics its different only in tradition and perspective we are brothers n sister with the same roots same apostle and teachings . Sam please reach out ELIA MYRON FROM INDONESIA HE IS AMAZING
😮 sam shamoun you're a catholic now? Welcome home ❤