Agreed. Some things should remain a mystery. We never saw the face of Charlie, only his 3 “Angels” and Bosley. We never saw Vera, Norm’s wife in Cheers. We never heard Morn speak in DS9, even though according to Quark, he never shut up. Yet one more reason why I never really liked Discovery. It’s like the middle child in a large family. Always fighting to stand out, and not always succeeding.
My real problem is why the Breen needed their refrigeration suits at all on their own ship that they built for themselves? If they prefer a relaxed gelatinous state they could build their own ship to accommodate that.
Why is that a problem? In The Expanse, humans will wear their full suits on in combat. The hull can depressurize rapidly so it's better to rely on a personal life support system. Being gel-like, this problem is even more acute for the Breen.
The armor holds cultural significance and they carry prisoners and make deals so it’s just kind of convenient that way, I imagine. Individual crew quarters are probably more frigid
I like they fleshed out the Breen and that they went to the Roman Empire for inspiration. We already had a society based on the Roman Republic (Romulans) and now we have one based on the Roman Empire.
One thing I didn't understand was; if maintaining solid state was so difficult and required concentration, then why was L'ak able to maintain it for so long? We almost always saw him as solid, even… 🚨*spoiler warning*🚨 …after he died.
When was all this nonsense about being liquid brought up in the show? When they were first revealed, glowing green, I figured they were made of energy; perhaps in semi-ascended state. It sort of explains their animosity toward being in "solid" state, as it represents a lower level in their evolution. I would surmise they need the suits to help regulate they're ability to remain in this energy state
Star Trek has been going more and more in the direction that the Federation is barely equal to the other powers around it which I find rather interesting. The implication is that the Federation is the wimp club. A group of advanced powers all banded together and yet even with this fact they are no more than equal to single species empires like the Breen, Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, etc.
Jesus is it discovy's goal to make everything look like shit? I'm so glad that train wreck is finally over. Now if we could just get our hands on a neuralyzer and wipe it from the universes memory.
Wildly unlike any species I've seen in Star Trek, Star Wars, or any other semi-serious sci-fi series, and people are pretending they're Orions in fancy clothes. There's no saving Star Trek fans who read "seek out infinite diversity in infinite combinations" and choose to believe it only applies to the nostalgic part they remember from childhood.
that would have been wicked awesome at how brutal wolves in the artic can be but strict family hierarchy's wolves can have that would have been a awesome species of Breen or the predators to the Breen why the Breen are hunting for an advantage big freakking powerful wolves that make a Klingon and Vulcan look weaker than rice paper and can survive a very cold climate but tolerates m class as well hunters that make every other species cringe with fear even Borg would fear them something that resembles the blue devil from FALLOUT 76 but stronger more intelligent and brutal, Brains, brawn, sly, with endurance that will outlast anyone in battle even with a shield one hit would really do severe damage with an unknown biology that even the Borg nanites can not read or control space werewolves with an attitude.
4:59 it would seem you are in error, good sir, in regards to the Breen language be hard to translate. In the DS9 episode "for the uniform" Odo has the computer translate a Breen nursery rhyme very easily.
Good news, the writers of the show said not to rule that out due us not having a complete picture of the Breen with us really only seeing like a few members unmasked.
@@tubeguy4066 What makes you say that? In fact by saying this they are potentially combining the two theories about them that had existed for a while. Then being gelatinous creatures and them being an alliance of multiple species. What makes you think they changed it because of random people online?
I like the lore. Ive said it once and ill say it again, i think keeping things secret just to keep it secret is pointless and does not add anything with few exceptions done very specifically. The previous fan desire to keep the Breen as an unknown made them entirely a one dimensional entity with only one type of story beat and in sorry but thats boring and doesnt serve any story but the first one. So i hate things like fans saying john-117 to keep his mask on. Or the breen. Kakashi's mask. Link's voice. The Doctor's name. Etc.
STD introduces you to the new " Breen " brought to you by Lime Jell-O Jigglers. You know the STD motto - " To boldly go and destroy the canon, impact, and meaning of all Treks that have come before "
@@thod8820 Goopy takes away from them being Big Bads, it makes them a joke. Changelings being " goopy " had a purpose, they could shape change, there was a reason for it. Breen should have stayed hidden, and " goopy " makes them significantly less intimidating.
In an alternate reality/timeline, how would the Breen have faired in a Dominion that won the war in the Alpha Quadrant? Would the Founders feel more favourably to the Breen once they knew they were "Jellyish"? And the Founders would have made it a point to find out. They would have hidden a Changeling in Breen facilities disguised as an inanimate object.
I can see that, but there is a line in DS9 where it is clear the founders view the Breen like every other race. Though, it could just be the founders are used to hating other races. Also, good thing the founders never met Armus.
@@Endar0 I just take it as the writers didn't know what the Breen were at the time and wrote the scene like they were solids like all the other humanoid races.
Kira was secretly hoping it would be a tiny dude piloting a mech suit like that guy from 'Men in Black' so when she found just another humanoid she was disappointed and never bothered telling anybody.
So, the Breen being one of the few major races in the setting highly likely to NOT have descended from Progenitor/Preserver meddling are the ones tracking them down hardest.
Reminds me of the villain from Beyond, honestly. Who was actually just a human who took on an alien look due to stealing "life energy" from so many aliens.
It's even more lame when they try to make it seem like fan service at the tail end of s***ting on the fanbase for years with terrible stories and episode-long marathons of crying and shouting in service of Space Sasha being touted as the best Captain evar. But pales in comparison to how readily some "fans" lap it up and just easily accept it. It's like being kicked in the nads every time you meet someone, but every now and then they buy you a beer as if that's supposed to make up for it.
they said that when you take their mask off they disintegrate so they could analyse the suits and whats left of the breen, but they wouldnt be able to examine a breen itself
I don't have a problem with the Breen being fleshed out, but since being weird was their whole schtick, i woul have liked them to have been more creative about it.
I'm rather disappointed because the DS9 version of the breen suits had eyes high on the forehead and a muzzle-like protrusion. I was expecting/hoping for something a little more unconventional in appearance.
I'm not actually sure whether I'd call the Breen "humanoid". They take a humanoid shape, yes - but their natural gelatinous state wouldn't be able to hold such a form without some stabilizing framework, like our skeleton. I'd say it's more likely that they used to be a non-humanoid species that "adapted" to the humanoid shape for convenience, due to how prevalent humanoids are in the galaxy. How they first arrived there would be pretty open - between another species landing on their home planet and befriending/uplifting/enslaving/teaching them and them setting out on their own with rudimentary "containers" with flexible appendages as space suits, which they later refined, there are plenty of possibilities. By the Dominion War they may even have been unable to fully pass for humanoids outside their suits, explaining the progression from the snout-like helmets to the round ones of the imperial era. There are some 700 years of cultural development between them after all.
@@kaitlyn__L For humanoid hands, yes. Their suits had those, because most other tech around them was designed with the humanoid body plan in mind. That's exactly the feedback loop I mean: Breen meet other species -> find out most are humanoid, so their tech is designed for that -> adapt their environmental suits to work with that, because they don't really have a preference either way -> become more involved with other species -> design their own tech based on the humanoid body plan for trading & compatibility -> adapt to the humanoid shape even more... etc.
Fascinating, so the Breen are not like the others in Star Trek in that they are shapeless jellyfish-like life forms that eventually evolved to be able to imitate the humanoids elsewhere, at least they are not thieving squids from Freefall - don't think Star Trek is ready for them. Especially Ferengi. They are able to harden their surface skin in the face of the elements, and cannot leave their refrigeration suits when these are in a gelatinous state. Which explains why no one had seen what a Breen looked like for centuries. And perhaps why they could change their appearance without much difficulty. It could also explain why the Breen were notorious for cold-blooded ruthlessness and cruelty with a strong aggressiveness that made everyone else dislike or mistrust them. They differed far too much from the rest of the galaxy with few exceptions such as the founders from the Dominion. Individually speaking, some Breen individuals could have tolerance for the non-breen and one accepted coexistence with them, but they are strongly xenophobic in their political orientation. At least the Star Trek producers had learned from the Gorn problem, the new Gorn was too alien, far too different in violation of established lore. Here they have tried to introduce new lore without too strong a break with speculation and information from before.
@@kaitlyn__L Even if we don't just chalk that up as the production error it probably was, it still makes more sense to assume those were weapons made for export rather than something specifically designed for the very rare cases they'd ever expect to engage in combat without their protective suits. Plus at that point they were definitely using the humanoid body plan (including hands), since true humanoids are able to fit in their suits. I merely suggested that there is a chance they may not 100% pass for humanoids outside their suits yet, explaining things like the odd shape of their helmets.
That's being a bit too kind to Klutzman and his merry group of hacks. Seems they caught a few more episodes of actual good Trek when half-asleep and sprinkled some odd little callbacks and tidbits that don't really mesh to try and help along pushing their agendas.
I don't mind the Breen Imperium having been something that kicked out or subjugated the other "Breen" species out of racism against solids. Would be a decent compromise for that part of the lore.
Thank god that Discovery is fucking over... Too bad they had to take the Gorn down with them... with the usual Species Design that looks always the same... What a literal shit show.
ST:Discovery started its journey by ruining Klingons, and finished it by ruining Breen. lt might be a god awful tv show, but at least there is symmetry.
I'm fascinated by the Breen. I love the Breen ships in STO. They are my favorite set, and I have a character that using all the Breen gear and tribbles. I enjoy getting new Breen toys for the Holiday Event in December.
The unmaskind most likely had nothing to do with "mysteries", like every other masked/faceless character that gets unmasked in modern media, it is because the actor whined about not being able to emote with their face covered or wanting to say to future employers "that was me" That's why Judge Dredd was unmasked, that's why the Mandolorian unmasked, that's why Master Chief unmasked: either actors or directors whining.
Personally I like to think of the progentors and preservers as different species. One created the base for life in the galaxy the other was just obsessed with preserving rare or dying species.
I actually hope that the next time Paramount / CBS / Viacom invariably goes under and splits apart they sell off assets including Trek. And that someone who actually respects it gets hold of the rights, to then retcon all this garbage right out the window.
Where do you have Breen Ric? I don't know who you are, I don't know what you want. If you're looking for ransom, I can tell you we don't have money, but what we do have are a very particular set of skills, skills we have acquired over a very long time watching his videos, skills that make us a nightmare for people that try to kidnap Breen Ric...
Every secret is ruined the moment it is shared. I have family that still gets mad when they see me show the new kids magic tricks they know secrets to bc i told em years prior instead of keeping "it magical" vs just a cheap trick.
Never should have shown under the suits. Ruins the mystery.
Exactly!
I'm just pretending I never saw it, its in the 3000s so its not like ignoring disco s3-5 affect anything
Agreed. Some things should remain a mystery. We never saw the face of Charlie, only his 3 “Angels” and Bosley. We never saw Vera, Norm’s wife in Cheers. We never heard Morn speak in DS9, even though according to Quark, he never shut up.
Yet one more reason why I never really liked Discovery. It’s like the middle child in a large family. Always fighting to stand out, and not always succeeding.
Lmao that's your argument? It ruins the mystery? They're not trying to be mysterious.
@@Ducky69247 they always were before but discovery dropped that completely, that's the problem
My real problem is why the Breen needed their refrigeration suits at all on their own ship that they built for themselves? If they prefer a relaxed gelatinous state they could build their own ship to accommodate that.
They are war like, and so mostly armor or army uniform on their warships.
Why is that a problem? In The Expanse, humans will wear their full suits on in combat. The hull can depressurize rapidly so it's better to rely on a personal life support system. Being gel-like, this problem is even more acute for the Breen.
@@gamervox1707 But even the klingons don't wear full respirator gear on their own ships they build for themselves, Are the breen more warlike?
@@uncleanunicorn4571 Breen is more like Rome empire military, well the killingon are more like Barbarians.
The armor holds cultural significance and they carry prisoners and make deals so it’s just kind of convenient that way, I imagine. Individual crew quarters are probably more frigid
"If you prick me, do i not...leak?" 👀
I like they fleshed out the Breen and that they went to the Roman Empire for inspiration. We already had a society based on the Roman Republic (Romulans) and now we have one based on the Roman Empire.
You know, the Breen helmet looks suspiciously like Leia's Boushh disguise from ROTJ. 🤔
"I have breen Rick" was Soooo bad I got eye strain rolling them 😂
Neil before the Breen
"Isn't that immoral?"
One thing I didn't understand was; if maintaining solid state was so difficult and required concentration, then why was L'ak able to maintain it for so long? We almost always saw him as solid, even…
🚨*spoiler warning*🚨
…after he died.
Budget
Yup, all that time he spent dying and dead while solid proved the gelatinous state bit was entirely a throwaway plot point, quickly abandoned.
I thought they’d all look like Carrie Fisher underneath
Why is the bad guys always in green light? Romulans, Borg, Breen... all green.. Klingons didnt use red till Search for Spock.
When was all this nonsense about being liquid brought up in the show? When they were first revealed, glowing green, I figured they were made of energy; perhaps in semi-ascended state. It sort of explains their animosity toward being in "solid" state, as it represents a lower level in their evolution. I would surmise they need the suits to help regulate they're ability to remain in this energy state
So the Breen are a race of alien Gummi bears
Well this explains why they joined the dominion. They were kind of like Changelings
Star Trek has been going more and more in the direction that the Federation is barely equal to the other powers around it which I find rather interesting. The implication is that the Federation is the wimp club. A group of advanced powers all banded together and yet even with this fact they are no more than equal to single species empires like the Breen, Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, etc.
This destroys the wonder of the Breen, what next? The Tholians entering the winter Olympics?
Jesus is it discovy's goal to make everything look like shit? I'm so glad that train wreck is finally over. Now if we could just get our hands on a neuralyzer and wipe it from the universes memory.
generic green aliens again
Wildly unlike any species I've seen in Star Trek, Star Wars, or any other semi-serious sci-fi series, and people are pretending they're Orions in fancy clothes. There's no saving Star Trek fans who read "seek out infinite diversity in infinite combinations" and choose to believe it only applies to the nostalgic part they remember from childhood.
Discovery? Oh God please no 😢
how does a gelatinous being have a scar to denote marriage?
The same way you get a scar on your eyeball
@@jameswillen6749no, not even close
Change the color of the new Breen visors to red and you have the visage of Maximilian from Disney’s “The Black Hole”.
Real human Breen and a real hero
Be water my friend.
They would wipe the floor with the Federation
that would have been wicked awesome at how brutal wolves in the artic can be but strict family hierarchy's wolves can have that would have been a awesome species of Breen or the predators to the Breen why the Breen are hunting for an advantage big freakking powerful wolves that make a Klingon and Vulcan look weaker than rice paper and can survive a very cold climate but tolerates m class as well hunters that make every other species cringe with fear even Borg would fear them something that resembles the blue devil from FALLOUT 76 but stronger more intelligent and brutal, Brains, brawn, sly, with endurance that will outlast anyone in battle even with a shield one hit would really do severe damage with an unknown biology that even the Borg nanites can not read or control space werewolves with an attitude.
4:59 it would seem you are in error, good sir, in regards to the Breen language be hard to translate. In the DS9 episode "for the uniform" Odo has the computer translate a Breen nursery rhyme very easily.
While I'd never suggest that mating between Breen and other species was abominable, I do suspect it would be incredibly awkward, if not impossible...
I have a hardened human state as well 😏
What happened to Thot ranks?
Discovery isn't canon.
Doggone RIGHT.
Kind of sad they're not an alliance of multiple species anymore (At least, the guessed version of them), but eh the gel thing is fine.
Good news, the writers of the show said not to rule that out due us not having a complete picture of the Breen with us really only seeing like a few members unmasked.
@cliffdavidson5096 imagine not even sticking to your guns because the fans got mad at your screw up lol
@@tubeguy4066 What makes you say that? In fact by saying this they are potentially combining the two theories about them that had existed for a while. Then being gelatinous creatures and them being an alliance of multiple species. What makes you think they changed it because of random people online?
You have been what Ric? 😂😂 LLNP Ric of 🤔
im glad i didnt watch STD
"Primarks"...?!?
Not your fault, but this lore sucks. Once again new trek proves itself trash.
I like the lore. Ive said it once and ill say it again, i think keeping things secret just to keep it secret is pointless and does not add anything with few exceptions done very specifically.
The previous fan desire to keep the Breen as an unknown made them entirely a one dimensional entity with only one type of story beat and in sorry but thats boring and doesnt serve any story but the first one.
So i hate things like fans saying john-117 to keep his mask on. Or the breen. Kakashi's mask. Link's voice. The Doctor's name. Etc.
As discovery is not real Star Trek, just bad fanfic, Breen mystery fortunately remains intact.
STD introduces you to the new " Breen " brought to you by Lime Jell-O Jigglers. You know the STD motto - " To boldly go and destroy the canon, impact, and meaning of all Treks that have come before "
I'm not sure the Breen being goopy really takes away any of their meaning, if anything it could add to why the Changlings liked them in the past
oh, go be miserable somewhere else
“To convert all aliens into Jell-O shots”
Star trek discovery: we made it worse for you
@@thod8820 Goopy takes away from them being Big Bads, it makes them a joke. Changelings being " goopy " had a purpose, they could shape change, there was a reason for it. Breen should have stayed hidden, and " goopy " makes them significantly less intimidating.
Eh, still wouldnt turn my back on one though
So we're accepting STD as lore? hmmm.
Oh it's discovery, yeaaaaaaaaa pretty much anything from that abomination is something I consider "non canon"
Sorry man, once you said "Discovery" I'm out. Trek's version of Disney SW content
Yeah, way less interesting, but then again, this is from Discovery; they've been falling on their faces and over their feet for awhile.
Don't treat anything from Discovery as canon.
Spoilers for Discovery? _Not Possible_ 😅
please dont reference content from star trek discovery. it is a disgrace of a show.
I dont mind the breen lore, its fine. Being half jelly does explain why they readily sided with the dominion
My thoughts exactly.
It would explain why the Breen sought it out. It does look like founders had no clue the Breen were like that.
@@Endar0 Founders: "Take that solids!"
The Breen: *Liked that.*
The meme math checks out.
In an alternate reality/timeline, how would the Breen have faired in a Dominion that won the war in the Alpha Quadrant?
Would the Founders feel more favourably to the Breen once they knew they were "Jellyish"?
And the Founders would have made it a point to find out. They would have hidden a Changeling in Breen facilities disguised as an inanimate object.
Maybe this is why the Founders seemed pretty comfortable aligning with the Breen. They are almost quasi shape shifters.
I can see that, but there is a line in DS9 where it is clear the founders view the Breen like every other race. Though, it could just be the founders are used to hating other races.
Also, good thing the founders never met Armus.
@@Endar0 I just take it as the writers didn't know what the Breen were at the time and wrote the scene like they were solids like all the other humanoid races.
Kira was secretly hoping it would be a tiny dude piloting a mech suit like that guy from 'Men in Black' so when she found just another humanoid she was disappointed and never bothered telling anybody.
Lmao this is the best answer
So, the Breen being one of the few major races in the setting highly likely to NOT have descended from Progenitor/Preserver meddling are the ones tracking them down hardest.
That joke at the end. Nice touch
Now you've gorn and done it.
I completely a-breen!
Well one Bajorian and one Cardassian saw them when stealing suits
There's been the theory that they have a disintegration function in their armor
@@AzraelThanatos or, a slightly updated version, that the gel form can't exist outside of the suit in normal temps (like Ric pondered at the end)
or maybe they just steal them from the wardrobe ;)
But.... Kira 'defeated' at least 2 Breen over the course of DS9 and stole their armor. That should've given some insight into their physiology.
I guess they just evaporated before she saw them
I love how they look like recycled Discovery Klingons. Something about the facial mold is so lazy now
Reminds me of the villain from Beyond, honestly. Who was actually just a human who took on an alien look due to stealing "life energy" from so many aliens.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel Yeah Idris Elba 🤣🤣 I forgot all about that lol
I'm kind of tired of every franchise having to reveal the secret mysteries in order to stay relevant.
It's even more lame when they try to make it seem like fan service at the tail end of s***ting on the fanbase for years with terrible stories and episode-long marathons of crying and shouting in service of Space Sasha being touted as the best Captain evar. But pales in comparison to how readily some "fans" lap it up and just easily accept it. It's like being kicked in the nads every time you meet someone, but every now and then they buy you a beer as if that's supposed to make up for it.
@@The_Lucent_Archangel"Here you go, you can dunk your swollen balls in this, all good."
@@Ketooey "I dipped mine before you started drinking. You're welcome."
A good mystery reveal is one that reveals a dozen more mysteries and secrets to explore
Breen Imperium...Primarchs...is this a subtle 40k joke from Disco?
Primarch isn't uniquely Warhammer 40,000.
@@johnsteiner3417 I'm aware.
@@WokeWarrior From your first post it appeared that you weren't.
Imperium and Primarch both come from Rome, which is what 40k and the Breen are ultimately based upon.
If it was it'd be the first hint of subtlety in the show
Surely during the Dominion War there would be dead or wounded Breen to study.
they said that when you take their mask off they disintegrate so they could analyse the suits and whats left of the breen, but they wouldnt be able to examine a breen itself
When a spaceship blows up not much left
Wait. They're gel like beings that can harden themselves into the consistency of skin?
...Oh god.
...Breen are Inklings.
Splatoon!
Discovery is not canon.
You can always count on Discovery to ruin a good concept.
I don't have a problem with the Breen being fleshed out, but since being weird was their whole schtick, i woul have liked them to have been more creative about it.
Feels like they just repackaged their stupid take on the Klingons.
@@RobKMusic A little bit yeah
I'm rather disappointed because the DS9 version of the breen suits had eyes high on the forehead and a muzzle-like protrusion. I was expecting/hoping for something a little more unconventional in appearance.
I always think of them as the brine because it looks like they are submerged in pickle brine.
Ah Breen, the color of Brenvy.
I'm not actually sure whether I'd call the Breen "humanoid". They take a humanoid shape, yes - but their natural gelatinous state wouldn't be able to hold such a form without some stabilizing framework, like our skeleton.
I'd say it's more likely that they used to be a non-humanoid species that "adapted" to the humanoid shape for convenience, due to how prevalent humanoids are in the galaxy. How they first arrived there would be pretty open - between another species landing on their home planet and befriending/uplifting/enslaving/teaching them and them setting out on their own with rudimentary "containers" with flexible appendages as space suits, which they later refined, there are plenty of possibilities. By the Dominion War they may even have been unable to fully pass for humanoids outside their suits, explaining the progression from the snout-like helmets to the round ones of the imperial era. There are some 700 years of cultural development between them after all.
Though even the 24th century Breen disruptor rifles Quark was selling were clearly designed for a humanoid to use.
@@kaitlyn__L For humanoid hands, yes. Their suits had those, because most other tech around them was designed with the humanoid body plan in mind.
That's exactly the feedback loop I mean: Breen meet other species -> find out most are humanoid, so their tech is designed for that -> adapt their environmental suits to work with that, because they don't really have a preference either way -> become more involved with other species -> design their own tech based on the humanoid body plan for trading & compatibility -> adapt to the humanoid shape even more... etc.
Fascinating, so the Breen are not like the others in Star Trek in that they are shapeless jellyfish-like life forms that eventually evolved to be able to imitate the humanoids elsewhere, at least they are not thieving squids from Freefall - don't think Star Trek is ready for them. Especially Ferengi. They are able to harden their surface skin in the face of the elements, and cannot leave their refrigeration suits when these are in a gelatinous state. Which explains why no one had seen what a Breen looked like for centuries. And perhaps why they could change their appearance without much difficulty.
It could also explain why the Breen were notorious for cold-blooded ruthlessness and cruelty with a strong aggressiveness that made everyone else dislike or mistrust them. They differed far too much from the rest of the galaxy with few exceptions such as the founders from the Dominion. Individually speaking, some Breen individuals could have tolerance for the non-breen and one accepted coexistence with them, but they are strongly xenophobic in their political orientation.
At least the Star Trek producers had learned from the Gorn problem, the new Gorn was too alien, far too different in violation of established lore. Here they have tried to introduce new lore without too strong a break with speculation and information from before.
@@SKy_the_Thunder naw naw, the triggers grips etc looked too small to use with the gloves on :)
@@kaitlyn__L Even if we don't just chalk that up as the production error it probably was, it still makes more sense to assume those were weapons made for export rather than something specifically designed for the very rare cases they'd ever expect to engage in combat without their protective suits.
Plus at that point they were definitely using the humanoid body plan (including hands), since true humanoids are able to fit in their suits. I merely suggested that there is a chance they may not 100% pass for humanoids outside their suits yet, explaining things like the odd shape of their helmets.
"I have Breen Rick." Love it. :)
Tbh I was not a fan of the unmasking, I prefer the mystery
This confused me because in Babylon 5, Breen is the Narn's equivalent of meatballs
One of those questions that if ever answered will either reveal some great truth about The Universe, or drive You mad.
Haha this comment is the best one
Swedish Meatballs actually
@@josiahzabel8596What's the difference?
@@oneproudbrowncoat who knows. Thats where G’kar left the statement off at.
Any 'lore' submitted by STD is not lore but only wishful thinking of someone tripping on shrooms
That's being a bit too kind to Klutzman and his merry group of hacks. Seems they caught a few more episodes of actual good Trek when half-asleep and sprinkled some odd little callbacks and tidbits that don't really mesh to try and help along pushing their agendas.
I dig the Breen lore. Happy with its development.
'Spoilers ahead for season 5 of Discovery..' Lol, good one.
major kira knows what one looks like she killed one and took its uniform
I don't mind the Breen Imperium having been something that kicked out or subjugated the other "Breen" species out of racism against solids. Would be a decent compromise for that part of the lore.
They’re somehow exactly what I was expecting
spoilers for s5 of Discovery.........people watched discovery?
Thank god that Discovery is fucking over... Too bad they had to take the Gorn down with them... with the usual Species Design that looks always the same... What a literal shit show.
They look like any other generic alien fictional alien 😑
Is this why they allied with the Founders? Because they had similar forms?
ST:Discovery started its journey by ruining Klingons, and finished it by ruining Breen. lt might be a god awful tv show, but at least there is symmetry.
It's like poetry, it rhymes
Except Colonel Kira who. Killed one for its armour/suit no ever saw one. Uh huh
Killed two. Season 4(or was it 3)and 7.
Yup
Why are they liquid when it’s cold and solid when it’s room temperature. Makes no sense.
Its cool that we got to see more of the Breen. Never woulda guessed they were jello people.
I'm fascinated by the Breen. I love the Breen ships in STO. They are my favorite set, and I have a character that using all the Breen gear and tribbles. I enjoy getting new Breen toys for the Holiday Event in December.
I don't get why they need their environment suits inside the ship They built for themselves?
For protection from space hazards or battles? With how little was known of them, they may wear the suits any time they leave their planet.
Nope. You cover far too much of this modern ST crap. I am done.
Unsubscribed.
How has Discovery been able to survive for this long with it shitty story writing and characters?
i prefered them beeing a mystery, tbh.
My favorite part about the mysterious and enigmatic Breen is how they're just stupid green guys
Lovely, another great mystery ruined, thanks, I hate it. (Pouts)
The unmaskind most likely had nothing to do with "mysteries", like every other masked/faceless character that gets unmasked in modern media, it is because the actor whined about not being able to emote with their face covered or wanting to say to future employers "that was me"
That's why Judge Dredd was unmasked, that's why the Mandolorian unmasked, that's why Master Chief unmasked: either actors or directors whining.
it does seem to be the trend
I always thought they looked like Crow from Mystery Science Theatre 3k.
Personally I like to think of the progentors and preservers as different species. One created the base for life in the galaxy the other was just obsessed with preserving rare or dying species.
Nah, STD isn't canon.
I actually hope that the next time Paramount / CBS / Viacom invariably goes under and splits apart they sell off assets including Trek. And that someone who actually respects it gets hold of the rights, to then retcon all this garbage right out the window.
SO the Breens are basically cousins of the Taelons
Or Yaphit from The Orville.
I liked it better when the fan fiction said they were actually arctic wolves (or Gnolls if you're into D&D).
Yeah but it was stated in DS9 they have no blood, which complicates that sometwhat
Can we stop treating STD as it was canon? The makers themselfes surely do not consider the show as canon
Agree. It's a pile of 💩
Where do you have Breen Ric?
I don't know who you are, I don't know what you want. If you're looking for ransom, I can tell you we don't have money, but what we do have are a very particular set of skills, skills we have acquired over a very long time watching his videos, skills that make us a nightmare for people that try to kidnap Breen Ric...
I'll stick with SF Debris fan theory that they're the descendants of the Valakians from ST:E
Every secret is ruined the moment it is shared. I have family that still gets mad when they see me show the new kids magic tricks they know secrets to bc i told em years prior instead of keeping "it magical" vs just a cheap trick.
STD isn't canon.
You made this whole video just to make the closing pun didn't you... 🤨😂
If yer half jelly, why take a humanoid form?
Why would they maintain a temperate M class atmosphere on their ships though