Unveiling the Hidden Story: Inside the 250-Day Siege of Skardu | Battle of Skardu
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Every Indian should aware about this war
Thanks 🙏
Just imagining what these soldiers went through made my eyes tear up.
Please consider including this - i read on the internet they killed every soldier that surrendered except for Col Thapa and his orderly (who by luck happened to be a known of the British Commander of the Pakistanis), of the civilians (Hindus of Skardu) killed every man and raped the women. Reason to include this is so we Indians are aware of the moral Army the enemy doesn't actually have, before advocating of peace let us know the real nature of the enemy
Please continue the Kargil war series. Huge fan and subscriber of your channel 🙌🙌
Yes will do. Thank you for being a subscriber and fan. Messages like these give me immense motivation.
@@IndianMilitaryHistory your wlcm. May you reach 100k subs soon
The Indians must have had a very small army . Sending 10 men and 20 men as reinforcement .
Remember this was right after independence. So there were issues all across the country that needed military resources. The post independence Indian army didn't have enough numbers and capacity to support all the war effort at all places.
Within Kashmir also this was one of 3 fronts that was active. Poonch was under siege, Uri and adjacent areas were under constant threat, and then this front where they had to secure a long communication line to get to Skardu.
Yes. The Indian Army was around 60% of the pre-partition Army of 400,000, of about 240,000. We are used to thinking of a 38 division 1.2 millions strong. That was not so, back in 1947.
Continue Kargil war series !!!
Will do q
1) the coloumns were not detailed to fight ambush on their way to Skardu town, fort,. 2) The taking of Gilgit was due to no thoughtful attitude on part of the governor, political establishment at Delhi. 3) It is often said by our army brass, political establishment, & media, more than weapon, the man behind the weapon matters. The incidents narrated, shows one single factor -- bravery is not enough. Logistic support in all other factors ( men, weapons, ammunations,telecommunications, food supply, medical help) makes the difference betweeen fruitful battle & futile battle.
Well said
Fair comments, but the second point, about Gilgit, was totally off the mark.
Gilgit had been taken away from the administration of the Dogra rullers of Jammu and Kashmir, and was only returned by Mountbatten to Hari Singh at the last moment, in 1947. That frontier had been policed by a para-military force the Gilgit Scouts, officered by two British officers, of whom Major Brown was the CO. So there was nothing that held any attraction for the people of Gilgit in the administration of J&K, indeed, a lot of hostility, considering that they were returning from direct rule by the British to a rule by a princely state. The Governor, Ghansara Singh, had just arrived at a town about which there had been no knowledge on the J&K side for decades, and tried to take control, but on the 1st November, the Gilgit Scouts mutinied, locked up the Governor and his commander in chief, and declared for Pakistan.
Since Hari Singh acceded on the 26th of October, and this took place on the 1st of November, it is not immediately clear what thoughtful action by the Governor was not taken. Nor is it clear what the establishment at Delhi, on the lip of a campaign to recover captured territories that lasted over a year, should have done about it.
@@indrajitgupta3280 correct . If we put ourselves in their shoes and try to imagine,
The invaders are on your doorstep, your capital is about to fall. Other parts of the state are also under attack.
What may happen in the Gilgit area, must have been on the back of the mind - especially trying to imagine the potential role of the British in this.
Great video
Thanks!
Awesome video. I always wanted to know what happened at Skardu. I only knew a Gorkha Officer and his troops fought in Skardu till last bullet but this video reveal the details. Thank you again for making this series. Salute to the heros of Skardu🙏 Jai Hind.
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I feel sorry for myself that I didn't know about this,
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Lot of love, respect, homage to all those who sacrifice their lives for us/me
Don't feel sorry for not knowing this. These were never taught to us in school. The intent of this channel is to tell people about these events
Another brilliant narrative.
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Why did our troops not reach and occupy point 8853 first? Surprised as we were closer
Please also explain how locals supported Pakistan army at skardu
Yes there was tremendous local support for the Pakistan army. The Hindu minority civilians were under threat so had to be given shelter within the Skardu fort itself.
Respect to indian army
Jai hind
It is worth mentioning that the light infantry of the Gilgit Scouts were reinforced by the State Forces of Chitral, who provided whatever artillery those columns (three of them) had.
Colonel Thapa was promoted to his rank later, on deputation from Leh, where he had the rank of Major, to the defence of Skardu.
All the survivors other than Thapa who surrendered at the fall of Skardu were killed.
Why did they leave Col Thapa only. Surprising
@@aggarwalkaoor9002 He was known to be close to General Gracey; the general had played field hockey as a younger officer, Thapa had done well in playing the game, and the raiders knew about the relationship.
@@indrajitgupta3280 oh ok
Thanx for giving knowledge to us that how we lost gilgit to mirpur area just because of bad planning and not giving renforce,food, and arms to our army.
Why our government not took it seriously??
Feeling Very depressing and shy when i know this truth...
Thank you for your note. It was a display of courage and perseverance by the Indian armed forces, despite the sad ending to it.
It's not that the government didn't take it seriously, they just didn't have the necessary resources at the time to overcome the situation.
Don't feel depressed, every military history will have its highs and lows, what's more important is to see how a person responds in adversity. That's what differentiates a common man from a soldier.
Thanx again for your motivation , its sad that we loose some terrotory but still hope for better tomorrow by teach lesson from our histrocal mistakes,
You are doing good work, keep it up!!
First of all, when it comes to international affairs, including affairs of territorial sovereignty, legality >>> morality. Let this really sink in first.
The whole region of Gilgit Baltistan, infact the entirety of erstwhile Princely state of Jammu and Kashmir was the legal property of the Hindu Dogra Dynasty and the Maharaja was the legal and rightful sovereign before the Independence and Partition of India. It doesnt matter whether the locals like it, or the locals ever considered themselves as part of the Dogra Dynasty's Kingdom. The plain undeniable fact is tax was collected from the local populace and headed to Srinagar and Jammu.
Next. In the view of International Law, the entire state of Jammu and Kashmir, including all of PoK and PoGB became a legal part of India when the Maharaja signed the Instrument of Accession.
*It must be noted here that I put emphasis on the land of Jammu and Kashmir, not necessarily, but also not excluding the people. This is due to the nature of the Partition of India, where people of different religious groups moved to the side of the border where their religion would be the majority, but this is still merely a choice of the people. Holding a referendum is the equivalent of asking people, do you want to move across the border to a Muslim country or stay in this Hindu majority country? It changes nothing on the status of the land.*
India uses the Instrument of Accession, which is a valid document for her claim on PoK, as well as the proof of sovereignty over JnK and Ladakh. Again I must repeat, Jammu and Kashmir was a monarchy. In monarchial states, it DOES NOT matter what the people think. The ruler decides the fate of the state. Hence, a public referendum is unnecessary to prove India's sovereignty over the entire state of Jammu and Kashmir, including PoK.
Pakistan has 0 valid documents (casus beli) to claim sovereignty over the Princely state of Jammu and Kashmir. Pakistan uses the Muslim majority as a justification, but this only applied to British ruled provinces.
Under the Partition of India, among the 12 states of India, 3 were given entirely to Pakistan (Balochistan, Sindh and Northwest Frontier Province) and 6 were given entirely to India (United Provinces, Central Provinces, Orissa, Bihar, Presidency of Bombay and Presidency of Madras). The final 3 states were partitioned between India and Pakistan (Bengal, Punjab and Assam). This partition of the 3 states was done by determining which regions had Hindu/Sikh majorities and which ones had Muslim majorities. It is important to note that this doctrine of partition did not apply to Princely states, whose ruler had the full right to accede to anyone they choose to.
Another claim from the Pakistanis is that the Maharaja signed the Instrument of Accession under Duress (forced to sign with no other choice). However, it was Pakistan themself that created the situation of stress (invading the state) and eventually led to the alleged act under duress. The contract itself (the accession of Jammu and Kashmir into India) cannot be overruled by duress since India was already doing their part of the deal (fighting the Pakistani troops).
Next, the UN administered referendum. Both India and Pakistan are fully aware that the UN referendum is non binding to both states and not an obligation by law. It is merely an advice, or a suggestion/offer by the UN. To prove this, let us ask the question,
(A) If India cedes the entirety of Jammu and Kashmir and Ladakh to Pakistan today and drops their claims, is a referendum still necessary?
(B) Subsequently, if Pakistan cedes PoK and PoGB to India today and drops their claims, is a referendum still necessary?
If your answer to question 1 and 2 are either both 'Yes' or both 'No', you may read on. If your answer for the 2 questions are different, you have an inherent bias and you have put emotions and perceived morals above legality (Refer again to the First Paragraph).
Now, let us explore a scenario where there is a referendum. According to the UN, the rules for the referendum have 3 steps, and the 3 steps are both sequential and progressive. What this means is, step 1 has to be satisfied first to move to step 2, and so on.
Step 1: Pakistan removes all its troops from its occupied territories and surrender the occupied lands to Indian control.
Step 2: India removes most of its troops from the entire state, with the exception of a small force to maintain peace within the state.
Step 3: A referendum is held with 3 choices; Join India, Join Pakistan or maintain Independence. This referendum is closely administered by UN officials.
Failure to progress through Step 1, makes the entire need for a referendum irrelevant.
To top it all off, it could be argued by India that the then UN agreement between India and Pakistan to conduct a public referendum was signed with an entity that no longer exists. The Republic of Pakistan no longer exists after it became the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, with an entirely new constitution. In addition, the state of Pakistan no longer exists as the same territorial entity after losing half its land (Bangladesh).
Thank you for sharing such a detailed account of the history here.
Please make a detail video on aksai chin dispute. Details about Jhonson line, macartany macdonald line,1959 claim line. shahidullah fort claim. Difference between 1959 claim line and macartany macdonald line, 1962 sino pak border agreement based on Macartany Macdonald line,Shaksgam Valley, Nehru Forward Policy.
I covered a little bit of that in my 1962 overview. But will do a bigger video on that, perhaps a podcast could also be helpful
@@IndianMilitaryHistory sir please make animated videos .
Re-uploaded
Yes .. I have been combining the parts into one consolidated video ..
So disheartening to listen to a history of Indian losses in the hand of Pakistanis...wish our politicians and military remembered this type of incompetence and bad planning
Heart breaking.
It wasn't incompetence though. Our resources right after independence were very limited. In fact considering the scale of invasion, the Indian armed forces were able to achieve significant gains in the Kashmir campaign
Loss of Indian pride and lives from those that are useless distractions are disheartening indeed
Loss of Skardu is shameful for Nehru Govt and India. They were in the war and refugees were getting slaughtered. They should have raised more troops from 15th Aug onwards and supplied our troops better. They repeated same mistake in 1962
1947-48 was a very challenging war for india because we had just gained indeed a few months back, there were multiple issues going on at the same time. I am not sure if the govt of India at that time could have done more. Yes in my opinion they should have continued their operations in 1949 as well - I guess they were under the impression that they would be able to sort things out diplomatically.
1962 is a completely different story, in that case they should have been more prepared. In fact the Indian armed forces had suffered significant atrophy in the past few years under Menon
You forgot to mention that all proportion of ammunition were held by India during partition and pakistani attack only consisting of single barrel shot guns
It was usa and british support by which pak army won this battle but it was indian political failure who doesn't gave backup reinforcements.
@vimalkumar3815 no you remained failed uptil now, if you say that is all due to the political favor of usa? How you narrate your history by acknowledging that afghan and pashtun fought Sikhs and uk for century without any politics?
Those are these Valor who out bound you from that valley without ample ammunition
Armed forces and ammo were divided proportionally in between the two countries
@@syedtanveerulhassan1022 did you know who won afghanistan in past it is sikh empire..
This does not stand to scrutiny. Even if one takes it at face value, cantonment in present Pakistan were more comparatively and they all had their ammunition stacks and depots.
Please narrate in Hindi,our PBORs have the right to know what their forefathers did
Point taken .. thank you for that ..
What's PBOR?
Lehru shame of india
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Pakistan must have had an army 3 times the size of india .
They had non state actors and local support who joined in the coup and the encirclement
@@IndianMilitaryHistory
In other words Gilgit-Baltistan rightful became a part of Pakistan given your admission of support by the local population, after all the land is and was for all practical purposes a 100% Muslim majority land, yet Indians claim that this land is a part of India, lol, I wonder what the local people think to such bs.
@@madeehasaeed786 local support from a minority of population doesn't make that argument strong. Besides, just by being a Muslim population doesn't automatically make it Pakistan, we saw what Pakistan military did in East Pakistan. And now Balochistan.
@@IndianMilitaryHistory
Regardless, it sure as hell doesn’t make it Indian though does it, and if you like you can always ask the people of the land in question who you claim were a minority or at least their descendants if they think that THEIR land should be a part of India, but I guess you know the answer to that already, about 99.9% will look at you with contempt for even having the audacity to ask such an impertinent thing, that is the reality on the ground now, and it is the same reality that was prevailing back in 1947/48 and surely will remain true in the future, minority you say ok if it makes you feel better. Now going to Bangladesh, the two wings should never have been a part of a single political entity in he first place given the fact that Bangladesh is nearly two thousand miles away from Pakistan when measured as a straight line across India, the fact that it is over India makes it irrelevant since the real distance is then by sea which is more like five to six thousand miles, meaning for all intents and purposes the two wings had nothing connecting them, whether it be ethnicity, language, literature, culture, clothing, food, nothing, no land borders or geographic contiguity, their (East Pakistan and West Pakistan) only connection to each other was simply a piece of paper, that’s not the case here with Gilgit-Baltistan is it, for one we have geographic contiguity, secondly cultures are much more similar, there is economic integration that could never be the case with Bangladesh and the people don’t want anything to do with India and actually want to be a constitutional part of Pakistan just like the other four provinces are, that’s the difference, but anyway I thank you for having split Bangladesh off from Pakistan otherwise we would probably have fifty or sixty million Bangladeshis squatting in Pakistan (West) now screwing up the ethnic balance more than already is the case, why do I say that, because there are tens of millions of illegal unwanted and unwarranted Bangladeshi migrants squatting in north east India and especially Assam turning the poor native Assamese people into a minority in their own land, thanks again you made it possible for us to dodge that bullet.
Baluchistan is all propaganda by the same usual suspects, India, the US, UK, the EU, Canada, Australia etc, you know the ones that are part of the QUAD, the five eyes etc, the same ones that make up sh1t about China persecuting the Uighurs of Xinjiang Western China with absolutely zero evidence and not a single Muslim country in the world believes it, not even the next door countries of Central Asia, who are their racial, ethnic, linguistic, cultural and religious brothers, lol, how can I accept with a straight face what India has to say about Baluchistan, don’t forget it is part of the same geographical entity as the rest of Pakistan, has thousands of miles of shared borders or boundaries with the other provinces of Pakistan, hence is zero miles away, again like Gilgit-Baltistan it shares much more in common with Pakistan than Bangladesh could have ever shared even in a billion years, again big difference to the case of Bangladesh which should have been its own country from day one or remained a part of India in a united Bengal, but that’s another story.
I accept religion isn’t enough and Bangladesh was a mistake that should have ended back in 1947 but that limitation of “religion NOT being enough” does NOT apply here with Gilgit-Baltistan (or for that matter with Azad Kashmir) nor does it apply to Baluchistan.
@@madeehasaeed786 thank you for the essay.
The Main reason ...we lost Gilgit is that muslims chosed islam over their commanders , over their professional ethics , And same mistake we are repeating by ... recruiting muslims in Indian Army , they'll betray us again...the moment situation will be in their hands.
Its a cycle repeating itself from last 1200 years in Indian Subcontinent.
That's not true. In the Gilgit case, the mutiny was led by two British officers leading the soldiers of Muslim background.
We have to understand that time was different as we had just gotten out independence and we were in the process of partition. So military officers and soldiers were in a state of flux where their regiments and battalions were also being divided up.
Painting a broad brush on all Muslim soldiers due to an incident that happened at the time would be a very unfair characterization of the brave Muslim soldiers in the Indian Armed forces.
For example- the reason why in 1948 we were able to save the crucial towns of Naushera and Jhangar - that eventually saved Poonch - was due to the leadership of a brave Muslim officer - Brigadier Mohd Usman - MVC. His soldiers didn't have beds to sleep on and were sleeping on the floor, so he also chose to sleep on the floor. He led from the front to quash Pakistan artillery shelling and lost his life in one such operation.
Outside the army they can be Hindus Muslims etc - in the army, they are just soldiers.
I’m from Skardu ❤
Long live Pakistan 🇵🇰
Long live Pak Army
I have heard Skardu is beautiful. Enjoy yourself.
@@IndianMilitaryHistoryenjoy with bhikmanga Pakistan
Locals had support for Pakistan and Pakistan armed forces. Land of Kashmir is always belongs to Pakistan and no matter what people
Of Indian occupied Kashmir will always support Pakistan 🇵🇰.
India may have send millions of occupied troops in Indian occupied Kashmir but in reality they will always be occupied forces.
Yes, that's why the population in Gilgit Baltistan is up in arms and wants Pakistan out. Please take your time responding to my message, I know there's a lot of electricity and Internet outage there