Sandisk Sansa Clip Sport Plus SD Card Mod Discovered!

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  • Опубліковано 8 лис 2024

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  • @MarcoMazziniYT
    @MarcoMazziniYT 3 роки тому +18

    I love when stuff like this happens.
    Never stop tinkering!

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  3 роки тому +1

      Heck yes! Erm I mean hack yes!

  • @gadgetmadlad6691
    @gadgetmadlad6691 3 роки тому +14

    All it needs now is a type c mod and a bigger battery. Very cool video.

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  3 роки тому +2

      It'd probably be pretty easy to design and fit a little type c adapter board in there, possibly even redesign the back shell and 3d print it for that and a bigger battery! Of course it'd lose the water proofing but well worth the sacrifice for extended listening time.

    • @gadgetmadlad6691
      @gadgetmadlad6691 3 роки тому +1

      @@sjm4306 👍✌

  • @bryteklabs1855
    @bryteklabs1855 3 роки тому +10

    That's dope! In a kobo one time there was also a microSD card lying there.

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  3 роки тому +2

      I remember seeing a lot of early gen ereaders had embedded sd cards

  • @CompComp
    @CompComp 3 роки тому +3

    Nooks also do this. But idk if you can swap it for a larger one.

  • @jackiejoe8930
    @jackiejoe8930 2 роки тому +1

    Do you have an image for a clip sport plus? It seems like my internal card died. I do have an extra SD card I would like to try putting the image on my extra card to seen if I can get working again. Thanks for any help you can give.

  • @MilkerMurphy
    @MilkerMurphy 3 роки тому +4

    Interesting you mention disk imager. Looking for a program to clone my harddrives, though disk imager might not be the way to go.

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  3 роки тому

      I've never used it to image disk drives but I don't see why it wouldn't work (may be slow though)

    • @researchcapt
      @researchcapt Рік тому

      Macrium has really good and free clone software

  • @Cwiotr
    @Cwiotr 11 місяців тому +1

    I miss the video of dismantling the cover. Is it possible to open it without damage?

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  11 місяців тому +1

      Your best bet is warm the adhesive with a hair dryer and use a small suction cup on the screen area to lift the plastic screen cover.

  • @sadiporter2966
    @sadiporter2966 Рік тому

    SanDisk Clip Sport Go is the latest model. It uses a newer SoC: atj2167 which uses a risc-v cpu core and a dedicated dac ip block. supports 8000 songs. They changed the case quite a lot too and it has a 1.22" tft-led 240x240 screen instead of 1.44" 128x128 tft-lcd. I read that it also uses an internal micro sd card for storage too so this trick probably works with that model too.

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  Рік тому +1

      I actually got the clip sport go a little while ago and can confirm that it does have a micro sd card inside and also can be upgraded with a bigger card using the process shown here.

  • @toxic_shr00m
    @toxic_shr00m 2 роки тому +4

    Interesting video! I was looking to see if there was a way to modify the firmware completely to make a petite little game system, but this is still really cool.
    On the microphone thing, I have a Sandisk Sansa Clip Zip, which is a very similar model, and it actually has a completely usable microphone, with menu options to use it. Back when I was really young, I didn't know how to transfer files to it, so I just played the song through headphones into the microphone to record and listen to it later! Absolutely destroyed the quality, but man, hearing those old recordings really take me back. One of the song recordings had a little hiccup in it that I eventually got so used to, listening to the song normally now without the hiccup feels completely off.

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  2 роки тому +4

      Reminds me of the days of recording off the radio onto cassette or minidisc! Also funny that you mention it, I ripped a cd I borrowed from a friend when I was a teen and it had a scratch that I got used to hearing as well. Years later when I downloaded a high quality version of the album and listened it definitely felt odd not hearing the skip on that one track at that one point lol.

  • @Davedarko
    @Davedarko 3 роки тому +3

    almost bought one, but I still have iPods here :D

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  3 роки тому +2

      I have drawers full of ipods lol, but I love these cheap players that you can really abuse and they'll still keep chugging.

  • @idogieger1156
    @idogieger1156 3 роки тому +4

    will it support more than 32 GB of storage if i install a 64 or 128 gb? not talking about keep working but not detecting more than 32 gb. but detecting everything stored.

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  3 роки тому +2

      Yep, if you follow the cloning and reformat in the player settings menu then it'll recognize the full card capacity. The main limit I can think of is the max track limit which would be fixed in the firmware, but I haven't hit it yet so no idea what that would be.

  • @robertevans1343
    @robertevans1343 Рік тому +1

    👍🏾 👍🏾

  • @tenj00
    @tenj00 6 місяців тому +2

    Sad there is no Rockbox for this little guy.

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  6 місяців тому +1

      Ikr, I have rockbox on every sansa clip model that supports it. It's such a shame they moved to a cpu that doesn't have enough ram to run rockbox.

  • @paulb4uk
    @paulb4uk 3 роки тому +3

    Neat find and mod

  • @นรบดีฤดีนรเวท
    @นรบดีฤดีนรเวท 5 місяців тому +2

    2:36 This thing looks like when you insert a M.2 SSDs.

  • @d3vastat0r89
    @d3vastat0r89 3 роки тому +2

    I had one of these. This was years ago when I never used to tinker with things. I ended up throwing it out because the audio jack stopped working. Probably was an easy fix :/

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  3 роки тому +1

      I've had a few where one channel or the other stopped working, it was pretty easy to fix iirc just needed to resolder the jack pins.

  • @emmettturner9452
    @emmettturner9452 3 роки тому +1

    Neo Geo X Mega Pack Vol. 1 has a micro SD soldered into a full-sized SD card with a custom pin out to make it not read in a standard card reader. Of course, you can just remove the microSD card and read that in a standard card reader if you don’t mind tin on gold. ;)

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  3 роки тому +2

      Security through obscurity is no security at all!

  • @MultiWirth
    @MultiWirth Рік тому +1

    there might even be a chance there´s a firmware file avaiable from sandisk archives and some kind of recovery mode backed into the player, that way you could actually reinitialize the player in case the original card died.

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  Рік тому

      Really hope so as all flash memory will eventually corrupt/die.

    • @MultiWirth
      @MultiWirth Рік тому

      @@sjm4306 it can last a very long time, but it has a limited number of write cycles.
      My Sansa e250v2 only has 2GB of internal storage (actual nand soldered onto the pcb).
      I don't use it at all, i keep everything on my 128gb micro sd.
      Rockbox by default doesn't show the internal storage to a host computer anyways.
      This prevents me from accidentally bricking my firmware and also I'm unable to write anything to it.
      Should live a long life hopefully.
      But at least for this model, there are tools to unbrick and/or reflash the whole thing.
      Needed this recently for my sansa e260v1.
      The one time i was glad to dualboot linux, since i had to execute a linux binary.

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  Рік тому

      According to Jedec flash retention is anywhere from 10-20 years at room temp (derates at higher temps, for denser than slc with most modern flash being tlc and qlc, and also the more writes the faster the depletion). I've seen corruption in as few as 6 years for some cheaper brand sd cards. If corruption happens randomly on a music file you may notice a slight blip but if it occurs on a boot/os file there's a high chance the os might not boot or will seemingly randomly crash. Error correction masks some bit flips but the more errors it encounters near eachother the worse its reliability is.

  • @SalvatoriusMyspace
    @SalvatoriusMyspace Рік тому +2

    interesting video! By the way does anybody know if it is it possible to increase the volume a little higher than it is which is a bit too low?

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  Рік тому +1

      IIRC in settings the region selected affects the max volume cap

  • @vhfgamer
    @vhfgamer 11 місяців тому

    I suspect they put the SD card internal not because they're trying to prevent the user from upgrading.... but because they were trying to improve the "sport" aspect of it. You know, the water resistance.
    An SD card slot to the exterior introduces a point in ingress for water.

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  11 місяців тому

      I meant it's odd moreso because an internal sd card plus connector cant be cheaper than a standard bga or even ttsop flash chip soldered directly to the board. In fact it's likely much more expensive. Sure maybe they just had a big stock of sd cards they wanted to use up but connectors are very expensive compared to silicon.

    • @vhfgamer
      @vhfgamer 11 місяців тому +1

      @@sjm4306 While this is true, we're also talking about economy of scale. Sandisk has massive manufacturing lines already set up and producing those memory cards. So perhaps the design engineer preferred to use an existing product instead of spinning up another line for a new product. Thus eliminating engineering man hours, time, effort, and tying up the already existing SD card line.
      They may have also decided this course because they didn't want to buy chips from another fab. Many engineers prefer to use only IN HOUSE materials for their product design.
      Also, this could be an attempt to use up older stocks of SD cards. Perhaps the 16 and 32gb chips aren't as desired today. Maybe they don't sell as well since people can go buy bigger SD cards 128gb or 256gb... so on.
      Could be something upper management demanded. Or it could have been a limitation due to FCC requirements. Or perhaps they were rushed on time, and chose to use an existing product to reduce R&D?
      All of which makes sense considering the customer base in 2023 for dedicated MP3 players is much smaller than it used to be.

  • @nyobunknown6983
    @nyobunknown6983 2 роки тому +1

    For the 32GB version, Sandisk claims 8000 songs for the 32GB version and 4000 for the 16GB version. I have 2400 songs on my 32GB version.

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  2 роки тому +1

      Interesting question is, is that just due to an average file size and capacity calculation or a max firmware limit based on the track caching it does when you add new music?

  • @researchcapt
    @researchcapt Рік тому +2

    It would be great if you could test a 64 GB or 128 GB card to see if they actually work.

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  Рік тому +1

      After this video I bought another one and added 64gb to it without any problem.

  • @joshchavers7053
    @joshchavers7053 2 роки тому +1

    This guy needs to be at mit :)

  • @logicman91
    @logicman91 Рік тому +1

    how did you get win32 disk imager to clone it everything i have tried the options are grayed out so i tried acronis clone everything and still wont boot only with original card

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  Рік тому +1

      Not sure of your specific setup so here are some general ideas: Make sure nothing else has mounted and is using the sd card. Also the sd card must be directly inserted to a usb adapter on the computer (ie not through the sansa's usb connector).

  • @asmircar1
    @asmircar1 3 роки тому +1

    Is this mp4 or mp3 player ? Should be very usefull to use in a car or at party

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  3 роки тому +3

      Audio only, screen is way too small for enjoyable video watching

  • @geogeo3644
    @geogeo3644 3 роки тому +4

    rockbox?

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  3 роки тому +3

      Unfortunately sounds like no one plans to develop a port as the processor is too different and much more limited compared to older clip models.

  • @lesliefranklin1870
    @lesliefranklin1870 7 місяців тому

    FAT32 has a limit of 32 Gigabytes partition. I wonder if it supports exFAT too. Of course, 8,000 songs is already a lot.

  • @IraQNid
    @IraQNid 8 місяців тому

    I have a SanDisk Sport Clip that supports 128 GB Micro SD cards. On mine, the packaging states I can use SDHC, but my memory card is SDXC. Now I'm getting ready to test it with over 27,500 .MP3s on a 512 GB memory card. When I used it with my 128 GB memory card, it plays them just fine. That 2,000 song limits is the limit for how many songs can be randomly played. Sequential playback is limited to the folder that the music is stored in. So unless I create a playlist on my Sport Clip, I will be limited to playing one folder at a time. Now I wonder if the internal 8 GBs on my player can be upgraded to a higher capacity card?

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  8 місяців тому +1

      If it's the original clip sport the internal memory is a soldered nand flash chip. While not impossible to upgrade at minimum you'd need a hot air rework gun and a flash chip programmer with zif socket.

    • @IraQNid
      @IraQNid 7 місяців тому +1

      @@sjm4306Thanks. In the original box, it states it can support up to 32 GBs. But a sticker was placed over that to show that it can handle up to 64 GBs in the external card slot. I tried it out last weekend with a 512 GB memory card loaded with over 27,500 .MP3s. It was a little slower in loading the files upon power on. But once it was started, it was able to perform as smoothly as ever. Marvelous little computer tech.

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  7 місяців тому

      For some reason I misread your original comment and thought you wanted to upgrade the internal flash chip lol. But yeah upgrading the external sd card is easy and doesn't seem to really have a hard limit so far.

  • @frenchpet
    @frenchpet 2 роки тому

    Does it support flac/ogg natively? I'm reading that Rockbox won't work on it :\

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  2 роки тому +1

      Rockbox unfortunately wont run on any clip past the zip (they changed chips and the rockbox devs basically said there's not enough ram on the new chip to even boot rockbox). This particular model supports mp3, wav, wma, aac and flac.

  • @mikety6412
    @mikety6412 2 роки тому +1

    Also could you still use the the SD card that it came from the mp3 player an put music in it an put it back in the mp3 player

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  2 роки тому

      Yes, so long as you don't reformat the original SD card you can always just put it back into the player and it'll work.

    • @mikety6412
      @mikety6412 2 роки тому

      @@sjm4306 what I'm trying to do is use my otg wire and put using my android phone to transfer files using

    • @mikety6412
      @mikety6412 2 роки тому

      My phone but the mp3 player saying it needs to refomat the player it trys to do it but the player won't let it.is there some type of software or anything that I can use doing it through my phone . since I don't have access to a computer

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  2 роки тому

      Do not even try to reformat the player except through it's own settings menu. Historically on several other models of mp3 player this has been an easy way to corrupt and brick them. It honestly should just work as it's a fat32 formatted mass storage drive. You may have to try another file browser app than the one you are using. Does the mp3 player drive mount or does it say it's corrupted? Also what model phone are you using?

    • @mikety6412
      @mikety6412 2 роки тому

      @@sjm4306 for like several seconds it will say when I otg with my phone the icon will Pop up the read it needs to be formatted it trys to do it then It reads that It corrupt.i have a motto e 6

  • @jamespotter7673
    @jamespotter7673 2 роки тому

    Is there anyway I can remove the prison block from my SanDisk sport model MP3? I was thinking since the music I downloaded is on the SD card, then there should be a way to get it to play?

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  2 роки тому

      When you mount it as a usb drive to a computer can you see the mp3 files in one of the folders?

  • @SolarizeYourLife
    @SolarizeYourLife 2 роки тому

    But have you ever max out the 16 gig card...

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  2 роки тому +1

      Yes, my music library at 320kpbs is easily over 32gb. I've done the whole compression and swapping out music every once and awhile game before to fit more music on smaller capacity players in the past but it's 2022 and sd cards with large capacities are cheap now so why not.

  • @OzArkieBelle
    @OzArkieBelle 3 роки тому +1

    My old Sanza Fuse has a mic

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  3 роки тому

      Older sansa clips did as well, I guess why it was removed from this iteration is it'd be harder to keep the water-resistance rating and have a mic hole in the case than to just omit the feature.

  • @VanBridges-h2g
    @VanBridges-h2g Рік тому

    Do you have contact info I need a image of the firmware for mine

  • @pumaofmass
    @pumaofmass Рік тому

    Bro I need your help my nephew in juvenile and he sent me a list of music that he wanted me to download on a San disk but i down loaded the app music cloud but I can’t figure out how to download the music that I already download from music cloud to the disk

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  Рік тому

      If you know the name of the song you downloaded just search for it in the file browser. I only use android so I really only know how to do this on android. Most android audio apps store music in the audio or music folder, but I've never used music cloud so I cant say for sure. Once you find the file location you can hook your phone up to a computer, using file explorer to go to that filepath location you found earlier and copy the music off there and onto the mp3 player.

  • @conartistseba3538
    @conartistseba3538 Рік тому

    Do you have a copy of that .img flash file from the SanDisk firmware? Is there a way you could send it over email?

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  Рік тому +1

      The entire image is the full capacity of the device so a 16gb file. Also unfortunately it seems I deleted it so I'd have to redump it from the 32gb card in it now making it even larger and I just dont have that much free space in my cloud account.

    • @Jp-eg7th
      @Jp-eg7th Рік тому

      I thought img files even bitwise compress a huge amount. So a 32gb will probably shrink to barely a few mb

    • @Jp-eg7th
      @Jp-eg7th Рік тому

      Provided there's nothing on it but the firmware and bootloader of course.

  • @fightingfinn1503
    @fightingfinn1503 3 роки тому +2

    but can you play skyrim on it?

  • @49684
    @49684 7 місяців тому

    🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕

  • @sayntfuu
    @sayntfuu Рік тому +1

    People laugh at me for still using my Sansa Clip+ 64 GB. Ii is much lighter than the phone. And no GPS tracking in it that I am aware of.

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  Рік тому +1

      One of the best bang for buck mp3 players imo

  • @mikety6412
    @mikety6412 2 роки тому

    How can you reformat using my android phone to transfer files to my mp3 player

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  2 роки тому

      Only reformat using the settings menu option. To transfer music from an android phone just connect using an otg lead and use a file browser app to open the sansa as a mass storage device and put music into the music folder.

  • @jonhoms7491
    @jonhoms7491 3 роки тому

    Do you have the img for download????

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  3 роки тому

      Sorry, it'd take way too much bandwidth to upload (it's a 16gb image file), you are best off dumping it from your own player first.

    • @jonhoms7491
      @jonhoms7491 3 роки тому

      @@sjm4306 Forgot that LOL got one with just a white screen, some one tried to update it

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  3 роки тому

      Oof that sucks

  • @MarcosRodriguez-f4i
    @MarcosRodriguez-f4i Рік тому

    How can I unlock my mp3 is a SanDisk

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  Рік тому

      What do you mean by unlock?

  • @BSOE3058
    @BSOE3058 3 роки тому +2

    ohh, Shame it's not old SanDisc MP3, I was lil bit late when I learned about those, and when I wanted to buy one, I couldn't find any, only new ones, without Rockbox

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  3 роки тому

      I have quite a few older sandisk mp3 players, I used to always have one in my pocket ready to go. And when rockbox came out oh boy I had some real fun with them.

  • @themdamngorgonites5159
    @themdamngorgonites5159 2 роки тому

    can you jailbreak the "prison" version of these? It has firmware installed that does not allow you to use it unless you renew it on a kiosk while locked up. there is a way to remove it and re-install new firmware.

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  2 роки тому +2

      Easiest way would be to get a dump of an unlocked firmware and just overwrite the locked one on the internal sd card.

    • @themdamngorgonites5159
      @themdamngorgonites5159 2 роки тому

      @@sjm4306 what If i just remove the internal sd card and re-format it? Do you think that will work? I just want the sd card to use in a different mp3. thanks!

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  2 роки тому

      Yeah that will work for another mp3 player, so long as you understand that will effectively brick the sandisk.

    • @themdamngorgonites5159
      @themdamngorgonites5159 2 роки тому +1

      @@sjm4306 I have found the website for deinstitutionalizing the mp3. Now I just have to make up my mind what I want to do. Thanks for the help!

    • @themdamngorgonites5159
      @themdamngorgonites5159 2 роки тому

      Did the SD card that you pulled out of the mp3 player allow you full use of the 16gbs?

  • @John-hn1mq
    @John-hn1mq Рік тому

    I have an mp3 player that's not working. I would place an SD card into it that has music on it and nothing will show. Can any one help me?

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  Рік тому

      What brand/model is the mp3 player? Also how is the sd card formatted and what's the size/capacity?

  • @mikejamess8642
    @mikejamess8642 2 роки тому

    How do you remove the firmware???

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  2 роки тому +1

      You put the sd card directly into a computer and use a program like win32 disk imager to rip the image to a bin file.

    • @mikejamess8642
      @mikejamess8642 2 роки тому

      @@sjm4306 ok and this will work on the SanDisk sport clip mp3 ???

    • @mikejamess8642
      @mikejamess8642 2 роки тому

      @@sjm4306 federal prisons put a certain type of firmware on this device that take away features like the folders for movies , I want deinstitutionalize the device, will the win32 disk imager work? Also I only have an Android phone, can I use a similar app?

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  2 роки тому

      Ah I understand now, so you will need to reflash the unit with the regular consumer firmware. I honestly have no idea though if the locked down firmware on your unit will allow that through the normal update process. Worst case you can do the cloning technique to directly overwrite the firmware on the sd card inside but you will need a dump of the sd card from a consumer clip of the same model.

  • @RobertoGarcia-rs2fk
    @RobertoGarcia-rs2fk 2 роки тому

    Can u decrypted the memory in a mp3 that been sold in jail

  • @JenniferMartinez-mg8dy
    @JenniferMartinez-mg8dy 3 роки тому

    Can you help me My Sansa clip says , *refresh database can you yelp

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  3 роки тому

      Is there a progress bar? If you have a lot of music or have a big sd card inserted this can take awhile. Leave it for a good 10-15 minutes and if it still is stuck then it's possible a corrupted music file is causing it to hang.

  • @nyobunknown6983
    @nyobunknown6983 2 роки тому

    Use a tripod. All the movement makes it hard to watch.

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  2 роки тому

      A full on tripod wont fit near my desk with me seated (I've definitely tried). I have a flex arm that I usually use for steadier shots, but for some reason didn't use it for this video. I think I was in a rush that day and couldn't find where I put the mount so I just shot in hand.

  • @AlexDaDermahurr
    @AlexDaDermahurr 8 місяців тому +1

    i have over 10,000 songs on mine
    4,000 is bs (for the most part)

    • @AlexDaDermahurr
      @AlexDaDermahurr 8 місяців тому +1

      cant wait to do this on my red 32gb
      im gonna try to do a 512gb card

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  8 місяців тому

      Good to know the song limit is higher, also pls let us know if 512gb works!

  • @edwardfletcher7790
    @edwardfletcher7790 3 роки тому +1

    Please, please use a tripod.

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  3 роки тому +1

      I actually do have a tripod/flex arm thingy, but it's a royal pain to fit on my bench without bumping it and knocking it over so sometimes I get fed up with it and go handheld. I really need to make some sort of overhead mount that won't get in the way all the time.

    • @edwardfletcher7790
      @edwardfletcher7790 3 роки тому +2

      @@sjm4306 I appreciate that, I get motion sick from wobbly videos tho' ☹️
      A very clever hack I saw was a 1/4" bolt threaded into a Coke bottle lid. The guy then simply filled a 2L bottle with water, screwed a $50 4K Go Pro clone on and put it in the top. Bingo, 50c tripod.

    • @sjm4306
      @sjm4306  3 роки тому +2

      I'll see about getting something like one of those articulating locking magnifying lens/lamp arms with the screw table mounts. Then I can 3d print some sort of phone mount for it so I can easily reposition it, it'd much better than any of my current mounting methods.

  • @ats5898
    @ats5898 2 роки тому +1

    yOU ARE ANawesome tinkerer. I cant even get the Sports Clip to register on my laptop, pc or anything else