His books are so well done, especially for rereading like he says here. Rereading these books a second, third, even fourth time, is so rewarding! I love him.
i got a set of all the books when season 4 finished, which was when i first started watching the show, and i was so frantic with reading them to find out what happened i really dont have much recollection of what even happened in feast and dance o.o exactly like grrm says in the interview. must make time to sit down in a comfy place and go through them all much more slowly again
@@doxasophosmoros I don't think you should criticize other people's writing when almost none of your sentences make any sense. George is a brilliant writer and you're just a keyboard warrior who has no idea what they're talking about.
kaboom half these claims make no sense, “most fan fics are better than his last few shitty books”??? Where’d that come from? Why are you watching this then. I ironic thing is you typed this all out as if you’re a bestseller. How’s your book coming, are you lord grimdark?
I want to see GRRM finish the books and then just write short stories from the world. I think if he does short stories he stays engaged and doesn't get bored or pressured to finish. Then we have these little pieces just building the world larger and larger.
I want to see him finish it too but I can’t see it happening soon. He recently said he was falling behind. I’m not sure what that means, he’s already behind but I think his drive to write it just evaporates as soon as it comes. He’s now sign a deal to create new shows for HBO so I doubt we’ll get to see him finish it. I can’t see how he’ll have time.
I agree but isn't that more from our world. Why would they have those colors? It had no significance. I saw Renly first in the show so i looked for it when I read the books and it was difficult to find. Very very subtle.
@@Got-Raider-Camus I read the books after watching the show. I just assumed his character was gay in the books, like 100% no arguments about it gay. Sex scenes that were gay. Not only are there no gay sex scenes in the books -- there's not even that many sex scenes at all. And if they are there it's to serve some narrative purpose like the only one I can even think of is from Book 1, Dany and Khal Drogo's sex scenes. I guess I mainly remember them because in the books she was like 12-14 years old and he was a 30-40 year old warlord. The HBO production is the reason so many people have this idea that Thrones books and show are so hyper-sexual and violent. That was mainly just the show's doing.
@@voteZDLR Just off the top of my head: Tyrion has several sex scenes with Shae, Jon has sex with Ygritte, Dany has sex with Drogo, Hizdahr and sexual encounters with her handmaids, Sam has sex with Gilly, Arianne has sex with Aerys Oakheart, Theon has sex with the daughter of the captain of the ship he takes to the iron islands, Cersei has sex with Taena of Myr, Jaime has sex with Cersei, Asha has sex with Qarl the maid, VIctarion has sex with the dusky woman. And this is just POV characters having sex, to say nothing of sex acts witnessed by the characters. To say there aren't many sex scenes is just not true lol.
@@ericl8261 Not as many as there are in the show. In the show they'd have you believe that's all that's going on in the fucking books. I am not going to sit here and argue with you about it, though. My point in saying any of that at all is that the show would have you believe that's all it's about is sex, dragons and violence and it's only just noteworthy in that it has a handful of sex scenes at all. You act like that's a lot of sex scenes just anyway, you realize we're talking 5000 pages of manuscript and you pointed out what, 15 instances of sex across the five books? Not nearly as prolific as the show would make it seem. That's all I am trying to say. Go ahead and nitpick some more though I know you will.
@@doxasophosmoros Well, maybe Jaime goes there at some point or Daenerys tries to take it like she did in the show. It wouldn't be that hard to write it into the story. And considering the next two books are massive, I'm sure George will find a way to do so. Also we've seen almost every single important castle in Westeros, it would be really weird if we didn't see the Rock. And yeah George said the basic ending is the same as in the show but also there are so many cool characters and storylines that didn't make it into the GoT that we still have to see.
Casterly Rock sounds like it'd be so awful to live at. I'm not even claustrophobic, but you're literally living in a mine, with the ocean creating echos all night. Tyrion said he had reworked the sewage system, so that the shit never flowed better, but can you imagine when that wasn't the case? At any rate, I'm still fascinated by the idea of it!
I’m 100% certain Skagos will be in TWOW, as part of Davos’ story arc. If Highgarden happens, it will probably be in Samwell’s chapters, although I think we’ are more likely to see Horn Hill instead, There is also a possibility Gulltown or Runestone might appear in Sansa/Alayne’s chapters.
@@freezingmoon TWOW's prologue will must likely be in the Riverlands, since GRRM confirmed that Jeyne Westerling is in it. He also said there is no plan to add any other POV characters. Highgarden, if appearing at all, would be in the middle of the book. The only POV character known to be anywhere near there is Samwell, who is currently in Oldtown and plans to take Gilly to Horn Hill for his mother to take care of. Other POV characters are either too far away, or going somewhere else.
He’s absolutely right about the 2nd reading and picking up so many hints. I’m pretty much reading super closely now and I’ll reread a page to make sure I grasp the information.
The chance of him finishing is likely high. Each book would take no more than 1,000 pages maximum, 500 minimum. (Based on his previous books) For 2 books that would be 600,000 words for 1,000 pages/book. And if you write a measly 300 words a day then it equals roughly 109,000 words a year. 109,000 x 6 years= 600,000 words ^which is more than enough for the 2 books to be What I'm trying to say is, even if he takes 7 years at a super super super slow snail pace then it should be finished by then.
Thanks so much for uploading all these, great for anyone who wants to study his work properly. Any chance you can starting putting the interview dates in the description going forward?
At this point I’m thinking GRRM is realizing he will need another book to finish this story. I’m betting a lot of what’s taking so long is the fact that he has to reorder and figure out how to do this in just 2 books. Or figuring out what he needs to change to finish the series in 3 books.
I know this is a 3yr old comment, lol, but... I think George saw how poorly people reacted to some of HIS ideas when the show ended (ie: Bran becoming King), that he panicked & decided to change it, which would be really difficult, if he already had some stuff written, but now has to re-write a bunch of it.
@@KabbalahSherryI don't think we have a problem with Bran becoming a king specifically, but with how it was accessed in the show, and with how dirty they did other characters arcs
Maybe - just maybe he’s going to release The Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring at the same time of The Winds of Winter. He would be praised throughout all The Realm.
My dad and I had both read the books before ever watching the show. He was so shocked during the Renly/Loras scene in season 1, and I was just sitting there like, "did we read the same book???"
I'd like to know more about the minor houses in central and northern Westeros. Like we know House Slate rules from a place called Blackpool somewhere in the north. Where? And who rules from Ramsgate which is always on every map of the North. Yet we rarely get a marked location of house Bracken and Blackwood. I'd love to ask Martin about why he reveals some places and not others.
@@Carlos-ln8fd Yup. That's why I think anime should be explored as a medium for western fantasy novel adaptations. Everyone's too focused on live-action. Even A Song of Ice & Fire could've worked well in animation. Things like book-accurate Iron Throne would've actually been doable.
If he lives long enough? That's funny. I hope he lives forever and keeps writing. I started reading the first book of Game of Thrones after already watching half of the show. I couldn't put the book down. I couldn't stop. I read all of them in one shot.
I really enjoyed his response for the last question about becoming a successful author in science fiction. I'm working on a fantasy novel right now, but I have had a few good ideas for sci-fi stories I never thought were worth a major investment, but maybe writing a few as a break from my novel and submitting them could do some good. Thanks for all these interview uploads!
How is it sad? He's a hack. He has made people waste money on merchandise into the 100,000 (I've spent 7000at least! And I'm young and poor as ,Nearly homeless, and as an award winning artist and writer myself I respected him till I realised in 2015 that he is a HACK. and his descriptions amount to nothing. There IS NO FORESHADOWING! CAUSE THE FORESHADOWING NEVER FUCKING HAPPENS. AND YOU CANT WRAP THIS UP ANYWAY. HES BULLSHITTING US WITH MOST OF HIS AUDIENCE, WHOCH IS WGY JE KILLS OFF THE BEST CHARACTERS AND FAMILOES, BUT LEAVES BRAN AND ARYA AND BRONN AND BRIENNE ALIVE.. WTF,FUCK THEM! THEY PLAYED GAME OF THRONES THE WORST! where is tywin? Stanis? Varys? LITTLEFINGER? Olenna?! Dorne? Jorah... heck, Anyone in ESSOS?!? It's all bullshit!! Tyrion should have at least ended up retiring on casterly rock with Daenerys hand maiden! That would have been lovely. And Jon should marry sansa. Arya should die. Jaime should live as a paraplegic Maester of war and be Briennes partner and create the best soldiers ever,together Samwell and Gilly should have gone to high garden to live and be merry, as they are, so typical.. Grrm writing is cliche as fuck btw... And build a library and University or some shit. Heck,to make it historically accurate and complete, and PHILOSOPHICALLY POSITIVE, have Jon die to sacrifice himself Sansa to rule! And she PREGGERS WITH HIS BABY.. FIRE AND ICE SHE'S EVEN A REDHEAD.. A PRINVE AND A pRINCESS should have been grrm last title! 😗😶😐.. I have a bucket load of ideas where that came from,I've just been riffing off the top of my head , but again I'm an artist and writer , heavily creatively talented,more so than Grrm .. and it's no point being humble,I mean look at his last two shit book and most of his work SUCK. my unpublished stuff shits on his published work. Writers should take a stand against this poser...this hack. Grrm is a fucking fraud. He knows nothing of war or women,he's never been in war or dated anyone,he can't write women for shit. He makes me cringe! He only writes good fashion clothing😂 descriptions! Haha ! Food and fashion! The decadent chump! Grrm.is not a scholar, he's no philosopher nor an academic! At all! He's a nerd! Stop acting like he's agod. He's not! The sooner you fanboys realise this,the better! 😓😒Cringe as fuck....
So pretty much D&D did stay true to GRRM's direction of the story. We saw both Highgarden & Casterly Rock in Season 7, Hold the Door scene, Jon's resurrection by Mel, Shireen Death, Battle of the Bastards, Destruction of Sept of Baelor & KL, Bran being king, etc. Most of those events are gonna be in WoW
The show really threw out subtly as far as Renly. If you consider Renly's peach speech, it's actually more likely that he's Bi. This plays into the larger question about Margery's use of moon tea (a contraceptive) and the renowned virility of Baratheon men.
Wasn't HL3 officially dropped ? Valve makes much more money with Steam than with any game they would publish. Because of that, they decided to release very few games, to polish them as much as possible. As for HL3, because they could never hope to meet the fans' expectations, they decided to drop the game, from my understanding
Yeah, but he also said this around the time of Season 2, judging by the screen. So maybe he's learnt his lesson since and will just finish the story he's already telling rather than needlessly complicating it more.
I don't know, man. I like that the story grows and becomes more complicated. I feel like a lot of the best parts of the book come from the new ideas that he tries out. Remember that he started the series because he didn't want any limits coming from the format or the lenght of the story. So by expanding it he's just living up to that idea.
As much as we all want it finished. People seem to forget that each book took a long time before the entire series blew up to be the most famous in the world which inevitably made the man more busy. That’s not even discussing the input he had on the show which took even more time from an already time poor schedule because of the success. It’s going to be the biggest book of the entire series. It’s probably a mix of being time poor. The fact that that’s always how he has written. Wanting to get it right to the point where maybe he’s obsessive and also. Why would you deliver for fans that seem to do nothing but completely shit on you and put you under pressure. Nothing about that makes you think, wow I just can’t wait to Pour my blood sweat and tears into this product for people who do absolutely nothing but criticise me. For something I do voluntarily.
Im glad that last question came up. Thing is, I havent been doing what George suggested, and Im kind of at the point of no return. But I'm authoring my first novel and Im glad to hear that, just in general, George is claiming it's easy to get into the industry.
Would he talk so much about other stories if the main story, the story of his career is not finished ? The world of Ice and Fire will not end with the Song of Ice and Fire. That's good to hear. But after we'll have finished reading A song of Ice and Fire, we must understand why this is the most important (key) story of this world. In it's history, Planetos had many defining moments. George must have focused on this story for a reason. Can't wait to find out!
Well, I think The Long Night(s) are the most pivotal moments in the story because they show whether or not humanity will be destroyed, which is kinda as big of stakes as you can have. And the series will definitely end with the second long night, and with a more permanent resolution than the first long night.
So he thinks that voice overs are a sign that simethng does not work. I wonder what he thinks of the inside the episode of the show,where d&d explain what they wouldn't show.
Your MAN CANT EVEN FINISH A BOOK! You stupid NPC.You're talking about the SUSPENDERS THE WARDROBE LADY PUT ON HIM🤣. Just wow. Meanwhile He WILL NEVER wrap this up to even be satisfactory ! He's filled it up with bullshit pov and left his side characters AMD MAIN CHARCTERS DANGLING!!! he will never complete it and that's his goal ,he's a shifty bugger. He's a fraud. He's no Tolkien. Tolkien created languages,germ never did! Tolkien finished books! Grrm can't! Tolkien worked full time as a professor and had 5 kids! Grrm has NEither of those and NP CREDENTIALS! GRRM WEASLED HIS WAY OUT OF THE VIETNAM WAR, TOLKIEN WAS DRAFTED! TOLKIEN WAS A GENIUS,A SCHOLAR AND CREATIVE PERSON,GRRM IS A NERD! GRRM IS DERIVATIVE (I BET YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT WORD MEANS,DO YOU?,🤣....🙄😑😐) GRRM IS A HACK! a failed SciFi author! I'm so sick of you ppl participating in this mass delusion, funneling money to a loser who has such a huge ego, no empathy,and HE WILL NEVER EVER DELIVER! He's a fucking parasite. Even the shows creators and actors are cursed by George RR Martin! And I'm the first the coin this, right here right now- too! Just watch, the actors and all involved will be haunted by this show and the blow back ... You sick, sycophants are making it worse, when the true loser here is George. He's only famous cause of the show, can't you even remember that far back?!? You're so pathetic.
@@malirabbit6228 Your MAN CANT EVEN FINISH A BOOK! You stupid NPC.You're talking about the SUSPENDERS THE WARDROBE LADY PUT ON HIM🤣. Just wow. Meanwhile He WILL NEVER wrap this up to even be satisfactory ! He's filled it up with bullshit pov and left his side characters AMD MAIN CHARCTERS DANGLING!!! he will never complete it and that's his goal ,he's a shifty bugger. He's a fraud. He's no Tolkien. Tolkien created languages,germ never did! Tolkien finished books! Grrm can't! Tolkien worked full time as a professor and had 5 kids! Grrm has NEither of those and NP CREDENTIALS! GRRM WEASLED HIS WAY OUT OF THE VIETNAM WAR, TOLKIEN WAS DRAFTED! TOLKIEN WAS A GENIUS,A SCHOLAR AND CREATIVE PERSON,GRRM IS A NERD! GRRM IS DERIVATIVE (I BET YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT WORD MEANS,DO YOU?,🤣....🙄😑😐) GRRM IS A HACK! a failed SciFi author! I'm so sick of you ppl participating in this mass delusion, funneling money to a loser who has such a huge ego, no empathy,and HE WILL NEVER EVER DELIVER! He's a fucking parasite. Even the shows creators and actors are cursed by George RR Martin! And I'm the first the coin this, right here right now- too! Just watch, the actors and all involved will be haunted by this show and the blow back ... You sick, sycophants are making it worse, when the true loser here is George. He's only famous cause of the show, can't you even remember that far back?!? You're so pathetic.
@@jakehopkins6989 The terms do not contradict each other. "Pandemic" refers to the global spread of a contagious disease while "epidemic" references outbreaks of any size.
The hints that Renly is gay are not that subtle. He tells Stannis that Margaery came to his bed a maiden to which Stannis replied that in his bed she would remain a maiden. Loras, who is eager to be a kingsguard, gets sad and defensive when Sansa mentions Renly and is particularly hateful towards Brienne and later Stannis whom he believes at certain points, to have killed Renly. Jaime pretty much mentions to Loras that he believes Loras and Renly had sex. Margaery claims to be a virgin when she is married to Tommen and a lot of people don't seem to find that too surprising. This is just off the top of my head. I mean some of these are subtle but Stannis and Jaime are pretty explicit. It seems that in Westeros homosexuality is a bit of a taboo but also something that is thought about in a very different way than we do. It seems that Westerosi don't really have a word for homosexuality. They refer to men having sex with men or being interested in men and to 'buggering' but they usually qualify the act or interest, rarely the person. I guess that combined with the fact that Renly and Loras are not that close to any pov characters makes these things easier to miss as well, especially if you are still trying to keep up with who this character is again.
@@FreakieFan Oh i know for a fact, from his blog, that he is traveling & doing talks. just that there are no videos of them on internet. i found a few quotes from the talks on twitter but would be great to have a video.
@@FreakieFan wow too little too late! He will never wrap this up to even be satisfactory ! He's filled it up with bullshit pov and left his side characters AMD MAIN CHARCTERS DANGLING!!! he will never complete it and that's his goal ,he's a shifty bugger. He's a fraud. He's no Tolkien. Tolkien created languages,germ never did! Tolkien finished books! Grrm can't! Tolkien worked full time as a professor and had 5 kids! Grrm has NEither of those and NP CREDENTIALS! GRRM WEASLED HIS WAY OUT OF THE VIETNAM WAR, TOLKIEN WAS DRAFTED! TOLKIEN WAS A GENIUS,A SCHOLAR AND CREATIVE PERSON,GRRM IS A NERD! GRRM IS DERIVATIVE (I BET YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT WORD MEANS,DO YOU?,🤣....🙄😑😐) GRRM IS A HACK! a failed SciFi author! I'm so sick of you ppl participating in this mass delusion, funneling money to a loser who has such a huge ego, no empathy,and HE WILL NEVER EVER DELIVER! He's a fucking parasite. Even the shows creators and actors are cursed by George RR Martin! And I'm the first the coin this, right here right now- too! Just watch, the actors and all involved will be haunted by this show and the blow back ... You sick, sycophants are making it worse, when the true loser here is George. He's only famous cause of the show, can't you even remember that far back?!? You're so pathetic.
That completely different. The readers seeing jaime and Cersei’s sex scene through brans POV advanced the plot forward and thickened it because now we’re wondering “is bran gonna survive his fall, what does this mean for the queen and her children, what does this mean for the starks and the lannisters” where as loras and Renlys relationship doesn’t reall do all that much for the plot so it would be kinda lame if someone just walked in on them and was like “oh these two guys are gay”. It wouldn’t have nearly the same impact as bran seeing Jaime and Cersei go at it
@@Tr3ysean if george really cared though he could have put elaborate effort into making it known they're in a relationship, like how bran saw jaime and cersei, but it's just kind of in the background of the books and doesn't get mentioned at all and that's the only same-sex relationship in all the books. the amount of hetero sex in the books is ridiculous and george is making up that excuse to cover the fact he didn't want to touch same-sex relationships, so yeah.
Before I watched Game of Thrones, I had suspicions that Renly was gay. Rainbow Guard, Knight of Flowers is his bff. He doesn't see advances from a woman who is so obviously in love with him. Then Loras tells Renly Stanis has the personality of a lobster.
Thanks for paraphrasing bullshit from the shit books that means fuck all and MATTERS NOTHING ....SINCE ALL THOSE FAMILIES DIE from bullshit Nonsensical DOG tactics ... It's so unfounded and so unexplained, it's piss poor writing with no tension. It's all FILLER. FILLER. FILLER. NO CONSEQUENCES. Like I said the show made the narrative. The music, COSTUMES, LIGHTING, MAKEUP, budget, direction etc but it still made NO SENSE. George's story after book three lost the plot and sucked since then,he turned into a soap opera , to be edgy I guess, but it was the biggest mistake of his fucking life ... 😂. He will never finish this story now and he never intended to! He has had a team of people who help him for 10 years, and even still, he can't finish it! 😂🤣 Pathetic!
Ehhh, the thing about the rainbow, may be a meta reference. But when you take this from the Wiki of Ice and Fire: The rainbow connects the organization to the Faith of the Seven, for which the rainbow is a religious symbol. That being a reference to that flag begins to sound less likely.
That's a very unfair accusation. The dude writes like crazy. About 12 chapters of Winds are out online if you want to read them and by 2015 he said 400 pages were done. He clearly is writing and the reason it's taking so long is because the book is huge (at least 1500 pages) and he wants it to be good.
@@thecatfather857 a year ago he said the book was coming out this summer and because of the quarantine he said he's writing non-stop. my guess is that he's in the last third.
@@thecatfather857 he said if the book wasn't finished by the beginning of Worldcon in New Zealand people had the right to imprison him. The con has been cancelled of course, but according to his updates it seems like the book is still very much unfinished.
This interview took place on March 13, 2012. I need to go cry now.
KellieSand04 LOL shiiiitttt
Wowowowowow
Oh, well...bye, George!
I know, right. How fucked is this?
Well it’s good that the books are going to be packed with perfect details making it impossible to be a let down
A pov in highgarden would be awesome
Garlan Tyrell 😍
Storms end my dudes
Willas Tyrell!!!
Willas Tyrell!
It would be intresting to have another brain as Tywin's in the game of thrones (no one can be like Tywin, but similiar)
I think it will be Loras Tyrell (if theres is a new pov), or even Willas if it is a prologue or something.
Winds of winter will be located on the west coast of hiatus.
@Lucius Cornelius Sulla Felix 😏👌
@@RebornVengeancex I just wana fkn know what is happening in old town
Sam's been there for almost a decade.
@@davestuddaman8127 he kinda forgot to leave...
*Hiatos ;)
@Maintenance Renegade I really hate Griffith
His books are so well done, especially for rereading like he says here. Rereading these books a second, third, even fourth time, is so rewarding! I love him.
i got a set of all the books when season 4 finished, which was when i first started watching the show, and i was so frantic with reading them to find out what happened i really dont have much recollection of what even happened in feast and dance o.o exactly like grrm says in the interview. must make time to sit down in a comfy place and go through them all much more slowly again
I recently did my 11th reread lol. It’s one of those few books like LOTR and Kingkiller Chronicles that REWARD you for rereads
@@factbeaglesarebest I don’t even know how many times I read the books. They were literally falling apart. Audible every night.
I can't wait to read "The Winds of Winter" when it comes out in 20 years
I'm glad I just started reading so I'm not waiting as long lol. I haven't even seen the show I just like looking up source material
@@angelcanez4426 You say that know but in 2040...
He said he should have It done around mid 2020, but who knows.
don't be crazy! 10-15 years more like. ;p
@@angelcanez4426 you;ll just be waiting for A Dream of Spring to come in space year 2027
This is from 2012, when Renly's sex scene was the latest episode lol.
wtf, really .. what a dupe.
Wow
Fml
If only we knew that in 2024 it would still not be out lmao
It's almost like George is scared to disappoint with Winds of Winter
It's going to be a tough book. He said it's the darkest in the series which is scary considering the stuff in the previous books.
@@Carlos-ln8fd it was dark how shit the last two aka ONE was since 2006!
@@doxasophosmoros
I don't think you should criticize other people's writing when almost none of your sentences make any sense. George is a brilliant writer and you're just a keyboard warrior who has no idea what they're talking about.
kaboom half these claims make no sense, “most fan fics are better than his last few shitty books”??? Where’d that come from? Why are you watching this then. I ironic thing is you typed this all out as if you’re a bestseller. How’s your book coming, are you lord grimdark?
It's inevitable after 10 years of anticipation.
I want to see GRRM finish the books and then just write short stories from the world. I think if he does short stories he stays engaged and doesn't get bored or pressured to finish. Then we have these little pieces just building the world larger and larger.
I want to see him finish it too but I can’t see it happening soon. He recently said he was falling behind. I’m not sure what that means, he’s already behind but I think his drive to write it just evaporates as soon as it comes.
He’s now sign a deal to create new shows for HBO so I doubt we’ll get to see him finish it. I can’t see how he’ll have time.
I’m curious to see a few short stories around the Summer Isles, or maybe a history on House Dayne, similar to Fire & Blood.
the fact that people where surprised that Renly's gay, I mean, his kingsguard was called the Rainbow Guard, people!
I agree but isn't that more from our world. Why would they have those colors? It had no significance. I saw Renly first in the show so i looked for it when I read the books and it was difficult to find. Very very subtle.
@@Got-Raider-Camus I read the books after watching the show. I just assumed his character was gay in the books, like 100% no arguments about it gay. Sex scenes that were gay. Not only are there no gay sex scenes in the books -- there's not even that many sex scenes at all. And if they are there it's to serve some narrative purpose like the only one I can even think of is from Book 1, Dany and Khal Drogo's sex scenes. I guess I mainly remember them because in the books she was like 12-14 years old and he was a 30-40 year old warlord. The HBO production is the reason so many people have this idea that Thrones books and show are so hyper-sexual and violent. That was mainly just the show's doing.
@@voteZDLR Just off the top of my head: Tyrion has several sex scenes with Shae, Jon has sex with Ygritte, Dany has sex with Drogo, Hizdahr and sexual encounters with her handmaids, Sam has sex with Gilly, Arianne has sex with Aerys Oakheart, Theon has sex with the daughter of the captain of the ship he takes to the iron islands, Cersei has sex with Taena of Myr, Jaime has sex with Cersei, Asha has sex with Qarl the maid, VIctarion has sex with the dusky woman. And this is just POV characters having sex, to say nothing of sex acts witnessed by the characters. To say there aren't many sex scenes is just not true lol.
Because the Priesthood of the Seven is so gay!
@@ericl8261 Not as many as there are in the show. In the show they'd have you believe that's all that's going on in the fucking books. I am not going to sit here and argue with you about it, though. My point in saying any of that at all is that the show would have you believe that's all it's about is sex, dragons and violence and it's only just noteworthy in that it has a handful of sex scenes at all. You act like that's a lot of sex scenes just anyway, you realize we're talking 5000 pages of manuscript and you pointed out what, 15 instances of sex across the five books? Not nearly as prolific as the show would make it seem. That's all I am trying to say. Go ahead and nitpick some more though I know you will.
1:30 my heart stopped when he said if I live long enough.😨 Please live long. I’m praying for you.
selfish prayer
Long may he live!
So excited to see Casterly Rock
It won't happen. No scenes happen in casterly rock, not even Tyrion gets to inherit it! You saw George's ending on the show. That was his.
@@doxasophosmoros Well, maybe Jaime goes there at some point or Daenerys tries to take it like she did in the show. It wouldn't be that hard to write it into the story. And considering the next two books are massive, I'm sure George will find a way to do so.
Also we've seen almost every single important castle in Westeros, it would be really weird if we didn't see the Rock.
And yeah George said the basic ending is the same as in the show but also there are so many cool characters and storylines that didn't make it into the GoT that we still have to see.
Casterly Rock sounds like it'd be so awful to live at. I'm not even claustrophobic, but you're literally living in a mine, with the ocean creating echos all night. Tyrion said he had reworked the sewage system, so that the shit never flowed better, but can you imagine when that wasn't the case? At any rate, I'm still fascinated by the idea of it!
@@doxasophosmoros wtf do u know
@@dandeleon2764 bro u have no idea
Thanks for these uploads! I do have a suggestion, though. Would you mind putting the date of these interviews in the descriptions? Thank you.
shellturtleguy just go to the “full interview” and look at the date
shellturtleguy I was hoping for the same!
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I’m 100% certain Skagos will be in TWOW, as part of Davos’ story arc.
If Highgarden happens, it will probably be in Samwell’s chapters, although I think we’ are more likely to see Horn Hill instead,
There is also a possibility Gulltown or Runestone might appear in Sansa/Alayne’s chapters.
Rickon ?
Maybe we'll have Highgarden on the prologue, who knows. I mean, that's my visceral guess.
@@freezingmoon
TWOW's prologue will must likely be in the Riverlands, since GRRM confirmed that Jeyne Westerling is in it. He also said there is no plan to add any other POV characters.
Highgarden, if appearing at all, would be in the middle of the book. The only POV character known to be anywhere near there is Samwell, who is currently in Oldtown and plans to take Gilly to Horn Hill for his mother to take care of. Other POV characters are either too far away, or going somewhere else.
@@voltirussk4608 That's the purpose of Davos visiting Skagos, so yeah...
@@smartiejl Wait, when did he said that? Oh fuck, I hope Jeyne it's not the narrator.
The honesty with which he speaks is just amazing
Brit
Nah I’m a huge fan of asoiaf but he’s been lying for the past few years he ain’t releasing winds of winter let alone dream of spring
@@jamesford2192 George never promised to release them, he literally said in this interview 'if i finish them'
He’s absolutely right about the 2nd reading and picking up so many hints. I’m pretty much reading super closely now and I’ll reread a page to make sure I grasp the information.
I’m just here for Skagos
Can’t wait till the Skagos scenes!!!!
1:05 “If” he finishes the last two books? Oh hell that’s not good....
The chance of him finishing is likely high.
Each book would take no more than 1,000 pages maximum, 500 minimum. (Based on his previous books)
For 2 books that would be 600,000 words for 1,000 pages/book.
And if you write a measly 300 words a day then it equals roughly 109,000 words a year.
109,000 x 6 years= 600,000 words
^which is more than enough for the 2 books to be
What I'm trying to say is, even if he takes 7 years at a super super super slow snail pace then it should be finished by then.
This is from 2012
@@specialtwice4975 books six and seven will not he 300,000 words. They will definitely be the longest yet, and books 3 and 5 are over 400,000
@@specialtwice4975 you severely miscalculated
I’m so glad to see Wyman Manderly doing interviews again.
Thanks so much for uploading all these, great for anyone who wants to study his work properly. Any chance you can starting putting the interview dates in the description going forward?
Hunter X Hunter and Berserk will be finish before his series
Even detective conan and one piece xD
Chimera ant took 9 years lol, so did the guts on the boat arc. Maybe Berserk but probably not hxh.
Oh dear.
this hurts to read.
@@lightwoozy2439 **guts theme plays**
At this point I’m thinking GRRM is realizing he will need another book to finish this story. I’m betting a lot of what’s taking so long is the fact that he has to reorder and figure out how to do this in just 2 books. Or figuring out what he needs to change to finish the series in 3 books.
I know this is a 3yr old comment, lol, but... I think George saw how poorly people reacted to some of HIS ideas when the show ended (ie: Bran becoming King), that he panicked & decided to change it, which would be really difficult, if he already had some stuff written, but now has to re-write a bunch of it.
@@KabbalahSherryI don't think we have a problem with Bran becoming a king specifically, but with how it was accessed in the show, and with how dirty they did other characters arcs
1:45 that moment when you want to express a very simple question in very fancy way but George shuts you down with the summary of it lol.
That question was annoying as shit.
Winds of winter will just be a legend. I seriously dont see it ever coming out
I absolutely love this channel.
Maybe - just maybe he’s going to release The Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring at the same time of The Winds of Winter.
He would be praised throughout all The Realm.
He’s already said he’s not doing that…and all the realm is sadder for it
@@Dazz3rz450 dammit
thank you for posting the full interview link!
Imagine there was an opposite side of the world, where it had a fire king who woke up every thousand years...
My dad and I had both read the books before ever watching the show. He was so shocked during the Renly/Loras scene in season 1, and I was just sitting there like, "did we read the same book???"
I'd like to know more about the minor houses in central and northern Westeros. Like we know House Slate rules from a place called Blackpool somewhere in the north. Where? And who rules from Ramsgate which is always on every map of the North. Yet we rarely get a marked location of house Bracken and Blackwood. I'd love to ask Martin about why he reveals some places and not others.
Bruh I didn’t even realize he was 70. I hope he lives to 500
In order to finish an enjoy the series we all will need to live that that long!
He said "IF I FINISH THESE TWO BOOKS"
Not "WHEN I FINISH THESE TWO BOOKS"
Am I too paranoid? :(
1:06 did anyone else notice he said " if I finish the other 2 books" If , If , If !!!!!????
YUP. Sure did. Had to go back and make sure I heard it correctly.
He knows that he might not live long to finish it and came to terms with it
I think most everyone picked up on that. What surprised me was finding out this was back in 2012.
@@Jbreeze3878 It's actually better it was so long time ago. More like maybe tomorrow I get hit by a car and can't finish it.
“If I finish these last two books”
-Chronic Procrastinator
This procrastinator has a deadline more literal than other writers LoL
Nope, just someone with the utmost respect for what he is creating...
@@factbeaglesarebest nah someone who got sidetracked and lost interest
Fight Club is a movie where thought narration is completely ingenious.
Yeah but for every Fight Club we get 20 movies that use it horribly like Catwoman
@@Carlos-ln8fd And then we also have most anime / manga series where everyone monologues internally and no one bats an eye. :P
@@ThePreciseClimber i think anime does it pretty well. it's usually there to reveal character or explain abstract things like strategy.
@@Carlos-ln8fd Yup. That's why I think anime should be explored as a medium for western fantasy novel adaptations. Everyone's too focused on live-action.
Even A Song of Ice & Fire could've worked well in animation. Things like book-accurate Iron Throne would've actually been doable.
Me: Hey George when will the winds of winter be released
GRRM: *yes*
The only two new locations I want for Winds of Winter are#1 my local bookstore#2 my house! That's all I want George make it happen
notice the "if" i finish the last two books
Yes well, he can’t predict the future?
Storm’s End and the Stormlands would be cool to see.
Can't wait to see new locations in Winds of Winter❄⛄ 🔥🔥👍👍
Shawshank redemption has brilliant voice over of thoughts which ads to the film so there not all bad
A fantastic example of doing it well is Mr. Robot. Probably the best use of a narrator in recent memory in my opinion.
Sunset Boulevard is another great example where vo adds to the story
If he lives long enough? That's funny. I hope he lives forever and keeps writing.
I started reading the first book of Game of Thrones after already watching half of the show. I couldn't put the book down. I couldn't stop. I read all of them in one shot.
I really enjoyed his response for the last question about becoming a successful author in science fiction. I'm working on a fantasy novel right now, but I have had a few good ideas for sci-fi stories I never thought were worth a major investment, but maybe writing a few as a break from my novel and submitting them could do some good. Thanks for all these interview uploads!
Good luck!!
@@dorellanarange3614 thanks man!
How is it sad? He's a hack. He has made people waste money on merchandise into the 100,000 (I've spent 7000at least! And I'm young and poor as ,Nearly homeless, and as an award winning artist and writer myself I respected him till I realised in 2015 that he is a HACK. and his descriptions amount to nothing. There IS NO FORESHADOWING! CAUSE THE FORESHADOWING NEVER FUCKING HAPPENS. AND YOU CANT WRAP THIS UP ANYWAY.
HES BULLSHITTING US WITH MOST OF HIS AUDIENCE, WHOCH IS WGY JE KILLS OFF THE BEST CHARACTERS AND FAMILOES, BUT LEAVES BRAN AND ARYA AND BRONN AND BRIENNE ALIVE.. WTF,FUCK THEM! THEY PLAYED GAME OF THRONES THE WORST! where is tywin? Stanis? Varys? LITTLEFINGER? Olenna?! Dorne? Jorah... heck, Anyone in ESSOS?!? It's all bullshit!! Tyrion should have at least ended up retiring on casterly rock with Daenerys hand maiden! That would have been lovely.
And Jon should marry sansa.
Arya should die.
Jaime should live as a paraplegic Maester of war and be Briennes partner and create the best soldiers ever,together
Samwell and Gilly should have gone to high garden to live and be merry, as they are, so typical.. Grrm writing is cliche as fuck btw... And build a library and University or some shit.
Heck,to make it historically accurate and complete, and PHILOSOPHICALLY POSITIVE, have Jon die to sacrifice himself Sansa to rule! And she PREGGERS WITH HIS BABY.. FIRE AND ICE
SHE'S EVEN A REDHEAD.. A PRINVE AND A pRINCESS should have been grrm last title! 😗😶😐.. I have a bucket load of ideas where that came from,I've just been riffing off the top of my head , but again I'm an artist and writer , heavily creatively talented,more so than Grrm .. and it's no point being humble,I mean look at his last two shit book and most of his work SUCK. my unpublished stuff shits on his published work. Writers should take a stand against this poser...this hack. Grrm is a fucking fraud. He knows nothing of war or women,he's never been in war or dated anyone,he can't write women for shit. He makes me cringe! He only writes good fashion clothing😂 descriptions! Haha ! Food and fashion! The decadent chump!
Grrm.is not a scholar, he's no philosopher nor an academic! At all! He's a nerd! Stop acting like he's agod. He's not!
The sooner you fanboys realise this,the better! 😓😒Cringe as fuck....
@@doxasophosmoros yikes dude, get some help
A new george horror novel would be dope
So pretty much D&D did stay true to GRRM's direction of the story. We saw both Highgarden & Casterly Rock in Season 7, Hold the Door scene, Jon's resurrection by Mel, Shireen Death, Battle of the Bastards, Destruction of Sept of Baelor & KL, Bran being king, etc. Most of those events are gonna be in WoW
Hell yeah
are you sure battle of the bastards is actually going to happen in the books??
@@mia414 it’s not. It’s going to be the battle of the ice, Jon won’t be involved
Too bad the last two seasons were so poorly done
@@willbeard4835 Too bad HBO didn't have books to adapt.
I'm still picking things up on my 20th reread of Jons chapters
It would be cool if his left suspender had an ice pattern and then the fire pattern on the right.
Is Loras really burnt?
God bless you George
"IF i finish the last two books"
I wish you good fortune in the books to come.
From which year this interwiev was ? I think it's old one.
2015 i think
Jakub Kliś 2012
I think so too, he talks about Game of Thrones as a good and respected show. After season 8 travesty, no-one sane would.
Thanks guys. Still waiting for this 2 books. I'm sure that it will will better than TV serial as always was.
The show really threw out subtly as far as Renly. If you consider Renly's peach speech, it's actually more likely that he's Bi. This plays into the larger question about Margery's use of moon tea (a contraceptive) and the renowned virility of Baratheon men.
There was nothing bi sexual about Show Renly. HBO went full on homosexual with his character.
Netflix original series "you" largely depends on voice over of thoughts except they did it very well and the series became a hit
That's true
That's true!
God, now i want him to finish the two books so bad.. He mentioned that he wanted to write sci fi or horror. Imagine a cosmic horror novel by him.
That's what Euron's here for
He knows he’ll die before finishing a dream of spring 💔
Daddy George.
We will never see winds of winter 😢
Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth
@@OrangeJuiceDripping I have been right 7 months. I hope to be proven wrong
@@OrangeJuiceDripping this interview is 9 years old
1:05 "IF I finish this last two books..."
it was 2012
Winds of winter, Elder Scrolls 6, Half life 3.
Maybe we'll see them before we discover goddamn FTL travel.
Wasn't HL3 officially dropped ?
Valve makes much more money with Steam than with any game they would publish. Because of that, they decided to release very few games, to polish them as much as possible. As for HL3, because they could never hope to meet the fans' expectations, they decided to drop the game, from my understanding
Hey man I'm sure it will be great just send all your notes to Brandon Sanderson and maybe he can finish it after you pass.
@Keli Sealey I've never been accused of it, subtlety is lost on the average comment section dunce.
There is hope- there’s the possibility that it’ll be here by 2022...
this video is old , he was young back then
just finish dunk and egg when u finish winds or even if you don't
"You got fat."
"Look who's talking, Budget Santa."
Yeah, but he also said this around the time of Season 2, judging by the screen.
So maybe he's learnt his lesson since and will just finish the story he's already telling rather than needlessly complicating it more.
I don't know, man. I like that the story grows and becomes more complicated. I feel like a lot of the best parts of the book come from the new ideas that he tries out.
Remember that he started the series because he didn't want any limits coming from the format or the lenght of the story. So by expanding it he's just living up to that idea.
I respect your username, King Edward "Longshanks" I, Hammer of the Scots, Lord of...titles, titles, titles.
@@Carlos-ln8fd I agree.
As long as he finish the books I'm more than happy
Ayy its longhsanks
a sci-fi or horror novel set in the world of a song and ice and fire would be amazing
sci fi like a westeros 40k?
What was the date of this interview?
Sura Majeed not at all recent. I remember seeing the whole thing. I think it’s from 2011 or 2012
I'm guessing sometime around s2. Since there was mention of Ned's reaction to Robert's weight gain and the Renly / Loras scene.
March 13, 2012
december 2012
Sura Majeed february 2013
As much as we all want it finished. People seem to forget that each book took a long time before the entire series blew up to be the most famous in the world which inevitably made the man more busy. That’s not even discussing the input he had on the show which took even more time from an already time poor schedule because of the success. It’s going to be the biggest book of the entire series. It’s probably a mix of being time poor. The fact that that’s always how he has written. Wanting to get it right to the point where maybe he’s obsessive and also. Why would you deliver for fans that seem to do nothing but completely shit on you and put you under pressure. Nothing about that makes you think, wow I just can’t wait to Pour my blood sweat and tears into this product for people who do absolutely nothing but criticise me. For something I do voluntarily.
My fav author
Mine as well. He's great.
Im glad that last question came up. Thing is, I havent been doing what George suggested, and Im kind of at the point of no return. But I'm authoring my first novel and Im glad to hear that, just in general, George is claiming it's easy to get into the industry.
When that book come out, he never finished he need to hire a team to do so
Voice over works amazingly in the series “you“
We never see Storm’s End!
Would he talk so much about other stories if the main story, the story of his career is not finished ?
The world of Ice and Fire will not end with the Song of Ice and Fire. That's good to hear.
But after we'll have finished reading A song of Ice and Fire, we must understand why this is the most important (key) story of this world.
In it's history, Planetos had many defining moments. George must have focused on this story for a reason. Can't wait to find out!
Well, I think The Long Night(s) are the most pivotal moments in the story because they show whether or not humanity will be destroyed, which is kinda as big of stakes as you can have. And the series will definitely end with the second long night, and with a more permanent resolution than the first long night.
@@Luke-nn4pm Yes. But George wants to have his version of "the scouring of the shire". That will be after the fight against the others.
@@iulpo oh that will definitely be Cersei at Casterly Rock
So he thinks that voice overs are a sign that simethng does not work. I wonder what he thinks of the inside the episode of the show,where d&d explain what they wouldn't show.
@Atlas Rise his oppinon would be the same today I guess.
Anybody else love how my man's wearing suspenders with flame decals on them?
Caleb Sherwood Sure, he’s a real fashion plate!
Your MAN CANT EVEN FINISH A BOOK! You stupid NPC.You're talking about the SUSPENDERS THE WARDROBE LADY PUT ON HIM🤣. Just wow. Meanwhile He WILL NEVER wrap this up to even be satisfactory ! He's filled it up with bullshit pov and left his side characters AMD MAIN CHARCTERS DANGLING!!! he will never complete it and that's his goal ,he's a shifty bugger. He's a fraud. He's no Tolkien. Tolkien created languages,germ never did!
Tolkien finished books! Grrm can't!
Tolkien worked full time as a professor and had 5 kids! Grrm has NEither of those and NP CREDENTIALS!
GRRM WEASLED HIS WAY OUT OF THE VIETNAM WAR,
TOLKIEN WAS DRAFTED!
TOLKIEN WAS A GENIUS,A SCHOLAR AND CREATIVE PERSON,GRRM IS A NERD! GRRM IS DERIVATIVE (I BET YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT WORD MEANS,DO YOU?,🤣....🙄😑😐)
GRRM IS A HACK! a failed SciFi author!
I'm so sick of you ppl participating in this mass delusion, funneling money to a loser who has such a huge ego, no empathy,and HE WILL NEVER EVER DELIVER!
He's a fucking parasite. Even the shows creators and actors are cursed by George RR Martin!
And I'm the first the coin this, right here right now- too! Just watch, the actors and all involved will be haunted by this show and the blow back ... You sick, sycophants are making it worse, when the true loser here is George. He's only famous cause of the show, can't you even remember that far back?!?
You're so pathetic.
@@malirabbit6228 Your MAN CANT EVEN FINISH A BOOK! You stupid NPC.You're talking about the SUSPENDERS THE WARDROBE LADY PUT ON HIM🤣. Just wow. Meanwhile He WILL NEVER wrap this up to even be satisfactory ! He's filled it up with bullshit pov and left his side characters AMD MAIN CHARCTERS DANGLING!!! he will never complete it and that's his goal ,he's a shifty bugger. He's a fraud. He's no Tolkien. Tolkien created languages,germ never did!
Tolkien finished books! Grrm can't!
Tolkien worked full time as a professor and had 5 kids! Grrm has NEither of those and NP CREDENTIALS!
GRRM WEASLED HIS WAY OUT OF THE VIETNAM WAR,
TOLKIEN WAS DRAFTED!
TOLKIEN WAS A GENIUS,A SCHOLAR AND CREATIVE PERSON,GRRM IS A NERD! GRRM IS DERIVATIVE (I BET YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT WORD MEANS,DO YOU?,🤣....🙄😑😐)
GRRM IS A HACK! a failed SciFi author!
I'm so sick of you ppl participating in this mass delusion, funneling money to a loser who has such a huge ego, no empathy,and HE WILL NEVER EVER DELIVER!
He's a fucking parasite. Even the shows creators and actors are cursed by George RR Martin!
And I'm the first the coin this, right here right now- too! Just watch, the actors and all involved will be haunted by this show and the blow back ... You sick, sycophants are making it worse, when the true loser here is George. He's only famous cause of the show, can't you even remember that far back?!?
You're so pathetic.
does grrm still do these interveiws and if he does how do I go to one?
They're in book conventions and stuff. He was supposed to go to one in New Zealand this summer but it got cancelled because of the epidemic.
@@Carlos-ln8fd This is a pandemic, not an epidemic.
@@jakehopkins6989 The terms do not contradict each other. "Pandemic" refers to the global spread of a contagious disease while "epidemic" references outbreaks of any size.
Hi, 2021 here. Still no WoW. Noticed he said " IF I finish ".
Please have something take place in Asshai!
I’m 19 years old and the winds of winter will probably only be released when I’m 190
The dracarys pattern on his trouser braces/suspenders.
Sothoryos please
@Subtlety is a virtue”👏👏👏
So lucky I’m only on the first book still , hopefully it’ll read wow by the time I finished the rest !!!
This was some dirty clickbait. He didn't reveal any new locations!
Oh well, I just love this content I can't stay mad at you
"IF"!?!?!?!
For the rest of time our future generations will feel sympathy 2 us that we had to wait 15 years for twow
Take us to the far East, Asshai and Yi Ti would be amazing to wr
write about.
The hints that Renly is gay are not that subtle. He tells Stannis that Margaery came to his bed a maiden to which Stannis replied that in his bed she would remain a maiden. Loras, who is eager to be a kingsguard, gets sad and defensive when Sansa mentions Renly and is particularly hateful towards Brienne and later Stannis whom he believes at certain points, to have killed Renly. Jaime pretty much mentions to Loras that he believes Loras and Renly had sex. Margaery claims to be a virgin when she is married to Tommen and a lot of people don't seem to find that too surprising. This is just off the top of my head. I mean some of these are subtle but Stannis and Jaime are pretty explicit. It seems that in Westeros homosexuality is a bit of a taboo but also something that is thought about in a very different way than we do. It seems that Westerosi don't really have a word for homosexuality. They refer to men having sex with men or being interested in men and to 'buggering' but they usually qualify the act or interest, rarely the person. I guess that combined with the fact that Renly and Loras are not that close to any pov characters makes these things easier to miss as well, especially if you are still trying to keep up with who this character is again.
Interesting that the term they use for it is a term for penetrating one's bunghole.
I didn’t pick up on it on my first reading but once I saw the show and upon re reading the books yes it’s obvious.
George has been out doing talks these days but i cant seen to find any new videos. :(
Be happy. He might be writing instead of talking.
@@FreakieFan Oh i know for a fact, from his blog, that he is traveling & doing talks. just that there are no videos of them on internet. i found a few quotes from the talks on twitter but would be great to have a video.
@@FreakieFan wow too little too late! He will never wrap this up to even be satisfactory ! He's filled it up with bullshit pov and left his side characters AMD MAIN CHARCTERS DANGLING!!! he will never complete it and that's his goal ,he's a shifty bugger. He's a fraud. He's no Tolkien. Tolkien created languages,germ never did!
Tolkien finished books! Grrm can't!
Tolkien worked full time as a professor and had 5 kids! Grrm has NEither of those and NP CREDENTIALS!
GRRM WEASLED HIS WAY OUT OF THE VIETNAM WAR,
TOLKIEN WAS DRAFTED!
TOLKIEN WAS A GENIUS,A SCHOLAR AND CREATIVE PERSON,GRRM IS A NERD! GRRM IS DERIVATIVE (I BET YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT WORD MEANS,DO YOU?,🤣....🙄😑😐)
GRRM IS A HACK! a failed SciFi author!
I'm so sick of you ppl participating in this mass delusion, funneling money to a loser who has such a huge ego, no empathy,and HE WILL NEVER EVER DELIVER!
He's a fucking parasite. Even the shows creators and actors are cursed by George RR Martin!
And I'm the first the coin this, right here right now- too! Just watch, the actors and all involved will be haunted by this show and the blow back ... You sick, sycophants are making it worse, when the true loser here is George. He's only famous cause of the show, can't you even remember that far back?!?
You're so pathetic.
Winds of Winter will come out to the public when Renly decides to come out to the 7 kingdoms... oh wait...
I’d love some short stories
4:36 so like when bran discovers cersei and jaime going at it?
That completely different. The readers seeing jaime and Cersei’s sex scene through brans POV advanced the plot forward and thickened it because now we’re wondering “is bran gonna survive his fall, what does this mean for the queen and her children, what does this mean for the starks and the lannisters” where as loras and Renlys relationship doesn’t reall do all that much for the plot so it would be kinda lame if someone just walked in on them and was like “oh these two guys are gay”. It wouldn’t have nearly the same impact as bran seeing Jaime and Cersei go at it
@@Tr3ysean if george really cared though he could have put elaborate effort into making it known they're in a relationship, like how bran saw jaime and cersei, but it's just kind of in the background of the books and doesn't get mentioned at all and that's the only same-sex relationship in all the books. the amount of hetero sex in the books is ridiculous and george is making up that excuse to cover the fact he didn't want to touch same-sex relationships, so yeah.
Before I watched Game of Thrones, I had suspicions that Renly was gay. Rainbow Guard, Knight of Flowers is his bff. He doesn't see advances from a woman who is so obviously in love with him. Then Loras tells Renly Stanis has the personality of a lobster.
Thanks for paraphrasing bullshit from the shit books that means fuck all and MATTERS NOTHING ....SINCE ALL THOSE FAMILIES DIE from bullshit Nonsensical DOG tactics ... It's so unfounded and so unexplained, it's piss poor writing with no tension.
It's all FILLER. FILLER. FILLER. NO CONSEQUENCES.
Like I said the show made the narrative. The music, COSTUMES, LIGHTING, MAKEUP, budget, direction etc but it still made NO SENSE. George's story after book three lost the plot and sucked since then,he turned into a soap opera , to be edgy I guess, but it was the biggest mistake of his fucking life ... 😂. He will never finish this story now and he never intended to! He has had a team of people who help him for 10 years, and even still, he can't finish it! 😂🤣 Pathetic!
@@doxasophosmoros Jeez, who pissed in your coffee?
Ehhh, the thing about the rainbow, may be a meta reference. But when you take this from the Wiki of Ice and Fire:
The rainbow connects the organization to the Faith of the Seven, for which the rainbow is a religious symbol.
That being a reference to that flag begins to sound less likely.
G R R martin is rolling in hbo money, winds of winter will be done in 2077
That's a very unfair accusation. The dude writes like crazy. About 12 chapters of Winds are out online if you want to read them and by 2015 he said 400 pages were done. He clearly is writing and the reason it's taking so long is because the book is huge (at least 1500 pages) and he wants it to be good.
@@Carlos-ln8fd How many would you guess are now done five years after that? Double that, maybe? Bit more? Bit less?
@@thecatfather857 a year ago he said the book was coming out this summer and because of the quarantine he said he's writing non-stop. my guess is that he's in the last third.
Carlos I don’t remember him giving a release window, but I do remember that other part.
@@thecatfather857 he said if the book wasn't finished by the beginning of Worldcon in New Zealand people had the right to imprison him. The con has been cancelled of course, but according to his updates it seems like the book is still very much unfinished.
Good👍🔥👍🔥
Why not essos?
Notice he said if I finish these books. Bad news book fans probably isn't going to happen.
I'm about to wrap up the first book & i want more info on the shadowlands asshai sounds too interesting to not know enough about lol
Hahahahahahaha oh boy...