If you invested like Charlie Munger in 2003, this would have happened...

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  • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
    @NathanWinklepleckCFA  Рік тому +14

    Thanks to everyone for your support of my channel! If you have any ideas for future content, let me know in the comments down below. Patreon supporters, here's the full list of 109 stocks: www.patreon.com/posts/mungers-magic-18-95130403

    • @boxers41
      @boxers41 Рік тому +1

      Got a question about how you get the stocks that have an roic >18%. Where do i go to find those stocks. There really isnt a stock screener for roic that ive seen... any suggestions on how i can find these roic >18% stocks myself every month?

    • @msftman1
      @msftman1 Рік тому

      Hi, Nathan , it would have been interesting to break the high ROIC group in half by Price-to-Book and see if those high quality groups would have performed differently based on starting valuation.

    • @a.carnevale4910
      @a.carnevale4910 10 місяців тому

      Guess Bloomberg

    • @szabolcsgyongyosi3580
      @szabolcsgyongyosi3580 10 місяців тому

      Great analytical video, thank you for posting it!!

    • @IronDavid25
      @IronDavid25 2 місяці тому

      Do you have a new list for 2024?

  • @Ericbabacan
    @Ericbabacan 7 місяців тому +349

    What I don’t understand is, on one hand we are told the stock market will crash and yet on the other we are told ways of investing in the stock market. Oxymoron or paradox? I'm considering investing over 150k, but I'm uncertain about risk mitigation strategies.

    • @A-krandy
      @A-krandy 7 місяців тому +3

      For the average person, the strategies are fairly demanding. In actuality, most professionals who have the necessary abilities and knowledge to complete such occupations do so successfully.

    • @GabrielZi-xr6zc
      @GabrielZi-xr6zc 7 місяців тому +2

      If you do decide to make new purchases, have an exit strategy ready. Consider taking partial profits quickly to lock in some gains. I've been in regular contact with a financial analyst since covid. Investing in popular stocks is now quite straightforward; the issue is determining when to buy and sell. My advisor makes investment and exit decisions for my account, which has risen to more than $500K in less than a year.

    • @HilaryPhan
      @HilaryPhan 7 місяців тому +2

      please who is the consultant that assist you with your investment and if you don't mind, how do I get in touch with them?

    • @GabrielZi-xr6zc
      @GabrielZi-xr6zc 7 місяців тому +2

      Her name is. 'Marisa breton Dollard’. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence t0 set up an appointment.

    • @HilaryPhan
      @HilaryPhan 7 місяців тому +2

      I just curiously searched her up, and I have sent her an email. I hope she gets back to me soon. Thank you

  • @victoriaabott
    @victoriaabott 7 місяців тому +284

    I feel investors should be focusing on under-the-radar stocks, and considering the current rollercoaster nature of the stock market, Because 35% of my $270k portfolio comprises of plummeting stocks which were once revered and i don't know where to go here out of devastation.

    • @kurtKking
      @kurtKking 7 місяців тому +2

      Safest approach i feel to tackle it is to diversify investments. By spreading investments across different asset classes, like bonds, real estate, and international stocks, they can reduce the impact of a market meltdown. its important to seek the guidance of an expert.

    • @MickyGlover
      @MickyGlover 7 місяців тому +1

      A lot of folks downplay the role of advlsors until being burnt by their own emotions. I remember couple summers back, after my lengthy divorce, I needed a good boost to help my business stay afloat, hence I researched for licensed advisors and came across someone of utmost qualifications. She's helped grow my reserve notwithstanding inflation, from $275k to $850K.

    • @AmithKaury
      @AmithKaury 7 місяців тому +1

      This is definitely considerable! think you could suggest any professional/advisors i can get on the phone with? I'm in dire need of proper portfolio allocation.

    • @MickyGlover
      @MickyGlover 7 місяців тому +1

      I just looked her up on the internet and found her webpage with her credentials. I wrote her a outlining my financial objectives and planned a call with her

    • @AmithKaury
      @AmithKaury 7 місяців тому

      I just looked her up on the internet and found her webpage with her credentials. I wrote her a outlining my financial objectives and planned a call with her

  • @Greggsberdard
    @Greggsberdard 5 місяців тому +299

    I recently read an article about a man who identified AI stocks before the AI boom, highlighting the importance of information and insight. I believe AI is poised to enter a new phase, and I aim to position my $200k portfolio to capitalize on significant gains.

    • @lolitashaniel2342
      @lolitashaniel2342 5 місяців тому

      Absolutely crucial in the stock market: information, insight, and predictability. As an early investor in NVDA, ANSS, and LRCX, my advisor's guidance was invaluable.

    • @crystalcassandra5597
      @crystalcassandra5597 5 місяців тому

      People often underestimate financial advisors' importance. Over 50 years of data reveal that those who work with advisors typically earn more than those who go it alone. I've been fortunate to work with one for 13 years, resulting in a $1 million portfolio, largely from early investments in AI and other growth stocks.

    • @grego6278
      @grego6278 5 місяців тому

      Could you recommend your advisor? I'd appreciate some help.

    • @crystalcassandra5597
      @crystalcassandra5597 5 місяців тому

      There are a handful of experts in the field. I've experimented with a few over the past years, but I've stuck with ‘’Sharon Marissa Wolfe’’ for about five years now, and her performance has been consistently impressive. She’s quite known in her field, look-her up.

    • @BateserJoanne
      @BateserJoanne 5 місяців тому

      I just looked her up on the web and I would say she really has an impressive background in investing. I will write her an email shortly.

  • @DanielPanuzi
    @DanielPanuzi 9 місяців тому +742

    Stock analysis is more than reading quarterly reports. Learnt this from reading Peter Lynch's book. Nonetheless,I believe there are people who do this for a living, and I just delegate the task to these professionals. That's how to stay afloat in the market.

    • @ericmendels
      @ericmendels 9 місяців тому +6

      There are a lot of ways to achieve your goals but such strategies can only be carried out by market experts not a random UA-camr.

    • @Higuannn
      @Higuannn 9 місяців тому +1

      I stopped listening to these UA-camrs, because at the end of the day, I end up with a bunch of confusing stocks, In reality, all I needed was professional help to take advantage and make over $239,000 in profits.

    • @hullbruce
      @hullbruce 9 місяців тому +1

      I stopped listening to these UA-camrs, because at the end of the day, I end up with a bunch of confusing stocks, In reality, all I needed was professional help to take advantage and make over $239,000 in profits.

    • @hullbruce
      @hullbruce 9 місяців тому +5

      @@ericmendels Personally, I would say engage professional guidance. Not sure where you get an experienced one, but if your knowledge of the market is limited, it seems like a good bet.

    • @DanielPanuzi
      @DanielPanuzi 9 місяців тому +5

      @@hullbruce I haven't written such a comment before, but can you recommend a trusted fellow i can reach out to? I think that is the right thing to do

  • @tonysilke
    @tonysilke 9 місяців тому +321

    I really saw the potential of the stock market by reading Berkshire's annual letters. I recently sold my $674k apartment in the Bel Air area and I'm hoping to throw it into the stock market. I just don't want to lose everything.

    • @Nernst96
      @Nernst96 9 місяців тому +2

      Most people either do not understand the power of compound interest, or are just impatient. For the average Joe, however, I think it is just best to invest in the S&P 500, and just wait, which is reliable, albeit extremely long- lots of years. Or just use a professional analyst and speed up wealth creation. Most people underestimate the power of the latter.

    • @PatrickLloyd-
      @PatrickLloyd- 9 місяців тому +1

      I agree with you. I started out with investing on my own, but I lost a lot of money. I was able to pull out about $200k after the 2020 crash. I invested the money using an analyst, and in seven months, I raked in almost $673,000

    • @PhilipDunk
      @PhilipDunk 9 місяців тому +1

      I'm actually interested in this idea of investing through an analyst. Sounds like the most sensible thing to do in the market right now. Could you give me a pointer to who you work with, please?

    • @PatrickLloyd-
      @PatrickLloyd- 9 місяців тому +1

      'Melissa Rose Francks' is the licensed advisor I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.

    • @PhilipDunk
      @PhilipDunk 9 місяців тому +1

      I just looked her up on the web and I would say she really has an impressive background in investing. I will write her an email shortly.

  • @PASCALDAB
    @PASCALDAB 9 місяців тому +211

    Munger and Buffett have both achieved an incredible feat with Berkshire. They've turned thousands to billions, and have made a lot of people wealthy in the process. I really saw the potential of the stock market by reading Berkshire's annual letters. I recently sold my $674k apartment in the Bel Air area and I'm hoping to throw it into the stock market. I just don't want to lose everything.

    • @mikey43221
      @mikey43221 9 місяців тому +1

      I agree with you. I started out with investing on my own, but I lost a lot of money. I was able to pull out about $200k after the 2020 crash. I invested the money using an analyst, and in seven months, I raked in almost $673,000

    • @mikey43221
      @mikey43221 9 місяців тому

      “Vivian Carol Gioia’’ You can easily look her up, she has years of financiaI market experience.

  • @MarthaMadison-
    @MarthaMadison- 7 місяців тому +36

    The problem we have is because Most people always taught that " you only need a good job to become rich. These billionaires are operating on a whole other playbook that many don't even know exists.

    • @EvelynGrace-gs3ze
      @EvelynGrace-gs3ze 7 місяців тому

      Money invested is far better than
      money saved, when you invest it gives
      you the opportunity to increase your
      financial worth.

    • @IsabellaJulialove
      @IsabellaJulialove 7 місяців тому

      The wisest thing that should be on
      everyone mind currently should be to
      invest in different streams of income
      that doesn't depend on government
      paycheck, especially with the current
      economic crisis around the world. This is still a time to invest in Stocks, Forex and Digital currencies.

    • @NotleyAlison
      @NotleyAlison 7 місяців тому

      Even with the right technique and
      assets some investors would still make more than others. As an investor, you should've known that by now that nothing beats experience and that's final. Personally I had to reach out to a stock expert for guidance which is how I was able to grow my account close to $35k, withdraw my profit right before the correction and now I'm buying again.

    • @RogerTerry01
      @RogerTerry01 7 місяців тому

      Trading under the guidance of an expert is the best strategy for beginners.

    • @RobertoMorr
      @RobertoMorr 7 місяців тому

      @@RogerTerry01 Please who is the expert guiding you? I have lost so much as a beginner investing into stock without a proper guidance.

  • @benitabussell5053
    @benitabussell5053 9 місяців тому +293

    Taking early notes from Warren as to the importance of sound asset diversification and risk management It can’t be overstated. I’ve been trying to grow my portfolio of $300K for sometime now, I would greatly appreciate any other suggestions.

    • @BenTodd-fl8nv
      @BenTodd-fl8nv 9 місяців тому +3

      Well the bigger the risk, the bigger the reward and such impeccable decisions are better guided by professionals

    • @Debbie.Burton
      @Debbie.Burton 9 місяців тому +2

      Yes true, I have been in touch with a financial advisor. With an initial starting reserve of $80k, my advisor chooses the entry and exit commands for my portfolio, which has grown to approximately $550k.

    • @HarrisRyan-oy8eo
      @HarrisRyan-oy8eo 9 місяців тому +2

      I've been considering hiring an advisor for a long. Could you please direct me to your advisor?

    • @Debbie.Burton
      @Debbie.Burton 9 місяців тому +1

      *Natalie Marie Gentry* is the licensed advisor I use. Just search the name. You’d find necessary details to work with to set up an appointment.

    • @judynewsom1902
      @judynewsom1902 9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for sharing, I just looked her up on the web and I would say she really has an impressive background in investing. I will write her an e-mail shortly.

  • @EthanBrown_23
    @EthanBrown_23 6 місяців тому +512

    Great Video. I just sold a property in Portland and I'm thinking to put the cash in stocks, I know everyone is saying its ripe enough, but Is this a good time to buy stocks? How long until a full recovery? How are other people in the same market raking in over $450k gains within months, I'm really just confused at this point.

  • @chris-pj7rk
    @chris-pj7rk 8 місяців тому +377

    Every week I buy more of whatever is the lowest percentage of my portfolio and try to keep everything around 10%. Please what could be my safest buys with $400k to outperform the market in 2024?

    • @alexyoung3126
      @alexyoung3126 8 місяців тому +3

      I would avoid the index funds, mutual funds, or specific stocks for the time being. The 5% fixed incomes are the safest bet for now. Save your cash for when the market actually shows sign of recovery.

    • @jameswood9772
      @jameswood9772 8 місяців тому +1

      This is why I've entrusted a fiduciary with my investmnt decisions. Many underestimate advisors until emotions lead to losses. My advisor crafted a tailored strategy aligning with my long-term goals, guiding entry and exit points for the equities I focus on. This has grown my portfolio to over $850k. My personal best so far

    • @austingraff1881
      @austingraff1881 8 місяців тому +2

      How can I participate in this? I sincerely aspire to establish a secure financial future and am eager to participate. Who is the driving force behind your success?.

    • @jameswood9772
      @jameswood9772 8 місяців тому +4

      ‘Lisa Angelique Abel’ is the licensed advisor I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.

    • @austingraff1881
      @austingraff1881 8 місяців тому +2

      She appears to be well-educated and well-read. I ran an online search on her name and came across her website; thank you for sharing

  • @JosephineGaule
    @JosephineGaule Рік тому +68

    My million dollar motto is invest early, invest often, stay invested.

    • @Tipberends
      @Tipberends Рік тому

      how do i do this? where do i start? i'm so confused

    • @JosephineGaule
      @JosephineGaule Рік тому +1

      Okay so i advise you start with stocks, buy a good cross section of an economy and you should do well over the long term. The market will be high in 10 to 20 years, and significantly higher in 30. It's almost impossible for a company with no debt to go bankrupt. Canada is about 3% of the global marketplace, U.S. is about 50%, remainder on the globe is 47%. Pay yourself first. It's time in the market, not timing the market. i stay untop of the market with my FA Emily Lois Parker. Bulls and bears make money, but pigs get slaughtered. - some wise words

    • @simonomilan
      @simonomilan Рік тому +1

      Thank you, this was definitely worth the read, as an Investors may avoid making decisions out of fear of regret. This can lead to inertia, where individuals hold onto cash rather than invest, fearing they will make a wrong decision.

    • @polreast
      @polreast Рік тому

      Geez, strong performance in 2023. Congrats! Kick down those Wall Street doors

    • @ericwilde4583
      @ericwilde4583 Рік тому

      Thanks for sharing, I just looked her up on the web because this is equally important to me, and I would say she really has an impressive background in investing. I will write her an e-mail shortly.

  • @brianwhitehawker1756
    @brianwhitehawker1756 11 місяців тому +247

    Stocks extended their year-to-date rally following the CPI report, with the S&P 500 last up 0.8% in afternoon trading. but I don't know if stocks will quickly rebound, continue to pull back or move sideways for a few weeks, or if conditions will rapidly deteriorate.I am under pressure to grow my reserve of $250k.

    • @Tonyham198
      @Tonyham198 11 місяців тому

      It's really hard to beat the market as a mere investor. It's just better if you invest with the help of a professional understands the market dynamics better.

    • @yeslahykcim
      @yeslahykcim 11 місяців тому

      You have a very valid point, I started investing on my own and for a long time, the market was really ripping me off. I decided to hire a CFA, even though I was skeptical at first, and I beat the market by more than 9%. I thought it was a fluke until it happened two years in a row, and so I’ve been sticking to investing via an analyst.

    • @Jadechurch-ql3do
      @Jadechurch-ql3do 11 місяців тому

      Please can you leave the info of your lnvestment advsor here? I’m in dire need for one

    • @yeslahykcim
      @yeslahykcim 11 місяців тому

      “Leila Simoes Pinto’’ You can easily look her up, she has years of financiaI market experience.

    • @codeblue11
      @codeblue11 11 місяців тому

      Thank you for this Pointer. It was easy to find your handler, She seems very proficient and flexible. I booked a call session with her.

  • @DorathyJoy
    @DorathyJoy 9 місяців тому +519

    I'd love to invest in stocks after listening to a guy on a podcast talk about the importance of investing and how he made over $300k in few months of investing into stocks from $175k initial capital, somehow this video has helped shed light on some things but I'm confused about the current market volatility I'm new to this and I'm open to ideas.

    • @nicolasbenson009
      @nicolasbenson009 9 місяців тому +9

      That's right, I started investing sometime in 2019 and by early 2019 I pulled a profit of over $800k with no prior investing knowledge or skill I was basically just following the guidelines set by my financial advisor, despite the current market volatility I return at least $75k every month so you don't necessarily need to be a perfect investor or do the hard works, just have an advisor to guide you.

    • @SandraDave.
      @SandraDave. 9 місяців тому +8

      Interesting! been looking to switch to an advisor for a while now but the fear of losing funds held me back, please any help pointing me to who your advisor is and how to reach them?

    • @nicolasbenson009
      @nicolasbenson009 9 місяців тому +7

      Well, there are a few out there who know what they are doing. I tried a few in the past years, but I’ve been with Melissa Terri Swayne for the last five years or so, and her returns have been pretty much amazing.

    • @CraigLloyd-fz6ns
      @CraigLloyd-fz6ns 9 місяців тому

      Thanks for this amazing tips, I found her webpage and booked a call session with her, she seems proficient.

    • @darnellcapriccioso
      @darnellcapriccioso 9 місяців тому +6

      I just googled her name and I'm really impressed with her credentials; I reached out to her since I need all the assistance I can get. I just scheduled a call.

  • @EmilianoLeonardo1
    @EmilianoLeonardo1 11 місяців тому +195

    I'm under pressure to grow my reserve that currently holds about $500k. I'm down by 20% already following the crash and I fear I could lose more.

    • @josephhughes9583
      @josephhughes9583 11 місяців тому

      It is very easy to buy in on trending stocks but the problem is knowing when to sell or hold, which is why a coach is important. I've been in touch with one for about a year now and although I was initially skeptical about it, I will say l've made more progress within a year generating 6figure profit.

    • @josephhughes9583
      @josephhughes9583 11 місяців тому

      She's 'Olivia Maria Lucas' The best I've seen so far. Simply do your diligence.

    • @jimbob9725
      @jimbob9725 11 місяців тому +4

      Replies to this post are a scripted promotion for a financial advisor.

    • @meibing4912
      @meibing4912 11 місяців тому +3

      Beware scammers are active here...

  • @beancount811
    @beancount811 Рік тому +11

    Love your backtests, Nathan. Early season's greetings to you and family!🌲

  • @InformationEngineer59
    @InformationEngineer59 11 місяців тому +4

    My greatest question is, how does one get the data to do the ROIC calculation?

  • @Stick2011
    @Stick2011 Рік тому +23

    Great video. Did you consider testing selling stocks every year that fell below 18% ROIC and purchasing new ones that were > 18% ROIC?

  • @makingmusicfun
    @makingmusicfun Рік тому +6

    Awesome video! It was nice confirmation that I'm headed in the right direction. Now I just have to do the hardest part... nothing.

  • @joentell
    @joentell Рік тому +1

    Thanks for supporting the camera community. Very generous of you. Subscribed

  • @greyhunter9287
    @greyhunter9287 Рік тому +5

    Great info! Enjoying the backtesting of these strategies and appreciate the work you put into it. As a dividend investor I would love to see a backrest on the Chowder Rule vs a back test of the Chowder Rule and the Munger’s ROIC strategy. Have a great holidays

    • @glendavis1266
      @glendavis1266 Рік тому

      What is that strategy?

    • @jadam42
      @jadam42 11 місяців тому

      The back testing here is flawed. It’s over a not very significant time horizon and also one where interest rates were at historical lows. Not to mention during just the front half of COVID with a huge stimulus injection. The odds that we see a similar economic climate in the next 20 years as we saw in the last 20 is pretty unlikely.

  • @awalton9024
    @awalton9024 Рік тому +33

    Peter Lynch also pointed out, many times, the correlation between positive stock price performance and increasing earnings. He also mentioned in his dry way that it is difficult for a company with no debt to go bankrupt.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  Рік тому +11

      100% love Peter Lynch! He’s not that dry though.. that or I like dry people 😅

    • @Fzp450
      @Fzp450 Рік тому +4

      Could you do the same backtest but this time for stocks with positive net debt vs negative net debt?

  • @sryavuz
    @sryavuz Рік тому +1

    That is really good analysis.
    What I love about your channel is; when you are backtesting, you do not backtest from the results hindsight.
    You consider the analysis as of your backtest start date and give the results. That is much more convenient because we will invest with the data we have now, not with data of 10-20 years later.
    Today, it is easy to say if you have invested X amount on Amazon or Apple on 2000 you would've made Y. But what people don't consider is they would not have guessed that performance at 2000. When we check what happened to the high performers of 1980-2000 (probably IBM, Microsoft, Coca Cola, etc.), some of those companies brought below SP-500 as you've shown.

  • @austinbrown7574
    @austinbrown7574 Рік тому +3

    The 18% growth rate assumes the company in question can reinvest 100% of the capital they generate each year into the company, meaning their revenue growth rate should equal their ROIC over time. This is where the problem comes in, because while ROIC tends to be sticky, meaning a company that has a high ROIC in one year is likely to maintain that high ROIC in future years, the same is absolutely NOT true for revenue growth rate. It tends to strongly mean revert over time. That's where valuation becomes ALOT more important, because when they can't reinvest 100% of their capital, they start returning it to shareholders, and the rate of return to shareholders will be highly influenced by the earnings multiple.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  Рік тому

      100% this!

    • @charlesbyrneShowComments4all
      @charlesbyrneShowComments4all 9 місяців тому

      Isn't this further complicated because of the Biden Inflation Act? Companies that do stock buybacks now have to pay a 1% excise on the stock price when purchased. Since most of these companies have a higher PE ratio there is some overvaluation which will revert to the mean, but in most cases it will be overvalued from speculative investors and fund which tend to hold these companies. Biden also wants to raise the stock buyback excise tax to 5% which would mean companies would probably seek other strategies for tax mitigation.

  • @abdullaalmannaei8641
    @abdullaalmannaei8641 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for that clear clarification,

  • @bobwright8000
    @bobwright8000 Рік тому +1

    Very informative video. Thanks Nathan.

  • @Adrian49931
    @Adrian49931 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for you effort of this great analysis!
    You have a new subscriber!

  • @cj2695
    @cj2695 Рік тому +1

    From one charterholder to another...great content! Wondering if the low ROIC screen is somehow pulling in serial acquirers/rollups that my show up with low returns on capital b/c of the high levels of intangible assets....

  • @antonioalvespereira5393
    @antonioalvespereira5393 11 місяців тому

    BTW, as a suggestion ( I am new subscriber) would be nice to have a video with just the list of the best positions ytd instead of a rank by market cap. Perhaps a couple of ranking, like the ones with average biggest ROC over last 10y, etc.

  • @samhu3855
    @samhu3855 Рік тому +2

    Nathan, when you perform back testing, how can you avoid survival bias? Asking differently, when you sort sp500 index, did you use the sp500 composition in 2003, instead of 2023?

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  Рік тому +1

      Yes, take a look at the list of stocks in 2003, which I show. It includes names that don’t currently exist 🙌

    • @samhu3855
      @samhu3855 Рік тому

      That is great. Thank you very much.

  • @kc7718
    @kc7718 Рік тому +11

    Losing Munger is a huge loss to Global Finance. Rest in Peace. He was a master of analyzing Opportunity cost

  • @moonlightnappeprs3108
    @moonlightnappeprs3108 Рік тому

    awesome video. Please give us an update on the coffee can portfolios. And please if you can finish the dividend tournament.

  • @arnarn663
    @arnarn663 11 місяців тому

    Absolutely amazing vid! Thx a lot

  • @jordanmungo917
    @jordanmungo917 11 місяців тому

    Fantastic video, gave me something new to go and research! Like someone else in the comments said, I'd be curous about the performance of a portfolio where this strategy was used to reweight the portfolio every 3-5 years

  • @TheTeaParty320
    @TheTeaParty320 8 місяців тому

    Hey, what software are you using to sketch your on screen notes?

  • @Riggsnic_co
    @Riggsnic_co 11 місяців тому +3

    Didn't Charlie Munger and Warren Buffett invent the strategy of buying/investing when the market is low and also buying/investing when the market is high? As Warren Buffet said, he has seen this happen many times in his life. Not an investor. My wife and i never earned more than a middle class salary. We plan to get retired at 58 with a stock portfolio worth $4M. We have never sold so much as one share of stock...

    • @martingiavarini
      @martingiavarini 11 місяців тому +3

      It really isn’t about how much you save, it’s about how you manage your money. Whether you work to earn income or invest, it still boils down to income vs expenses, so yeah you may look into financial advisors for a strategy that suits your timing....

    • @bob.weaver72
      @bob.weaver72 11 місяців тому +2

      i've been doing this same thing myself. Can't get into trouble with the IRS when I have no income and all my money is in stocks. I don't like doing the work though. Lol. So I just invest through an advisor who does the stock picking. My money grows, and I'm tax-free...

    • @TheJackCain-84
      @TheJackCain-84 11 місяців тому +2

      I’ve been down a ton, I’m only holding on so I can recoup, I really need help, who is this investment-adviser that guides you?

    • @bob.weaver72
      @bob.weaver72 11 місяців тому +2

      When ‘Carol Vivian Constable’ is trading, there's no nonsense and no excuses. She wins the trade and you win. Take the loss, I promise she'll take one with you.

    • @TheJackCain-84
      @TheJackCain-84 11 місяців тому +1

      She appears to be well-educated and well-read. I ran an online search on her name and came across her website; thank you for sharing.

  • @fepeerreview3150
    @fepeerreview3150 Рік тому +3

    Very interesting. So is there any advantage to selling and replacing stocks that may not maintain this high ROIC? Might it be done on an annual basis, such as the rebalancing that is done with the Dogs of the Dow? That would be a possible subject for a study and backtesting.

    • @TheCashFlowCompounder
      @TheCashFlowCompounder 11 місяців тому +3

      Would be interesting to test. I think that for your personal investment strategy you would have to ask yourself why this ROIC decreased and if it will go back up to normal levels or not before selling the position

  • @patriciapeever9560
    @patriciapeever9560 Рік тому +1

    THANKYOU I appreciate your excellent content

  • @garyperkinson8778
    @garyperkinson8778 Рік тому

    Interesting video that was very informative. Thank you for sharing!!

  • @unknownKnownunknowns
    @unknownKnownunknowns Рік тому +1

    Really interesting thank you. DO only 10 of the SPX have 18%+ ROIC, or did you only show the top ten ranked by ROIC ?

  • @DailyDrivenPorsche
    @DailyDrivenPorsche 9 місяців тому

    Great video. I recently found a micro cap stock that met this criteria. Kind of rare to find a micro. Surgepays. Looks promising

  • @AP-ib7rf
    @AP-ib7rf Рік тому +1

    Hey Winklepleck, good video. Which software/site did you use for your model computations? Thanks!

  • @hristolakov3563
    @hristolakov3563 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for all the studies and backtests you are providing to us for free. I really appreciate that.
    I am still struggling to find the buy button at particular prices for even such high quality businesses, even knowing that they are likely to perform better over very long periods of time.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  Рік тому +1

      You are very welcome for the content. I appreciate your support! It definitely can be hard to do that, but just take a look at Costco. It has regularly traded at 40 times earnings, yet has compounded money at nearly 18% over the very long term. if you look back at one study, they found that you could pay over 200 times for a company like L’Oreal. So it is possible possible to out perform with paying a high price, you just have to be extra sure that it can maintain those returns on over the long-term. Period

  • @evinvestfuture7440
    @evinvestfuture7440 11 місяців тому

    Great video, stellar work.

  • @sergiosc7534
    @sergiosc7534 10 місяців тому

    Great Video! Do you mind sharing what tool you use for performing the backtest?

  • @paulv7115
    @paulv7115 11 місяців тому

    Great video. How can a small investor do their own back-testing of this approach? Thank you so much.

  • @ericfernandez1895
    @ericfernandez1895 11 місяців тому

    Great video! And wonderful idea from Munger. Interesting to see the charts as the 18% ROIC stocks far out performed during the 2010s when capital was so cheap.
    What does that mean for today? What was the average multiple on the two buckets in 2003 would be my first question and has the market caught on to this and these 18% ROIC stocks are priced to reflect this now.
    Quick check shows appl at a 31 p/e now vs ~17 in 2010, an 80% increase. Still seems to fit within the initial example of return over a 40 yr period. Can big tech sustain such high rate on invested capital over the coming decades?

  • @ThePurpleSnork
    @ThePurpleSnork 11 місяців тому

    Thank you for the video! What site or screener do you use to find the high ROIC stocks?

  • @trappart9209
    @trappart9209 Рік тому

    Brilliant research. Thank you. It will definitely help me with my investing

  • @stevemuzira9155
    @stevemuzira9155 11 місяців тому

    Have you done a backtest where you refresh the list at the end of each year for ROIC>18% rather than stick to the 2003 list?

  • @zeshanfarooqui1
    @zeshanfarooqui1 Рік тому

    Interesting analysis. My biggest take away from the analysis low or high roic…you made a strong case for indexing.

  • @haraldalten2543
    @haraldalten2543 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for your great piece of work! However, each time the investor stands in front of the key question on how to select the right investment for your limited resources. So, should one only project KPIs (i.e ROIC) based on old financial reports,? I believe that's a bit too easy.

  • @donkemp8151
    @donkemp8151 10 місяців тому

    Excellent work.

  • @jaysonschmitt888
    @jaysonschmitt888 Рік тому

    What service do you use to calculate the returns of the portfolio

  • @themusic6808
    @themusic6808 Рік тому +2

    This is why I don’t mind paying a premium for an excellent business if it’s compounding at a rate higher than the market and you can expect it to continue doing so over the long term. Unless you’re waiting for some black swan event to temporarily dunk the market you should expect to pay a premium for a good company, it’s ROIC demands it and if the price keeps going up just let them split it while you hold. Too many people nowadays bargain hunting for stocks that trade cheap because they are cheap….always puzzled me why Berkshire has held such large positions in Bank of America, Coca Cola & Kraft Heinz for so long. At least Munger loved Costco which has compounded at a 16% CAGR over the last 20 years.

  • @gerhard-jx4rn
    @gerhard-jx4rn 7 місяців тому

    Good video thanks

  • @EurekaZhuJinxuan
    @EurekaZhuJinxuan Рік тому +3

    Shall we exclude bank stocks from this method? Banks usually have a higher ROIC but are analyzed differently. Shall we consider banks in a similar way with other stocks? 11:16

  • @nicholas5396
    @nicholas5396 11 місяців тому

    Just out of curiosity you said you used ROIC but on the graph against the s&p ranking system says ROCE? I know this is nuance but they are different metrics and just wondering which one you used.

  • @kenyoudoit7777
    @kenyoudoit7777 Рік тому

    its true we are in unpredictable times
    have to keep faith in fundamentals in your own valuation metrics and hopefully time will rationalize everything

  • @sarchmaster5779
    @sarchmaster5779 Рік тому +1

    Your list of 10 companies at the end constitute around 27% of the S&P 500 index, it sounds like the broad market consensus is correlated with Mr Munger's thinking.
    It would be interesting to see the ROIC figures for the top 50 companies in the S&P. We know 40 of them are not above 18, but how much below are they?

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  Рік тому +1

      That would be interesting… there are 109 stocks that have 18% or more ROIC, so roughly 20% of the index on an equal weighted basis. Market cap is clearly higher, as you’ve pointed out already.

  • @jeisonjaviervirguezcastane2058

    Hi everyone. Someone know where to find the ROIC historical data for US stocks to perform the backtesting?

  • @glendavis1266
    @glendavis1266 Рік тому

    Hello…….i have the same question….the determination of how to arrive on the “return on invested capital?” Interestingly my Schwab account has insufficient data analysis.

    • @TheCashFlowCompounder
      @TheCashFlowCompounder 11 місяців тому

      You can check on other pages such as alpha spread or full ratio

  • @Art-is-craft
    @Art-is-craft 9 місяців тому

    The trick is to find a unicorn that has a depressed price, good capital performance, good earnings and a return on asset performance. The pandemic and 2008 presented those opportunities. You cannot time the market but you can buy when the price is good.

  • @WiTuLoooo
    @WiTuLoooo Рік тому

    This is my #1 metric when performing analysis & diligence

    • @TheCashFlowCompounder
      @TheCashFlowCompounder 11 місяців тому

      Same here! That's what I mainly focus on when selecting stocks to analyze

  • @nvshinies664
    @nvshinies664 Рік тому

    Im trying to get my CFA level 1 and 2 out of the way. Is there a study resource you recommend?

  • @julianmora5469
    @julianmora5469 11 місяців тому

    Nice job, very interested portfolio

  • @SarJam07
    @SarJam07 Рік тому +1

    Based on your test BAC was a loser but it's the second largest holding in Berkshire Hathaway's portfolio. Any idea why they would hold on to it if it doesn't meet the 18% ROIC standard?

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  Рік тому +1

      Banks should really be measured on ROE basis because their capital structure is essentially backwards. Assets (loans) are most peoples’ liabilities. And their liabilities (deposits) are most peoples’ assets.

  • @dennismorris7573
    @dennismorris7573 Рік тому

    Very nice analysis.

  • @waynebenoit1776
    @waynebenoit1776 Рік тому

    I have seen ROIC with WACC subtracted for a more refined measure. What do you think of that approach?

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  Рік тому

      More complicated, but would be better if you can accurately estimate WACC.

  • @bobpeticolas121
    @bobpeticolas121 Рік тому

    I suspect you would have had even a better return if you had allocated position size by risk parity, as most institutional investors do. Re-balancing periodically also boosts returns.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  Рік тому

      Most institutions don’t allocate by risk parity, I’d say most don’t

  • @PlateletRichGel
    @PlateletRichGel 11 місяців тому

    i have had really good luck with a 50% mix of Large Cap Growth and small cap blend. I"ve done 16% return over 10 years, beating the S&P 500. Last year I made 30%, My funds were Russel 1000 growth, and Russel 2000 index funds. I challenge anyone to get as good a return over 10 years.

  • @likes-yv3lj
    @likes-yv3lj Рік тому

    So where do we find these stocks

  • @above7833
    @above7833 11 місяців тому +1

    Can u hear that sound ? The sound of investors exiting Berkshire Hathaway stock & buying Bitcoin !

  • @0815currywurst
    @0815currywurst 10 місяців тому

    Which Software did you use for the backtest?

  • @LearnToCompound
    @LearnToCompound 11 місяців тому

    The key to roic is knowing the future IRR whatever the ROIC is as a whole on the company actually means very little.

  • @metro1361
    @metro1361 Рік тому

    Nathan, Please do a video comparing the MSCI USA index & the S&P 500

  • @Robertgriffinne
    @Robertgriffinne 9 місяців тому +43

    As an lnvesting enthusiast, I often wonder how top level investors are able to become millionaires off investing. . I’ve been sitting on over $545K equity from a home sale and I’m not sure where to go from here, is it a good time to buy into stocks or do I wait for another opportunity?

    • @Patriciacraig599
      @Patriciacraig599 9 місяців тому

      It's best to seek an advisor right now, unless you're canny yourself. As a business owner in both the service industry and eBay reseller of all product categories, I can tell you we’re in a deep recession and everyone is running out of money.

    • @Christine-ce4xo
      @Christine-ce4xo 9 місяців тому +1

      I agree, that's the more reason I prefer my day to day invst decisions being guided by a invst-advisor, seeing that their entire skillset is built around going long and short at the same time both employing risk for its asymmetrical upside and laying off risk as a hedge against the inevitable downward turns, coupled with the exclusive information/analysis they have, it's near impossible to not out-perform, been using a invst-coach for over 2years+ and I've netted over $900K.

    • @Robertgriffinne
      @Robertgriffinne 9 місяців тому

      How can I participate in this? I sincerely aspire to establish a secure financial future and am eager to participate. Who is the driving force behind your success?

    • @Christine-ce4xo
      @Christine-ce4xo 9 місяців тому +3

      She goes by 'Linda Aretha Reeves ''. I choose to delegate my excesses to her because of her great expertise. I suggest you look her up. To be honest, almost didn't buy the idea of letting someone handle growing my finance, but so glad I did!!

    • @Robertgriffinne
      @Robertgriffinne 9 місяців тому

      Thank you for sharing, I must say, Linda appears to be quite knowledgeable. After coming across her web page, I went through her resume and it was quite impressive.

  • @joelbelmonte374
    @joelbelmonte374 Рік тому

    Great video. Is there an ETF that does this? Would be great

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  Рік тому

      Not this exact thing. There are wines that have ROE as part of the equation, but I’m not aware of any that use ROC

  • @PDS_37
    @PDS_37 11 місяців тому

    Super interesting video.

  • @flyingeagle1237
    @flyingeagle1237 Рік тому

    What website did you use to test your strategy?

  • @garypage9515
    @garypage9515 11 місяців тому

    This whole concept highlights the problem of corporations that buyback stock, rather than reinvest earnings in their business. Buying back stock does boost stock price, but only in the short term. It's good for corporate management that receives bonuses based on the present stock price, but bad for the long term investor.

  • @hansjuker8296
    @hansjuker8296 Рік тому

    But do we sell when the annual returns drop below 18%?

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  Рік тому

      It’s not returns, y’all. It’s return on invested capital of the business itself. Very different things

    • @hansjuker8296
      @hansjuker8296 11 місяців тому

      @@NathanWinklepleckCFA okay, just updated my notes. But still...how often is someone supposed to update this portfolio? If some of the stocks stop generating that lvl of ROIC, when do we dump it?

  • @Fred-yd9md
    @Fred-yd9md Рік тому

    Great content as always Nathan! Can you please make a video on what happens to ETF if the ETF issuer goes bankrupt? For example if Vanguard goes bankrupt then they need to liquidate all VOO and return the money to ETF holders. Now if vanguard tries liquidate few Billions worth of ETF in short period of time, then all underlying stocks will just tank in price . In that case ETF holders will receive pennies for dollars.
    Am I missing something?

  • @BironClark
    @BironClark 11 місяців тому

    Amazing video

  • @antonioalvespereira5393
    @antonioalvespereira5393 11 місяців тому

    I believe this exercise has a bias: as it starts in 2003. I wonder if same exercise starting at 01/01/1999 would deliver very different outcomes. As the S&P was “negative” for 13 years

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 9 місяців тому

      That would be at the very top of the market when you would have seen a long period of growth. That’s when you would seen a rally on good quality companies with 14 years of great growth. But that does not mean you cannot pick a good company in 1999. Berkshire from that 1999 peak to today would have grown at 9% per year in value which is almost 200% the level of S&P 500.

  • @Zitny135
    @Zitny135 Рік тому

    When we live forever, then it‘s works. By the way your Portfolio 2003 has shares of Wachovia bank, they shut down. What happened with your stocks?

  • @flmason
    @flmason Рік тому

    So what company(s) realistically are able to earn 18% per year... and compound that for 40 years?

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  Рік тому

      THAT is the real question, my friend. Costco, Constellation Software, and Berkshire Hathaway are the only ones that I know of. It would be interesting to see which companies have done it for 40 years and what their returns were.

  • @yupingsun40
    @yupingsun40 Рік тому

    Hi Nathan: You will have difficulty to maintain the list as some will produce less than 18% return next year. The list is dynamic...

  • @barryallen6927
    @barryallen6927 Рік тому

    Why are you allocating stock on equal weight basis and not on market cap weighted basis? Market cap weighted strategy is more efficient.

    • @NathanWinklepleckCFA
      @NathanWinklepleckCFA  Рік тому

      More efficient based on what?

    • @barryallen6927
      @barryallen6927 Рік тому

      @@NathanWinklepleckCFA 80% of S&P are laggards and dogs. By equal weighting laggards and dogs, the index will underperform in comparison to its market cap weighted counterpart. Market cap weighted lets the market work itself out, hence more efficient.

  • @vicgill1980
    @vicgill1980 Рік тому

    Thanks for this present 🎁

  • @booneguy
    @booneguy 9 місяців тому

    I was actually expecting a video where Charlie has elaborated it himself.

  • @RobotMowerTricks
    @RobotMowerTricks 11 місяців тому

    I know you're looking for coffee can investing strategies. But this is a really interesting idea for an investment manager or ETF. I would imagine if you weighted them by return and rebalanced annually you'd end up with even better returns. .
    Or hold the top 20, and only change out if a newcomer is in the top 10, to create less turnover.

  • @glennshoemake4200
    @glennshoemake4200 Рік тому +1

    Surprised to see AVGO is not on your list at the end. AVGO will be the big winner over the long run.

  • @romeogarbett4047
    @romeogarbett4047 Місяць тому

    Could yo do a video on the historical performance of leveraged ETFs like UPRO? The problem I have encountered when looking for data on these ETFs is that most videos or websites either work with hypothetical data or only go back to 2011. I am also interested in how a modified S&P 500 (e.g. only companies with ROIC > 18%) with 2x or even 3x leverage would perform.

  • @davidkoba
    @davidkoba Рік тому +1

    what you'll find is that you should have just invested in the index lol.

  • @jimjackson4256
    @jimjackson4256 7 місяців тому

    Yea finding a company

  • @RossiPopa
    @RossiPopa 11 місяців тому +4

    Well my formula for 2024 is simple. Hold cash and wait till the market re-levels so I can make new buys again. Or are there any ways I can avoid a crunch and maximize my savings of $550k? I know election years are positive for the stock market about 90% of the time.

    • @RichardMoore-jg5tl
      @RichardMoore-jg5tl 11 місяців тому +1

      Everyone needs a different stream of income , unfortunately having a job doesn't mean security due to the high rate of tax , one needs to move ahead their expectation, I would recommend refraining from investing in stocks for now. Instead, it would be prudent to consider retaining a portion of your assets in gold. Alternatively, seeking advice from a financial advisor could provide valuable guidance in this matter

    • @FusunTumsavas-cq7tp
      @FusunTumsavas-cq7tp 11 місяців тому +1

      I've remained in touch with a financial analyst since the start of my business. Amid today's dynamic market, the key difficulty is pinpointing the right time to buy or sell when dealing with trending stocks - a seemingly simple task but challenging in reality. My portfolio has grown by more than $600k within just a year, and I've entrusted my advisor with the task of determining entry and exit points.

    • @DanielPanuzi
      @DanielPanuzi 11 місяців тому

      in times like these, it's crucial to be cautious and not rush into the market , Who is this your FA , my portfolio needs urgent attention , been a lot of loss.

    • @FusunTumsavas-cq7tp
      @FusunTumsavas-cq7tp 11 місяців тому +1

      Christine Ann Podgorny is the licensed coach I use. Just research the name. You'd find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.

    • @DanielPanuzi
      @DanielPanuzi 11 місяців тому

      I appreciate it. After searching her name online and reviewing her credentials, I'm quite impressed. I've contacted her as I could use all the help I can get. A call has been scheduled.

  • @MarlowStardust
    @MarlowStardust Місяць тому

    What software are you using for this simulation?

  • @jonathank3054
    @jonathank3054 Рік тому

    shouldnt you grab stocks that fit your criteria from 2003, not 2023, and then back test?

  • @dimitristripakis7364
    @dimitristripakis7364 Рік тому

    The graph lines at 3:33 and on, should not be straight lines.