No armor, no camo, bad shell velocity, mediocre pen, no gun depression, arty-level gun dispersion on a tank that can't use vstab. Yeah, it's a real joy. Can't play passively and get good results, can't play aggressively because you are everyone's 1st target, so you're stuck hanging out with the 50B players in that awkward mid-range support role.
As soon as I saw "bad shell velocity" I understood you, sire, are a 2-key enjoyer and nothing else in life other than trying to hit all your shots on the move
My fav TD in the game, and my 10,660 damage record keeper for now. Bonded out with bond aiming, bond rammer, bond GLD + GLD directive... thing is a real menace at 0.2 dispersion and 1.22 aim time, it feels broken... but don't tell WG that 😛
I haven't played in a while with this tank because gun felt unreliable....started playing lately and had much better results....I've changed two things that work for me: 1. waiting to fully aim, 2. changed Bounty Coated Optics to Bounty Exhaust System and Innovative Targeting instead of Bounty Aiming..starting to see more of 5-8 combined dmg and even got an Ace today..love it now..Strv still my preferred Tier X TD
i hate it because it replaced my favorite td the waffentragor e 100 and i still mad i work my tail of to get it to have it take away after 90 days of have it
Sold mine years ago because it never seems to hit in the center of the reticle. Maybe I should buy it back and try it again now when there are field mods and better equipment.
IMO people hate the grille because the gun is unworldy derpy. It is supposed to be the most accurate gun in the game or one of em, but my heavies are more accurate than the grille.... at least thats how it feels most games. When the gun behaves it is really fun. One of only 2 tanks ive ever done 11k dmg in.
obv, heavies play a lot closer to enemies, try sniping in your heavy tank, and you will quickly realize that Grille has excellent gun, its just how this game is played, you will still miss even with laser guns just a lot less than with shit guns
Grille is a great tank, but mine has 650 alpha. Every session I play with it I MUST get a 562 roll at least once and hits over 750 are a rarity. Nevertheless, I love it and I have my damage record with it.
Id say i wasn't pissed cuz of the Grille 15 specifically, i was pissed cuz of what it replaced...also i thought of it as a natural progression of the TD line...get to the point of being able to have a fully traversable turret, just for them to give you that at tier 10....it's not a bad tank, it just isn't great either...i mean you guys saw it right in the video, its alpha is good, but not like a deathstars. I ended up selling mine and going back to the JPz E-100.
I'm fine with everything except for one thing with the Grille 15 I'd like it to have a smaller aim circle I don't think it will be even near broken with a little reduction
Could you please explain, what parameter it is that determines, how fully zoomed in a tank has to be to reach its official accuracy ? If on some tanks you don't have to fully zoom in and on other tanks you have to, then there must be parameter, that determines it.
I love Grille 15 but i tend to have bad luck. I stay in one side and theres nothing to shoot, i move carefully using the mobility but then a unspotted heavy appears and bye, i use a combination of the two playstiles and being more careful but nothing. It`s really hard to master a tank when you have patience issues
Grille's gun has a mind of its own. One game, you hit ALL your shots, next game the gun misses even the easiest target. This leads to many frustrating moments, which makes the grille unfun to play. (IMO) After 400 games in it, (60%W/R: im not saying its a bad tank!) i "downgraded" back to wt auf Pz 4...
Iove/hate this tank It is a casino on tracks that works half the time. It deserves it's old engine back, imo it's unplayable without a turbo. And when other TDs get 400 pen this things a joke. It should get 375 heat minimum. Not 334. 114 replaced my grille because it does everything better and doesn't die to HE spam
For me I hate this tank so much, the gun is not so accurate as they said, also has less pen in standard and premium ammo, 334 heat is way worst than 350 apcr wt IV has in the sniper gun. Plus this tank doesnt has camo, more camo has e4 or obj 268
Check WT auf Pz IV penetration loss. @500m WT has 295mm of pen: it is the APCR with the biggest penetration loss in the entire game. Why? Because it is german, surelly. At distance WT today is useless.
I sell this Grill (Sht) and buy again RHM with troll gun, best camo and good gun for Low tier. Just load gold sometimes, youre king. Grill cant hit front
it has less camo than some heavy tanks, arty is simply raping you, the turret is not fully rotatable, the platform the gun is on is super unstable, you can't even peak an elc even 90 without getting penned, you are tall as buildings, the turret and hull traverse dispersion is huge, the gold pen is the same as an m103 for example. yes, it is accurate when you fully aim, but it's just not a good tank overall. every now and then you get a good game when the stars are all aligned, but skill cap for making this work consistently is way too high. oh, and the tier IX tank is just better. it's just you can't make bonds with it. i can make e4, 268, and 103b work just fine, but this...son a b**ch! 😂😂. sorry for the rant.
This lie tank made me scream too much. Sold and since then I am the luckiest and happiest player in WOT. Do not pretend to play it any more again in my life. They're is no reason to maintain a toxic relationship right? Just acknowledge get rid of it and move on.
When ı got grille 15 and used it with standart equipments, it's shooted so bad even I wanted to sell. Then I start playing it with chocolate, bounty aiming and bounty gun laying drive , bro it becomes monster, now grille15 my favorite td and trust me , bounty aiming works well on this tank , try this build and you will love it
Grille 15 is a good and fun tank to play. With Bounty Aiming and Bounty Rotation Mechanism (some may choose gun laying drive) this tank can do many thing, both support and assault
It sucks so much, got it, played it about a month, its just crap. It is slow in reverse, has no armor and cannot really shift its turret forcing you to always offer enemies 50% of your non existent armor before you can take a shot yourself. Yeah the shots are super accurate, it slaps, but in most games after second round you are already dead since you are spotted SO easily and always have to show your weak tank armor in order to get a shot out. It simply cost so much money to maintain for so rare moments where Grille works .. I hate it. Sold it.
I left wot because of this tank..what is the usefulness of a tank that has a gun that can't hit???? Plus no camo,no super pen, slow shell velocity, can't put vstabs, no armor, gun dose more critical hits than any other tank in game, gun days 750 but actually it'a 630 alpha and sometimes dip to 562 alpha that thing never happens in jagedpanzer or FV guns..i bounce even 90 tracks with this tank for jesus sake, due to that myth of accurate gun that misses a lot you get closer and be enemy 1st target , arty will feast on you for days.. this TD needs a change either apcr shells with super speed or high pen heats.. or simply add camo to it.. or stock gun of tier 9 TD with higher dom and gun stats
Substitute turning device for the improved aiming and it will be even better. But unfortunately it is tier 10 so the games will be absolute shit as there are so many low wn8 players on your team who explode within the first minute. Avoid tier 10 and wot has some enjoyable moments.
Yea but your account is buffed by wg, and so is all of the greater wot streamers, otherwise you wouldnt play the game if you miss most shots or get rolled over in most games, us peasent we are just masochist and still love the game even when we get the shaft by wg
this is a trash td ... it need at least 360 rotate turret and 1.2k gun from Jagdpanzer E 100 ... otherwise trash ... precision might be reduced ... due to WOT system design each third shot goes anyway out of aiming circle ... Current form trash without armor/gun/camo ... Balanced version to addition of mention above it need at least 30% base camo ...
No matter where you aim it will hit the tracks, for no damage, half the time.
No armor, no camo, bad shell velocity, mediocre pen, no gun depression, arty-level gun dispersion on a tank that can't use vstab. Yeah, it's a real joy. Can't play passively and get good results, can't play aggressively because you are everyone's 1st target, so you're stuck hanging out with the 50B players in that awkward mid-range support role.
That describes the skorpion G too
Seems like a skill issue to me
@@mfg-music5875just from the description he gave of the grille, am 99% sure he is a good player
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As soon as I saw "bad shell velocity" I understood you, sire, are a 2-key enjoyer and nothing else in life other than trying to hit all your shots on the move
Because of Rashan bias... 2/3 of my shots go to a nother dimension.
My fav TD in the game, and my 10,660 damage record keeper for now. Bonded out with bond aiming, bond rammer, bond GLD + GLD directive... thing is a real menace at 0.2 dispersion and 1.22 aim time, it feels broken... but don't tell WG that 😛
Grille is one of those tanks that makes you think it has a high skill ceiling, but your "skill" is dependant on good rng
isnt that the case on all tanks? we are still talking about wot where rng decides almost everything.
@@Bloody7890all tank are dependant no question but grille has 1 thing it excels at making it extra annoying when you miss obvious shots.
I haven't played in a while with this tank because gun felt unreliable....started playing lately and had much better results....I've changed two things that work for me: 1. waiting to fully aim, 2. changed Bounty Coated Optics to Bounty Exhaust System and Innovative Targeting instead of Bounty Aiming..starting to see more of 5-8 combined dmg and even got an Ace today..love it now..Strv still my preferred Tier X TD
The only tier 10 that i ever 3 marked. Just because it was always exciting to play
Love/Hate relationship. Cant be played passively to have good result - surely pushed my player capabilities on new level when 3-marking it.
i hate it because it replaced my favorite td the waffentragor e 100 and i still mad i work my tail of to get it to have it take away after 90 days of have it
Sorry Dez, you definitely get CC rng.
Also, average dispersion is not the same as accuracy.
Like Skill4LTU says, don´t believe everything what is in "paper" 😎
because he cant understand that paper, numbers dont lie, people are just bad at understanding them
Sold mine years ago because it never seems to hit in the center of the reticle. Maybe I should buy it back and try it again now when there are field mods and better equipment.
IMO people hate the grille because the gun is unworldy derpy. It is supposed to be the most accurate gun in the game or one of em, but my heavies are more accurate than the grille.... at least thats how it feels most games. When the gun behaves it is really fun. One of only 2 tanks ive ever done 11k dmg in.
I trust the kv2 .52 dispersion to hit more often at 500m than the .25 grille does.
@@colterhikel9819 yep
obv, heavies play a lot closer to enemies, try sniping in your heavy tank, and you will quickly realize that Grille has excellent gun, its just how this game is played, you will still miss even with laser guns just a lot less than with shit guns
@@durachoks Nope. like the other guy said, my kv2 at range can be more accurate than the grille
@@hebrewhammer4086 yeah right, keep dreaming
0.18m accuracy
Shot: Directly on a track or no damage box
I dunno, is so strange how this tank make you fail a lot
Grille 15 is one of my favorites
I got the same set up on my Wt auf Pz. Bounty rammer and stage 3 turbo. Great tank.
The most disgusting thing I did with Grill was snipping cheiftain capola twice at 450m
My Grille is missing soo many shots... its ridicolous.. poor pen aswell for a Td. Just frustrating to play
i love it,...watching you play it
Grille is a great tank, but mine has 650 alpha. Every session I play with it I MUST get a 562 roll at least once and hits over 750 are a rarity.
Nevertheless, I love it and I have my damage record with it.
I wish grille had a 360 degree turret lol
Id say i wasn't pissed cuz of the Grille 15 specifically, i was pissed cuz of what it replaced...also i thought of it as a natural progression of the TD line...get to the point of being able to have a fully traversable turret, just for them to give you that at tier 10....it's not a bad tank, it just isn't great either...i mean you guys saw it right in the video, its alpha is good, but not like a deathstars. I ended up selling mine and going back to the JPz E-100.
I'm fine with everything except for one thing with the Grille 15
I'd like it to have a smaller aim circle
I don't think it will be even near broken with a little reduction
FYI, this tank has 360° turret on consoles now.
Could you please explain, what parameter it is that determines, how fully zoomed in a tank has to be to reach its official accuracy ? If on some tanks you don't have to fully zoom in and on other tanks you have to, then there must be parameter, that determines it.
G15 holding my dmg record with 10400dmg, in Asia server ❤
6k assist within 40seconds in Pershing.
That is my spoting record and it is really new. Just achived it last week
I love Grille 15 but i tend to have bad luck. I stay in one side and theres nothing to shoot, i move carefully using the mobility but then a unspotted heavy appears and bye, i use a combination of the two playstiles and being more careful but nothing. It`s really hard to master a tank when you have patience issues
I use bond final drive, 2nd tier experimental turbo and bond rammer on my Grille.. have 0.22 dispersion at 100m...
And yes, it's a fkin laser.
I just did this! It's a game changere now thanks for the tip!
i dont use food or purple equipment on it, so mine , miss some shoots. sometimes even more that actually hits.
This TD is fun, while the gun is trollish, it's really consistent.
Grille's gun has a mind of its own. One game, you hit ALL your shots, next game the gun misses even the easiest target. This leads to many frustrating moments, which makes the grille unfun to play. (IMO) After 400 games in it, (60%W/R: im not saying its a bad tank!) i "downgraded" back to wt auf Pz 4...
Grille is my favourite td in the game
My best TD in game as well. Top
I sold Grille 15 after more than 1k Battles!!!! Useless Tank.
Love grille i need to use my he after all
Iove/hate this tank
It is a casino on tracks that works half the time. It deserves it's old engine back, imo it's unplayable without a turbo. And when other TDs get 400 pen this things a joke. It should get 375 heat minimum. Not 334.
114 replaced my grille because it does everything better and doesn't die to HE spam
For me I hate this tank so much, the gun is not so accurate as they said, also has less pen in standard and premium ammo, 334 heat is way worst than 350 apcr wt IV has in the sniper gun. Plus this tank doesnt has camo, more camo has e4 or obj 268
Check WT auf Pz IV penetration loss. @500m WT has 295mm of pen: it is the APCR with the biggest penetration loss in the entire game. Why? Because it is german, surelly. At distance WT today is useless.
Just imagine...this was a successor to WT auf e 100...😢
I sell this Grill (Sht) and buy again RHM with troll gun, best camo and good gun for Low tier. Just load gold sometimes, youre king. Grill cant hit front
There is absolutely no fixing this TD. It's not just arguably worse, but demonstrably worse than the WT Pz 4 you play in order to unlock it.
Must be the paint job.
I just cant believe people still play this
you should try it out on console as it got a fully rotating turret now. like top see you play console if you can Dez :D
replace IAU by IRM, and it's godlike
it has less camo than some heavy tanks, arty is simply raping you, the turret is not fully rotatable, the platform the gun is on is super unstable, you can't even peak an elc even 90 without getting penned, you are tall as buildings, the turret and hull traverse dispersion is huge, the gold pen is the same as an m103 for example. yes, it is accurate when you fully aim, but it's just not a good tank overall. every now and then you get a good game when the stars are all aligned, but skill cap for making this work consistently is way too high. oh, and the tier IX tank is just better. it's just you can't make bonds with it. i can make e4, 268, and 103b work just fine, but this...son a b**ch! 😂😂. sorry for the rant.
Love ya, Dez. But I do not trust you in this case.
what is with the ugly camouflage did you lose a bet and you had to paint your grille 15 with crazy paint
This lie tank made me scream too much. Sold and since then I am the luckiest and happiest player in WOT. Do not pretend to play it any more again in my life. They're is no reason to maintain a toxic relationship right? Just acknowledge get rid of it and move on.
When ı got grille 15 and used it with standart equipments, it's shooted so bad even I wanted to sell. Then I start playing it with chocolate, bounty aiming and bounty gun laying drive , bro it becomes monster, now grille15 my favorite td and trust me , bounty aiming works well on this tank , try this build and you will love it
@mucahit8476 no thanks. Just spend and spend and spend more just to get frustrated.
@@MAD0G just try it you won't be regret
Grille 15 is a good and fun tank to play.
With Bounty Aiming and Bounty Rotation Mechanism (some may choose gun laying drive) this tank can do many thing, both support and assault
Ru serious whit your beautiful number ?
It sucks so much, got it, played it about a month, its just crap. It is slow in reverse, has no armor and cannot really shift its turret forcing you to always offer enemies 50% of your non existent armor before you can take a shot yourself. Yeah the shots are super accurate, it slaps, but in most games after second round you are already dead since you are spotted SO easily and always have to show your weak tank armor in order to get a shot out. It simply cost so much money to maintain for so rare moments where Grille works .. I hate it. Sold it.
I left wot because of this tank..what is the usefulness of a tank that has a gun that can't hit???? Plus no camo,no super pen, slow shell velocity, can't put vstabs, no armor, gun dose more critical hits than any other tank in game, gun days 750 but actually it'a 630 alpha and sometimes dip to 562 alpha that thing never happens in jagedpanzer or FV guns..i bounce even 90 tracks with this tank for jesus sake, due to that myth of accurate gun that misses a lot you get closer and be enemy 1st target , arty will feast on you for days.. this TD needs a change either apcr shells with super speed or high pen heats.. or simply add camo to it.. or stock gun of tier 9 TD with higher dom and gun stats
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Substitute turning device for the improved aiming and it will be even better. But unfortunately it is tier 10 so the games will be absolute shit as there are so many low wn8 players on your team who explode within the first minute. Avoid tier 10 and wot has some enjoyable moments.
Heat is butt give me 330 apcr
Still the worst TD, crap gun zero armor, gun depression not found.
When people will realize that this TD is in game just to troll people with awful TD
Yea but your account is buffed by wg, and so is all of the greater wot streamers, otherwise you wouldnt play the game if you miss most shots or get rolled over in most games, us peasent we are just masochist and still love the game even when we get the shaft by wg
this is a trash td ... it need at least 360 rotate turret and 1.2k gun from Jagdpanzer E 100 ... otherwise trash ... precision might be reduced ... due to WOT system design each third shot goes anyway out of aiming circle ... Current form trash without armor/gun/camo ... Balanced version to addition of mention above it need at least 30% base camo ...
Face reveal Dez plz
such a weird request
Hei dez stop doing this Kind of video s!! Stop!! Cause wg Will nerf this tank after Your video 😂😂😂😂
fake video grille is TRASH
:D Thanks for the laugh
@@DezGamez He's right the worst tier 10 750 alpha TD in the game
That first shot on JG was such a noob shot, you literally waited for him to angle and then you shoot.