wondering how they could be ignorant of guns when the Chinese had the earlier gunpowder tubes and cannons for centuries. It was from the Mongols & Chinese the west learned how to make early guns and use gunpowder in war. Shows how isolated even from the mainland Japan was culturally.
@@klyanadkmorr Japan was actually ripping out the original class of people's in a civil war.. the Ainu class of Caucasians (first Japanese peoples) were systematically eradicated and removed from Japanese history. I am intrigued as to how these two individuals are able to compile such a vast amount of false data.. almost like someone is feeding these boys nice little packages of dis info. I think they a pair of shills either willingly or naively. Never once have they addressed the crystal clear and apparent errors in chronology, instead opting for pure mainstream miss information. Real historians don't get to grow and build three channels gaining millions of views, they are silenced and hidden on the Internet, that is just a fact. Either these guys are terrified of ridicule or have no desire for truth.
@@EnlightenedTurtle If you didn't live in your own bubble of fake whatthefkever freak conspiracy info you'd know modern Japan does teach of the Hokkaido AINU and have done things to represent them and help the remaining people as a minority. And post a comment directly to the channel people you fking troll vs replying to my openend question about a real life FACTUAL letter written.
@@andrerobinson3233 we are not quiet as the finns... but we have a negative feeling about the future, lots of self hate... in a room of europeans, we hang out at a conner
Portugese: "yeah dude you kinda just like, stand steady, close on eye and shoot, thats really it" Japanese: "THE WISDOM OF SAGES AND THE WORDS OF THE GODS"
It's crazy how the Portuguese people were saying simple shit like "It's not about seeing far it's about having a more precise aim" and the japanese threw Lao Tsu at them.
Portuguese: Aight it totes simple my dude, you close one eye and trace that iron nub at the end and then Busta-cap!!! Japanese: *Yeets Lao Tsu at them*
Well it's these sailor guys who might not even be literate in their own language talking to a feudal lord who's spent his whole life studying poetry and the classics.
@@TieDef They're traders, they have to be able to write what they buy an sell and keep ledgers. They owned a large, advanced ship able to sail across the globe, after all, these were wealthy, successful merchants, they force fully knew their stuff. The Chinese translator probably never saw them writing, hence why he didn't think they could, but they almost certainly wrote journals and ledgers back in their quarters, or at least someone in their crew did, though merchants at the time preferred to keep track of sales themselves. Besides, they probably made a business of these trips to Asia, so they probably were familiar with the way the Chinese saw the world in a poetic, philosophical way and played along, even if they themselves didn't truly understand it.
We still have. I learned shooting rifles and handguns at a firing range in Italy. The instructor gave me a book. In that book there are advices about focusing exercises, breathing etc to improve accuracy. I followed those advices: at the final exam I hit 100 on 100 targets with the rifle and 98 on 100 targets with the handgun as the Japaneses did 500 years ago in the video. I don't know why the same number (100 shots) was used in 16th century japan and it is still used today at the firing ranges but to me it is fascinating.
Ought we not ensure the best of human thought go into sorting the proper usage of that which, could snuff out its light? Lest it extinguish all, the creation ending its creator.
@@Lazurath101 agreed the second amendment MUST be protected. And frankly Britain and mainland European countries need to arm their citizens as well. Nothing puts a STOP to tyrannical government that goes against the very will of the people it claims it "serves" than an armed population who isnt afraid; like the American people our people. It also ensures that radical marxists never gain control of our country; and they have already taken over the democrat party and all leftism in the USA. WE are what holds them back keeps them in line. They know they would be shot if they tried outright violence and insurrection and outright genocide and illegal alien invasion.
To be fair, there is something very profound in firearms if you yourself think in the right way. A firearm is a weapon of precision and concentration. Just like in life, you try to hit a goal.
@@LunchSays Did you know that there actually was a war, based on the game BFV. EA called it World War 2 and it was the biggest marketing campaign in human history....
Yeah, in comparison to high-born and well-educated Chinese and Japanese folks a bunch of low-born, un-educated Portuguese traders had absolutely no propriety. But they were comparing apples and oranges. I think that in the mid 1600's the fancy people in Europe were using cutlery, but... Like... Normal people used their fingers.
I love how the double translation from Portuguese to Japanese via a Ming Chinese interpreter sounds like a slightly dodgy google translate. Its oddly wholesome
@@maxkennedy8075 so, in contex of your comment is it mean same as "oddly satisfying"? I can't understand the usage of this world, because there are litteraly more than ten different translation.
*Strange ship arrives* *Strange people are in the ship* *Chinese scholar that comes with them starts writing in the sand* "I'm travelling with them, but I don't know them" *Strange people get down of ship and start making noise*
Silly weeaboos. Chinese and Vietnamese were the first people in the east made contact and traded with the Romans in late 1st century BC in Long Biên (Bắc Ninh)
@@cudanmang_theog if we're talking ancient east/west contact you also got the War of the Hevenly horses fought between the chinese empire and the bactrian greek kingdom that was a remnant of Alexander the Great's empire. And in a closer date to the portuguese-japanese contact you have Ibn Battutta, most kickass of muslim scholars/explorers embarking on his glorious backpacking trip that took him from morocco to malasya.
@@MaycroftCholmsky The same point could be made about Buddhism in Japan. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence#Japan Also early Japanese Christians were quite brutally wiped out. Fe. by crucifixion.
Is it just me, or is this kind of adorable? Like yeah we all know where this eventually leads, but the account itself reads like mildly confused schoolboys who don't quite understand each other but are nevertheless happy to make friends and share their toys.
This doesn't really "lead" anywhere. Japan got some guns, traded with the Portuguese for a few decades and then isolated itself until the mid 19th century.
This was actually awesome to listen/read, its literally the beginning of globalization the americas are discovered, now first contact with Japan (some sources even say it was the portuguese who first discovered Australia, which makes sense, but nobody knows why they didnt start colonizing, but having a small population must be the key factor), its awesome. The Portuguese until the European expulsion of Japan were very important, they helped build Nagasaki and some Japanese words even have the influence of the Portuguese. And they were the masters of the Asian commerce until the Union with Spain, but we can say it was Iberians who started the age of globalization. And the diference of interaction is huge, for example, between the Portuguese and the natives of Brazil, for the Portuguese they were people who werent civilized and such, yet, despite not being as advanced as them in lots of fields, they saw the Japanese and Chinese as diferent and wold make trade with them and deals, instead of trying to conquer them (for now at least, they later would conquer parts of Asia, but usually city states with ports).
I love how the Portuguese probably said something like "You close one eye, you brace yourself, and then you shoot." and through double interpretation it became a secret wisdom that was consistent with ancient Chinese philosophy. One question though, don't you also close one eye when shooting a bow or a crossbow? Is this the historian taking some liberties or something? Surely the Japanese ruler would've known why you have to close one eye to aim.
I've never seen an archer close their eye, not sure why. In principle you get more depth vision with both eyes so closing one eye to take aim seems very directly related to the specifics of a rifle (musket), shooters with pistols don't seem to wink either.
I remember listening to a Spanish translator speaking English from Japanese to explain a technique to us. He said "using the power of the the mountains to move the element of water crashing into the sand" then our English interpretator said "he means use your body weight to flow through and smash your opponent"... Okay... Lol
It's easier to aim a firearm using only one eye, for a novice shooter, but ideal to practice with both eyes open while getting used to aiming with the stereo-vision. If for no other reason than to retain your peripheral vision while doing so. Just takes some practice and it's fine.
What I find most interesting in this was how we are able to understand and explain things, even if it isn't by using the technically correct way. They didn't understand how images are formed within our heads, with our eyes as two different receptors that form a parallax, giving us the perception of depth but forming a final image that's a merger of two different viewpoints. However, they still could explain in consistent ways how this worked. By closing one eye, you can more easily concentrate, being able to focus on what you see with one eye only, you lose a long vision, but you are better able to concentrate and aim easily. What in other words, means getting rid of a second viewpoint, which can get in the way of visualizing clearly the trajectory.
do you think that anyone could write at that time? he was probably an esteemed scholar with a reputation to hold and had to boast his people every way, his lords and neighbours. lol.
Japanese guy: Bro why are you squinting if you're trying to see something far away? Portuguese: (hits blunt) It's not about seeing what's far away that matters, it's focusing and finding clarity that allows you to hit that which is far away.
You made a joke, but it got me thinking..........by this time the portuguese had already been to Afrcai and South America..............and even withint European boarders....:I wonder if they would have acess to anything resembling a drug.
Hello all! Hope you are enjoying the video. One correction - at one point the Chinese visitor mentions that the Portuguese "do not know about property" - this should be "propriety". Apologies! Enjoy 👍
How dare you make such a profound mistake! I'm, of course, completely kidding. The frustrating thing about UA-cam is that it's quite difficult to make minor corrections on the platform and taking down the video would be crazy. Please keep up the amazing work!
I am Polish. Japan saved 765 Polish orphans in 1920 and 1922. Around 1920, there were about 200,000 Polish in Siberia. Most of them died. Poland has asked various countries to save orphans. But all countries refused to rescue. Poland finally commissioned Japan to rescue Polish orphans. The Japanese emperor and empress at the time immediately ordered the Japanese to save the Polish orphans.Japan soon began rescue Polish orphans.The orphan was in Siberia. Japanese continued to rescue Polish orphans in Siberia. The smallest orphan that Japan saved was a two-year-old child.The orphan was crying near her dead mother. The Japanese immediately rescued the orphan. Polish orphans were sent to Japan for treatment. Japan fed the Polish orphans a hot meal every day. All Polish orphans have recovered. Japan continued to love Polish orphans very much. All Japanese donated money to save Polish orphans. Polish orphans were always smiling. Japan has successfully returned 765 Polish orphans to Poland. I will not forget this story. Thanks to Japan. God bless Japan.
I think everyone should know that at that time the Portuguese had sold Japanese to foreign countries. Japanese slaves were taken to the Portuguese colonies of Malacca, Goa in India, the United States, Mexico, Argentina, and even to Portugal. Hideyoshi Toyotomi noticed and banned the slave trade in Japan and accused the King of Portugal of it, then the king issued a ban, but the Portuguese in colonies in Asia ignored the king's order. Japanese daimyos in Nagasaki, who converted to Christians, took part in the slave trade in exchange for guns, and attacked and destroyed temples and shrines in Nagasaki. For this reason, Japan expelled Christians and traded only with the Netherlands, which did not spread Christianity.
@Anthony 198877 They probably had their own versions of those words and slang that young people used. Times may be different, but people are the same throughout all of history.
I feel as if the original people were telling me personally, what they saw, and understood, with comparisons in life. Thank you for bringing 500 year old people, to life.
You got to think of it like this; the man who made the painting probably never saw the Europeans in person. He likely had to base it on what other people told him. So imagine a painter on by his canvas and the witness explaining to him what they looked like. "Okay there were these guys from a boat" [Draws guys coming off a boat] "No, they looked different. They were a bit taller" [Makes Japanese people nearby a bit smaller for scale] "Yeah, and they had pointy noses" "What do you mean pointy? Like a spear or a knife?" "Yeah, pointy" [Draws pointy noses] "Also their eyes were weird" "Whatcha mean?" "Their eyes looked round" [Draws eyes a bit more round] "Perfect!"
Well philosopy is the art of thinking, uncovering and understanding. Which by itself leads to a field where are no boundaries about _what_ one could talk. You could take/use you entire life just to talk and think about a single grain of sand and there would be still more, never ending.
European: are you fucking high or something? Translator talks to second Translator back and forwards for half a minute until he turns back again and awnsers 'yes'
I know right, I expected it to be like, " And then the trader fired his fire stick into the sage before raping his wife and daughters, stealing his silver, and burning the nearest village. "
Scott Whatever The narrator is narrating something from a 16th century perspective. Are you really getting butthurt over someone from the 16th century being racist, when basically everyone was?
Well, they were. Altogether with emperor Meiji, the European engineers and technicians he hired, and Japanese tendency to adopt foreign artifacts and perfect them to insane levels.
Blah b “sword making and metallurgy remained rather primitive as well”. False. Japanese used advanced methods of folding metal, and had weapons roughly equal to their European equivalents. European armor and weapons were somewhat better, but it must be considered that Japanese metal was both scarcer and in poorer quality than that found in Europe. Only a fool would call the katana, a blade renowned for its speed and cutting ability “primitive”. While not as useful as penetrating armor as a good long sword, it is by no means directly inferior. It is lighter, can be drawn and swung more quickly, and well made katanas were much sharper. Not to mention the blend of hardened and soft steel used in a katana, giving it the hardness of a harder steel without becoming more brittle. In fact, if both combatants were unarmed, a katana would probably be preferable to a long sword. However, if both had armor, a long sword would be the better choice, thanks to the fact it can be half-sworded and used while grappling.
André Gløersen “The katana is one of my favorite swords.” “It is great at what it’s meant to do.” “It’s a beasty cutter” Quotes from the video I think you meant to debunk me. If you’d read my comment or watched the video you’d know it doesn’t disagree with me at all.
As a Japanese ありがとう。 Thank you for making this video. And thank you portuguese people for teaching us many European things. I pray that everyone will overcome the corona. Sorry my bad english.
@Michel Martinez not true...slavery was a small part of the Portuguese trading...nothing compared to the British, french, Spanish or Dutch...I know that is a general teaching in school but it's not accurate...just like the British don't even teach the slavery or the Dutch call it the golden century...at least in Portugal we study things as they were including slavery... By the way in those times slavery was a xommun practice around the world....but in Portugual there were laws for slavery...try to research before you speak
@@230sergio Bunch of nationalist garbage, we basically invented the transatlantic slave trade, because the number we could enslave in brazil was not enough, so we had to get african slaves. Thousands of them to work in the sugarcane farms. Many died in transit, or working to death. Much suffering was caused as a result. You are the one that needs to research. Also, we are certainly guilty of thinking our colonial empire was cool, portuguese language teachers in highschool basically make us deepthroat the work of propaganda known as the "Lusiadas" and the works of a poet that wanted a fifth empire, Fernando Pessoa. Tough at least my history teachers certainly exposed all the evils of colonization, and said it was bad.
Does anybody realize just how long it would've taken these Portuguese travellers to get to Japan back then? It must've taken a year or more. Such an epic tale. This should be made into a movie.
It is part of an epic tale, "The Lusiads', written by one of Portugal's most famous poets, Camões! And it's also probably the literary work that's still responsible for most of the Portuguese national pride today.
There won't be movies like that until after the Arab Spring spreads to the whole world - until then the studios will keep pumping out sequels and other junk.
I've been watching these videos for a while and I have to say that the idea behind the channel is so simple but so genius. Like, everyone knows that Leif Eriksson found America but when you watch or read something about the subject you get only the bullet points instead of the original text.
When Leif came to North America there were people already there...the same First Nations here today. As with “Canada” these nations made treaties with “Leif” and his people......but because of their barbaric ways and no regard and respect for other lives and for breaking the law of peace, were killed off by indigenous warriors on the east coast.
@@mattkisewatizidatidah6888 Those same people that killed were invaders themselves. They were not the original inhabitants either. There were atleast 3 waves of people migrating to the Americas before the Europeans came. Each conquering/killing the people before them.
Portuguese: "and remember, you have to point the pistol sideways to gain some extra style points" Japanese: "Oh. Even the frail butterfly can scare away the lion" Portuguese: "wut?"
@@Not-Just-Cars Did you watch the video? Considering the whole point of the video was "the first firearms of Japan" (they even had to come up with a new word for this new thing)... what makes you think the Chinese already shared it with them?
@@MrMortull Like the Chinese did with carrier technology? xD They bought an old carrier (from the Russians I think?) and said they would turn it into a hotel... they just pulled it apart and worked out how to make them themselves.
I love hearing of early meetings of East and West, there is something unique of seeing such developed civilizations and what they make of one another. We can learn things about human nature here that I think are largely otherwise obscured. Not to mention on the nature of the systems within the civilizations as they interplay.
Char Aznable America: let us free you from that guy in the corner store who gave you the evil eye, slay your mythical demons in the woods and whatever else we can pull out of our butts to impart you some liberty.
The chinese accidentally discovered gunpowder when they searched for a medicine that keeps eternal youth (alchemy wasn't just an european thing). So they named it "fire medicine". Thats why the japenese guy called it medicine too.
Hey there traveler, welcome to Japan. We say we don't like foreigners, but love everything weird you have to show us. Portuguese guy here. Great video. Fascinating really.
I feel so privileged to be able to read the original text written in classical Chinese. The version narrated in this video is not a verbatim translation, so, people who are amazed by the phrase "quite harmless", don't take it literally! The original text says "非可怪者矣", meaning, this race of people are just merchants who trade with the stuff they have for the stuff they don't have, THERE'S NOTHING TO BE AMAZED.
“Hello! We’re harmless!...Wanna buy some guns??” This led to Oda Nobunaga’s eventual victory against the greatest cavalry army in Japan, the Takeda cavalry. Changing Japan forever.
This is so fascinating. To be able to hear the discussion, their fascination with each other's cultures and differences, and almost a philosophical-like discussion. Very joyous to have found this channel.
Being shown the thoughts, writings, philosophy and logic in an ancient culture at a turning point in history is fascinating. Can I just say, I found this rather profound and thoughtful. Unusual for UA-cam
Wonderful account contained in that letter about another first contact between humans/civilizations who had been completely isolated from each other until that point in time. A video about it as good as this one would be awesome!
In this video you see a glimpse of the real reason why Japan became so successful : Openness to learning. It is the willingness of the Japanese society and people to change and adapting the old that lead to it becoming a prosperous nation. Even though it took them till the Meiji restoration to fully modernise, you can witness the initial enthusiasm they had during the period discussed in this video.
@@ClioMako I don't think that's the case in general though. However, I get where you are coming from, for example in the period of the Tokugawa shogunate they closed the ports and shut out foreign influence. However, I made my point to illustrate the fact that the Japanese have for the most part been willing to implement different ideas and practices. Yes you can say they were forced by the Gun ships of Commodore Matthew Perry, but they still made the choice to change in the end through their own volition. Give an explanation to your claim that the Japanese are not open, if you wish.
LagiNaLangAko23 Either way, they chose to embrace westernization, and that is the main reason Japan was already a quite powerful country in the early 20th century.
It is a complicated story. While following the politics of sakoku (self isolation) for more than 200 years, Japanese people were eager to learn from 'western barbarians'. It was called 'Dutch learning', because Dutch were the only foreigners who were allowed to make some contact with Japanese through their trade post in Nagasaki. From the late 18 century on, the 'Dutch learning' became something like a craze. Dozens of books on various subjects (sciences, arts, technology, medicine, with the exception of Christianity) got translated into Japanese. There were even private academies for the 'Dutch learning'. Of course, this knowledge was mostly limited to upper classes (however, there were even a kind of popular books like 'Everything about western barbarians'). Hence, by 1853 when commodere Perry arrived, a lot of Japanese had at least some idea what they were representing. I don't believe that Japan would have been able to achieve progress after the Meiji restoration without the 'Dutch learning' that basically prepared Japanese. It was very different from the Chinese mentality whereby 'There is no light beyond the Sun, there is no source of knowledge beyond China' was seen as principle.
@@ClioMako They used to be, and they fought reactionary and traditionalist forces in the Meiji restoration to do so. Sure they are reactionary now, and that's why they are not as relevant. Reactionary and right wing politics destroys civilizations by making people jerk off to an idolized past instead of doing anythinf actually useful. They were crushed then, they must be crushed now
@@MustardSkaven Indeed, there is even martial art tradition dedicated to shoot gun. It's called Hojutsu. I believe the gun's kata have been used to train pistol shooting skill because it can give you 360 degree awareness.
*1600's* Europe: "Hey Japan here's some guns and gunpowder" Japan: "Thanks we'll use these." Japan: " actually know what, we don't like them or you so goodbye" *1853* America: "Hey Japan we want to trade with you" Japan: "No!" America: "I don't think you understand." *points gunboats* "we want to trade with you" Japan: "Ok"
@@Pomlithe Tokugawa Shogunate opened a port(probably in Satsuma domain, I forgot) to let Dutch & Portuguese(and only them) in. They also forbid them to preach Christianity.
@@fadhilnugraha195 it was actually called Dejima and it was located in Nagasaki! And only the Dutch were allowed to trade here, this was from 1641 till 1854. The portugese being officially banned from 1639 onwards made the dutch the only western country to have contact with the japanese during this time.
@Toxic Male Interestingly that is sort of true, just destroy the whole universe and there will be no more problems in all of existence. Unless of course you consider non-existence a problem, but then again you wouldn't be around to consider it a problem anymore, so sort of true.
I've been there to Tanegashima, many times. Great surfing there, especially at the beach where the Portuguese ship ran aground. Solid right hand barrel over sand. It's pretty sick. It's not very far from the Japanese rocket launch site, in the very southern tip. Beautiful island.
Always enjoyed history. But the fine details that were missing always troubled me. History is the people and their stories not just dates and bulk events.
@@LuisAldamiz Lmao i see you're still obsessed over "muh economics" huh? Bud, there's so much more to the study of Quantifiable Human Histories. Don't get hung up over one set of aspects/facets.
As someone who studied TaiChi and Chinese Medicine the firearm demo conversation is pretty entertaining. To rectify the heart in this context seems to have meant to calm yourself and steady your breathing. Which is important for shooting rifles. The lord seems to have understood that closing one eye is related to rectifying the heart. The Portuguese are just trying to tell him to calm down, close one eye and focus on just the target. The emperor is probably educated to tie everything back to his philosophical teachings and keeps doing so.
And to think there are people who want to ban 600 year old technology that has brought so many peoples of earth together. And has shaped so many movements apart. Making knowledge illegal is the fastest way into the next dark age.
"They show their feelings with no self control" I think this still holds kind of true; being from Guatemala, the time I lived in Europe led me to notice and appreciate the bigger emotional freedom, as I call it, that you have there in terms of expressing and dealing with your emotions in comparison to other cultures.
depends on where in Europe. Britain is rather reserved. Scandinavia even more so, although they aren't shy about the strangest things, going naked in public, but they won't talk to you about their feelings......
That had me SO confused. I'm also not really sure what they meant by "eating with their hands" utensils weren't uncommon in Europe, so why the traders didn't have any is a bit strange.
@@keegobricks9734 At this point in time forks were used mostly within royal courts and noble families in France and Italy, so even though knifes were used to cut food, it would still be picked by hand.
We Portuguese were poorly perceived by narrator. One could say he thought we just happen to get there, randomly. Instead we were using the stars to guide us, our sailors had immense knowledge in several fields and that's how we roamed the seven seas.
Thank you for a historical presentation without moral grandstanding and for presenting an account that acknowledges the importance of remembering the virtues of one's forbears.
Even nowadays Portugal is the most celebrated foreign country in Japan. Theres several festivals celebrating the arrival of the Portuguese, especially in Tanagashima.
Awesome video, highlighting very important historical event. No muskets would probably mean much longer internecine warfare in Japan, because first commander to master use of firearms, namely Oda Nobunaga got so successful he got unification of Japan started.
@@munnypoltric Japan is one nation of one people. It would make sense that they exist within one state. The only exception I can think of is that once Japan was unified (And even to an extent before) the Ainu people of Hokkaido were subjugated under Japanese rule And the Ainu and the Japanese are not one nation of one people
It must have seemed like a very important event to the Japanese being able to acquire firearms from the Portuguese, similar to Prometheus handing mankind fire in Greek mythology.
@Roger Dodger I guess that the Chinese knew the power behind guns and didnt want a potential rival having access to them. Neat info, I totally overlooked that China info.
Apart from cannons (for naval battles and sieges), firearms weren't that overpowered in the 16th century. With the right strategy (like volley fire), it could be deadly, but only like any new weapon until then. Weirdly, as far as I know the Japanese didn't really use cannons. Just arquebuses. They'll pay it dearly in Korea later (Koreans that used cannons (and won every naval engagement) but not arquebuses... still using bows and stuff).
@mendaix more like Britain and France as China and Japan were only allies because of their shared religion(Buddhism), but their priority was always Korea.
"Ok, aim small, miss small." "If one were to focus their inner being and center all their thoughts on that which is most important in the moment, then that stone of soft metal will take your focus with it as it flies through the heavens and deposit itself in the inner workings of that which you wish to destroy in its smallest of hidden places."
Thank you, That was an amazing tale, exspecially the introduction of the musket, it must of blown there minds, (not literally), but the musket must of seemed like magic at first until properly understood, the squinting of the eye sounds like it really baffled them, to close ones eye & still hit the target. Brilliant tale.
It's fascinating how the Japanese people, unlike most nations that were colonized and conquered by the Europenas, were able to immediately learn the ways of the foreigners and to absorb everything they found useful - and they did it on multiple occasions throughout the history - while retaining their unique ways and lifestyle. This approach not only saved them from being conquered, but turned them into a new superpower and probably the most unique great civilization on the planet. Japan is a brilliant nation!
@@AbelPeña2067 Millions of slaughtered native Americans would beg to differ... The English just found more long-term success in committing genocides and stealing foreign treaasures, but the Spanish and the Portuguese were equally cruel and greedy.
Mostly harmless... until the Nossa Senhora da Graça incident in 1610 in which the Japanese saw firsthand that the Portuguese would rather die than surrender.
"The people of old said, if the virtuous achievements of the forebears are not made clear to the world, the descendants are to blame." Wise words. To bad, we have many idiots today in the western countries who do not understand this.
Aggressive Tubesock as if other cultures haven’t committed heinous crimes, pay attention man, every culture at one point or another had some slavery. Save deep amazonian tribes or inuits. White people were doing what every culture did back in those days, conquering. We just happened to do it the best, and had some of the best technology around at the time. Look further into this, don’t just go with the common leftist theory of “white man bad!” All people bad. You can’t demonize one race over the next. Muslims and jews were the biggest slavers back in ancient times. Don’t forget African kings that sold their own people to europeans and middle easterners. Think about all the amazing technology and life saving medicines we have today thanks to western civilization. Not everything is black and white! They want us divided man! Peace upon you.
@Aggressive Tubesock You don't even know what is my nationality and who my ancestors were you moron. I wonder what is your ethnicity? I'm pretty sure I could tell you some interesting stuff about your ancestors. You sound like a parody of sjw. Who are already a parody themselves.
Really cool. You should do Fernão Mendes Pinto's account of the contact, he was one of the first Portuguese in Japan, if we are to believe his writings.
"Tokitaka's interest lay neither in the wooden stock nor in the ornament, but in the way the weapon could be used in times of war." At first I thought this sentence perfectly described why this dude was the dude in charge of the area, but apparently he was only 15 years old at the time. I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that this was a particularly cut-throat period of Japanese history where this kind of pragmatism is either so integral for those that want to stay rulers that even a boy king understands this during his first year of direct rule, or that this is some kind of Japanese Alexander the Great who has already managed to kill off his dad and taken charge at 15 due to impatience.
His territory was taken by some warlords who basically wanted to become the next Daimyo. If you read the commentary of the text, not long after his first batch of successful musket reproduction he basically reconquer his lost island. www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:789497/FULLTEXT01.pdf
@@rickrozen2341 you never took anything from the Portuguese crown when you and the English took over Portugal was under the Spanish crown, that being the only reason why you sneaked us. And to be fair most of the work was put in by Indians, not even you. 30 vessels Vs 2 Portuguese ships oh what a glorious day for your country. Lol
What an amazing record and such an interesting story. I have often thought of people's reaction when they first saw firearms and this account is incredibly detailed. I would love more of this kind of account.
Katsu Curry A popular dish was introduced to Japan by the Portuguese. Breaded chicken which originated in Europe along with the curry sauce which the Portuguese sailors adopted in their trades with India.
The Shogunate said nah for a good reason. Any warlord could raise a powerful force by conscripting peasants and armed them with muskets. Training them how to use it effectively is far easier than say raising an army trained to use melee weapons and bows. That is why there was a Samurai class in those days. There have to be a bunch of dudes focused in killing using swords and bows and needed time training how to use them. In Europe, where guns were widespread, there were constant warefare for centuries using firearms.
@@tat3179 The Shogunate could have been the ones to monopolize guns. Their lack of wanting to adopt guns is what led to their downfall. Of course we're looking back at the events with hindsight, but the point still stands. Foreign guns are what toppled them. If they hadn't been so isolated, they would have heard about this happening in India and China decades earlier.
@Tuho In the long term, sure. But imagine you are the Shogun. You rule an island archipelago. Barbarians are introducing technologies and ideas in form of Catholicism that would threaten your position of power and the stability of your rule. Those tech and ideas don't benefit you or or rule directly, as your nearest neighbour, China, also practices a close door policy. Why should you open up?
@@tat3179 Umm no they actually did adopt and use guns on a massive scale. it was one of the biggest things that put the Tokagawa Shogunate on top and guns were deployed throughout their civil wars and when invading Korea. The decline in their use happened because there wasent any warfare after the Shogunate secured power and weapons in general were restricted to keep the peace. The romanticiation of the sword and pretending guns werent in wide use was made up much later
"just stand straight and squint bro" "ah the art of rectifying the heart, the elders have taught it and I do believe I have mastered it. As for squinting, this is perhaps similar to what Lao Tsi said, who teaches that..." "ok dude erh .. yeah I didn't get any of that, but whatever, just stand still and squint it's pretty easy"
Aliens: *land* Historic Japanese: "Who are these barbarians?" Aliens: *offer future tech* Historic Japanese: "Don't get me wrong.. you're still barbarians, but we'll learn of these magic things, that we can't even conceive of at this moment"
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wondering how they could be ignorant of guns when the Chinese had the earlier gunpowder tubes and cannons for centuries. It was from the Mongols & Chinese the west learned how to make early guns and use gunpowder in war. Shows how isolated even from the mainland Japan was culturally.
@@klyanadkmorr Japan was actually ripping out the original class of people's in a civil war.. the Ainu class of Caucasians (first Japanese peoples) were systematically eradicated and removed from Japanese history.
I am intrigued as to how these two individuals are able to compile such a vast amount of false data.. almost like someone is feeding these boys nice little packages of dis info.
I think they a pair of shills either willingly or naively.
Never once have they addressed the crystal clear and apparent errors in chronology, instead opting for pure mainstream miss information.
Real historians don't get to grow and build three channels gaining millions of views, they are silenced and hidden on the Internet, that is just a fact.
Either these guys are terrified of ridicule or have no desire for truth.
@@EnlightenedTurtle If you didn't live in your own bubble of fake whatthefkever freak conspiracy info you'd know modern Japan does teach of the Hokkaido AINU and have done things to represent them and help the remaining people as a minority. And post a comment directly to the channel people you fking troll vs replying to my openend question about a real life FACTUAL letter written.
"They show their feelings without any self-control."
That still is, how a Japanese person would describe a Portuguese. 😂
Let's face it, that is also how Northern Europeans describe our Southern neighbours :D
East Asian vs European social temperament and mental depth is the comparison.
Portuguese are the most "shy" latins. Spanish or italians are WAY MORE loud.
@@erdnasiul87 but how shy are portuguese relative to non latins?
@@andrerobinson3233 we are not quiet as the finns... but we have a negative feeling about the future, lots of self hate... in a room of europeans, we hang out at a conner
Portugese: "yeah dude you kinda just like, stand steady, close on eye and shoot, thats really it"
Japanese: "THE WISDOM OF SAGES AND THE WORDS OF THE GODS"
😂😂😂
ᛇ Odin ᛦᚵᛑᚱᛆᛋᛁᛚ Ström ᛚ japanese: he’s the Messiah
"Well you kinda want to kill your depth perception so you're focused on aiming at a flat image."
"MY MAN DID YOU JUST QUOTE LAO TSU?"
@@LaEsquelaVieja You can almost picture him asking the translator "Does that - Does that mean he wants to shoot the gun or not?"
Portugese: Yeah so like, we believe in this one god who's pretty chill, you just gotta be chill back.
Japanese: My man, it is time for you to leave.
It's crazy how the Portuguese people were saying simple shit like "It's not about seeing far it's about having a more precise aim" and the japanese threw Lao Tsu at them.
lmao
Portuguese: Aight it totes simple my dude, you close one eye and trace that iron nub at the end and then Busta-cap!!!
Japanese: *Yeets Lao Tsu at them*
It is called language barrier, you are able to hear only one side of the story as the document was made in Japan...
Well it's these sailor guys who might not even be literate in their own language talking to a feudal lord who's spent his whole life studying poetry and the classics.
@@TieDef They're traders, they have to be able to write what they buy an sell and keep ledgers. They owned a large, advanced ship able to sail across the globe, after all, these were wealthy, successful merchants, they force fully knew their stuff. The Chinese translator probably never saw them writing, hence why he didn't think they could, but they almost certainly wrote journals and ledgers back in their quarters, or at least someone in their crew did, though merchants at the time preferred to keep track of sales themselves. Besides, they probably made a business of these trips to Asia, so they probably were familiar with the way the Chinese saw the world in a poetic, philosophical way and played along, even if they themselves didn't truly understand it.
How they basically have a philosophical conversation about the usage of a gun...
Honestly we should be having more of those these days...
We still have. I learned shooting rifles and handguns at a firing range in Italy. The instructor gave me a book. In that book there are advices about focusing exercises, breathing etc to improve accuracy. I followed those advices: at the final exam I hit 100 on 100 targets with the rifle and 98 on 100 targets with the handgun as the Japaneses did 500 years ago in the video. I don't know why the same number (100 shots) was used in 16th century japan and it is still used today at the firing ranges but to me it is fascinating.
Ought we not ensure the best of human thought go into sorting the proper usage of that which, could snuff out its light? Lest it extinguish all, the creation ending its creator.
@@Lazurath101 agreed the second amendment MUST be protected. And frankly Britain and mainland European countries need to arm their citizens as well. Nothing puts a STOP to tyrannical government that goes against the very will of the people it claims it "serves" than an armed population who isnt afraid; like the American people our people. It also ensures that radical marxists never gain control of our country; and they have already taken over the democrat party and all leftism in the USA. WE are what holds them back keeps them in line. They know they would be shot if they tried outright violence and insurrection and outright genocide and illegal alien invasion.
To be fair, there is something very profound in firearms if you yourself think in the right way. A firearm is a weapon of precision and concentration. Just like in life, you try to hit a goal.
Tokitaka: is it possible to learn this power?
Portuguese: *not from a jedi*
“Not from a Spanish man”
Portuguese people are so nice! They sailed three oceans just to teach the japonense how to use guns.
Portuguese captain: not from a pagan
@@MaylocBrittinorum not from a samurai 😁
@Angelici Ordinis They also spread the religion of peace
"If you would like to shoot it, we would love to teach you all its secrets."
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@@LunchSays Did you know that there actually was a war, based on the game BFV. EA called it World War 2 and it was the biggest marketing campaign in human history....
@@geist41334 next thing you know ea will find a way to heavily monetize wwll
Tora! Tora! Tora!
"they do not know about property" "are quite harmless"
Most inaccurate statements ever surrounding shipgoing european nations in the 1600s
They meant “propriety”
Yeah, in comparison to high-born and well-educated Chinese and Japanese folks a bunch of low-born, un-educated Portuguese traders had absolutely no propriety. But they were comparing apples and oranges.
I think that in the mid 1600's the fancy people in Europe were using cutlery, but... Like... Normal people used their fingers.
Well technicly they didnt really know about property, they just took the land.
well, we portuguese didnt know much about others property since we, like most of europe just kinda of took what we wanted from other continents
Dmitry Terek you should think more critically. Manners serve a social purpose.
I love how the double translation from Portuguese to Japanese via a Ming Chinese interpreter sounds like a slightly dodgy google translate. Its oddly wholesome
Ancient educated Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese can communicate by writing because all the educated people at that time learnt Chinese.
Can you expain in two worlds what "wholesome" means?
Wholesome is something that makes you feel good? Or good for you health?
Сергей Кондратов It means both.
@@maxkennedy8075 so, in contex of your comment is it mean same as "oddly satisfying"?
I can't understand the usage of this world, because there are litteraly more than ten different translation.
Сергей Кондратов Think of it like this.
Eating a good takaway is satisfying
Eating some cookies your Mum baked for you is wholesome
Europe: Boom powder make ball go fast
Japan: WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@Char Aznable exactly what I was thinking
Japan: Hot water makes body clean
Europe: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@@xAznSkyxx this doesnt make sense
@@NeonLine Because theres a stereotype that French and Italian people dont bathe or something like that.
@@Rouxgarou96 damn for real?
*Strange ship arrives*
*Strange people are in the ship*
*Chinese scholar that comes with them starts writing in the sand*
"I'm travelling with them, but I don't know them"
*Strange people get down of ship and start making noise*
"hey homeboy we have guns and Jesus, say you want one or we'll use both"
That's completely funny 😄😆🤣😂😂😂.
Silly weeaboos. Chinese and Vietnamese were the first people in the east made contact and traded with the Romans in late 1st century BC in Long Biên (Bắc Ninh)
@@cudanmang_theog if we're talking ancient east/west contact you also got the War of the Hevenly horses fought between the chinese empire and the bactrian greek kingdom that was a remnant of Alexander the Great's empire.
And in a closer date to the portuguese-japanese contact you have Ibn Battutta, most kickass of muslim scholars/explorers embarking on his glorious backpacking trip that took him from morocco to malasya.
@@cudanmang_theog yes
"Quite harmless"
Portuguese "harmless" boy: let me introduce Japan to...
G U N S
More importantly, let us harmlessly spread our religion of love and mutual understanding to some parts of your country.
@Alex Goulias Are you okay, friend
@@MaycroftCholmsky The same point could be made about Buddhism in Japan.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence#Japan
Also early Japanese Christians were quite brutally wiped out. Fe. by crucifixion.
@@MaycroftCholmsky "harmlessly spread our religion"
Pretty sure guns were invented in China. I think the Japanese knew about them.
Is it just me, or is this kind of adorable? Like yeah we all know where this eventually leads, but the account itself reads like mildly confused schoolboys who don't quite understand each other but are nevertheless happy to make friends and share their toys.
First contact between civilizations are a delight to read.
This doesn't really "lead" anywhere. Japan got some guns, traded with the Portuguese for a few decades and then isolated itself until the mid 19th century.
This was actually awesome to listen/read, its literally the beginning of globalization the americas are discovered, now first contact with Japan (some sources even say it was the portuguese who first discovered Australia, which makes sense, but nobody knows why they didnt start colonizing, but having a small population must be the key factor), its awesome. The Portuguese until the European expulsion of Japan were very important, they helped build Nagasaki and some Japanese words even have the influence of the Portuguese. And they were the masters of the Asian commerce until the Union with Spain, but we can say it was Iberians who started the age of globalization.
And the diference of interaction is huge, for example, between the Portuguese and the natives of Brazil, for the Portuguese they were people who werent civilized and such, yet, despite not being as advanced as them in lots of fields, they saw the Japanese and Chinese as diferent and wold make trade with them and deals, instead of trying to conquer them (for now at least, they later would conquer parts of Asia, but usually city states with ports).
Missed that
@@iron6672 except themselves of course.
And thus history was unalterably set on the course to deliver us cat girl tentacle hentai.
Truly the best timeline
If they had only known then, of the wonders that would come.
Sometimes things do work out for the best.
This comment is the best.
@@ScottStratton Yes
I love how the Portuguese probably said something like "You close one eye, you brace yourself, and then you shoot." and through double interpretation it became a secret wisdom that was consistent with ancient Chinese philosophy. One question though, don't you also close one eye when shooting a bow or a crossbow? Is this the historian taking some liberties or something? Surely the Japanese ruler would've known why you have to close one eye to aim.
I've never seen an archer close their eye, not sure why. In principle you get more depth vision with both eyes so closing one eye to take aim seems very directly related to the specifics of a rifle (musket), shooters with pistols don't seem to wink either.
I remember listening to a Spanish translator speaking English from Japanese to explain a technique to us. He said "using the power of the the mountains to move the element of water crashing into the sand" then our English interpretator said "he means use your body weight to flow through and smash your opponent"... Okay... Lol
It's easier to aim a firearm using only one eye, for a novice shooter, but ideal to practice with both eyes open while getting used to aiming with the stereo-vision. If for no other reason than to retain your peripheral vision while doing so. Just takes some practice and it's fine.
What I find most interesting in this was how we are able to understand and explain things, even if it isn't by using the technically correct way.
They didn't understand how images are formed within our heads, with our eyes as two different receptors that form a parallax, giving us the perception of depth but forming a final image that's a merger of two different viewpoints.
However, they still could explain in consistent ways how this worked. By closing one eye, you can more easily concentrate, being able to focus on what you see with one eye only, you lose a long vision, but you are better able to concentrate and aim easily. What in other words, means getting rid of a second viewpoint, which can get in the way of visualizing clearly the trajectory.
do you think that anyone could write at that time? he was probably an esteemed scholar with a reputation to hold and had to boast his people every way, his lords and neighbours. lol.
Japanese guy: Bro why are you squinting if you're trying to see something far away?
Portuguese: (hits blunt) It's not about seeing what's far away that matters, it's focusing and finding clarity that allows you to hit that which is far away.
Lane Shockley I need to know what they were smoking back then
@@halfnhalf5038 gunpowder
Japanese guy: Broooo..(hits blunt as well)
Shit is heavy
You made a joke, but it got me thinking..........by this time the portuguese had already been to Afrcai and South America..............and even withint European boarders....:I wonder if they would have acess to anything resembling a drug.
Imagine being like
"Okay stand up straight and close one eye!"
And get the an answer about lao tzu
Back in the days you went to Japan to discuss ancient philosophy, not for Hentai.
@@Alias_Anybody I think it still isn't very advisable to discuss Hentai once you arrive there
every time
666 likes, it is a shame if someone ruins it
I like to imagine they were just flexing on them and silently saying name ONE quote from saint peter I dare you... nothing? You got nothing
Hello all! Hope you are enjoying the video. One correction - at one point the Chinese visitor mentions that the Portuguese "do not know about property" - this should be "propriety". Apologies! Enjoy 👍
Subtitles in portuguese please. I really like history and I wanted to follow your channel. I m from Brazil.
How dare you make such a profound mistake! I'm, of course, completely kidding. The frustrating thing about UA-cam is that it's quite difficult to make minor corrections on the platform and taking down the video would be crazy. Please keep up the amazing work!
I am Polish. Japan saved 765 Polish orphans in 1920 and 1922. Around 1920, there were about 200,000 Polish in Siberia. Most of them died.
Poland has asked various countries to save orphans. But all countries refused to rescue. Poland finally commissioned Japan to rescue Polish orphans. The Japanese emperor and empress at the time immediately ordered the Japanese to save the Polish orphans.Japan soon began rescue Polish orphans.The orphan was in Siberia. Japanese continued to rescue Polish orphans in Siberia. The smallest orphan that Japan saved was a two-year-old child.The orphan was crying near her dead mother. The Japanese immediately rescued the orphan. Polish orphans were sent to Japan for treatment. Japan fed the Polish orphans a hot meal every day. All Polish orphans have recovered. Japan continued to love Polish orphans very much. All Japanese donated money to save Polish orphans. Polish orphans were always smiling. Japan has successfully returned 765 Polish orphans to Poland.
I will not forget this story. Thanks to Japan. God bless Japan.
I think everyone should know that at that time the Portuguese had sold Japanese to foreign countries. Japanese slaves were taken to the Portuguese colonies of Malacca, Goa in India, the United States, Mexico, Argentina, and even to Portugal. Hideyoshi Toyotomi noticed and banned the slave trade in Japan and accused the King of Portugal of it, then the king issued a ban, but the Portuguese in colonies in Asia ignored the king's order.
Japanese daimyos in Nagasaki, who converted to Christians, took part in the slave trade in exchange for guns, and attacked and destroyed temples and shrines in Nagasaki.
For this reason, Japan expelled Christians and traded only with the Netherlands, which did not spread Christianity.
Makes sense, Hard to imagine a band of Traders who had no concept of personal possessions.
It's amazing how guns brought people together lol such a bro moment
"Can you teach me how to kill someone with this?"
"Yeah, say no more fam"
@Anthony 198877 They probably had their own versions of those words and slang that young people used. Times may be different, but people are the same throughout all of history.
slyrooster1241 which eventually leads to bro jobs.
We men are so simple, and unchanged in our basic pleasures. It’s beautiful.
Anthony 198877 this was like freaking 300-400yrs ago. Boomer...
I love how when he hear the word “concentration”, he immediately thought of the teachings of Lao Tzu (the creator of Daoism).
Lol
well they were very very primtive its all his brain could think of. poor primitive
He is such a fan.
@@halburd1 Uh no... he's just fanboying lol. People haven't changed our nature.
It's like when today everyone notices when someone says a reference to something you know. It's ancient fanboying, I think
I feel as if the original people were telling me personally, what they saw, and understood, with comparisons in life.
Thank you for bringing 500 year old people, to life.
I just love these ancient Japanese drawings of the Portuguese. They look so overly dramatic with weird eyes and huge noses. It's kinda hilarious.
Oh, so they were actually jewish traders...
@@ahmataevo no, Europeans or caucasians have a longer nose than those of the far east Asia.
@@ahmataevo they were le happy merchants.
You got to think of it like this; the man who made the painting probably never saw the Europeans in person. He likely had to base it on what other people told him. So imagine a painter on by his canvas and the witness explaining to him what they looked like.
"Okay there were these guys from a boat"
[Draws guys coming off a boat]
"No, they looked different. They were a bit taller"
[Makes Japanese people nearby a bit smaller for scale]
"Yeah, and they had pointy noses"
"What do you mean pointy? Like a spear or a knife?"
"Yeah, pointy"
[Draws pointy noses]
"Also their eyes were weird"
"Whatcha mean?"
"Their eyes looked round"
[Draws eyes a bit more round]
"Perfect!"
No I've been to Portugal that's how they look
I love how they had a long philosophical discussion about the nature of squinting.
Ofc they had, as it was amazing at the time
Well philosopy is the art of thinking, uncovering and understanding. Which by itself leads to a field where are no boundaries about _what_ one could talk. You could take/use you entire life just to talk and think about a single grain of sand and there would be still more, never ending.
European: are you fucking high or something? Translator talks to second Translator back and forwards for half a minute until he turns back again and awnsers 'yes'
@@wiggoER'Ahh, yes, to be as high as the clouds in the heavens, unburdened by earthly thoughts. You are most wise, foreign sage'.
thank you for replying to a comment i wrote 3yrs ago@@onii-chandaisuki5710
This is surprisingly wholesome
I know right, I expected it to be like, " And then the trader fired his fire stick into the sage before raping his wife and daughters, stealing his silver, and burning the nearest village. "
Scott Whatever The narrator is narrating something from a 16th century perspective.
Are you really getting butthurt over someone from the 16th century being racist, when basically everyone was?
@Scott Whatever Nobody cares about your White guilt get over yourself
@@hunternichols9463 Pretty sure that was a joke, although I honestly can't tell anymore
@@daniel4647 I just don't know anymore either he could be joking around or he's dead serious either way it's annoying
"If you would like to shoot it, we would love to teach you all its secrets."
The Washington Post: Portuguese confirmed responsible for Pearl Harbor!
Well, they were. Altogether with emperor Meiji, the European engineers and technicians he hired, and Japanese tendency to adopt foreign artifacts and perfect them to insane levels.
Lol. that sounds like something they would actual write and release for real. Makes it funnier.
Blah b “sword making and metallurgy remained rather primitive as well”.
False. Japanese used advanced methods of folding metal, and had weapons roughly equal to their European equivalents. European armor and weapons were somewhat better, but it must be considered that Japanese metal was both scarcer and in poorer quality than that found in Europe.
Only a fool would call the katana, a blade renowned for its speed and cutting ability “primitive”. While not as useful as penetrating armor as a good long sword, it is by no means directly inferior. It is lighter, can be drawn and swung more quickly, and well made katanas were much sharper. Not to mention the blend of hardened and soft steel used in a katana, giving it the hardness of a harder steel without becoming more brittle.
In fact, if both combatants were unarmed, a katana would probably be preferable to a long sword. However, if both had armor, a long sword would be the better choice, thanks to the fact it can be half-sworded and used while grappling.
@@griffinflyer77 ua-cam.com/video/Ytbh8mhknFA/v-deo.html
André Gløersen
“The katana is one of my favorite swords.”
“It is great at what it’s meant to do.”
“It’s a beasty cutter”
Quotes from the video I think you meant to debunk me. If you’d read my comment or watched the video you’d know it doesn’t disagree with me at all.
Criminally underappreciated channel.
Thank you for saying underappreciated rather than underrated. I can't stand that.
As a Japanese ありがとう。
Thank you for making this video.
And thank you portuguese people for
teaching us many European things.
I pray that everyone will overcome the corona.
Sorry my bad english.
Unifying Japan is probably the best thing we ever did and we didn't even intend it
Love from Hungary.
From a Portuguese barberian, thank you very much for your generosity.
As a Portuguese, thank you for accepting us and embracing the art of tempura, love japanese cuisine and culture, hope you're safe
🇵🇹🇯🇵
They made closing one eye to be a bigger issue than it really is.
Yeah, that was funny. Although I suppose it wouldn't make any sense when shooting a bow, so it's not too strange.
closing one eye removes depth perception, always aim both eyes open, even if you see double at first, you will eventually not.
@@pvkjhilk8323 depth perception is useless unless you're shooting long range and taking bullet drop into account
How many musket of 16 century you fire in your life???...
In Regione Caecorum Rex est luscus.
"they are quite harmless"
Oh boy
They were... don't confuse with the Spanish, British and Dutch...who tried to conquer Portugal and all the places they went many times...
In that case they actually were harmless... even more so, they were friendly.
@Michel Martinez not true...slavery was a small part of the Portuguese trading...nothing compared to the British, french, Spanish or Dutch...I know that is a general teaching in school but it's not accurate...just like the British don't even teach the slavery or the Dutch call it the golden century...at least in Portugal we study things as they were including slavery... By the way in those times slavery was a xommun practice around the world....but in Portugual there were laws for slavery...try to research before you speak
Maybe he just meant this particular crew.
@@230sergio Bunch of nationalist garbage, we basically invented the transatlantic slave trade, because the number we could enslave in brazil was not enough, so we had to get african slaves. Thousands of them to work in the sugarcane farms. Many died in transit, or working to death. Much suffering was caused as a result. You are the one that needs to research. Also, we are certainly guilty of thinking our colonial empire was cool, portuguese language teachers in highschool basically make us deepthroat the work of propaganda known as the "Lusiadas" and the works of a poet that wanted a fifth empire, Fernando Pessoa. Tough at least my history teachers certainly exposed all the evils of colonization, and said it was bad.
First things they said when they landed: "PORTUGAL CARALHO!"
Lil' Cumstain PORTUGAL CARALHO
@@dinis8271 PORTUGAL CARALHO!
CADÊ O OURO?
@@VictorHugoDeFreitasCunha Foi todo para refazer lisboa depois do terramoto, por isso o vosso ouro está nos nossos prédios na forma de cimento xD
@@mori5481 falei só pra causar intriga e ter brasileiro quebrando a corrente de "portugal caralho!" kkkkkk
Far West Europeans meet Far East Asians.
So funny.
Not funny but epic, a truly unbelievable journey, Portuguese were the Nasa of those times, incredible voyage...
far far west is just east
@Masterffc Iceland?
@@MustardSkaven Iceland is more Arctic than Atlantic/Western though. Portugal is the definition of Atlantic.
@Masterffc . Nope Ireland or Iceland.
Does anybody realize just how long it would've taken these Portuguese travellers to get to Japan back then? It must've taken a year or more. Such an epic tale. This should be made into a movie.
Watch Silence from Martin Scorsese, it's about portuguese presence in Japan (not first contact though).
It is part of an epic tale, "The Lusiads', written by one of Portugal's most famous poets, Camões!
And it's also probably the literary work that's still responsible for most of the Portuguese national pride today.
@@PrimiusLovin correct.
There won't be movies like that until after the Arab Spring spreads to the whole world - until then the studios will keep pumping out sequels and other junk.
There is always the 80s classic miniseries Shogun, that takes place when the first non-Portuguese ship reaches Japan.
"They love our tentacle porn, the weirdos..."
-Japanese Chronicler, 16th Century
Is there really such a thing?
@@mikediamond353 Oh you sweet summer child
Does tentacle porn that old exist. At least the famous Fisherman's Wife is from the 1800s if my memory serves me right.
Hokusai is 19th century
@@mikediamond353 Ask Kurt Eichenwald.
I've been watching these videos for a while and I have to say that the idea behind the channel is so simple but so genius. Like, everyone knows that Leif Eriksson found America but when you watch or read something about the subject you get only the bullet points instead of the original text.
Thanks!
@@VoicesofthePast you're doing a fantastic job, never stop pls
When Leif came to North America there were people already there...the same First Nations here today. As with “Canada” these nations made treaties with “Leif” and his people......but because of their barbaric ways and no regard and respect for other lives and for breaking the law of peace, were killed off by indigenous warriors on the east coast.
@@mattkisewatizidatidah6888 Those same people that killed were invaders themselves. They were not the original inhabitants either. There were atleast 3 waves of people migrating to the Americas before the Europeans came. Each conquering/killing the people before them.
It’s voices from the past.
Portuguese: "and remember, you have to point the pistol sideways to gain some extra style points"
Japanese: "Oh. Even the frail butterfly can scare away the lion"
Portuguese: "wut?"
*Hits blunt*
Love how easily the Portuguese share musket technology with the Japanese!
Probably just wanted to make that sale. "Oh sure dude, we can teach you how to shoot! You want one? How 'bout TWO?"
Chinese already shared
@@Not-Just-Cars Did you watch the video? Considering the whole point of the video was "the first firearms of Japan" (they even had to come up with a new word for this new thing)... what makes you think the Chinese already shared it with them?
@@MrMortull Like the Chinese did with carrier technology? xD
They bought an old carrier (from the Russians I think?) and said they would turn it into a hotel... they just pulled it apart and worked out how to make them themselves.
@@blazednlovinit we know for sure the Mongols invaded Japan with it
"They are not very strange."
Th-thank you senpai 🥺
どうも！(＾∇＾)ﾉ♪
You mean: Thank you, shi-fu.
Because the guy is Chinese, not Japanese.
And yes IKnow the meme...
@SC O'Dubhlaoch which country are you from?
@Tiger Tamer What's with the cyberbullying?
I love hearing of early meetings of East and West, there is something unique of seeing such developed civilizations and what they make of one another. We can learn things about human nature here that I think are largely otherwise obscured.
Not to mention on the nature of the systems within the civilizations as they interplay.
@Son Gohan And by what standards do we judge such a thing justly? I know of one, but what do you and you who read this say?
Early meeting? Definitively, Not the backward Japan in the past!
@@LostArchivist By whether or not they engage in cannibalism for one thing.
And thus, tempura was born
All that smell of oil makes my mouth water 🤤😋
@@LL-bl8hd *OPEN the COUNTRY*
~Murica
Char Aznable
America: let us free you from that guy in the corner store who gave you the evil eye, slay your mythical demons in the woods and whatever else we can pull out of our butts to impart you some liberty.
カステラもな！
Also, 金平糖 kompeito/ confectionery.
The chinese accidentally discovered gunpowder when they searched for a medicine that keeps eternal youth (alchemy wasn't just an european thing). So they named it "fire medicine". Thats why the japenese guy called it medicine too.
Medicine was another name for chemical, from what I understand.
Yes the kanji for gunpowder is 火薬, literally means "fire medicine". The 薬 is still used to mean both "medicine" and "chemical compounds".
Hey there traveler, welcome to Japan.
We say we don't like foreigners, but love everything weird you have to show us.
Portuguese guy here. Great video. Fascinating really.
I feel so privileged to be able to read the original text written in classical Chinese. The version narrated in this video is not a verbatim translation, so, people who are amazed by the phrase "quite harmless", don't take it literally! The original text says "非可怪者矣", meaning, this race of people are just merchants who trade with the stuff they have for the stuff they don't have, THERE'S NOTHING TO BE AMAZED.
So a more verbatim translation would be instead of "Quite harmless" it'd be more like "Quite ordinary"
So it was more like "These people are not amazing like us Chinese".
One can tell how hilariously culturally confused that conversation (with double interpreters on top of it) probably was.
“Hello! We’re harmless!...Wanna buy some guns??”
This led to Oda Nobunaga’s eventual victory against the greatest cavalry army in Japan, the Takeda cavalry. Changing Japan forever.
Could you do more videos about europeans in japan? Like the dutch or christianity?
Yes! Yes yes yes yes yes
@@VoicesofthePast YES PLEASE !
Yeah, something about a sword duel between a European gentleman and a Samurai would be cool.
I’m interested to see how Christianity got introduced in Asia. There’s very little information on it in the book of Acts
@@itsmidtrib1569 well...the Portuguese did it...
The quality and eloquence of your documentaries trully deserves highest regard, thank you!
This is so fascinating. To be able to hear the discussion, their fascination with each other's cultures and differences, and almost a philosophical-like discussion. Very joyous to have found this channel.
Being shown the thoughts, writings, philosophy and logic in an ancient culture at a turning point in history is fascinating. Can I just say, I found this rather profound and thoughtful. Unusual for UA-cam
Do one about the "letter from Pero Vaz de Caminha" There are some beautiful first impressions about the native south Americans by the Portuguese.
Wonderful account contained in that letter about another first contact between humans/civilizations who had been completely isolated from each other until that point in time.
A video about it as good as this one would be awesome!
*Siberians
@@DameOfDiamonds educate yourself
In this video you see a glimpse of the real reason why Japan became so successful : Openness to learning. It is the willingness of the Japanese society and people to change and adapting the old that lead to it becoming a prosperous nation. Even though it took them till the Meiji restoration to fully modernise, you can witness the initial enthusiasm they had during the period discussed in this video.
The Japanese are some of the less willing to be open to anything new, as well as foreign.
@@ClioMako I don't think that's the case in general though. However, I get where you are coming from, for example in the period of the Tokugawa shogunate they closed the ports and shut out foreign influence. However, I made my point to illustrate the fact that the Japanese have for the most part been willing to implement different ideas and practices. Yes you can say they were forced by the Gun ships of Commodore Matthew Perry, but they still made the choice to change in the end through their own volition. Give an explanation to your claim that the Japanese are not open, if you wish.
LagiNaLangAko23 Either way, they chose to embrace westernization, and that is the main reason Japan was already a quite powerful country in the early 20th century.
It is a complicated story. While following the politics of sakoku (self isolation) for more than 200 years, Japanese people were eager to learn from 'western barbarians'. It was called 'Dutch learning', because Dutch were the only foreigners who were allowed to make some contact with Japanese through their trade post in Nagasaki. From the late 18 century on, the 'Dutch learning' became something like a craze. Dozens of books on various subjects (sciences, arts, technology, medicine, with the exception of Christianity) got translated into Japanese. There were even private academies for the 'Dutch learning'. Of course, this knowledge was mostly limited to upper classes (however, there were even a kind of popular books like 'Everything about western barbarians'). Hence, by 1853 when commodere Perry arrived, a lot of Japanese had at least some idea what they were representing. I don't believe that Japan would have been able to achieve progress after the Meiji restoration without the 'Dutch learning' that basically prepared Japanese. It was very different from the Chinese mentality whereby 'There is no light beyond the Sun, there is no source of knowledge beyond China' was seen as principle.
@@ClioMako They used to be, and they fought reactionary and traditionalist forces in the Meiji restoration to do so.
Sure they are reactionary now, and that's why they are not as relevant. Reactionary and right wing politics destroys civilizations by making people jerk off to an idolized past instead of doing anythinf actually useful. They were crushed then, they must be crushed now
Portuguese trader: "So yeah, this is a pretty easy weapon for anyone to use really. No need for years of training."
Japanese royal: "SIMPLY BARBARIC."
The Japanese loved guns. This idea they considered them "dishonourable" is Hollywood/Anime crap.
@@MustardSkaven Indeed, there is even martial art tradition dedicated to shoot gun. It's called Hojutsu. I believe the gun's kata have been used to train pistol shooting skill because it can give you 360 degree awareness.
Fun fact: Tanegashima would later become the main launch site of JAXA, the Japanese space agency.
Interesting how that small island has become the forefront of Japanese technology not just once but twice.
*1600's*
Europe: "Hey Japan here's some guns and gunpowder"
Japan: "Thanks we'll use these."
Japan: " actually know what, we don't like them or you so goodbye"
*1853*
America: "Hey Japan we want to trade with you"
Japan: "No!"
America: "I don't think you understand." *points gunboats* "we want to trade with you"
Japan: "Ok"
"OPEN. THE COUNTRY. STOP HAVING IT BE CLOSED"
They kept using guns, though. They just kicked the Europeans out.
@@Pomlithe Tokugawa Shogunate opened a port(probably in Satsuma domain, I forgot) to let Dutch & Portuguese(and only them) in. They also forbid them to preach Christianity.
Or drop a nuke lol 😂
@@fadhilnugraha195 it was actually called Dejima and it was located in Nagasaki! And only the Dutch were allowed to trade here, this was from 1641 till 1854. The portugese being officially banned from 1639 onwards made the dutch the only western country to have contact with the japanese during this time.
"The many ways this object can be used in the world cannot possibly be counted..." :/
1: getting a frisbee or basketball off the roof.
@Toxic Male Interestingly that is sort of true, just destroy the whole universe and there will be no more problems in all of existence. Unless of course you consider non-existence a problem, but then again you wouldn't be around to consider it a problem anymore, so sort of true.
@@rogerr.8507 2: Getting a cat unstuck from a tree.
3: Hammering in a nail.
@@rogerr.8507 Opening a bottle of beer.
Portuguese: You know the number 17 player that played for Manchester United?
Japanese: *NANI???*
nice one 😂
Japanese: "Who are these people?"
Chinese: "Just smile at them and nod."
Japanese: "Does that work?"
Chinese: "So far..."
I've been there to Tanegashima, many times. Great surfing there, especially at the beach where the Portuguese ship ran aground. Solid right hand barrel over sand. It's pretty sick. It's not very far from the Japanese rocket launch site, in the very southern tip. Beautiful island.
Looks at Europe Ships,Guns and Cannons
Otomo : "Is it Possible to learn this Power?"
Portuguese : *"Not from Buddhist"*
*Brings Jesus*
"Jesus loved guns..."
Always enjoyed history. But the fine details that were missing always troubled me. History is the people and their stories not just dates and bulk events.
And the underlying socio-economy, that's the most important and hard to grasp aspect of history.
@@LuisAldamiz
Lmao i see you're still obsessed over "muh economics" huh? Bud, there's so much more to the study of Quantifiable Human Histories. Don't get hung up over one set of aspects/facets.
And people say internet is not the place of petty squamble.
As someone who studied TaiChi and Chinese Medicine the firearm demo conversation is pretty entertaining. To rectify the heart in this context seems to have meant to calm yourself and steady your breathing. Which is important for shooting rifles. The lord seems to have understood that closing one eye is related to rectifying the heart. The Portuguese are just trying to tell him to calm down, close one eye and focus on just the target. The emperor is probably educated to tie everything back to his philosophical teachings and keeps doing so.
But its not a rifle. is an arquebus
Interesting that as soon as they saw the power of a gun, they instantly realized a multiple of applications it could be used for.
Súng đó của Đại việt phát minh ra năm 1516, năm 1533 bọn Bồ tới Việt Nam mua súng rồi đem qua nhật bản đó
And to think there are people who want to ban 600 year old technology that has brought so many peoples of earth together. And has shaped so many movements apart. Making knowledge illegal is the fastest way into the next dark age.
You know the first Portugal record of Japanese, "they are naturally intelligent".
@@ToastytheG, you know what else brings people together? A meal, a football games. No needs of guns.
@@bellycurious
easy meal in shooting a deer that happens to also be ravaging your rice
"They show their feelings with no self control" I think this still holds kind of true; being from Guatemala, the time I lived in Europe led me to notice and appreciate the bigger emotional freedom, as I call it, that you have there in terms of expressing and dealing with your emotions in comparison to other cultures.
depends on where in Europe. Britain is rather reserved. Scandinavia even more so, although they aren't shy about the strangest things, going naked in public, but they won't talk to you about their feelings......
Mostly a Southern European thing(Portugal, Spain, Italy, Greece).
No surprise, Guatamalans and the Japanese are still related at the end of the day, it must run in the family.
Great video, I think "propriety" makes more sense than "property" in that context.
Correct, apologies!
Yeah, traders not understanding property would be something hard to put together.
That had me SO confused. I'm also not really sure what they meant by "eating with their hands" utensils weren't uncommon in Europe, so why the traders didn't have any is a bit strange.
@@keegobricks9734 At this point in time forks were used mostly within royal courts and noble families in France and Italy, so even though knifes were used to cut food, it would still be picked by hand.
We Portuguese were poorly perceived by narrator. One could say he thought we just happen to get there, randomly. Instead we were using the stars to guide us, our sailors had immense knowledge in several fields and that's how we roamed the seven seas.
Europeans and East Asians have a lot in common, it’s difficult to not recognise the genius in them both
All humans are similar. Only separated by artificial creations.
Thank you for a historical presentation without moral grandstanding and for presenting an account that acknowledges the importance of remembering the virtues of one's forbears.
Those Japanese paintings depicting the arrival of the Portuguese are amazing. Incredibly vibrant and bright.
Even nowadays Portugal is the most celebrated foreign country in Japan. Theres several festivals celebrating the arrival of the Portuguese, especially in Tanagashima.
Awesome video, highlighting very important historical event. No muskets would probably mean much longer internecine warfare in Japan, because first commander to master use of firearms, namely Oda Nobunaga got so successful he got unification of Japan started.
Thanks!
unification is not a positive thing. Are you Borg?
@@munnypoltric constant warfare is worse
@@munnypoltric Japan is one nation of one people. It would make sense that they exist within one state.
The only exception I can think of is that once Japan was unified (And even to an extent before) the Ainu people of Hokkaido were subjugated under Japanese rule
And the Ainu and the Japanese are not one nation of one people
Very insightful and well written!
Thanks for sharing it
It must have seemed like a very important event to the Japanese being able to acquire firearms from the Portuguese, similar to Prometheus handing mankind fire in Greek mythology.
It pretty much made unifying Japan possible
@Roger Dodger I guess that the Chinese knew the power behind guns and didnt want a potential rival having access to them. Neat info, I totally overlooked that China info.
Apart from cannons (for naval battles and sieges), firearms weren't that overpowered in the 16th century. With the right strategy (like volley fire), it could be deadly, but only like any new weapon until then.
Weirdly, as far as I know the Japanese didn't really use cannons. Just arquebuses. They'll pay it dearly in Korea later (Koreans that used cannons (and won every naval engagement) but not arquebuses... still using bows and stuff).
@mendaix more like Britain and France as China and Japan were only allies because of their shared religion(Buddhism), but their priority was always Korea.
These guns were Vietnamese matchlocks, the Portuguese travelers came to Vietnam in 1533, bought these guns and brought them to Japan.
"Ok, aim small, miss small."
"If one were to focus their inner being and center all their thoughts on that which is most important in the moment, then that stone of soft metal will take your focus with it as it flies through the heavens and deposit itself in the inner workings of that which you wish to destroy in its smallest of hidden places."
this whole channel is amazing
Thank you,
That was an amazing tale, exspecially the introduction of the musket, it must of blown there minds, (not literally), but the musket must of seemed like magic at first until properly understood, the squinting of the eye sounds like it really baffled them, to close ones eye & still hit the target.
Brilliant tale.
Japonese: "the portuguese seem quite harmless"
Portuguese with guns: yeah sure... (starts sweating)
It's fascinating how the Japanese people, unlike most nations that were colonized and conquered by the Europenas, were able to immediately learn the ways of the foreigners and to absorb everything they found useful - and they did it on multiple occasions throughout the history - while retaining their unique ways and lifestyle. This approach not only saved them from being conquered, but turned them into a new superpower and probably the most unique great civilization on the planet. Japan is a brilliant nation!
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East Asians and Europeans are quite comparable interms of intellect, still holds today
Because the Iberians (Spanish and Portuguese) were very different from the g€nocidal of the United Kingdom
@@AbelPeña2067 Millions of slaughtered native Americans would beg to differ... The English just found more long-term success in committing genocides and stealing foreign treaasures, but the Spanish and the Portuguese were equally cruel and greedy.
Lol. Japan is a US vassal currently.
Mostly harmless...
Mostly harmless... until the Nossa Senhora da Graça incident in 1610 in which the Japanese saw firsthand that the Portuguese would rather die than surrender.
GGmygoodman that infact turned out to be a lie.
I love how no one got the reference and instead it just spiraled into an angry argument over nonsense.
@@Yallan good bye and thanks for the fish
@Steing Groburf - Which former enemies? The US of A?
"The people of old said, if the virtuous achievements of the forebears are not made clear to the world, the descendants are to blame."
Wise words. To bad, we have many idiots today in the western countries who do not understand this.
Millenials are to blame
Aggressive Tubesock as if other cultures haven’t committed heinous crimes, pay attention man, every culture at one point or another had some slavery. Save deep amazonian tribes or inuits. White people were doing what every culture did back in those days, conquering. We just happened to do it the best, and had some of the best technology around at the time. Look further into this, don’t just go with the common leftist theory of “white man bad!” All people bad. You can’t demonize one race over the next. Muslims and jews were the biggest slavers back in ancient times. Don’t forget African kings that sold their own people to europeans and middle easterners. Think about all the amazing technology and life saving medicines we have today thanks to western civilization. Not everything is black and white! They want us divided man! Peace upon you.
C V who raised millenials🤫🤫
@Aggressive Tubesock You don't even know what is my nationality and who my ancestors were you moron. I wonder what is your ethnicity? I'm pretty sure I could tell you some interesting stuff about your ancestors. You sound like a parody of sjw. Who are already a parody themselves.
Aggressive Tubesock Lmao all humans does that from practicing slavery, homophobia and genocide.
Eu sou uma pessoa do Japão. O povo japonês tem grande respeito pelo Infante D. Henrique.
Portuguese leader: I'm a *christian, de Mota* is my name.
Japanese man: Kirishita Demota, was his name.
Really cool. You should do Fernão Mendes Pinto's account of the contact, he was one of the first Portuguese in Japan, if we are to believe his writings.
Fascinating. Thanks for this.
"Tokitaka's interest lay neither in the wooden stock nor in the ornament, but in the way the weapon could be used in times of war."
At first I thought this sentence perfectly described why this dude was the dude in charge of the area, but apparently he was only 15 years old at the time. I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that this was a particularly cut-throat period of Japanese history where this kind of pragmatism is either so integral for those that want to stay rulers that even a boy king understands this during his first year of direct rule, or that this is some kind of Japanese Alexander the Great who has already managed to kill off his dad and taken charge at 15 due to impatience.
His territory was taken by some warlords who basically wanted to become the next Daimyo. If you read the commentary of the text, not long after his first batch of successful musket reproduction he basically reconquer his lost island.
www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:789497/FULLTEXT01.pdf
"they show their feelings without self control" same
That Chinese philosopher himself probably also didn't know a hell lot about the Portuguese.
The Portuguese guy teaching the Japanese to use the gun sounded like every old wizard teaching the protagonist to use magic.
Thank you, for making this Record🙏
This is oddly wholesome
Love this channel!💘 historic accounts are the best! First perspective! Best perspective!
Hurrah!
As a Portugues , i found this video truly amusing.
As a Dutch person we took your colonies and trading posts.
@@rickrozen2341 That was good my men, but you still lost it to the british. So It was short term victory.
@@rickrozen2341 In Asia yes, but in Brazil you got defeated by the Portuguese, and then the British defeated you in Asia.
@@rickrozen2341 laughing at you in Portuguese and English. Go look for your bicycle.
@@rickrozen2341 you never took anything from the Portuguese crown when you and the English took over Portugal was under the Spanish crown, that being the only reason why you sneaked us. And to be fair most of the work was put in by Indians, not even you. 30 vessels Vs 2 Portuguese ships oh what a glorious day for your country. Lol
What an amazing record and such an interesting story. I have often thought of people's reaction when they first saw firearms and this account is incredibly detailed. I would love more of this kind of account.
Katsu Curry A popular dish was introduced to Japan by the Portuguese. Breaded chicken which originated in Europe along with the curry sauce which the Portuguese sailors adopted in their trades with India.
2:15 I like that he found it necessary to essentially say 'the traders were engaged in trade'.
Scholar: "They've got guns. We could really use those!"
Shogunate: "...nah."
The Shogunate said nah for a good reason. Any warlord could raise a powerful force by conscripting peasants and armed them with muskets. Training them how to use it effectively is far easier than say raising an army trained to use melee weapons and bows. That is why there was a Samurai class in those days. There have to be a bunch of dudes focused in killing using swords and bows and needed time training how to use them. In Europe, where guns were widespread, there were constant warefare for centuries using firearms.
@@tat3179 The Shogunate could have been the ones to monopolize guns. Their lack of wanting to adopt guns is what led to their downfall. Of course we're looking back at the events with hindsight, but the point still stands. Foreign guns are what toppled them. If they hadn't been so isolated, they would have heard about this happening in India and China decades earlier.
@@maxis2k Ultimately, opening up doesn't benefit them and foreign influences are still a risk to them.
@Tuho In the long term, sure. But imagine you are the Shogun. You rule an island archipelago. Barbarians are introducing technologies and ideas in form of Catholicism that would threaten your position of power and the stability of your rule. Those tech and ideas don't benefit you or or rule directly, as your nearest neighbour, China, also practices a close door policy. Why should you open up?
@@tat3179 Umm no they actually did adopt and use guns on a massive scale. it was one of the biggest things that put the Tokagawa Shogunate on top and guns were deployed throughout their civil wars and when invading Korea. The decline in their use happened because there wasent any warfare after the Shogunate secured power and weapons in general were restricted to keep the peace. The romanticiation of the sword and pretending guns werent in wide use was made up much later
"just stand straight and squint bro"
"ah the art of rectifying the heart, the elders have taught it and I do believe I have mastered it. As for squinting, this is perhaps similar to what Lao Tsi said, who teaches that..."
"ok dude erh .. yeah I didn't get any of that, but whatever, just stand still and squint it's pretty easy"
Fascinating to hear the words of people who lived centuries ago. Such a blessing.
Interesting how instantly he recognized the importance of firearms.
Aliens: *land*
Historic Japanese: "Who are these barbarians?"
Aliens: *offer future tech*
Historic Japanese: "Don't get me wrong.. you're still barbarians, but we'll learn of these magic things, that we can't even conceive of at this moment"
Thank you for the story
"If the virtuous achievements of the forebears are not made clear to the world, the descendants are to blame"
- Some Japanese Dude