I absolutely loved Lost Stars, Rootpaw is my son bc I love him to death, and Britstlefrost & Shadowpaw are a'okay! I honestly really hope this theory is true haha
@@themediocremen1128I think they know that but they put Erin hunter there because then it would be longer to write the hole writing team there instead of Erin hunter
The speckled grey tom gazed around, his long blonde her blowing like oak leaves in the breeze. Of course, his shampoo never failed to make his blonde hair special. His eyes then squinted, a smile scored across his face. _”I am back...”_
*Tree, trying to do anything anywhere anyhow:* *Bramblestar's ghost:* A DEAD CAT TOOK OVER MY BODY AND I NEED YOUR HELP *Tree, not even looking up from whatever he's doing:* I thought this was my kid's responsibility now.
@Joe Blow Well, Hawkfrost is in the df for killing Firestar. Ashfur was the one who made sure Firestar got into the trap. He was still alive when Firestar lost one of his lives. He HAS killed a cat, and has attempted to kill three.
Lost Stars was crazy but I couldn’t get enough of it. I read it in a couple of hours. This is a really interesting theory and one I would love to see play out. Perhaps, in the end, Ashfur will finally be sent to the Dark Forest, where he should have gone in the first place imo. Sol could still fit in. He has a sort of connection to Shadowclan and, if we’re going with this theory, perhaps he would be the cat that takes over Tigerstar’s body instead of Darktail. This is presuming that Sol is dead he is pretty old. Sol’s arc ended so abruptly and felt so unfinished that I feel we need some sort of closure.
What if rootpaw's visions is a sign that one of the mountain's is in fact a volcano amd it's going to blow up and erupt ash into the sky? The unsettling mountains.. Or something blocking connections to the spirits of both the Clancats- who's ancestors originated from the Tribes who's ancestors are also blocked? And either darkforest, Sol /Sleekwhisker have more reach to the still living cats? Just a theory?
Page 254: Bramblestar padded across to Squirrelflight and dipped his head toward her. "Greetings," he meowed. "It's good to be with you again." JEE, that sounds so much like Ashfur, like...WOW!
Don't forget, if Ashfur is the cat, which I believe is true, that means he's trying to ruin Squirllflight STILL! He states that Lionblaze, Jayfeather, and Squirlflight are codebreakers, when they did nothing wrong
He may count Squirrelflight taking care of half-clan kits as a code violation, Lionblaze for his brief relationship with Heathertail. No clue about Jayfeather though.
I think this theory makes a lot of sense, having read the book, we can see that connections with Starclan are completely lost, and Shadowpaw didn't get a single message after Bramblestar died. Bristlefrost even hears two senior warriors talking about what would happen if Bramblestar were to lose a life, coming to the conclusion that he would die forever. Reincarnation has happened in the series before with Cinderpelt, except in her case Starclan allowed her to go back. Starclan had no reason to send Ashfur back to life, but he could have very well found a way around it. Besides, the fandom hates Ashfur and thinks he shouldn't be in Starclan. Shaping him into a villain would not be difficult, and would win the approval of the fans. But the real answers lay in the next book Squirrelflight's hope.
With the leader stuff... Darktail:Very likely Mapleshade: I think she has faded away at this point. Mudclaw: It’s shown Omen of the stars that he isn’t Evil anymore. Ashfur: Likely, he needs development after all. Sleekwhisker: Maybe, If she dies in Squirrelflight’s hope it’s likely.
I think mapleshape is just very faint now and I agree with you on mudclaw, it's more likely another dark forest warrior if this theory happens, edit maybe thistclaw or maybe one of the dark forest loyalists that died in the final battle.
kitty mlp, Thistleclaw didn’t die in the great battle and Mapleshade was close to fading away in The Last Hope, and then it was a 1 year+ (Almost 2, maybe) gap to The Apprentices quest, and A vision of shadows arc was About 1 and a half years or more, and then we have the 10 moons gap to Lost Stars, and That book had about 2 moons in it. So I think Mapleshade has faded away, sadly.(She’s my favorite Villian, sorry if I spelt it wrong) Edit: I misunderstood you on the Thistleclaw part, sorry.
@@EllentheGreat_1 i think it is possible she faded but i dont think so because maggottail was I think from when skyclan was still in the old forest,he was just almost invisible by the tim,edit so she could just be that faint.
ishai bi, we only saw Maggottail in The Forgotten Warrior so we don’t know how long he has been in the Dark forest. And Darktail died at the lake, so it wouldn’t be strange for his ghost to be there.
This whole theory is AWESOME! You gave Ashfur a lot more development then in the past. Plus the concept of a soul controlling an different body returning and using for a lot of evil cats is really cool :)
This makes me think of a rumour that I read years ago, back when Oots was still being released. Someone asked Vicky ( I think ) why Scourge wasn't seen in the dark forest and she replied saying that "they were hoping to reincarnate him at some point the writing team didn't want him in the battle". Maybe this is what was she was speaking about but its been changed to possession instead of reincarnation. Perhaps he is going to possess one of the other leaders?
Me : Oh, a theory Spoilers for Lost Stars Me : Well.......I can take a bit of spoilers *about 10 spoilers in the first 2 minutes of the video* Me : NOPE, NOT TODAY!
Dude I can literally just image Ashfur and all these other Dark Forest Cats fighting over who they want to possess and Ashfur is trying to tell them to calm them down. Lmao
I agree! Just one modification for the AshFur and Code breaker thing. The code breaker he is against could also be HollyLeaf even though she is dead. HollyLeaf broke the code when killing him.
I always wanted ashfur to come back tbh I’m pretty sure that the “strange cat” is probably someone from the dark forest but thats just me Ur theory seems legit tho
Yeah, about that. The mystery ghost cat Shadowpaw talks to has been keeping tabs on everyone alive(i.e. including Lionblaze and Jeyfeather who broke the warrior code by leaving camp to hunt down a fox as kits). He's got an extreme case of Hollyleaf Syndrome and might be molding Shadowpaw into something similar to himself(an evil protagonist who's also a medicine cat would be great). He also asks him if he's a strong cat and is able to carry out his instructions as if testing his worth. He also appears to be pretty sarcastic/mocking, something I can't see Ashfur doing. This spirit isn't a Starclan cat because A) a Starclan cat couldn't cut off Starclan's connection because said cat wouldn't be able to reach the living world and B) in Chapter 15, Shadowpaw notes that his codebreaker vision DIDN'T come with a seizure. His seizures usually come with Starclan visions so that little bit of info is extremely important. Bramblestar's possessor might be the same cat but that'd have to mean he's much more powerful than Starclan and the Dark Forest combined. It was mentioned in one of the previous books that there were different "skies" for non-clan cats to go to when they died. He might come from one of said skies but that's a wee bit of a stretch since we haven't seen any other evil dead cats besides those from the Dark Forest. However, in my honest opinion, it seems like the new villain isn't entirely evil seeing how he ditches his mocking attitude for a more assuring tone when Shadowpaw fearfully asks if there was any way they could help Bramblestar's illness and so far only wants all the clans to uphold the warrior code, albeit strictly. For now, I'm labelling him as "Morally Grey" and somewhat affably evil towards Shadowpaw. His interest in the latter really caught my attention since Shadowpaw's the only cat who's had seizures with visions since he was kit. I'm hoping Mystery Cat takes him under his wing and influences him to be a strict code keeper like himself. That'd be cool.
I thought Tigerclawstar possessed Bramblestar, but this actually makes more sense. Also did anyone else notice Millie missing from the Thunderclan list in the beginning of the book?
Me; - Slowly tries to respect Ashfur for taking over Bramblestar’s body to manipulate Squirrelflight - Me; - Slaps Number 1 favorite badge on Ashfur - Edit; He better have blonde hair-
At the beginning, when you pointed out the part on the prologue. I saw a deeper meaning to that quote. 'Long as the Clans survive'. I think that is a little suspicious. Considering the two visions Shadow'paw had, it sounds..odd. Also! I have a theory on why whoever the ghost cat is choose Shadow'paw. It hinted to knowing some of the cats, yes? If he told the other medicine cats, they would surely recognize them. Just a few lil theories.
If the strange voice from Shadowpaw's visions is gone in the next upcoming books, then we can tell that Ashfur taking over Bramblestar's body might be true.
I watched your video on how Bramblestar was dead and the part where he "acted oddly" in The Silent Thaw. Ashfur taking over his body makes so much sense now
I just finished reading Squirrelflights Hope, and since she wants kits so badly, while Bramblestars dosent, I feel like he's going to use Bramblestars body to finally have kits with her, like he always wanted
I agree with this alot :^ Including, in the newest book, The Silent Thaw, " Bramblestar" is totally obsessed with Squirrelflight being by his side every minute of the day, he even makes Bristlefrost sort the patrols to keep Squirrelflight near him, hes basically making Bristlefrost bear the weight of his job and manipulating her to point out the codebreakers, this also leads to cats getting angry at Bristle frost which I don't think is ok >:V
Also to add on in the end of the book, i recalled rootpaw seeing a spirit wondering in his territory so that could be a good chance of being Bramblestar's spirit
Honestly I really hope your right Ashfur is by far my favourite villian and the plot about him and the fire seen was one of my favourites in the series.
I would totally agree 100% with Ashfur. He still appears angry as in sign of the moon (I think) and clearly I guess had madder thoughts than he had when he was alive. Maybe it took him time to get his thoughts together before he possibly possessed Bramblestar. It could also be why Hollyleaf might have to do with the Broken code. If it is really him, Bramblestar must have that blonde hair, Im surprised nobody noticed yet.
Instead of Darktail, Thistleclaw would make more sense since he didn't get to become leader because of Bluestar who had forbidden romance, kits, and wanted to be deputy anyways.
@Alyssa Bryan he doesn't hate bramblestar. obviously, he wasn't exactly best friends after he and squirrelflight became mates, but he explicitly stated that he had no quarrel with bramblestar, only squirrelflight.
Eeeeeeee. This sounds like suuuch a good theory!!!!! I can’t wait to see what happens. Lock the doors and close the blinds, we’re going for a ride, fandom! However, I’m not sure Mapleshade will be one of the cats on Ashfur’s team cuz her spirit was killed by Spottedleaf’s Spirit. Also, I was thinking that maybe Sol would be the one to try and take over Tigerstar’s body (if he died before The Broken Code), and it would make sense that he would fail taking over Tigerstar’s body because Tigerstar was around when Sol tried to manipulate Blackstar, so he would somehow have some resistance to any of Sol’s plans (and Sol would also have the motivation to do it, since he so badly wanted to mess up the Clans and StarClan).
@@thatmomentwhen345 Oh srry Im only on the second series but Im in the loop with the recent books I didn't know he died XD It must have been so painful for Yellowfang to have to kill him a second time! Poor her.
Hear me out. Ashfur got killed by Hollyleaf, a cat that is the product of a half-clan relationship, which is against the warrior code. His mother got killed by a cat that goes against the code too. He even called Bramblestar out about the subject during his deputy ceremony. Yeah, he did break the code with Hawkfrost to try and kill Firestar as well as the Three on a separate occasion, but his intentions were blinded by getting revenge on Squirrelflight, not to mention Firestar used to be a kittypet, which by the code is ridiculed. For me, this clarifies the abolish codebreakers behavior, if this cat does happen to be Ashfur. It's a far stretch tho
Honestly, I think your prediction absolutely SHOULD BE cannon! It would be really cool for a StarClan villain and the thought of a ghost taking over a living person/cats body is really cool in my opinion.
For a bit I thought it was a “evilish” Firestar in Shadowpaws mind because he was mocking about how Bramblestar was grate but he still brought him back to life, he also died from thunder (the cat was sorta “unlocked” from shadowpaw getting struck by lightning, but now the fire seen is for ashfur because you know, it was started by lightning) But I don’t see the Erin’s doing that with firestar. But wouldn’t that be cool? (But i definitely think that Ashfur is now telling him and in bramblestars mind) After bramblestar died I didn’t believe the theory of firestar in shadowpaws head.
Okay, let's make list of all the code breakers:
1) All of them
So true 😂
Lol 😂
@StillOffIntoTheNight Gacha well not really but tigerstar the 1st says that since she was born into 2 clans she's a code breaker
seems right to me
wait...
Why do some people take these joke seriously and be like but wait this cat didn’t do anything it really ruins the joke
Also, Ashfur was jealous of Bramblestar becoming Squirrelflight’s mate
(Then he hated her)
Fox,Cat, And Wolf -Wildgals oh yeah, how did I forget
Fox,Cat, And Wolf -Wildgals but he said he never had a quarrel for him.
Jealous? Bramblestar's father killed Ashfur's mother. He's more than just jealous.
@@SCRUB-hb2jc he says in the book, he never had a problem with bramblestar, but with squirrelflight, which is kinda not beliEvabLE
Asrii it’s believable. Are you saying that to validate the theory djdjdjdndndb
I absolutely loved Lost Stars, Rootpaw is my son bc I love him to death, and Britstlefrost & Shadowpaw are a'okay! I honestly really hope this theory is true haha
PandorasBlox how is he your son?
Mxpx1112 _ it means she loves him, so that’s your problem.
Sage Wolf ;D
shadowpaw is my precious child don't hurt him
Beans nobody won’t :3
So do we call Bramblestar Ashstar now?
Nyan Cat1304
Ash/Bramble/ star
Ashstar sounds cool! I was kinda thinking of Brashstar, but that sounds weirder doesn't it?
@@sun_drop7823 Yeah but it might make a good name if Rootpaw somehow becomes leader
@@frankenstein2758 How?
@@sun_drop7823 Because he's bold and BASH sorry I'm not funny
Ashfur's Epic Plan:
If Squirrelflight loves Bramblestar, *_become_* Bramblestar.
Ivelina Angelova yes lol
Lol
Yeah it’s big brain time
No one deserves Squirrelflight
That’s what I think will happen
Imagine Erin Hunter on UA-cam:
"What are you doing?"
Erin: "Getting ideas for the next Warriors book"
Vera
Best comment ever
I can definitely envision that
You know that Erin Hunter isn’t a real person right? Erin Hunter is a Pseudonym
@@themediocremen1128I think they know that but they put Erin hunter there because then it would be longer to write the hole writing team there instead of Erin hunter
@@spottedheart5942 true lol
When he returns, I will ask him for his shampoo.
he has no shampoo
@@moonowo He does though. If you watch Moonkitti you'd get it.
Same lmao
Ashfur said doesn’t use shampoo. He licks himself like all cats
darkstripe r/woosh
Lost Stars??? Please help me find them.
Ashfur... Your long blonde hair is so beautiful that I must think about 24/7
I hope the Erins mention his hair
YASS
Angela Lalo _h e c k y e s_
The speckled grey tom gazed around, his long blonde her blowing like oak leaves in the breeze. Of course, his shampoo never failed to make his blonde hair special. His eyes then squinted, a smile scored across his face.
_”I am back...”_
Too bad they probably won't because it would ruin the realism
CosmicCookie 34 omg After reading that... I can die now I’ve completed everything I needed to XD
Me at Spoiler Alert at beginning: okay it can't be that much
Me at "StarClan is completely gone": *_GOODNESS_*
I was like: FINALLY! My evil cats can have control now!
Tbh, I just like Dark Forest cats much more than StarClan
Wow were going to see more blond hair
Oh *yes*
Interesting I didn't notice all these hints about Ashfur's return
Awesome video as always!!!
ASHFUR ASHFUR ASHFUR ASH- oh.. spoilers for lost stars... GODDAMMT
Frostwing
LEAFPOOL DIES
@@cinderleaves3949 I'm so sad why did she have to die? 😭
Alexa EAHlover
Dont ask me
However, Squirrelflight?
She must be traumatized
Nicole Ferrari Mothwing now belives in StarClan because her girlfriend died
Cloudy' Heart
XD
You just gaved the ending speech of the "Poor thing" Ashfur and Hollyleaf map a whole new meaning and I freaking love it
Dxgger .__ RIGHT
I can already see the MAPS and PMVS on this.
Also I’m calling it SquirrelFlight kills BrambleStar because of the ghost in him
OH, I was really stupid lmao. I thought you meant TigerCLAW not TigerHeartStar cuz I was like "he’s dead and not coming back lol"
Omg same XD
Uh, do u even know wut lmao means?
NinjaPandaGirl they probably do, they used it correctly if that's a thing :/
NinjaPandaGirl
Uh I can confirm that I do and I was making fun of myself lol
*Tree, trying to do anything anywhere anyhow:*
*Bramblestar's ghost:* A DEAD CAT TOOK OVER MY BODY AND I NEED YOUR HELP
*Tree, not even looking up from whatever he's doing:* I thought this was my kid's responsibility now.
Baramle star with blue eyes looks like hawk frost
I miss that guy with long eyelashes
YESS I THINK ASHFUR POSSESED BRAMBLESTAR FOR SURE
oH mY GOD IT'S me109308 from Scratch :0
Emily Monahan hi
@@the_girlguy it's been so long :3 nice to see you again
Emily Monahan you too
@@the_girlguy i looked at some of your videos, they're really good! i just started using flipaclip
so ashfur might end up In the dark forest maybe... well idk yessssss MAPLESHADE
edit:omg this is the most likes I got!!!!!!!
He never actually killed anyone.. Hollyleaf did... so he doesn't deserve
@@joeblow5244 well he trying to do some crazy things sooo.Also thistleclaw did not kill anyone either
@@joeblow5244 he did tho. Firestar lost a life to the fox trap the following morning after Hawkfrost's death.
I thought mapleshade died, (for the second time) in the last hope.
@Joe Blow Well, Hawkfrost is in the df for killing Firestar. Ashfur was the one who made sure Firestar got into the trap. He was still alive when Firestar lost one of his lives. He HAS killed a cat, and has attempted to kill three.
Lost Stars was crazy but I couldn’t get enough of it. I read it in a couple of hours.
This is a really interesting theory and one I would love to see play out. Perhaps, in the end, Ashfur will finally be sent to the Dark Forest, where he should have gone in the first place imo.
Sol could still fit in. He has a sort of connection to Shadowclan and, if we’re going with this theory, perhaps he would be the cat that takes over Tigerstar’s body instead of Darktail. This is presuming that Sol is dead he is pretty old. Sol’s arc ended so abruptly and felt so unfinished that I feel we need some sort of closure.
Who remembers Ashfur, the original? The one who helped Firepaw? In Into The Wild?
What if rootpaw's visions is a sign that one of the mountain's is in fact a volcano amd it's going to blow up and erupt ash into the sky?
The unsettling mountains.. Or something blocking connections to the spirits of both the Clancats- who's ancestors originated from the Tribes who's ancestors are also blocked?
And either darkforest, Sol /Sleekwhisker have more reach to the still living cats?
Just a theory?
Okay so if literally any part of this theory is correct Broken Code might end up being my favorite arc LOL
Oh boy I bet you’re having a great time 😂😂😂😂
you know what I went to the bookstore and I saw lost stars but hardback O THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE PAPERBACK
Buy it then sell it since the book is new, people SHOULD want to buy it, or sit at libraries forever
Omg! Ashfurs returning?! Omg omg omg! This next book will be lit if he does return
This just makes me think why so many dark forest cats went there for petty reasons like a broken leg, but Ashfur is in Starclan!?
Mmmm, tell my why Mudclaw is in StarClan again?
it will be SOOO interesting if ashfur comes back tbh!!! maybe something will happen to squirrelflight because of him
Noooooooooooooooooooooo
❤️Bramblestar X Squrrielflight❤️
But plot twist Hollyleaf comes back from the dead and comes back to finish the job XD
Yes, that would actually be really cool
Yes please!
Yas!!!!! And then gets to be with Fallen Leaves.
That would be the BEST!!
Wolf Mask yeah but ashfur would beat her
Moonkitty will be SO happy
with and I!!!!
lol it's fine
He will come back for REVENGE!
1 view and 13 likes
What the frick youtube
Chimerette Yea, that's weird, one person can't like a video 13 times
UA-cam GET IT RIGHT!
It's a good theory, though I think it's a bit yandere if it was true XD
Page 254:
Bramblestar padded across to Squirrelflight and dipped his head toward her. "Greetings," he meowed. "It's good to be with you again."
JEE, that sounds so much like Ashfur, like...WOW!
Yes, it MUST be Ashfur if it says that. Im only on power of three though, so ill have to wait!
Yellowfang did an oopsie
BLUESTAR made an oopsie
Starclan did a big ol' oopsie
Guess the StarClan council is having a chat now in Ashfur's old cells
Helena The Weird One probably
Don't forget, if Ashfur is the cat, which I believe is true, that means he's trying to ruin Squirllflight STILL! He states that Lionblaze, Jayfeather, and Squirlflight are codebreakers, when they did nothing wrong
He may count Squirrelflight taking care of half-clan kits as a code violation, Lionblaze for his brief relationship with Heathertail. No clue about Jayfeather though.
@ishai bi how tf would he know that?
@ishai bi probably thinks giving herbs to other clans?
I wish it wasn’t Ashfur and I wish the Erins gave Ashfur a mate.
Same
Why?
I think bringing Ashfur back makes a lot of narrative sense given the themes of Lost Stars
It's possible that Ashfur is Ivypool and Dovewing father bc they don't look like Birchfall
@Nightcloud The Protective Mother I know he didn't
I think this theory makes a lot of sense, having read the book, we can see that connections with Starclan are completely lost, and Shadowpaw didn't get a single message after Bramblestar died. Bristlefrost even hears two senior warriors talking about what would happen if Bramblestar were to lose a life, coming to the conclusion that he would die forever. Reincarnation has happened in the series before with Cinderpelt, except in her case Starclan allowed her to go back. Starclan had no reason to send Ashfur back to life, but he could have very well found a way around it. Besides, the fandom hates Ashfur and thinks he shouldn't be in Starclan. Shaping him into a villain would not be difficult, and would win the approval of the fans. But the real answers lay in the next book Squirrelflight's hope.
This makes sense. PLEASE MAKE SQUIRRELSTAR I LOAF
Im from the future and Squirrelstar is here.
I really hope it's Ashfur. Someone had a theory that it's Tigerstar AGAIN. If it's OG Tigerstar again, I'm giving up on the series for good
1:04
tigerstar and brambleclaw : Let's not make eye Contact while fighting
With the leader stuff...
Darktail:Very likely
Mapleshade: I think she has faded away at this point.
Mudclaw: It’s shown Omen of the stars that he isn’t Evil anymore.
Ashfur: Likely, he needs development after all.
Sleekwhisker: Maybe, If she dies in Squirrelflight’s hope it’s likely.
I think mapleshape is just very faint now and I agree with you on mudclaw, it's more likely another dark forest warrior if this theory happens, edit maybe thistclaw or maybe one of the dark forest loyalists that died in the final battle.
kitty mlp, Thistleclaw didn’t die in the great battle and Mapleshade was close to fading away in The Last Hope, and then it was a 1 year+ (Almost 2, maybe) gap to The Apprentices quest, and A vision of shadows arc was About 1 and a half years or more, and then we have the 10 moons gap to Lost Stars, and That book had about 2 moons in it. So I think Mapleshade has faded away, sadly.(She’s my favorite Villian, sorry if I spelt it wrong)
Edit: I misunderstood you on the Thistleclaw part, sorry.
@@EllentheGreat_1 i think it is possible she faded but i dont think so because maggottail was I think from when skyclan was still in the old forest,he was just almost invisible by the tim,edit so she could just be that faint.
ishai bi, we only saw Maggottail in The Forgotten Warrior so we don’t know how long he has been in the Dark forest. And Darktail died at the lake, so it wouldn’t be strange for his ghost to be there.
ishai bi , I think Maggottail has also faded away BTW.
And Darktail got killed by the Clan cats, I think he wants revenge on them >:)
This whole theory is AWESOME! You gave Ashfur a lot more development then in the past. Plus the concept of a soul controlling an different body returning and using for a lot of evil cats is really cool :)
It doesn’t make any sense tho. It’s just a fan theory and hopefully the Erins would write something better and less anticlimactic
This makes me think of a rumour that I read years ago, back when Oots was still being released. Someone asked Vicky ( I think ) why Scourge wasn't seen in the dark forest and she replied saying that "they were hoping to reincarnate him at some point the writing team didn't want him in the battle". Maybe this is what was she was speaking about but its been changed to possession instead of reincarnation. Perhaps he is going to possess one of the other leaders?
Me : Oh, a theory
Spoilers for Lost Stars
Me : Well.......I can take a bit of spoilers
*about 10 spoilers in the first 2 minutes of the video*
Me : NOPE, NOT TODAY!
Also, this video is very interesting... I'm not all the way caught up with the books... but I'm shook by this new book.
I REALLY hope this series stays strong! I've heard that Lost Stars was pretty good, so they better not botch it up. We need more good series!
Dude I can literally just image Ashfur and all these other Dark Forest Cats fighting over who they want to possess and Ashfur is trying to tell them to calm them down. Lmao
I agree! Just one modification for the AshFur and Code breaker thing. The code breaker he is against could also be HollyLeaf even though she is dead. HollyLeaf broke the code when killing him.
I really hope this is true because Ashfur is my favourite ever!!!! Im so exited!!! I love this theory so much!
I always wanted ashfur to come back tbh
I’m pretty sure that the “strange cat” is probably someone from the dark forest but thats just me
Ur theory seems legit tho
Yeah, about that. The mystery ghost cat Shadowpaw talks to has been keeping tabs on everyone alive(i.e. including Lionblaze and Jeyfeather who broke the warrior code by leaving camp to hunt down a fox as kits). He's got an extreme case of Hollyleaf Syndrome and might be molding Shadowpaw into something similar to himself(an evil protagonist who's also a medicine cat would be great). He also asks him if he's a strong cat and is able to carry out his instructions as if testing his worth. He also appears to be pretty sarcastic/mocking, something I can't see Ashfur doing.
This spirit isn't a Starclan cat because A) a Starclan cat couldn't cut off Starclan's connection because said cat wouldn't be able to reach the living world and B) in Chapter 15, Shadowpaw notes that his codebreaker vision DIDN'T come with a seizure. His seizures usually come with Starclan visions so that little bit of info is extremely important.
Bramblestar's possessor might be the same cat but that'd have to mean he's much more powerful than Starclan and the Dark Forest combined. It was mentioned in one of the previous books that there were different "skies" for non-clan cats to go to when they died. He might come from one of said skies but that's a wee bit of a stretch since we haven't seen any other evil dead cats besides those from the Dark Forest.
However, in my honest opinion, it seems like the new villain isn't entirely evil seeing how he ditches his mocking attitude for a more assuring tone when Shadowpaw fearfully asks if there was any way they could help Bramblestar's illness and so far only wants all the clans to uphold the warrior code, albeit strictly. For now, I'm labelling him as "Morally Grey" and somewhat affably evil towards Shadowpaw. His interest in the latter really caught my attention since Shadowpaw's the only cat who's had seizures with visions since he was kit. I'm hoping Mystery Cat takes him under his wing and influences him to be a strict code keeper like himself. That'd be cool.
Ashfur, no!!! Don't do this!! I thought you accepted Hollyleaf's apology in StarClan!!!
He accepted Hollyleaf's, not Suirrelflight's :D
LOL I-I mean... R.I.P (Nervously chuckles)
As much as unlikely it is to be cannon, I really hope this becomes a thing. It's so well thought out and smart
Bramblebutt got his butt kicked out of his body
okay that was weirder then I intended
OMGOMGOMGOMG!! SCREECH! This makes so much sense and I REALLY hope it comes true!
At the beginning: how crazy can these books get?
5 minutes in: ok, this is getting ridiculous.
I thought Tigerclawstar possessed Bramblestar, but this actually makes more sense.
Also did anyone else notice Millie missing from the Thunderclan list in the beginning of the book?
Tigerheartstar died?
@@peachtea7269 i never said anything about him. I said Tigerclawstar. Tigerheartstar is still alive.
@@Garnet107_ I'm a idiot.
Out of all the warriors theories, this HAS to be the best.
I finished this book YESTERDAY
Me; - Slowly tries to respect Ashfur for taking over Bramblestar’s body to manipulate Squirrelflight -
Me; - Slaps Number 1 favorite badge on Ashfur -
Edit; He better have blonde hair-
Even tho we can't confirm ur theory, we all defiantly know Ashfur is now up to something.
At the beginning, when you pointed out the part on the prologue. I saw a deeper meaning to that quote. 'Long as the Clans survive'. I think that is a little suspicious. Considering the two visions Shadow'paw had, it sounds..odd. Also! I have a theory on why whoever the ghost cat is choose Shadow'paw. It hinted to knowing some of the cats, yes? If he told the other medicine cats, they would surely recognize them. Just a few lil theories.
If the strange voice from Shadowpaw's visions is gone in the next upcoming books, then we can tell that Ashfur taking over Bramblestar's body might be true.
I just finished the book today! This theory is awesome!
‘Lit a fire in him’ *plays Nothing left but Ashes*
Rad Damaris good Idea me : Heads over to blixemi’s channel but not really i’ll do that tomorrow now I gotta focus on reading this coments
There's this thing going around about Reedwhisker getting his own Super Edition
I watched your video on how Bramblestar was dead and the part where he "acted oddly" in The Silent Thaw. Ashfur taking over his body makes so much sense now
I just finished reading Squirrelflights Hope, and since she wants kits so badly, while Bramblestars dosent, I feel like he's going to use Bramblestars body to finally have kits with her, like he always wanted
Me usually:
Spoilers? Hah! I eat spoilers for breakfast!
Me now:
Hek nope.
Didn’t realize my favorite childhood books had a legit following.
I agree with this alot :^
Including, in the newest book, The Silent Thaw, " Bramblestar" is totally obsessed with Squirrelflight being by his side every minute of the day, he even makes Bristlefrost sort the patrols to keep Squirrelflight near him, hes basically making Bristlefrost bear the weight of his job and manipulating her to point out the codebreakers, this also leads to cats getting angry at Bristle frost which I don't think is ok >:V
*-insert something about Ashfur's hair-*
This is going to be an interesting squirrel flight and Ash fur dynamic.
Hey... Remember that video you made where you said "We've never had a prophecy be wrong before... " The Erin gods were listening....
Me and my sister totally agree with you!We've been thinking very carefully about the clues and we think it's Ashfur as well!
Also to add on in the end of the book, i recalled rootpaw seeing a spirit wondering in his territory so that could be a good chance of being Bramblestar's spirit
Hey I'm early, must make a joke
Do U wAnT wAfFlEs FiReStAr????
Layla The Furry HECK YAAA (the waffles meme and that you’re a furry)
Layla The Furry no please dont
He doesn't know what that is
Nuuuu not the dead memes
That meme is old and unfunny.
If it’s not Ashfur I am going to loose my marbles...
I LOVE this theory
Honestly I really hope your right Ashfur is by far my favourite villian and the plot about him and the fire seen was one of my favourites in the series.
I would totally agree 100% with Ashfur. He still appears angry as in sign of the moon (I think) and clearly I guess had madder thoughts than he had when he was alive. Maybe it took him time to get his thoughts together before he possibly possessed Bramblestar. It could also be why Hollyleaf might have to do with the Broken code. If it is really him, Bramblestar must have that blonde hair, Im surprised nobody noticed yet.
Instead of Darktail, Thistleclaw would make more sense since he didn't get to become leader because of Bluestar who had forbidden romance, kits, and wanted to be deputy anyways.
Great theory, but I thought Ashfur was at peace now
ok so you were right
The thing with this is that Ashfur said he had no quarrel with Bramblestar...what reason would he have for that?
@Alyssa Bryan you do know he said In the books himself right
He also said he wanted to hurt the ones Squirrelflight loved, I can even quote him if you'd like
@Alyssa Bryan he doesn't hate bramblestar. obviously, he wasn't exactly best friends after he and squirrelflight became mates, but he explicitly stated that he had no quarrel with bramblestar, only squirrelflight.
Eeeeeeee. This sounds like suuuch a good theory!!!!! I can’t wait to see what happens. Lock the doors and close the blinds, we’re going for a ride, fandom! However, I’m not sure Mapleshade will be one of the cats on Ashfur’s team cuz her spirit was killed by Spottedleaf’s Spirit. Also, I was thinking that maybe Sol would be the one to try and take over Tigerstar’s body (if he died before The Broken Code), and it would make sense that he would fail taking over Tigerstar’s body because Tigerstar was around when Sol tried to manipulate Blackstar, so he would somehow have some resistance to any of Sol’s plans (and Sol would also have the motivation to do it, since he so badly wanted to mess up the Clans and StarClan).
I know what darktail could want, he didn’t succeed in destroying shadowclan because when rowanstar died tiger star became leader and reunited the clan
I agree completely with you're theory! You're a genious!
Gosh how do you predict these things ?!?
After reading The Silent thaw I feel like this is even more of a possibility
I really thought Brokenstar would be the cat to try and take Tigerstars body for obvious reasons but if this happens I will officially love Ashfur!
Brokenstar was erased from existence in Last Hope by Yellowfang
Literally
@@thatmomentwhen345 Oh srry Im only on the second series but Im in the loop with the recent books I didn't know he died XD
It must have been so painful for Yellowfang to have to kill him a second time! Poor her.
Did leafpool die because in the list of cats I never saw leafpool in the list
OH MY GOOOODDD PLEAAAASEEE brUh I would love for Ashfur to come back. Now I wanna do a animation
Hear me out. Ashfur got killed by Hollyleaf, a cat that is the product of a half-clan relationship, which is against the warrior code. His mother got killed by a cat that goes against the code too. He even called Bramblestar out about the subject during his deputy ceremony. Yeah, he did break the code with Hawkfrost to try and kill Firestar as well as the Three on a separate occasion, but his intentions were blinded by getting revenge on Squirrelflight, not to mention Firestar used to be a kittypet, which by the code is ridiculed. For me, this clarifies the abolish codebreakers behavior, if this cat does happen to be Ashfur. It's a far stretch tho
Honestly, I think your prediction absolutely SHOULD BE cannon! It would be really cool for a StarClan villain and the thought of a ghost taking over a living person/cats body is really cool in my opinion.
Am i the only one who thinks of Hawkfrost whenever Bramblestar has Ashfurs eyes?
For a bit I thought it was a “evilish” Firestar in Shadowpaws mind because he was mocking about how Bramblestar was grate but he still brought him back to life, he also died from thunder (the cat was sorta “unlocked” from shadowpaw getting struck by lightning, but now the fire seen is for ashfur because you know, it was started by lightning) But I don’t see the Erin’s doing that with firestar. But wouldn’t that be cool? (But i definitely think that Ashfur is now telling him and in bramblestars mind) After bramblestar died I didn’t believe the theory of firestar in shadowpaws head.
...this makes too much sense, and I love it...!
Ha! There was an ice breakers ad before this video
If this theory is correct, the Broken Code is gonna be fricken awesome
FRICKING AWESOME! Can't wait to see!
Woah it’s me again
I stand by this statement
It's been good so far. Political thriller and supernatural horror.