Solar systems, particularly the panels 'just work', year after year. The equipment (charge controllers, inverters, etc) is electrical and wears out but can be replaced and it's good to plan for this to ease the situation as it will happen within 5-10yrs?. However, overall, my solar system is the lowest maintenance system I have in my life / around my home and I just love that about solar. A vehicle is way more trouble for example :)
Glad to hear things are just working! I was waiting to see how you took care of the DIY packs. That’s a great idea, especially because it takes up a lot less space than the shelving units.
There is indeed, I am just tired of re-doing, re-doing, re-doing. I want to focus on new, and not constantly replacing things. I feel these inverters will the end hopefully. It's all a learning experience though!
Here's info about this inverter on google that you won't find on youtube: "My new EG 6000 was running happily for a couple of weeks until this night the battery ran low and the inverter switched off power supply and threw a 26 Error code on the front panel. Checked the manual, it stated code number 26 to be a "internal fault" and to restart the inverter. So i turned the inverter off and as soon as i turned the battery main fuse back on, with no solar input or juice from the grid, i was greeted by a loud bang with smoke and sparks coming out of the unit. Save to say, that's it, shes dead".
It's amazing how tidy and professional looking your setups always are. From the video, it looks like your cable balance leads are different lengths. Does that cause any issues at all?
One thing you can do that is easy (depending on your router) is disable Internet to the inverter with a click of a button in an app. This doesn’t affect solar system, and if you ever needed to just enable it for Internet, connectivity again was just a click.
How does a inverter know the amp hour of a battery if there's no setting for it? I asked this question because my Inverter and my Victron shunt have two different readings.
You've been busy and having some fun! Any issues using SOK with EG? I have some Lifepower 4 batteries, what if i added some SOK? Communication issues? I didn't see SOK on the battery compatibility chart either
I am not planning to use any communications from the inverters to the rack batteries. I will be setting up communications from the inverters to the Batrium at some point, but that has not happened yet. No issues either way. I programmed settings in the inverters that satisfy the rack battery requirements.
Enjoying your videos. Your installations are beautiful....very professional. You indicated that EG4 did or could push out a firmware update to provide encryption and password protection on there app. Called this morning and they quickly pushed my call to the distributor....Signature Solar in my case. Bottom line, they know nothing about a firmware update that provides this fix. Thoughts on how I can get this update?
Nice update. I have been looking at the 6000xp as a possible simplification of my Victron system, but since I am in a restricted subdivision, all of my panels are "hidden from street view" and therefore not optimized for orientation since the house faces south and the panels can't. So efficiency is important to me. I have 2400w of PV and averaged about 7 kWh/day in July and August in SE Michigan... not horrible under the circumstances. To make this all worthwhile I chose Victron in hopes to minimize losses. My average total loss per day for these two months was ~900w, or 38w/hr. Looking at your data, it appears that you are losing about 4.2kWh/day, or 175w/hr. Is that correct? Do you know where most of the loss is? Is this just a consequence of having a larger system?
great video, but quick question, how do u charge all of the batteries with the 6000xp ? u cant communicate wit ht battery because u have diff vendors so how do u program both 6000xp to charge the verity of your diff batteries ? thank you
Wondering the same thing. The com cable is constantly adjusting charging amperage depending on SOC. Sometimes 150a sometimes 30A (90%+) which is integral for extending battery life ... I never fully understood the Nexus between the inverter and the BMS via the com cable until the eg4 Monitor software. Now I'm seeing the power of the com cable. @amio_roseto1
@@gdegarimore You're spot on here with the ramped charging. It's in the plans, with the Batrium being the control point for the entire system rather than the rack batteries managing it. Eventually though you reach a point where your battery bank is so large, it matters less and less.
You prefer S.A. over the eg4 dongle data?? I feel like the desktop software for the eg4 monitor has waaay more data... I had SA on my 6000ex, and was planning to go to my XP until I saw the eg4 monitor and found it much more robust.
No, I wouldn't word it that way exactly. It's more a matter of me preferring my data remain local and my critical systems to remain off the internet. I consider a piece of equipment controlling a giant lithium battery to be "critical". To be clear, I am not saying there is anything wrong with the EG4 platform. It's matter of preference (and paranoia).
@LithiumSolar gotcha! I loved my SA until the onboard storage died and I had to flash and install a sd card. I like the pretty graphs and fully planned on installing it on my brand new xp upgrade from the EX. But once I started using the eg4monitor I found I didn't need the the SA anymore.
How are you keeping that cool without a mini split heat pump. I have a 9000 BTU for Fujitsu 33 SEER on mine and keep it at 64° all the time. Electronics last a whole lot longer that way.
64??? Man, ambient temp in here is in the high 90's some days. I need a ventilation fan really. Right now I manually open the door lol. It won't be a mini-split though.
@@john_in_phoenix my 180kWh - 13 ea diy batteries with JK bms’s have been doing good for 2.5 yrs. I’m an hvac guy so my work van has 1620W of REC panels on top, Gree 22 SEER 9000 BTU with outdoor unit shell/coil/fan underneath blowing down. I keep it at 68F along with my house and shop. I love it cold, especially when it’s 100% powered by the sun.
@@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity Yes, mine have done well since 2019. My testing also indicates the battery cells perform better at the "just right" temperature. 64 isn't bad, it's just not ideal.
Plan to build small size home solar system with 1) EG4 6000XP Off-Grid Inverter (single module) 2) SERVER RACK with 5 x EG4® LL-S 48V 100Ah (total of ~ 20 kWh) Do not plan to grow the system. Consider two options to place the equipment Option #1, Buy metal container OR Option #2, Use space in one of my bedrooms Inclined to choose Option #2, but have concerns about safety (fire hazard) placing high power equipment in the house. Are my concerns valid or not based on your experience? Thanks
They are connected in a perfectly acceptable way with cable that is plenty thick. I'm not sure the reasons for it being bad with EG4's. I would need more information on that.
How is this economically feasible? Seems like you’d never break even. So is the purpose to not be dependent on the grid or to reduce environmental impact (despite all that went into those batteries)?
@@LithiumSolar Works for me. Now I’ll have a better understanding of your point of view & motivation moving forward. Good luck & thanks for the content!
I'd like to know if one can disable the ssid broadcast on these 6000xp & the big brother 12000xp ? That's not a good thing to broadcast if power is out for everyone in a bad event. Also emitting contunious useless rf is not good for anyone's health.
does anyone think this inverter would be a bad idea for a moving vehicle? like an RV, skoolie, Van, etc.? I have not seen any videos of this inverter in a moving vehicle, why is that?
Not having any type of encryption on a power backup system is definitely a HUGE problem. They don’t even give you the option unless you ask for it?!!! Man that’s a huge turn off
Come back in 2 years when these low cost (cheap) high frequency transformerless inverters experiences theit first major catastrophic failure or when it has smoked your EV's onboard charger and tell us all about it.
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I love this comment since you can see plywood behind him just imagine him in his plywood spaceship 😂
"They just work" is the best praise you can give, especially for solar equipment. Very good update, thanks!
Solar systems, particularly the panels 'just work', year after year. The equipment (charge controllers, inverters, etc) is electrical and wears out but can be replaced and it's good to plan for this to ease the situation as it will happen within 5-10yrs?. However, overall, my solar system is the lowest maintenance system I have in my life / around my home and I just love that about solar. A vehicle is way more trouble for example :)
Glad to hear things are just working! I was waiting to see how you took care of the DIY packs. That’s a great idea, especially because it takes up a lot less space than the shelving units.
It really is the perfect setup. I can probably fit 2 more rows on that shelf!
Good update shows we all need to keep working on our systems there is always something to complete.
There is indeed, I am just tired of re-doing, re-doing, re-doing. I want to focus on new, and not constantly replacing things. I feel these inverters will the end hopefully. It's all a learning experience though!
Good to see you 😊. I also use Solar Assistant and am happy with it. 👍
It is great! I just wish they build it out more, it has so much potential!
@@LithiumSolar I reach out to them about the HDMI output timing out. They did nothing about it 😕
Finally a system update 🙌🙌🔋🔋
The power bill keep going up. Thumbs up 👍 on keeping with it.
More like pg&e needs to be broken up.
Nice setup!!
Here's info about this inverter on google that you won't find on youtube: "My new EG 6000 was running happily for a couple of weeks until this night the battery ran low and the inverter switched off power supply and threw a 26 Error code on the front panel.
Checked the manual, it stated code number 26 to be a "internal fault" and to restart the inverter.
So i turned the inverter off and as soon as i turned the battery main fuse back on, with no solar input or juice from the grid, i was greeted by a loud bang with smoke and sparks coming out of the unit. Save to say, that's it, shes dead".
It's amazing how tidy and professional looking your setups always are. From the video, it looks like your cable balance leads are different lengths. Does that cause any issues at all?
Awsome video. Can you tell me what size the is the wireway. Thks.
It's a 6x6x60" wireway
One thing you can do that is easy (depending on your router) is disable Internet to the inverter with a click of a button in an app. This doesn’t affect solar system, and if you ever needed to just enable it for Internet, connectivity again was just a click.
which bms is connected to eg4 for comms? assuming batrium?
I don't have any of them connected to the EG4. I need to get the Batrium connected for the temperature control, but still haven't set it up.
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How does a inverter know the amp hour of a battery if there's no setting for it? I asked this question because my Inverter and my Victron shunt have two different readings.
You've been busy and having some fun!
Any issues using SOK with EG?
I have some Lifepower 4 batteries, what if i added some SOK? Communication issues? I didn't see SOK on the battery compatibility chart either
I am not planning to use any communications from the inverters to the rack batteries. I will be setting up communications from the inverters to the Batrium at some point, but that has not happened yet. No issues either way. I programmed settings in the inverters that satisfy the rack battery requirements.
Enjoying your videos. Your installations are beautiful....very professional.
You indicated that EG4 did or could push out a firmware update to provide encryption and password protection on there app. Called this morning and they quickly pushed my call to the distributor....Signature Solar in my case. Bottom line, they know nothing about a firmware update that provides this fix. Thoughts on how I can get this update?
Nice update. I have been looking at the 6000xp as a possible simplification of my Victron system, but since I am in a restricted subdivision, all of my panels are "hidden from street view" and therefore not optimized for orientation since the house faces south and the panels can't. So efficiency is important to me. I have 2400w of PV and averaged about 7 kWh/day in July and August in SE Michigan... not horrible under the circumstances. To make this all worthwhile I chose Victron in hopes to minimize losses. My average total loss per day for these two months was ~900w, or 38w/hr. Looking at your data, it appears that you are losing about 4.2kWh/day, or 175w/hr. Is that correct? Do you know where most of the loss is? Is this just a consequence of having a larger system?
great video, but quick question, how do u charge all of the batteries with the 6000xp ? u cant communicate wit ht battery because u have diff vendors so how do u program both 6000xp to charge the verity of your diff batteries ? thank you
They're all the same chemistry, LiFePO4, thus have the same technical specifications even though the manufacturers may advise something different.
@@LithiumSolar So basically you program the inverter to charge based on voltage ?, what are the best setting in this case ? thank you
Wondering the same thing. The com cable is constantly adjusting charging amperage depending on SOC. Sometimes 150a sometimes 30A (90%+) which is integral for extending battery life ... I never fully understood the Nexus between the inverter and the BMS via the com cable until the eg4 Monitor software. Now I'm seeing the power of the com cable. @amio_roseto1
@@amio_roseto1 Yes, and all I can say here is to follow the manufacturer's recommendations :)
@@gdegarimore You're spot on here with the ramped charging. It's in the plans, with the Batrium being the control point for the entire system rather than the rack batteries managing it. Eventually though you reach a point where your battery bank is so large, it matters less and less.
You prefer S.A. over the eg4 dongle data?? I feel like the desktop software for the eg4 monitor has waaay more data... I had SA on my 6000ex, and was planning to go to my XP until I saw the eg4 monitor and found it much more robust.
No, I wouldn't word it that way exactly. It's more a matter of me preferring my data remain local and my critical systems to remain off the internet. I consider a piece of equipment controlling a giant lithium battery to be "critical". To be clear, I am not saying there is anything wrong with the EG4 platform. It's matter of preference (and paranoia).
@LithiumSolar gotcha! I loved my SA until the onboard storage died and I had to flash and install a sd card. I like the pretty graphs and fully planned on installing it on my brand new xp upgrade from the EX. But once I started using the eg4monitor I found I didn't need the the SA anymore.
How are you keeping that cool without a mini split heat pump. I have a 9000 BTU for Fujitsu 33 SEER on mine and keep it at 64° all the time. Electronics last a whole lot longer that way.
The battery cells like the same temperature you do. 74 is better for them.
64??? Man, ambient temp in here is in the high 90's some days. I need a ventilation fan really. Right now I manually open the door lol. It won't be a mini-split though.
@@john_in_phoenix my 180kWh - 13 ea diy batteries with JK bms’s have been doing good for 2.5 yrs. I’m an hvac guy so my work van has 1620W of REC panels on top, Gree 22 SEER 9000 BTU with outdoor unit shell/coil/fan underneath blowing down. I keep it at 68F along with my house and shop. I love it cold, especially when it’s 100% powered by the sun.
@@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity Yes, mine have done well since 2019. My testing also indicates the battery cells perform better at the "just right" temperature. 64 isn't bad, it's just not ideal.
@@john_in_phoenix You are correct. I just like going in there when overheated doing yard work, otherwise I’ll probably would keep it at 72°F. 😁
Plan to build small size home solar system with
1) EG4 6000XP Off-Grid Inverter (single module)
2) SERVER RACK with 5 x EG4® LL-S 48V 100Ah (total of ~ 20 kWh)
Do not plan to grow the system.
Consider two options to place the equipment
Option #1, Buy metal container OR
Option #2, Use space in one of my bedrooms
Inclined to choose Option #2,
but have concerns about safety (fire hazard) placing high power equipment in the house.
Are my concerns valid or not based on your experience? Thanks
😎
I see your batts are not using a bus bar. Are the SOK batts good with that? Seems to be a bad thing with EG4's, not sure if specific to them.
They are connected in a perfectly acceptable way with cable that is plenty thick. I'm not sure the reasons for it being bad with EG4's. I would need more information on that.
You have good ventilation!? Tin foil it too..🎉❤
How is this economically feasible? Seems like you’d never break even. So is the purpose to not be dependent on the grid or to reduce environmental impact (despite all that went into those batteries)?
Primarily 2 things... 1) Hobby 2) Backup power in the event of a grid outage
@@LithiumSolar Works for me. Now I’ll have a better understanding of your point of view & motivation moving forward. Good luck & thanks for the content!
I'd like to know if one can disable the ssid broadcast on these 6000xp & the big brother 12000xp ? That's not a good thing to broadcast if power is out for everyone in a bad event. Also emitting contunious useless rf is not good for anyone's health.
does anyone think this inverter would be a bad idea for a moving vehicle? like an RV, skoolie, Van, etc.? I have not seen any videos of this inverter in a moving vehicle, why is that?
I need to start a channel for free batteries nice set up😅
Or you can just come collect some of mine... 😂
Not having any type of encryption on a power backup system is definitely a HUGE problem. They don’t even give you the option unless you ask for it?!!! Man that’s a huge turn off
They may make the firmware available through the updater tool later. I'm not sure - might still be in development.
@@LithiumSolar do you have the latest FW installed?
I burn through up to 170kwh in a day. Must be nice!
What are you running that's using 170kWh/day? I'm sitting around 50kWh/day right now and that includes the 3-ton AC and a full server rack of "stuff"
Sheesh, for my last bill I didn't even use 170kWh for the whole month!
Plug in a bitcoin miner to soak up unused load in the batteries. Monetize those spare electrons ⚡️ 💰
Miners don't make money
Come back in 2 years when these low cost (cheap) high frequency transformerless inverters experiences theit first major catastrophic failure or when it has smoked your EV's onboard charger and tell us all about it.
Not going to happen!
EG4 will clag out, go for solark