A “hue” means it’s a synthetic version of the original. It may have more than one pigment but not necessarily. Hues often replace expensive pigments like cobalt and cadmiums, but they can also replace fugitive colors with synthetic lightfast colors. At least that’s my understanding of what a hue is. 😘 I love your work and you’ve taught me a lot. Thank you for all your videos. ❤️❤️❤️
Yes, and hues are generally made of more than one pigment and in this case the Holbein Aureolin has three pigments and none of them is the PY40 of Aureolin (Cobalt Yellow) that changes color. Thanks for your feedback. I am glad the videos are helpful.
I think the main reasons paint companies keep known fugitive colours in their ranges are a) because of sales to people who either don’t realise, or are following lazier teachers’ recommendations; and b) for artists who work in sketchbooks or in eventually digital formats (who never display their work in sunlight). It’s interesting that so many lightfast indexes talk of fugitive colours lasting for decades, when anyone who tests paints themselves can see marked fading/discolouration in as little as weeks or months. I’m pleased to see an artist of your stature and experience being principled and open to rethinking fugitive colours. Change is difficult, but it’s a hard enough medium for beginners without having our few successes turn from bright to brown, or fade away altogether!
I think there are many artists that trust the supplies they are using because the quality of the brand and the ASTM board has verified the pigments. I also believe there is a lot of information to learn dealing with watercolor supplies and hopefully the artists that want to sell quality work will learn and adjust their tools where required if something is not up to their standards.
Lorraine, I never got this one because of the fading. I watch Kimberly Crick channel she tests all her watercolors. She has tested DS Moon Glow I believe Shadow Violet too and they have faded. She has mixes that are light fast to match the fugitive colors.
That's good to know about Shadow Violet and Moon Glow. I haven't used Shadow Violet. I will have to test Moon Glow. I have only used it a couple of times, but I won't anymore if it fades.
Yellows can be so tricky especially since we want one that can glaze being the lightest to a bit more towards orange. I put nickel yellow from Qor on my palette for the lightest yellow and I keep a tube of Quinophalone yellow from DS in my box. Azo yellow glazes beautifully, is a bit more deeper as far as single pigments and isn’t as cloudy for mixes but I do keep a medium cadmium in my box. It upset me that most wc companies don’t even explain that Hansa yellow isn’t even considered “great quality” but Hansa deep is. I also swatched many over the years and I don’t really use as many cad yellows unless I am mixing something that needs to be be greyed a bit. I do a lot of botanical painting and have a mixed palette due to so much research. I changed my DS quin rose to Sennelier’s PV19 Rose Madder Lake which is completely lightfast because I noticed how the quin rose dulls down with the drying shift. I still use Hansa yellow deep because it didn’t change at all compared to the lighter version, but do you notice how it is written to confuse artists in each brand? The only other change that I have made recently is that I really love Perylene maroon for branches to flowers,browns and I keep Perylene violet and green on the palette. I have a tube of convenience purple but I still just mix it. We have the same palettes so it is great to have granulating and not granulating coverage without another palette yet I still might mix so many to work through a painting that I love those little flower porcelain mixing dishes. It can be a conundrum for sure. I had been away from painting due to a health issue but am really enjoying it along with pastels, colored pencils and charcoal. Mixed media is a ton of fun also and I know that this was an older post but that is why I wasn’t able to respond. Take care and enjoy painting 😊
Thank you for this video! It was really helpful - I was thinking about buying aureolin and now I know that I shouldn’t :) also I heard that carmine from Holbein can change colour.
Wow, that's a pretty dramatic change. Good to know. I also hadn't thought about the UV protection on window panes altering the testing since my landlady has junky windows in some here & others have been in the cottage since 1925 when it was built & UV protection was non-existent. But I'll for sure keep it in mind if I move out of early 1900s architecture. 😏
@@lorrainewatry_watercolors Rent for our cute little one bedroom shelter in 1935 (we looked at State census) was $35 a month. 😂🤣 Now it's $1,500. The times are changing 🤔
I do my own tests also. I found out that my Daniel Smith "Saturn Red', (PO64) is not very lightfast at all! Daniel Smith rates it as very good. Its not for it faded to almost nothing in a medium to light wash.
Hello there: I hope you see this on time! I have till tomorrow to choose a middle of the road yellow, and since where I live I dont have art stores to help me, I have to buy online! Could you help me? I prefer is from Daniel Smith cause 95 of my palette is Daniel Smith, but I do have some Holbein. Just so I can explain what I need, let me tell you that, as my cool yellow I have Holbein's Imidazolone Lemon and as my warm yellow, I have Indian yellow from Daniel Smith Please help me fix the "gap" between those two! Which yellow can I get that is like a mid yellow, between those two. Something neutral... not greenish, not orangy, just a mid yellow. Something, TRANSPARENT and no granulating. High lightfastness is not an issue, cause I paint in skechbooks, just for me, as a therapeutic aid, and I'm bedbound which makes life hard, yes, BUT, at least, I can still paint in bed and want to be happy about my colors. 😊😊😊 Please help.
Hi, I just saw this so, I hope it's in time. I would probably go with Holbein's Aureolin yellow (which is a hue) or Hansa Medium by Daniel Smith (is just slightly warmer). I hope this helps.
Would you address in one of your videos , problems with framing watercolour paintings, and how to preserve them without spending a huge amount of money.
Actually it is just the opposite Poppy. I took the D.S. Aureolin off my palette and replaced it with Holbein's Aureolin Hue. I have no affiliation with Daniel Smith. I just really like their pigments, so naturally I will tell others about them.
Thank you for sharing this experiment! I'll be taking it off my palette as well!
You are welcome.
I'm here because I love learning more about new colors like Aureolin
Welcome!
Lorraine, thank you💛
You are very welcome Joyce.
A “hue” means it’s a synthetic version of the original. It may have more than one pigment but not necessarily. Hues often replace expensive pigments like cobalt and cadmiums, but they can also replace fugitive colors with synthetic lightfast colors. At least that’s my understanding of what a hue is. 😘 I love your work and you’ve taught me a lot. Thank you for all your videos. ❤️❤️❤️
Yes, and hues are generally made of more than one pigment and in this case the Holbein Aureolin has three pigments and none of them is the PY40 of Aureolin (Cobalt Yellow) that changes color. Thanks for your feedback. I am glad the videos are helpful.
I think the main reasons paint companies keep known fugitive colours in their ranges are a) because of sales to people who either don’t realise, or are following lazier teachers’ recommendations; and b) for artists who work in sketchbooks or in eventually digital formats (who never display their work in sunlight). It’s interesting that so many lightfast indexes talk of fugitive colours lasting for decades, when anyone who tests paints themselves can see marked fading/discolouration in as little as weeks or months. I’m pleased to see an artist of your stature and experience being principled and open to rethinking fugitive colours. Change is difficult, but it’s a hard enough medium for beginners without having our few successes turn from bright to brown, or fade away altogether!
I think there are many artists that trust the supplies they are using because the quality of the brand and the ASTM board has verified the pigments. I also believe there is a lot of information to learn dealing with watercolor supplies and hopefully the artists that want to sell quality work will learn and adjust their tools where required if something is not up to their standards.
Lorraine, I never got this one because of the fading. I watch Kimberly Crick channel she tests all her watercolors. She has tested DS Moon Glow I believe Shadow Violet too and they have faded. She has mixes that are light fast to match the fugitive colors.
That's good to know about Shadow Violet and Moon Glow. I haven't used Shadow Violet. I will have to test Moon Glow. I have only used it a couple of times, but I won't anymore if it fades.
Have you tried Nickel Azo Yellow. It's more light fast and blends nicely.
I haven't seen Aureolin yellow in Daniel Smith line while shopping lately. I wonder if they pulled it from the market? I have the Hansa Yellow Light.
Interesting Lana. It would be nice if they made a hue to take it's place.
Yellows can be so tricky especially since we want one that can glaze being the lightest to a bit more towards orange. I put nickel yellow from Qor on my palette for the lightest yellow and I keep a tube of Quinophalone yellow from DS in my box. Azo yellow glazes beautifully, is a bit more deeper as far as single pigments and isn’t as cloudy for mixes but I do keep a medium cadmium in my box. It upset me that most wc companies don’t even explain that Hansa yellow isn’t even considered “great quality” but Hansa deep is. I also swatched many over the years and I don’t really use as many cad yellows unless I am mixing something that needs to be be greyed a bit. I do a lot of botanical painting and have a mixed palette due to so much research. I changed my DS quin rose to Sennelier’s PV19 Rose Madder Lake which is completely lightfast because I noticed how the quin rose dulls down with the drying shift. I still use Hansa yellow deep because it didn’t change at all compared to the lighter version, but do you notice how it is written to confuse artists in each brand? The only other change that I have made recently is that I really love Perylene maroon for branches to flowers,browns and I keep Perylene violet and green on the palette. I have a tube of convenience purple but I still just mix it. We have the same palettes so it is great to have granulating and not granulating coverage without another palette yet I still might mix so many to work through a painting that I love those little flower porcelain mixing dishes. It can be a conundrum for sure. I had been away from painting due to a health issue but am really enjoying it along with pastels, colored pencils and charcoal. Mixed media is a ton of fun also and I know that this was an older post but that is why I wasn’t able to respond. Take care and enjoy painting 😊
Thanks for the comments. I think color has so many options and components that it is fun to explore and try things.
Aureolin hue in schmincke are very lightfast 4star 🤩semi-transparent and semi-staining 👌👍🎨👩🏼🎨 it’s also single pigment py 151
Thanks for the info. I may have to check it out.
Thank you for this video! It was really helpful - I was thinking about buying aureolin and now I know that I shouldn’t :) also I heard that carmine from Holbein can change colour.
You are welcome. I like the Aureolin from Holbein that is a 'hue'. It is a good replacement. I hadn't heard that about Holbein Carmine.
Wow, that's a pretty dramatic change. Good to know. I also hadn't thought about the UV protection on window panes altering the testing since my landlady has junky windows in some here & others have been in the cottage since 1925 when it was built & UV protection was non-existent. But I'll for sure keep it in mind if I move out of early 1900s architecture. 😏
Yes, it was a dramatic change. Must be an interesting cottage, but I think I would take my newer windows over those from 1925.
@@lorrainewatry_watercolors Rent for our cute little one bedroom shelter in 1935 (we looked at State census) was $35 a month. 😂🤣 Now it's $1,500. The times are changing 🤔
I do my own tests also. I found out that my Daniel Smith "Saturn Red', (PO64) is not very lightfast at all! Daniel Smith rates it as very good. Its not for it faded to almost nothing in a medium to light wash.
Hi Renee, Thanks for the heads up about Saturn Red. I have not heard of it or used it. It's good you do your own tests!
Hello there:
I hope you see this on time!
I have till tomorrow to choose a middle of the road yellow, and since where I live I dont have art stores to help me, I have to buy online! Could you help me?
I prefer is from Daniel Smith cause 95 of my palette is Daniel Smith, but I do have some Holbein.
Just so I can explain what I need, let me tell you that, as my cool yellow I have Holbein's Imidazolone Lemon and as my warm yellow, I have Indian yellow from Daniel Smith
Please help me fix the "gap" between those two! Which yellow can I get that is like a mid yellow, between those two. Something neutral... not greenish, not orangy, just a mid yellow.
Something, TRANSPARENT and no granulating. High lightfastness is not an issue, cause I paint in skechbooks, just for me, as a therapeutic aid, and I'm bedbound which makes life hard, yes, BUT, at least, I can still paint in bed and want to be happy about my colors. 😊😊😊 Please help.
Hi, I just saw this so, I hope it's in time. I would probably go with Holbein's Aureolin yellow (which is a hue) or Hansa Medium by Daniel Smith (is just slightly warmer). I hope this helps.
Where do you buy the Holbein Aureolin Hue? I cannot find it anywhere
Hi Katia, I think I bought the Aureolin Hue online at Dick Blick or Jerrys Artarama.
@@lorrainewatry_watercolors thank you
Would you address in one of your videos , problems with framing watercolour paintings, and how to preserve them without spending a huge amount of money.
Good suggestion Linda. I do all my own framing and that has helped keep the cost down. I will put your idea on my list.
It's just an advert for Daniel Smith
Actually it is just the opposite Poppy. I took the D.S. Aureolin off my palette and replaced it with Holbein's Aureolin Hue. I have no affiliation with Daniel Smith. I just really like their pigments, so naturally I will tell others about them.
@@lorrainewatry_watercolors Yes, of course.
How is it an advert for Daniel Smith when she's saying that the color isn't lightfast? She's saying not to use it, knucklehead.