Gold Smelting, Is It Worth It? Part 2!!!

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  • Опубліковано 29 бер 2024
  • Welcome back to the thrilling continuation of our quest to uncover the truth about gold smelting! In this eagerly awaited sequel, Jason delves deeper into the world of smelting as we eagerly anticipate the results of his painstaking efforts.
    Join us as Jason meticulously analyzes the outcomes of his innovative flux recipe and strategic concentration adjustments. Has Jason's hard work and determination paid off in the form of a glittering golden reward?
    With each step, we uncover valuable insights into the complexities of gold smelting and the intricacies of maximizing gold recovery. Through Jason's journey, we gain a deeper understanding of the factors that determine the success of the smelting process.
    As the suspense builds, we eagerly await the moment of truth. Will Jason's efforts yield a treasure trove of gleaming gold, or will he encounter unexpected challenges along the way?
    Don't miss out on the thrilling conclusion of our gold smelting saga! Join us as we uncover the final results and discover whether gold smelting proves to be a worthwhile endeavor in our quest for golden riches.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 206

  • @cheesynuts4291
    @cheesynuts4291 3 місяці тому +37

    Jason many of us greatly appreciate everything you do. The rest of these Karen’s would still complain if you ship them the gold directly. We are living in a world full of unhappy people. Please keep it up brother! I’ll always be here appreciating what you do.

  • @richardlincoln8438
    @richardlincoln8438 3 місяці тому +6

    Just commenting to feed the algorithm Jason. Best Wishes to everyone.

  • @kahnfu-zhin8627
    @kahnfu-zhin8627 3 місяці тому +3

    It’s always worth watching you at work, because you’re always experimenting and trying new stuff. We all get to learn about the intricacies of gold recovery, the most fascinating process in the world.

  • @chicagovasko
    @chicagovasko 3 місяці тому +8

    Jason I appreciate you teaching me this stuff I'm not good in school but with you I learn a lot thanks bro.

  • @boredtexan
    @boredtexan 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video as always! I'm always excited to see new ones pop up.

  • @MrDazP1adv3ntures
    @MrDazP1adv3ntures 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you Jason, To me You are not what I would class as a " UA-camr" you are a genuinely talented and knowledgeable individual who shares his experiences for us all to enjoy.
    This is way beyond gold panning but it puts everything in to perspective as it is all part of the process. Thank you buddy 👍

  • @dewardtaylor4192
    @dewardtaylor4192 3 місяці тому +2

    Jason thanks for the great video. Looking forward to you opening your mine this season. Stay safe

  • @rockman531
    @rockman531 3 місяці тому +1

    Great videos, Jason! Thank you for taking the time to educate us! Thumbs up - as always!! Be safe! Jim

  • @jamesdetrick6035
    @jamesdetrick6035 3 місяці тому +2

    Your videos are very very informative and very entertaining. Thank you for all your hard work well I just sit around and watch

  • @KevinAxt-om5on
    @KevinAxt-om5on 3 місяці тому +1

    I'll probably never mine for gold or even hobby prospect but its fun watching the videos. Thanks for putting these together. Like the argyle socks!

  • @bobhoward6676
    @bobhoward6676 3 місяці тому +1

    It's all about the fun. All hobbies cost money. At least this has value when finished. I love learning how to do this. Been following for years.

  • @danje748
    @danje748 3 місяці тому +10

    These videos are always interesting to watch, really enjoy them. =)

  • @GSProspecting
    @GSProspecting 3 місяці тому +7

    Great job all around fam. Keep on having fun getting that Au and living the dream. Gold Squad Out 🤠

  • @Robert-ys9zy
    @Robert-ys9zy 3 місяці тому +1

    I love learning from your smelting experiments.
    I appreciate the long form.
    Thank you

  • @CrestoneColorado-yj4we
    @CrestoneColorado-yj4we 3 місяці тому +2

    I learned, I enjoyed. Thanks Jason

  • @markbottcher9623
    @markbottcher9623 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for all your hard work,and mistakes we can learn from. I may not be doing any smelting anytime soon ,but i have learned alot from these vids.

  • @coinjunkyag1626
    @coinjunkyag1626 3 місяці тому +8

    Jason! Hey hey buddy love the vids thank you for sharing ✌️

  • @davidoconn9352
    @davidoconn9352 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks Jason A very interesting video for sure thanks again.

  • @user-fl2md9df2v
    @user-fl2md9df2v 3 місяці тому +1

    Jason, you treat us so right!

  • @georgetucker2171
    @georgetucker2171 2 місяці тому

    I appreciate that you show us your mistakes as well as your successes -- thanks!!

  • @timothyodonnell8591
    @timothyodonnell8591 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for the informative video!

  • @josephcormier5974
    @josephcormier5974 3 місяці тому +1

    This was a very enjoyable and informative video thank you for sharing this six stars brother

  • @vicferrari9380
    @vicferrari9380 3 місяці тому +1

    Keep up the great effort.

  • @johncasebeer179
    @johncasebeer179 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video!

  • @miketheminer2023
    @miketheminer2023 3 місяці тому +1

    Always good info Jason

  • @OpenSpaceWellness
    @OpenSpaceWellness 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for the hard work.
    🙏❤️🌲

  • @I.Live4oldcars.prospecting
    @I.Live4oldcars.prospecting 3 місяці тому +1

    Interesting video Jason

  • @mattlevesque5927
    @mattlevesque5927 3 місяці тому +2

    Great video brother 🎉

  • @JesseJames83
    @JesseJames83 3 місяці тому +1

    I'd like to see a part 3 where you show us a worth-while smelt; something that makes a nice profit after time and materials.

  • @rikspector
    @rikspector 3 місяці тому +1

    Jason,
    I feel the heat:) from here:)
    Cheers,
    Rik in Ferndale

  • @johnkatakowsi9907
    @johnkatakowsi9907 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for the time you took showing your formulation on your smelting!!!!!😀

  • @izzyburgos9648
    @izzyburgos9648 3 місяці тому +1

    Hey Jason, Im 20 and I stay in Bellingham, Wa. I love your content and would to like to work with you. I’m open to learning and I would greatly appreciate it to learn some of your great knowledge.
    Thanks again for the great content!

  • @mickeyfilmer5551
    @mickeyfilmer5551 3 місяці тому +19

    You have a fabrication shop there- why don't you make yourself a decent sized smelter? There are loads of videos online on how to do it and from what I have seen of your equipment, you have the necessary tools and skills set to fabricate one. Then you could smelt larger volumes and make it cost effective- also buld a larger pyramid pouring jig and some properly forged tools for holding and pouring the melt- the set up you have currently is not safe for pouring - watch some videos online of people smelting and you will see the tools they use- easily made in your shop.

    • @lotharschiese8559
      @lotharschiese8559 3 місяці тому +1

      Yes, I have concerns also, there is plenty of info on how to be more functional and safer. Build up over your furnace, a fume hood, much like a blacksmith had with a good size exhaust fan. Metal poisoning, whether it be air or water is not fun and it will creep up on you, it accumulates in our body!

  • @silverspikeprospecting
    @silverspikeprospecting 3 місяці тому +2

    If you coat that fire brick with kiln wash your crucible will be less likely to stick prior to pouring.😁👍 Excellent job all around Jason, keep up that great work and good content!

  • @petepal55
    @petepal55 3 місяці тому +1

    Learning has a great deal of value as it can be used for the rest of your life if you document it well.

  • @timhenson4815
    @timhenson4815 3 місяці тому +3

    Always enjoy all the information you give us ! Great content!

  • @NoahMask
    @NoahMask 3 місяці тому +1

    I've really been enjoying this channel, would love to see a collab w/Cody's Lab!

  • @jeepin4on4
    @jeepin4on4 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks Jason.

  • @MhdkhusrinKemilauemas
    @MhdkhusrinKemilauemas 3 місяці тому +1

    Amazing very good, good luck

  • @anotherluckydad
    @anotherluckydad 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for the brain food Jason. That was a great example of techniques.

  • @zackfalin7266
    @zackfalin7266 3 місяці тому +2

    You may have done this before, but I'd like to see a detailed cost analysis- how much does the fuel cost for x amount of material, how much does the electricity cost for the cupel, how much do cupels cost and how many times/how much material can you run through them, etc. Kinda boring math, but interesting when all put together.

  • @1944chevytruck
    @1944chevytruck 3 місяці тому +2

    good job!

  • @dakartoffel
    @dakartoffel 3 місяці тому +2

    Hi Jason, your rock crushing equipment looks nice and is very professional. I hope you can set up a similarly professional smelter someday. This overflowing cone-mould; furnace heldt together by wire and flimsy tools stuff is a stark contrast to the rock crushing equipment of yours. Greetings from Germany.

  • @me5768
    @me5768 3 місяці тому +2

    Now you should do an Acid removal test to compare with the recovery from the smelting. But I enjoyed your video very much. Thank you.

  • @mikehalvorsen4788
    @mikehalvorsen4788 3 місяці тому +1

    Hey Jason. A while back you mentioned if you could use chemicals to refine your gold. Not really sure, but I think you still have to go threw the process you go threw first before you use chemicals. Love your videos. Thanks. 😎👍🇨🇦

  • @المعادن_و_الأحجار_الكريمة

    Thanks

  • @CrushTheRocks110
    @CrushTheRocks110 3 місяці тому +1

    Nice brother

  • @TechGorilla1987
    @TechGorilla1987 3 місяці тому

    @20:52 - Very few things make me say "Whoa" like I was in a Bill And Teds Excellent Adventure movie, but that reaction to the steel is one of them.

  • @TB-zw7dt
    @TB-zw7dt 3 місяці тому +1

    Sounds like it's time to upscale if you have a good supply of rich ore and get your smelting formulations down pat.

  • @tominthebox
    @tominthebox 3 місяці тому +3

    GM from Montreal.

  • @JCTaylorinAZ
    @JCTaylorinAZ 3 місяці тому +1

    Jason. Love watching your experience with mining. Instead of using bismuth is there a reason you don’t like to use lead. For the mine samples I smelter. To this day we still use lead to absorb the precious metals instead of bismuth. I would also try adding a small amount of silver spool wire to capture the precious metals. Wonder if you would have better success absorbing the lead with boneash rather then the bismuth method. Let me know what you think?

  • @harvesteasternedge
    @harvesteasternedge 3 місяці тому +1

    Great

  • @Alondro77
    @Alondro77 3 місяці тому +4

    Really want to send you guys a sample of my heavily weathered black sands from an ancient glacial moraine here in central NJ. I've found gold dust and small flakes from panning, but this material comes from eastern Canadian deposits where it's known that flour gold is held inside the hematite and magnetite grains worn out of the quartz ores. I was lucky enough to find a quartz pebble with a broken hematite grain on the surface, and there in the middle a tiny speck of gold could be seen shining brilliantly in the sun (with a magnifying glass to actually see the little thing).
    From panning various samples, including black sands from marine deposits that don't have any appreciable amount of gold, I can tell these glacial black sands are MUCH denser. The ocean black sands easily wash around with even light swirling of the pan, while the glacial ones are so heavy that it's often hard to separate them from the gold dust. They also possess the ultra fine 'silver sand', which can be anything from lead ores to PGMs (and the ores in eastern Canada are known to have platinum).
    It'd be a simple smelt too, since any sulfides are long gone. This material has been ground down by glacial action and weathered in the open for at least 10,000 years. I often find quartz stones with cavities where you can see the imprints of the pyrite crystals and masses that oxidized and washed away over time.

    • @lotharschiese8559
      @lotharschiese8559 3 місяці тому +1

      Do a SG of these black sands and do a SG of black sands totally removed. Should help answer your intuition! Then crush in a dolly pot to flour and carefully pan, Eh? Look for Au stuck to the steel on the thumper and inside the pot!

    • @lotharschiese8559
      @lotharschiese8559 3 місяці тому +1

      Don't ya love nature's mysteries?

    • @whateverX7
      @whateverX7 3 місяці тому +1

      Are the black sands magnetic? If you measure the density and it is significantly greater than 5g/cm3 then you might have something interesting

    • @frontiervirtcharter
      @frontiervirtcharter 3 місяці тому

      Hydrochloric or sulfuric acid will dissolve hematite. Might be worth reacting a small sample of your sands with an appropriate amount of hardware store muriatic acid (HCl) to see what's left when the hematite is removed

    • @Alondro77
      @Alondro77 3 місяці тому

      @@lotharschiese8559That really would be very cost-prohibitive. I'd have to buy all that equipment to test a few pounds of black sand. It'd be MUCH cheaper to send Mount Baker a sample and let Jason smelt it. He has the expertise to do it right and get a result I can have faith in.

  • @scruggsbuster9458
    @scruggsbuster9458 3 місяці тому +1

    Maybe if you put your samples on black paper you might be able to see them😂 but thank you for the video and all your hard work making the videos for us we will see you on the next one😂❤

  • @reddmuldoone7738
    @reddmuldoone7738 3 місяці тому +1

    Have been watching your adventures for a while. I haven't got the fever but I do have a sore throat. Is it necessary to use that much flux in your smelts?

  • @charlesmerfield1322
    @charlesmerfield1322 3 місяці тому +2

    Jason, could you use the XRF on the concentrates to better understand what's in them?

  • @Sweezy42069
    @Sweezy42069 3 місяці тому +3

    It ate the flat bar at the top because it was exposed to more oxygen than the bottom of the flat bar.

  • @scotthultin7769
    @scotthultin7769 3 місяці тому +2

    38 👍's up mbmllc thank you for sharing 🤗

  • @retselyarrh3895
    @retselyarrh3895 3 місяці тому +3

    How do you separate the gold from the silver???

  • @josephescott3263
    @josephescott3263 3 місяці тому +1

    Is it possible on the first couple of tries that there was no gold in the sample because even though it was wet material, maybe the gold particles settled during shipping and the sample needed to be remixed and possibly dried before testing?

  • @Shaboynga
    @Shaboynga 3 місяці тому +2

    Could you crush up old cupels to refine out the copper?

  • @Ethan-xm4fv
    @Ethan-xm4fv 3 місяці тому +1

    Jason looks like your getting the work out with pouring #12 s

  • @markae0
    @markae0 3 місяці тому

    I would like "sreetips" opinion on dissolving - extracting the gold in - from an acid.

  • @cigie4575
    @cigie4575 3 місяці тому

    I feel like there has to be a more efficient way to extract the precious metals from the concentrate. Have you ever considered using acids to fully dissolve the concentrates, then precipitate out specific metals and separate them that way?

  • @bradical2723
    @bradical2723 3 місяці тому

    Jason im in MT! New to gold panning and such, can i come visit your mine???

  • @littlejonathorn6860
    @littlejonathorn6860 2 місяці тому +1

    25:45 Jason, is there a way to polish the dirt off or to shine or remove dirt?
    Would it even be worth it to fix it because its such a small sample?

  • @ahbushnell1
    @ahbushnell1 3 місяці тому +1

    any advantage of using iron powder? If it all dissolved then the maybe it would reduce the loss.

  • @chuckerickson6721
    @chuckerickson6721 3 місяці тому +1

    Is it worth it? All those nasty fumes on my clothes, skin, hair and laundry....answer is simple no way. :) Thanks Jason

    • @semoneg2826
      @semoneg2826 2 місяці тому

      Well if the dollars keep rolling in why not

  • @varjen018
    @varjen018 3 місяці тому +1

    Would it be possible to cut the slag into slivers or is it just too brittle?
    I think it would be epic pieces to display if one could get them thin enough.

  • @TheVillageGreen
    @TheVillageGreen 2 місяці тому

    Jason, you said it takes a couple hours start to finish for a smelt. I was wondering if you could give us an elapsed time indicator on one of the videos, or maybe you have in the past and I missed it?
    Also, you often comment on the colour of the button, but it’s difficult to see on video sometimes. It might be helpful to see the buttons next to a pure gold and pure silver button so whatever’s happening with camera/lighting/display we get a feel for the comparison you’re making.

  • @anthonyrstrawbridge
    @anthonyrstrawbridge 3 місяці тому

    Would a hybrid fire assay chemical refining be beneficial?

  • @markbrown6236
    @markbrown6236 3 місяці тому +5

    I like the math done on a piece of cardboard, very down to earth.

  • @cblock81
    @cblock81 3 місяці тому +1

    Hey Jason, not sure if anyone has mentioned, but if you put a piece of cardboard under the crucible it won't stick to the firebrick.

  • @bentationfunkiloglio
    @bentationfunkiloglio 3 місяці тому

    Rebar might be better than flat bar. Less surface area for bismuth to fuse to.

  • @gregwaters944
    @gregwaters944 3 місяці тому

    When you have gold and silver together how do you separate the two?

  • @derrickseymour6775
    @derrickseymour6775 2 місяці тому

    I wonder if it would be worth trying to suspend the iron bar while smelting to avoid it sitting in the bismuth. Just a thought

  • @Sauspreme
    @Sauspreme 3 місяці тому

    instead of adding big chunks of iron to get eaten away to reduce the collector metal, what would happen if you figured out a ratio and weighed out an amount of iron to add to the mix? that way you don't have excess chunks of iron covered in collector metal. Or at least it would seem you could reduce the size of those excess iron chunks and the loss of collector metal maybe. Or would that cause some other kind of contamination issue?

  • @kuronyaa-san
    @kuronyaa-san 3 місяці тому

    @20:00 It is as if you're making a cake. A golden cake!

  • @kenchappelle816
    @kenchappelle816 3 місяці тому +1

    Jason to keep things simple and inexpensive can I use Baking Soda and 20 mule team borax ? Potassium Nitrate is becoming a problem to obtain also because it can be used to make explosives.

  • @domonikoldham7387
    @domonikoldham7387 2 місяці тому

    was this a reupload or am i mistaken i think this was posted 2 weeks ago

  • @robo6590
    @robo6590 3 місяці тому

    Bachman Turner Overdrive must have watched a lot of Jason.

  • @markbradley9008
    @markbradley9008 3 місяці тому

    What kind of temperature do you recommend to smelt a 1kg bar?

  • @sahabuddinbuddin667
    @sahabuddinbuddin667 3 місяці тому +1

    Memiliki ilmu melebur dgan resep kimia yg pas bisa menikmati keyaan alam di. Sekitar kita

  • @davidanalyst671
    @davidanalyst671 3 місяці тому +1

    since when did you start doing clips for business insider??? I had no idea I was watching a star!!

  • @idiggold
    @idiggold 3 місяці тому

    Maybe the flatbar gives more iron surface area compared to the nails

  • @SirHackaL0t.
    @SirHackaL0t. 3 місяці тому

    I was surprised that you filled up the first crucible so high as you were worried about boil over.

  • @donaldfitzgerald8950
    @donaldfitzgerald8950 3 місяці тому

    Jason, alchemists are like magicians, but you understand what's happening and that's what counts!... I'm lucky if i can remember my name sometimes!? Lol! But spring is coming, wouldn't a horizontal drilling machine help you with your mine, that's what's needed at the mine at Cerro Gordo, ya think? Keep it all happening...⛏️⚒️⚖️👍✌️🤠

  • @mikehartman5326
    @mikehartman5326 3 місяці тому

    Sometimes, I think using plain old Lead might bring better results.

  • @patmccrady6063
    @patmccrady6063 3 місяці тому

    I would’ve like to see the comparison of a lead collector

  • @greedygringoprospecting6941
    @greedygringoprospecting6941 3 місяці тому

    how do you refine hold from rhyolite. ??

  • @barrybrehm3555
    @barrybrehm3555 3 місяці тому +1

    I still don’t understand why you don’t dry your sample like you used to. It should make it better.

  • @jimgriffiths9071
    @jimgriffiths9071 3 місяці тому +4

    All interesting, but what we really want to know is the values from your mine samples. Will there be a season 2 up on the mountain?

    • @user-zq7sx8xx1m
      @user-zq7sx8xx1m 3 місяці тому

      I was thinking the same thing

    • @rooftopv4664
      @rooftopv4664 3 місяці тому +1

      He sells all the high grade stuff on Ebay and crushes the low grade stuff that's left. We will never know the real value of that ore...

  • @scott2296
    @scott2296 2 місяці тому

    Why not roast the samples in a campfire (make some hotlinks while you're at it), then use AR instead of smelting?
    I'm new here, sorry if this is a dumb question.

  • @terrycook2733
    @terrycook2733 3 місяці тому

    dont they have a table shaker

  • @markpashia7067
    @markpashia7067 3 місяці тому

    Have you ever scratch/acid tested the beads/buttons to get a closer number on the percent gold? Seems that would be an easy way to value them. Is the button 22k, 18k, 14k or 9k? That info with the weight would give you a real value number. Of course that does not value the silver content though.

  • @blairmurphy5531
    @blairmurphy5531 3 місяці тому

    👍

  • @travisfisher594
    @travisfisher594 3 місяці тому

    👍🏻👊🏻⛏

  • @candui7278
    @candui7278 3 місяці тому +1

    I found what I believe is a pure acanthite vein Jason! Can I bring it over?

  • @andrestein6022
    @andrestein6022 3 місяці тому

    Cardboard keeps the firebrick from sticking!

  • @tylergrove
    @tylergrove 3 місяці тому

    Have you heard of Hannah Baron?