Hey everyone! I wanted to let you know that together with my wife, we make these minimalistic hiking posters for various thru-hiking trails. You can check them out over here ➜ trailgoals.com/ (10% discount code: oscarhikes)
Was actually thinking the same! It's just about 30/40 bucks more, but it's also rated for lower temps compared to the one he's reviewing. Been using both, the mt500 for winter and the 100 for spring/fall mainly. They're both quite nice, especially considering you'd spend 150 more for something with roughly the same lifespan😂
the women's mt500 uses 850fp down ich makes it extremely competitive with the most expensive jackets out there. the main difference is the more robust fabric, which adds weight
You kinda need a canvas outer protection layer to help maintain the feathers in the rain. I have a really good quality down jacket without a canvas outer layer and one that has the canvas outer layer. The one without canvas couldn't retain its warmth for more than 10 years. I'm on year 14 with the one with the canvas outer layer. In good quality down jackets, the thing that wears out most often is the zipper, which can be easily replaced. I still use my over 20yr old jacket, just in higher temperatures. Also, Sir Terry Pratchet have a great quote about the economics of buying good quality vs. Cheap things in his book Men at Arms.
I looked into it and yes, that indeed would be a more fair comparison. The specs are really similar to the OV down jacket. It's just that I didn't have it on hand and I haven't used the MT500 before.
what I've done in the past is to treat my puffy down jacket with Nikwax wash-in waterproofing, made especially for down. I think it's a pretty good hack, but, honestly haven't actually done a field test, as I've never soaked my down jacket before. but buying the nikwax double pack (cleaner and waterproofer) costs probably only at 20-25 USD, so it's a considerably cheaper than buying a more expensive jacket.
Yes, that's a very cheap and effective way to do it! :) I'll probably do a field test like that someday on my channel when I throw out my current Deccathlon Jacket and buy a new one. How long it's able to keep me warm when damp and not waterproofed vs waterproofed and damp. The difference should be huge I imagine!
@mrridikilis it might be inexpensive now, but we'll pay a much bigger price later. Those chemicals are as dense as air. As it floats into the atmosphere, it will eventually accumulate in the arctic and antarctic, making those regions THE most polluted areas on the planet. I have a post grad in environmental sciences, and I avoid anything that can be sprayed.
Sorry, but the OV jacket fit is just atrocious 😂 Looks very similar to Patagonia down sweater. MT100 is the winner for my hiking needs. Slimmer fit, higher neck collar, better shaped minimal hood and tbh I really don't think I need anything more warm than that.
If been using a $799NZD Macpac Phoenix Waterproof down jacket for a couple of months now, anddddd it’s one of my biggest regrets, at a certain point, your just paying extra for a tiny boost in quality. Would recommend paying anywhere from $200NZD TO $350NZD..
Have you tried any clothing items from 4F? I find many of them to be pretty nice quality. A bit more expensive than Decathlon, but much higher quality (haven't tried down jackets yet though)
@patrickbedruz6475 I've always had down jackets. My experience is that moisture is the worst thing for those jackets. The shell is absolutely necessary to keep it functional. I've had jackets with and without a shell. The one with the shell lasted much longer than the one without. Even though the one without was much better quality and more expensive. It was much lighter, but when new could withstand up to -25C. But the feathers lost their heat trapping capacity after only 10 years while I'm on year 15 with my lower quality shelled jacket.
does anyone else get this effect where the decathlon keeps making a circular looking dent when it bends, looking like you have a gigantic belly button?
TNF makes trash products for people who don’t actually use them for outdoor sports, happened about 10 years ago
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@@Jordan__Sloan They make clothes. How and when one uses them is up to people who buy them. For me Thermoball has worked better that Micro Puff in DESERT MOUNTAINS. Very happy with Nuptse in the CITY. Planning to take it with me to Nepal. So there.
Hey everyone! I wanted to let you know that together with my wife, we make these minimalistic hiking posters for various thru-hiking trails. You can check them out over here ➜ trailgoals.com/ (10% discount code: oscarhikes)
you have to compare the mt500 instead of the mt100.
you can also treat your mtX00 with nik wax and it also gets a compared water repellant down.
Was actually thinking the same! It's just about 30/40 bucks more, but it's also rated for lower temps compared to the one he's reviewing. Been using both, the mt500 for winter and the 100 for spring/fall mainly. They're both quite nice, especially considering you'd spend 150 more for something with roughly the same lifespan😂
Sunday, February 11th: There are times when you pay for quality and times when you pay for the name. We don't always know. Happy Trails! Ross08
Just received my Decathlon puffy jacket for prepping my 2025 PCT thru hike!
it's an amazing jacket, unbeatable for the price + it goes on sale
@@precambrian_rabbitYes I did get it on sale which is even better!
the women's mt500 uses 850fp down ich makes it extremely competitive with the most expensive jackets out there. the main difference is the more robust fabric, which adds weight
Just found your channel toda., great advice, obviously experienced and actually testing gear normal people can afford. 10/10 keep it up :) 👍
Just bought it, £60 here in the UK, love it, packs up so small and weighs very little. Cheers
Bought too many cheap down jackets even some are not so cheap in Germany but doesn’t work at all 😩 at the end have to buy a good one
You kinda need a canvas outer protection layer to help maintain the feathers in the rain. I have a really good quality down jacket without a canvas outer layer and one that has the canvas outer layer. The one without canvas couldn't retain its warmth for more than 10 years. I'm on year 14 with the one with the canvas outer layer. In good quality down jackets, the thing that wears out most often is the zipper, which can be easily replaced. I still use my over 20yr old jacket, just in higher temperatures. Also, Sir Terry Pratchet have a great quote about the economics of buying good quality vs. Cheap things in his book Men at Arms.
Will a quality shell outerlayer do the job?
@patrickbedruz6475 absolutely. You just need something to protect the inner layer where the feathers are.
@@ToudaHell Awesomee thank youu!
Bit unfair. The MT500 is a closer comparison.
I looked into it and yes, that indeed would be a more fair comparison. The specs are really similar to the OV down jacket. It's just that I didn't have it on hand and I haven't used the MT500 before.
what I've done in the past is to treat my puffy down jacket with Nikwax wash-in waterproofing, made especially for down. I think it's a pretty good hack, but, honestly haven't actually done a field test, as I've never soaked my down jacket before. but buying the nikwax double pack (cleaner and waterproofer) costs probably only at 20-25 USD, so it's a considerably cheaper than buying a more expensive jacket.
Yes, that's a very cheap and effective way to do it! :) I'll probably do a field test like that someday on my channel when I throw out my current Deccathlon Jacket and buy a new one. How long it's able to keep me warm when damp and not waterproofed vs waterproofed and damp. The difference should be huge I imagine!
@mrridikilis it might be inexpensive now, but we'll pay a much bigger price later. Those chemicals are as dense as air. As it floats into the atmosphere, it will eventually accumulate in the arctic and antarctic, making those regions THE most polluted areas on the planet. I have a post grad in environmental sciences, and I avoid anything that can be sprayed.
Hey Oscar,
I'm looking to buy a Novapro here in Europe. Where did you get yours?
Can you also talk about pants you use in your hiking in the mountains?
Nice video though 🙏🏽
Thanks
Sorry, but the OV jacket fit is just atrocious 😂 Looks very similar to Patagonia down sweater. MT100 is the winner for my hiking needs. Slimmer fit, higher neck collar, better shaped minimal hood and tbh I really don't think I need anything more warm than that.
If been using a $799NZD Macpac Phoenix Waterproof down jacket for a couple of months now, anddddd it’s one of my biggest regrets, at a certain point, your just paying extra for a tiny boost in quality. Would recommend paying anywhere from $200NZD TO $350NZD..
I've used the decathlon for years, with a wool base layer and a fleece under and toggs rain jacket over, it can handle 10° F like a beast.
Yeah, with enough layering I've been out in -10C and below temps with it as well!
How well and unbiased Explanation given superb
I’d wear two of the cheaper one and still be cheaper than the expensive one
where did you get the MT100 for only $50?
Couldn't you just treat your jacket with a product like Nikwax? That's whatI do with my Decathlon jacket.
$48 my butt. Its $99
Have you tried any clothing items from 4F? I find many of them to be pretty nice quality. A bit more expensive than Decathlon, but much higher quality (haven't tried down jackets yet though)
Nope, not yet.
$$ usually means better quality down, and $$ means more warmth.
Or use 2 cheap down jackets?
Will these down jackets be ok in the pacific northwest where its wet a lot if you put a quality shell over it?
@patrickbedruz6475 I've always had down jackets. My experience is that moisture is the worst thing for those jackets. The shell is absolutely necessary to keep it functional. I've had jackets with and without a shell. The one with the shell lasted much longer than the one without. Even though the one without was much better quality and more expensive. It was much lighter, but when new could withstand up to -25C. But the feathers lost their heat trapping capacity after only 10 years while I'm on year 15 with my lower quality shelled jacket.
@ToudaHell wicked thats nice to know, I'd be happy with that performance.
does anyone else get this effect where the decathlon keeps making a circular looking dent when it bends, looking like you have a gigantic belly button?
Buen vídeo! Muy instructivo!!! Los que vivimos en la España mediterránea y sólo nos acercamos al Pirineo en verano, lo tenemos claro: la de decathlon!
TNF Thermoball is on discount rn 🏷️
TNF makes trash products for people who don’t actually use them for outdoor sports, happened about 10 years ago
@@Jordan__Sloan They make clothes. How and when one uses them is up to people who buy them. For me Thermoball has worked better that Micro Puff in DESERT MOUNTAINS. Very happy with Nuptse in the CITY. Planning to take it with me to Nepal. So there.
It looks like the MT100 is going for $99 US now.
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