When I first heard about this incident, I was and still am amazed that the pilots were able to recover from this, and make it safely to an airport with zero fatalities. Simply incredible!
The fact that everyone on this flight came so close to death but didnt is so much and the fact the captain ans pilots did everything to save everyone on the plane including themselves is amazing. I love these episodes where people survive.
I’m amazed so many mistakes made by the engineer put them in the situation. There’s lucky to walk away from this. I honestly don’t think they were trained for what if scenarios happen. It’s always a combination of things that create disasters.
I can't recall ever seeing a plane damaged THAT critically on all parts of it and the pilots still producing a safe landing with no casualties. Bravo to these pilots
This is why I would never ever fly in a fully-automated (pilotless) plane. "Figure out what's wrong" is not an order you can give a computer (at least, not yet). Trained pilots will try everything they can think of, including thinking waaay outside the box -- the Gimli Glider and British Airways 9 *and this plane*) are prime examples of that. In all those cases the pilots managed to bring the planes in against some very terrifying odds.
It's also just as possible for pilots to make the situation worse, with spatial disorientation. The pilots here did not believe their attitude indicator even though it was correct and trusting it could've helped them regain control. There can also be confusing warnings. Some planes will have a stall warning that stops going off when the plane has reached a very extreme angle, even though it is most definitely still in a stall, and the warning will return as the stall is reduced. That could confuse pilots, unless they just ignore the warning and fly the plane using the basic they learned on simple planes.
It takes investigators sometimes months or years to figure out why a crash occurs, but the pilots only have seconds, maybe minutes to figure out what went wrong and how to fix it.
And, unlike the simulator, you might be falling from the sky while trying to figure it out. I have seen the view from a cockpit, and I think people are crazy to get into a tube that if you don't get out you die.
The crew of JAL flight 123 ALMOST managed to land their crippled plane. Tragically, they were too late. The entire tail had come off so they had no control. It plunged out of control and hit a mountain in Japan. Most of the passengers died. The crash was blamed on poor repair work done on the rear of the plane.
China Airlines has(or, perhaps, had) a history of punishing its pilots for declaring emergencies, regardless of the reasons, its why pilots for that airline are often hesitant to declare an emergency since it can lead to lose of their jobs - even if they weren't responsible.
@@SuisfoniaThat's a very bad thing to do if your going to die and you love your job but there is a way out of it but that make's you lose your job is just the worst thing ever
Yes. He was no doubt shaken like everyone else. It was good that the controller asked about injuries, reminding the captain of what they'd been through, and then offering emergency status and diversion to SF.
I think he panicked... And put yourself in his shoes for a minute. He knew reigniting engine 4 at that altitude wouldn't work... Just panic due to the engine failure and heavy cloud cover. He had zero visual reference and panicked as I believe nearly anyone would. They put that busted bird down without fatalities... Leave them alone... Respect them.
That's why training is so important. He should've never put the plane in that situation to begin with had he followed his training. He absolutely deserves criticism for that, but that doesn't take away the fact that the crew was able to correct the mistakes and save the airplane. So they deserve all of the praise for that at least.
How he landed is crazy .. the tail was gone .. that’s everything when it comes to landing 🛬 Plane built like a champ Pilots and crew thank u Passengers god blessed u
China Airlines incident Flight 006 occurred on February 19, 1985. N4522V was repaired after this incident and operated with Malaysia Air for 1 year then it was sent to the Las Vegas boneyard for scrap. It was saved in 2002 and bought by a hindu philanthropist and repaired again and repainted as his personal plane. It was grounded for lack of maintenance and it was parked at Tijuana’s International Airport and abandoned there, where it still remains today rusting apart on the tarmac.
Incredible. I work extremely close to the landing approach at a major international airport. Sometimes coming and going I see the 747 going in to land. Where my parking lot is located I’m just to the right of the approach path, and the aircraft are quite low. I always stop and watch them go by, such magnificent machines. This story is yet another telling as to why it’s the queen of the skies
11:30 for those wondering, 5G is the what a fighter jet might experience during tight evasive maneuvers. The fact that a plane as large as a 747 experienced that and didn't get ripped apart is a testament to how tough that plane is.
He bent both wings upwards out of skew 2 inches. In addition to ripping both stabilizers off the tail. The plane flew for nearly 20 more years after being repaired.
the excellent narrator, the text, the enactment, presentation is so PERFECT I become an addict of this channel; so human, so heroic; God bless those who died in air accidents and those who could survive. I think they all are heroes, for they helped the cause; the perfection of air safety.
I remember passing by this aircraft while it was parked after this flight. The aircraft I was on taxied by it on the way to the runway. It was a fair distance from our aircraft, but you could still tell there were parts missing. I remember thinking the horizontal stabilizers looked like pieces were missing, but that could have just been me reading things into it knowing that aircraft nearly crashed.
I've seen so many of these accidents where the flight crews believe their inner ears and not their instruments and start to think their instruments are wrong. The cpt seemed to jump the gun and panicked a bit with the engine restart without following the written procedure. I hope they let the crew continue flying but had everyone get further training in recovery, the engine restart procedure, managing the rudder and how the inner ear can be deceptive. Also so many of these involve a pilot becoming hyperfocused and ignoring the attitude indicator. I'm surprised there was no bank angle alarm to draw their attention to the roll. I can see why the FE thought the engines were having a problem with the terror of a potential crash looming and his body under such physical stress he focused on the indicators and not glancing at the throttles.
How the pilots managed to wrestle the plane back into level flight and land it safely after plunging that far and having severe damage is nothing short of a miracle. These pilots are truly remarkable. Every time I watch this episode I always have my jaw dropped as soon as they pull out of the dive and land the plane successfully without any deaths. Amazing job.
YOU ALMOST CRASHED INTO THE OCEAN, YOU REGAINED CONTROL ONLY BY THE SKIN OF YOUR TEETH, AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE OFFERED AN EMERGENCY LANDING, YOU'RE LIKE "nah fam the problem went away, I can get to my airport"
The captain wanted to keep flying to LA instead of declaring an emergency to land in San Francisco at first after coming out that dive falling out of the sky left me dumbfounded.
Well, since the plane can still fly, you have to consider all the options at hand I guess. You have less fuel left in the tank at LA, which might be safer for an emergncy landing.
@@amyschlegel1180It wouldn't have helped in this case, but it absolutely would in almost any other emergency. When you declare emergency, not only will the post-crash recovery be faster should it come to that, but also ATC can redirect planes away so that you don't collide in addition to providing vital data to the crew such as nearby runways, maintenance logs, instructor assistance, etc. 10 out of 10 pilots would declare an emergency in this scenario as long as they have the time. And they eventually did declare an emergency, though the dive should've been an immediate mayday call.
Actually, that passenger who was interviewed, basically said he saw other passengers needing a change of underwear. I don't think any of the "material" hit the engine fan blade though.
No the Chinese pilot is a true hero!It’s your American junk!We don’t never see this with European Air Bus crafts but they don’t use temporary employees like Boeing does to build the planes!
I used to live in an international house at Uni. Many of the women were from China. One day one of the ladies came to me and said if I ask her a question and she answers no really fast, that means she doesn’t quite understand what I asked her. She was in two Masters programs and one PhD. Her English was very good, but sometimes if she was confused by a situation, she’d say no fast and think about it and then might give me a more complete answer later. I think that’s what was going on with the Capt here. What was happening was so out of context he just didn’t understand
A British Airways Boeing 747 one lost power in its fourth engine after takeoff from LAX. US regulations required planes to declare emergency and land. But BA pilots told LA they would proceed to London and made it all the way to the UK without issues. ATC at LAX was shocked by their choice and the US FAA sought to fine the airline, upsetting UK regulators who deem it perfectly good practice to continue the flight on only 3 engines. US and UK authorities ended up arguing over it before they reached an agreement, US would not seek penalties from the UK but British Airways and other UK operators would not fly across the US with a failed engine.
and that wasn't the only time a BA 747-400 Rolls-Royce RB211-524 caught fire shortly after departure, either, there was that incident after departing PHX
This is my second time to watch this video. I forgot to like it the first time. This is an outstanding video, and I admire the pilots flying this plane with such skill!!! I enjoy this series so much because it shows people that we are human, made by God, regardless of our nationality!!
I squirted some oil on it an and it looked good. Besides i was late for my break.There were some slighty loose screws and bolts but they weren't really that loose, and some lock washers and cotter pins had fallen off from someplace who but knows where, and who cares?
Holy crap, how that 747 didn't break up in the skies is just amazing. Good old days of Boeing, unfortunately the Boeing of now is not like Boeing of old lol
Pilot error and an engine that failed on two previous flights. They forgot to close a bleed valve and attempted to start the engine at too high an altitude. It’s frightening to think pilots who rely on auto pilot have mere seconds to track down a problem before things go south.
Just imagine when AI is started to be implemented in flying of planes.. watch and this will end up happening. It will start Hallucinating, and fight for control for the plane.. with the pilot "I can't let you do that.... " LOL.
The problem with the airline industry is that they only allow overnight maintenance to troubleshoot very complex issues that can take days to figure out. I can sight numerous times when aircraft were sent to the gate before they were returned for the same issues. The recent problems at Boeing point out the changing mindset in the industry by supervisors and managers. Profits over safety while claiming that safety is priority one is commonplace today.
To be fair, after watching lots of these episodes, I don't think profits over safety is really a new issue. It's an old one and sometimes we get bursts of companies doing things right, and then greed kicks in and down we go.
16:47 Lesser crews would and have in fact died here; horizon or not. The Captain managing to put his crew together after such a beating and to save the craft after all that, despite the oddities of their behavior, must be in the end commended.
Eastern Flight 401 and China Airlines Flight 006 show the problem of tunnel vision. You don't all want to get fixated on the same problem. With 20 20 hindsight we know the captain should not be trying to fix the problem (landing gear light and engine failure respectively) but fly the plane. The flight engineer should be the one trying to diagnose the problem and fixing it. You can be a terrific pilot but if you are focused on something other than flying the plane, it will just continue doing the last thing it was doing.
This was addressed in other aviation incidents. The senior pilot claims alpha dog over the rest of the crew members, and they follow his judgement and don't doubt it, while at the same time never voice their own concerns. It's a societal flaw humans have.
Having ridden on a public school bus for years, in summer, with a driver that doesnt let the kids roll the windows down, I can tell you exactly what it smells like.
The chances of being in a plane crash are very slim. When you tally them all up on paper from all over the world, yes it's a lot, but if you asked each passenger how many times they have flown a plane it would be anywhere from 1 to 200 times or more. "It will never happen until it happens."
I think because they didn't have full access to all the recordings They forced a little bit too much blame on the pilots. Those pilots were amazing, recovering after the plane's pretty much upside down LOL landing in the condition it was in, everyone alive absolutely spectacular 💯💯💯
23:39 Without knowing what if any, contributions from Boing being causative to the incident may or may not have happened...... I have to complement Boeing structural engineers on designing and building an airframe that did not catastrophically fail after being so thoroughly tested by this incident.
It's INSANE that this plane didn't crash. Never seen such an extreme dive with the airplane breaking up that was able to come out of it with all human life preserved.
Totally agreed it takes a lot of calmness and nerve to deal with problem. It’s easily for others to sit in the comfort of their environment to point fingers
I was on a flight where we lost an engine. Luckily tho we were close to an airport. We all felt it. The pilot came.on and calmly said "ladies and gentlemen we need to make an emergency landing. Please buckle up and prepare for landing." It was silent and calm. Pilot managed to glide onto the runway no problems. Idk why the engine failed. But we made it with no injuries to passengers or crew
I am amazed the pilots were able to come out of what was their own self enduced emergency and the plane survived along with the passengers. Amazed feat of flying!
I love watching these because you see how much IS learned.. both mechanical and businesswise as well as Human behavior etc. .. Instead of merely blaming things on Pilot error" understanding WHY there was "pilot error". Rather than it merely implying a character fault.. maybe there is a sincere biological reason of our fallbility.
And he talked himself into confirmation bias when the other horizon indicators were showing the exact same thing. That was actually more reason to accept and use the information they provided.
The was an A-1 masterclass in flying that plane despite the plane's total lack of cooperation! I especially liked the captain's comment at landing: "I hope you enjoyed our ... uneventful flight." 😆
Seems like the Captan pilot from start, was only focus when he saw the 4th engine lost, to do everything he could to make it alle look normal, so he didn't have to make an emergency landing (which was something he really didn't want to do all the time). Instead of leaving the 4th engine alone or relaxing about it and spending more time to fix it and still have to do an emergency landing, which was his number one concern. The fact that everything was not going normal and he maybe had to make an emergency landing feared him so much that he did what he did is insane. He should have left the 4th engine alone and fly with 3 engines only to make an emergency landing immediately.
You can tell what kind of working enviroment flight crew is in when they plunge 30,000 feets and still wanted to go to the destination without declaring emergency. If I was a FO I would've punched cpt. face
Of all the air crash investigations that I've watched, this is the ome that gets me. A B747 tumbling from the sky, with passengers being thrown about the plane all thinking that death is certain, yet the pilots somehow managed to recover the aircraft and land it safely, remarkable! Usually once a plane stalls, thats it, it's the end but the fact that this one didn't crash after falling at such a speed and force, with zero casualties is truly great!
I salute this Taiwan flag carrier. I just flew with them last month. It was my first time flying with them in Business Class, not knowing this took place some 35 years ago.
This is basically how I fly in flight sims, often with Danger Zone blaring. Edgelording aside, I was so glad that this wasn't one of those "jetliner bellyflops into the ocean" stories :D
I’ve flown plenty of rickety planes in other countries that were probably duct taped together. Then hopped on a 747 to travel home and couldn’t feel the plane leave the ground nor the slightest bit of turbulence in the air. POINT: Experiencing a 747 spinning *THIS* outta control must be absolutely terrifying.
As a single dad with two teenage girls, I would suggest that if your plane is acting chaotically and was breaking apart, you might want to declare an emergency and land it. Skip Oakland.
To all the people who say “The pilots didn’t declare an emergency,” just so you know… Pretty much MOST Asians (most prominently the Chinese and Japanese) are more stubborn with asking for assistance, and will do mostly anything to reach a goal. It’s a trait they had since the ancient times and still is with them.
When I first heard about this incident, I was and still am amazed that the pilots were able to recover from this, and make it safely to an airport with zero fatalities. Simply incredible!
Im not
the airframe bent like a banana
The fact that everyone on this flight came so close to death but didnt is so much and the fact the captain ans pilots did everything to save everyone on the plane including themselves is amazing. I love these episodes where people survive.
Samee!
They caused it in the first place though. It was a perfectly good plane the entire time except for engine 4.
All they did was recover from a stall... lol you learn that a few days into pilot training.
Altitude and a plan. All you need
I’m amazed so many mistakes made by the engineer put them in the situation. There’s lucky to walk away from this. I honestly don’t think they were trained for what if scenarios happen. It’s always a combination of things that create disasters.
I can't recall ever seeing a plane damaged THAT critically on all parts of it and the pilots still producing a safe landing with no casualties. Bravo to these pilots
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@@chezsnailezwhat about the one from Hawaii that lost part of its roof/ sides
@@brennathecatlover4360 ~ ah the Cabrio 737. Poor flight attendent that got blown away from that...
@@chezsnailezand somehow people survived with basically only half a roof
With a little help from God...;-)
God hears your prayers....
"He got us into it but he got us out of it" that has never been truer in the aviation industry
This is why I would never ever fly in a fully-automated (pilotless) plane. "Figure out what's wrong" is not an order you can give a computer (at least, not yet). Trained pilots will try everything they can think of, including thinking waaay outside the box -- the Gimli Glider and British Airways 9 *and this plane*) are prime examples of that. In all those cases the pilots managed to bring the planes in against some very terrifying odds.
@@mnirwin5112indeed
Hahahaha, maybe for aviation. That line is my entire teenage life. Lol
It's also just as possible for pilots to make the situation worse, with spatial disorientation. The pilots here did not believe their attitude indicator even though it was correct and trusting it could've helped them regain control.
There can also be confusing warnings. Some planes will have a stall warning that stops going off when the plane has reached a very extreme angle, even though it is most definitely still in a stall, and the warning will return as the stall is reduced. That could confuse pilots, unless they just ignore the warning and fly the plane using the basic they learned on simple planes.
Don't worry. We will have electric planes soon, and also a bridge over the Indian Ocean.
The engineering of the 747 is truly remarkable. It's a sad to see it disappearing from the skies
The 777 is just as good or even better.
@@mlai2546 nope.
@@Dan_the_Great_ well you obviously haven't flown from either.
@@Dan_the_Great_ Why not?
God scary plane fall down of the sky
It takes investigators sometimes months or years to figure out why a crash occurs, but the pilots only have seconds, maybe minutes to figure out what went wrong and how to fix it.
Very insightful.
Agree. even with crisis training no-one truly knows how they'll react in a real situation
And, unlike the simulator, you might be falling from the sky while trying to figure it out. I have seen the view from a cockpit, and I think people are crazy to get into a tube that if you don't get out you die.
MH370 hasn’t even been solved and TWA 800 took 4 years to find the probable cause so that is true.
Thats why the Sully investigation is so important which made the investigators take human factor into account
this is probably the most insane story of a flight that did not crash.
The crew of JAL flight 123 ALMOST managed to land their crippled plane. Tragically, they were too late. The entire tail had come off so they had no control. It plunged out of control and hit a mountain in Japan. Most of the passengers died. The crash was blamed on poor repair work done on the rear of the plane.
@@largol33t1 no they didn’t, they had no chance to land it
@@largol33t1I think they lost control mid air
Agreed.
@@lindyt3942
That pilot through the windshield must have been just underneath the air refracting off the nose.
Speaking as an airline pilot, I can’t believe they chose not to declare an emergency after falling 30k ft. Pick the closest field and land.
China Airlines has(or, perhaps, had) a history of punishing its pilots for declaring emergencies, regardless of the reasons, its why pilots for that airline are often hesitant to declare an emergency since it can lead to lose of their jobs - even if they weren't responsible.
@@SuisfoniaThat's a very bad thing to do
if your going to die and you love your job but there is a way out of it but that make's you lose your job is just the worst thing ever
Very bad culture in the cockpit and the company at the time, reason I tried to avoid them when I lived in Asia (just like KAL)
The pilot wasn't in a mental position to make any decisions. He was exhausted.
Yes. He was no doubt shaken like everyone else. It was good that the controller asked about injuries, reminding the captain of what they'd been through, and then offering emergency status and diversion to SF.
How the tail and elevators stayed on that thing is remarkable. A testament to that great plane.
A testament to the builders and designers.
The 747 was the badass of the skies. There will never be another one like it.
Made in America!🇺🇸 😁
Always wonderful when they make it home!
D r ss 8:31
I think he panicked... And put yourself in his shoes for a minute. He knew reigniting engine 4 at that altitude wouldn't work... Just panic due to the engine failure and heavy cloud cover. He had zero visual reference and panicked as I believe nearly anyone would. They put that busted bird down without fatalities... Leave them alone... Respect them.
That's why training is so important. He should've never put the plane in that situation to begin with had he followed his training. He absolutely deserves criticism for that, but that doesn't take away the fact that the crew was able to correct the mistakes and save the airplane. So they deserve all of the praise for that at least.
Wow just wow I love it when an incident like this has a fantastic outcome!!
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Wow, what an amazing story. Had me on the edge of my seat!
How he landed is crazy .. the tail was gone .. that’s everything when it comes to landing 🛬
Plane built like a champ
Pilots and crew thank u
Passengers god blessed u
God hears all prayers...
In V V Y
Amazing how the plane didn’t break apart
Built Boeing tough.
China Airlines 611 meanwhile:
I would never trust those Chinese maintenance people and same goes with Made in China, LOL!
@@CreatorOfTheDream Because of a bad repair
@@CreatorOfTheDream it had a tailstrike 20 years ago never fixed 💀💀
China Airlines incident Flight 006 occurred on February 19, 1985. N4522V was repaired after this incident and operated with Malaysia Air for 1 year then it was sent to the Las Vegas boneyard for scrap. It was saved in 2002 and bought by a hindu philanthropist and repaired again and repainted as his personal plane. It was grounded for lack of maintenance and it was parked at Tijuana’s International Airport and abandoned there, where it still remains today rusting apart on the tarmac.
Nice. The pilots were able to recover the plane from their own self induced emergency!
Sounds like the pilot is a hero to save the airplane and everybody on board!!! Nice job
Incredible. I work extremely close to the landing approach at a major international airport. Sometimes coming and going I see the 747 going in to land. Where my parking lot is located I’m just to the right of the approach path, and the aircraft are quite low. I always stop and watch them go by, such magnificent machines. This story is yet another telling as to why it’s the queen of the skies
Same! And the f course ink e flying lol
11:30 for those wondering, 5G is the what a fighter jet might experience during tight evasive maneuvers. The fact that a plane as large as a 747 experienced that and didn't get ripped apart is a testament to how tough that plane is.
Miracle of God.
He bent both wings upwards out of skew 2 inches. In addition to ripping both stabilizers off the tail. The plane flew for nearly 20 more years after being repaired.
Old Boeing. Sigh.
@@DebbieTomkoSUNSHINE NO, miracle of quality engineers and manufacturing!!! GOD has nothing to do with this!!!
@@MrWolfSnack wow.
the excellent narrator, the text, the enactment, presentation is so PERFECT I become an addict of this channel; so human, so heroic; God bless those who died in air accidents and those who could survive. I think they all are heroes, for they helped the cause; the perfection of air safety.
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Well said! I agree.
I remember passing by this aircraft while it was parked after this flight. The aircraft I was on taxied by it on the way to the runway. It was a fair distance from our aircraft, but you could still tell there were parts missing. I remember thinking the horizontal stabilizers looked like pieces were missing, but that could have just been me reading things into it knowing that aircraft nearly crashed.
I've seen so many of these accidents where the flight crews believe their inner ears and not their instruments and start to think their instruments are wrong. The cpt seemed to jump the gun and panicked a bit with the engine restart without following the written procedure. I hope they let the crew continue flying but had everyone get further training in recovery, the engine restart procedure, managing the rudder and how the inner ear can be deceptive. Also so many of these involve a pilot becoming hyperfocused and ignoring the attitude indicator. I'm surprised there was no bank angle alarm to draw their attention to the roll.
I can see why the FE thought the engines were having a problem with the terror of a potential crash looming and his body under such physical stress he focused on the indicators and not glancing at the throttles.
Was what killed JFK Jr....
Curtisee of Hillary then had no competition in the NY senate primary.
this was very scary to watch because my grandfather was on this flight
i couldn’t imagine:/ glad he was ok!!!!
I bet grandpa had some stories to tell!
I bet grandpa had some stories to tell!
@@nancylongworth9617 why did you say it twice
It's nice to see one recover, usually that's not coming out of that kind of dive. Very lucky.
Not luck...God.
How the pilots managed to wrestle the plane back into level flight and land it safely after plunging that far and having severe damage is nothing short of a miracle. These pilots are truly remarkable. Every time I watch this episode I always have my jaw dropped as soon as they pull out of the dive and land the plane successfully without any deaths. Amazing job.
Bravo to the captain and flight crew! No time for talking, they were fighting for their lives and their passengers.
"Bravo" for what ! For failing to follow propper procedures and put the foot on the rudder pedal !
what a pleasant pleasant surprise. Thought for sure they were going down, What a pilot and crew!
I’d like more episodes where EVERYONE SURVIVES.
Life doesn't work that way. 😕
There's air France 358
@@rhuttrho88you gotta be so fcking negative
did you see Miracle on the Hudson
go in wiki and look for accidents w all survivors. So many and then they do have links to videos
Usually when you are spinning upside down and falling, you don't make it. Lucky they had altitude..
Had the incident happened during the night instead of the day, they wouldn't have been able to recover.
YOU ALMOST CRASHED INTO THE OCEAN, YOU REGAINED CONTROL ONLY BY THE SKIN OF YOUR TEETH, AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE OFFERED AN EMERGENCY LANDING, YOU'RE LIKE "nah fam the problem went away, I can get to my airport"
😂
Definitely a wtf moment. Good lord 😮
china airlines had a history of punishing pilots for declaring emergencies back then.
@@WreedTrimmeryea China is a CCP. Poor pilot
“Job not finished”
Truly a well built plane the 747 was to go through something like that and still fly!
I know!!! WOW.
The pilot free-falls 30,000 feet out of the sky and doesn’t declare an emergency that’s a man you want to learn something from. Should be a movie.
Great production special effects
Well done !!❤
The captain wanted to keep flying to LA instead of declaring an emergency to land in San Francisco at first after coming out that dive falling out of the sky left me dumbfounded.
That’s what I’m saying nobody else seems to be in shock over that in the comment section everyone would’ve been killed if ha decided that .
Well, since the plane can still fly, you have to consider all the options at hand I guess. You have less fuel left in the tank at LA, which might be safer for an emergncy landing.
Exactly
I thought the same thing. How could you nor declare an emergency? Baffling!!!
I agree but thank God he saved everyone on board!!!
And that landing was perfect
Was I the only one screaming "SAY YES !!!" at their screen everytime the Pilot DIDNT declare an emergency with the ATC.
Would it have made any difference? They were falling into the ocean and there was nothing anyone could’ve done to help them.
@@amyschlegel1180It wouldn't have helped in this case, but it absolutely would in almost any other emergency. When you declare emergency, not only will the post-crash recovery be faster should it come to that, but also ATC can redirect planes away so that you don't collide in addition to providing vital data to the crew such as nearby runways, maintenance logs, instructor assistance, etc.
10 out of 10 pilots would declare an emergency in this scenario as long as they have the time. And they eventually did declare an emergency, though the dive should've been an immediate mayday call.
Well at that point it had no use
Can’t believe he wanted to keep going
that part!!
Seriously. WTF!
Not if understand how China Airlines was back then
I don't blame him
the aircraft involved was a Boeing 747SP
but the episode shows a Boeing 747-200
(the aircraft is now abandoned in Mexico)
Ok nerd 🤓
@@PIG_e27 please watch what you are saying I'm not a nerd fella
I'm just saying what the type the plane was involved and it's condition right now
TY for being factual. Was wondering if the plane was still being used or not.
@@creepycrespi8180 there's a photo of the plane taken of 2021 and likey still standing today
wow
49:25 This got me right in the feels.
Right, reference startement at 48:00 -- Boeing failed pilots of the early 737 Max
This is what I'm looking for. The complete episode of China Airlines flight 006. Thank you for the upload.
Oh my gosh I would have died from a heart attack when the plane started plunging 😮
Holy 💩
Actually, that passenger who was interviewed, basically said he saw other passengers needing a change of underwear. I don't think any of the "material" hit the engine fan blade though.
@@Moo2ooblol, I would have pooped also.
The plane is the true hero here.
Yup. That thing held together somehow.
Exactly! Made in America 🇺🇸 🙌🏿 baby!😁🫡
No the Chinese pilot is a true hero!It’s your American junk!We don’t never see this with European Air Bus crafts but they don’t use temporary employees like Boeing does to build the planes!
@@goodfella5302 did you even watch the full video?
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I used to live in an international house at Uni. Many of the women were from China. One day one of the ladies came to me and said if I ask her a question and she answers no really fast, that means she doesn’t quite understand what I asked her. She was in two Masters programs and one PhD. Her English was very good, but sometimes if she was confused by a situation, she’d say no fast and think about it and then might give me a more complete answer later. I think that’s what was going on with the Capt here. What was happening was so out of context he just didn’t understand
It was a good recovery however alot of small mistakes can obviously be tragic.
A British Airways Boeing 747 one lost power in its fourth engine after takeoff from LAX. US regulations required planes to declare emergency and land. But BA pilots told LA they would proceed to London and made it all the way to the UK without issues. ATC at LAX was shocked by their choice and the US FAA sought to fine the airline, upsetting UK regulators who deem it perfectly good practice to continue the flight on only 3 engines. US and UK authorities ended up arguing over it before they reached an agreement, US would not seek penalties from the UK but British Airways and other UK operators would not fly across the US with a failed engine.
and that wasn't the only time a BA 747-400 Rolls-Royce RB211-524 caught fire shortly after departure, either, there was that incident after departing PHX
This is my second time to watch this video. I forgot to like it the first time. This is an outstanding video, and I admire the pilots flying this plane with such skill!!! I enjoy this series so much because it shows people that we are human, made by God, regardless of our nationality!!
My issue is, if that engine has had a history of issues, why even put it in the air going that kind of distance?
I squirted some oil on it an and it looked good. Besides i was late for my break.There were some slighty loose screws and bolts but they weren't really that loose, and some lock washers and cotter pins had fallen off from someplace who but knows where, and who cares?
Did you watch the video??? You sure your a pilot?? This is 100% pilot error.
Holy crap, how that 747 didn't break up in the skies is just amazing. Good old days of Boeing, unfortunately the Boeing of now is not like Boeing of old lol
It’s because Boeing chose accounts as CEO rather than engineers who know how to build good planes.
Yeah they can't even make it to cruising altitude without falling apart now.
boeing of old also had problems with the cargo door system
The MBAs came in and screwed it all up for an extra few bucks
I hope they’ve since changed the way the cockpit voice recorder stores data during flights.
Nope.
Pilot error and an engine that failed on two previous flights. They forgot to close a bleed valve and attempted to start the engine at too high an altitude. It’s frightening to think pilots who rely on auto pilot have mere seconds to track down a problem before things go south.
Just imagine when AI is started to be implemented in flying of planes.. watch and this will end up happening. It will start Hallucinating, and fight for control for the plane.. with the pilot "I can't let you do that.... " LOL.
I hope you've enjoyed our "uneventful" flight 🤣🤣🤣
Take the airplane and park in the desert never go back for it
The Brits would say, "We hope you have not been distressed"
The problem with the airline industry is that they only allow overnight maintenance to troubleshoot very complex issues that can take days to figure out. I can sight numerous times when aircraft were sent to the gate before they were returned for the same issues. The recent problems at Boeing point out the changing mindset in the industry by supervisors and managers. Profits over safety while claiming that safety is priority one is commonplace today.
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To be fair, after watching lots of these episodes, I don't think profits over safety is really a new issue. It's an old one and sometimes we get bursts of companies doing things right, and then greed kicks in and down we go.
16:47 Lesser crews would and have in fact died here; horizon or not. The Captain managing to put his crew together after such a beating and to save the craft after all that, despite the oddities of their behavior, must be in the end commended.
Eastern Flight 401 and China Airlines Flight 006 show the problem of tunnel vision. You don't all want to get fixated on the same problem. With 20 20 hindsight we know the captain should not be trying to fix the problem (landing gear light and engine failure respectively) but fly the plane. The flight engineer should be the one trying to diagnose the problem and fixing it. You can be a terrific pilot but if you are focused on something other than flying the plane, it will just continue doing the last thing it was doing.
This was addressed in other aviation incidents. The senior pilot claims alpha dog over the rest of the crew members, and they follow his judgement and don't doubt it, while at the same time never voice their own concerns. It's a societal flaw humans have.
14:11 “The smell of people urinating in their pants”. That’s really something you don’t think about when watching these crashes. It’s awful.
Having ridden on a public school bus for years, in summer, with a driver that doesnt let the kids roll the windows down, I can tell you exactly what it smells like.
This is frightening. Years ago I used to fly a lot. I'm fortunate that nothing irregular happened.
Same here. As a consultant I flew weeks after weeks for 15 years straight and was glad everything ok. It is scary in this situation
The chances of being in a plane crash are very slim. When you tally them all up on paper from all over the world, yes it's a lot, but if you asked each passenger how many times they have flown a plane it would be anywhere from 1 to 200 times or more. "It will never happen until it happens."
Why’d they take so long to declare an emergency?!?! Crazy
exactly!
They were busy
*Very nice documentary very well done*
Great Documentary. Glad it had a positive outcome.
I think because they didn't have full access to all the recordings They forced a little bit too much blame on the pilots. Those pilots were amazing, recovering after the plane's pretty much upside down LOL landing in the condition it was in, everyone alive absolutely spectacular 💯💯💯
and did they ever do anything with the recording redesign? I mean what 30 minutes? 60 minutes and rerecorded.. I mean can't they hold more these days?
I agree they had too much missing data to say it was the pilots fault
But there were certainly mistakes made that shouldn't have been made and things missed that an experienced crew shouldn't have missed.
23:39 Without knowing what if any, contributions from Boing being causative to the incident may or may not have happened......
I have to complement Boeing structural engineers on designing and building an airframe that did not catastrophically fail after being so thoroughly tested by this incident.
Anyone who works the night shift can tell you that 4 am is dangerous.
3 am
Nope, 0400 is the "witching hour" ime . However, we can compromise and say
0300 to 0400. That is when the stuff usually hits the fan, unexpectedly.
I trained a new guy last week. He fell asleep at 4. Another one who says he wasn't sleeping.@@patricktruchon9153
I recently worked my first overnight shift, and I can confirm that 4 AM is dangerous.
True. I am going on 23 years and still have those head bobbing moments from time to time.@@ahmedadventures1999
It's INSANE that this plane didn't crash. Never seen such an extreme dive with the airplane breaking up that was able to come out of it with all human life preserved.
37:27 - 37:37 - True story. A plane went down into the ocean because the crew was focused on a lightbulb that failed.
Apparently the wings were permanently bent upwards 2 inches from the stress of the flight, just insane.
Masterpiece of flying. Unreal.
It’s easy for the investigators to criticize put them in an extreme stress situation and see how they react and do. They are human being as well.
Totally agreed it takes a lot of calmness and nerve to deal with problem. It’s easily for others to sit in the comfort of their environment to point fingers
I was on a flight where we lost an engine. Luckily tho we were close to an airport. We all felt it. The pilot came.on and calmly said "ladies and gentlemen we need to make an emergency landing. Please buckle up and prepare for landing." It was silent and calm. Pilot managed to glide onto the runway no problems. Idk why the engine failed. But we made it with no injuries to passengers or crew
Really well done presentation. Good acting and insight into the complexity of flying a 400,000 lbs flying building
I am amazed the pilots were able to come out of what was their own self enduced emergency and the plane survived along with the passengers. Amazed feat of flying!
That would be an amazing amusement ride. Stay strapped in.
I love watching these because you see how much IS learned.. both mechanical and businesswise as well as Human behavior etc. .. Instead of merely blaming things on Pilot error" understanding WHY there was "pilot error". Rather than it merely implying a character fault.. maybe there is a sincere biological reason of our fallbility.
49:26 "& Perhaps, there is one other hero that day. The Boeing 747 itself".
Pilots are human beings and make mistakes they did however save the plane well done
11:17 says “I thought the plane just blew up in the midair” Truly a certified the the moment.
He had a reference the attitude indicator, he just didn't trust it.
And he talked himself into confirmation bias when the other horizon indicators were showing the exact same thing. That was actually more reason to accept and use the information they provided.
I have a feeling one of the mechanics was thinking, "now where in the heck did my 10mm wrench get to?"
The was an A-1 masterclass in flying that plane despite the plane's total lack of cooperation!
I especially liked the captain's comment at landing: "I hope you enjoyed our ... uneventful flight." 😆
OK passengers, let’s take a show of hands who wants to land immediately in San Francisco?? Everybody!!!!!
the fact that the captain landed with no power to the elevators, blows me away
This Captain let his pride get in the way. It took him too long to declare an emergency.
He was trying to save the plane, man.
This brings back memories
I only got to on the queen of the skies only once a decade plus ago! I lover it. I also love the 777 as I flew on her a lot of times.
Always travel alone or separately in few planes ✈️ most families die in one flight. My prays for all the pilots.
Seems like the Captan pilot from start, was only focus when he saw the 4th engine lost, to do everything he could to make it alle look normal, so he didn't have to make an emergency landing (which was something he really didn't want to do all the time). Instead of leaving the 4th engine alone or relaxing about it and spending more time to fix it and still have to do an emergency landing, which was his number one concern. The fact that everything was not going normal and he maybe had to make an emergency landing feared him so much that he did what he did is insane. He should have left the 4th engine alone and fly with 3 engines only to make an emergency landing immediately.
This was so scary to watch that I had to take breaks!
Mee too to read the comments land in San Francisco
idk why but this episode always b brings me to tears.
You can tell what kind of working enviroment flight crew is in when they plunge 30,000 feets and still wanted to go to the destination without declaring emergency. If I was a FO I would've punched cpt. face
🙌🏿👍🏿👌🏿💪🏿✊🏿🫡
Communist China in the 1980s, what else do you expect someone to say?
Of all the air crash investigations that I've watched, this is the ome that gets me. A B747 tumbling from the sky, with passengers being thrown about the plane all thinking that death is certain, yet the pilots somehow managed to recover the aircraft and land it safely, remarkable!
Usually once a plane stalls, thats it, it's the end but the fact that this one didn't crash after falling at such a speed and force, with zero casualties is truly great!
I salute this Taiwan flag carrier. I just flew with them last month. It was my first time flying with them in Business Class, not knowing this took place some 35 years ago.
Anyone else read the Wikipedia articles on these incidents so you know what happened before they actually say what happened.
*NO!*
Every single episode
No
That was gripping.
WTF-
Amazing!
I couldn’t imagine anything thing more terrifying. Like you know it’s over.
and then somehow it wasn't
This is basically how I fly in flight sims, often with Danger Zone blaring.
Edgelording aside, I was so glad that this wasn't one of those "jetliner bellyflops into the ocean" stories :D
Scary … A miracle happened!
I’ve flown plenty of rickety planes in other countries that were probably duct taped together. Then hopped on a 747 to travel home and couldn’t feel the plane leave the ground nor the slightest bit of turbulence in the air. POINT: Experiencing a 747 spinning *THIS* outta control must be absolutely terrifying.
I cannot even imagine
That looks like a terrifying scary rollercoaster ride out of control.
As a single dad with two teenage girls, I would suggest that if your plane is acting chaotically and was breaking apart, you might want to declare an emergency and land it. Skip Oakland.
My ex boyfriend was a pilot; he occasionally made this remark: “You’re only as good as your last landing”…
To all the people who say “The pilots didn’t declare an emergency,” just so you know… Pretty much MOST Asians (most prominently the Chinese and Japanese) are more stubborn with asking for assistance, and will do mostly anything to reach a goal. It’s a trait they had since the ancient times and still is with them.
Omg right!!! As an Asian myself that was my first thought 😭 we don't like asking for help or admitting it
That is probably true and they didn't want to reveal any weakness.