Thanks for the video, feeling more confident doing mine now. I've been sitting on calipers and wheels for over a year now, still haven't decided on tyres and rotors.
it's really not that hard, just go slow with the drill and use lots of lube. As far as wheels go, as I mentioned, you'll have a few more options without the need for spacers because the calipers are further out from the centre of the hub, the more difficult, but possible offsets, like +22 and such, will be easier to fit up once you've installed the new calipers.
best bit is that with the caliper pushed 15mm further out from the centre point there's actually more room behind the wheel spokes for the caliper which, as mentioned, allowed me to remove the wheel spacers I needed to allow my wheels to clear the original calipers. This might not be the case for all wheels, there's the potential that you could actually find that a spacer might be needed,l for clearance purposes, really just depends on the design of your wheels and their offset.
Short answer is no. but. Long answer is no due to the fact the rotors run the handbrake system internally and there are fitment issues due to the bolt spacing for the calipers being different, unlike the fronts that have the same spacing just different diameter bolts. Have seen adapters and such at times but generally the gains just aren't worth the effort, best to stick to a good rotor, pads and braided lines combo on the back with the stock calipers and rotor size and focus on improving the front with the benefits that the 350mm Evo 10 rotors bring.
yeah, definitely an improvement, less force needed on the pedal to get the same amount of deceleration compared to the 9's caliper, and they feel a little easier to modulate than the CT's brakes, you seem to have a better idea of how much pedal force you need to apply to achieve a certain degree of force at the caliper. It's a worthwhile upgrade.
no, unfortunately not, the circumference of the rotor is outside the swept area of the caliper and the difference isn't great enough to use a dog bone spacer. I did investigate this quiet extensively, just no way to do it unfortunately,, best option is to keep an eye out for a cheap set of 10 front rotors and do what I did.
You can use the same lines as you use on an CT (7,8,9) Evo. I had aftermarket Goodridge braided lines hooked up to my oem Evo 9 calipers and used the same lines on the Evo 10 calipers.
there's two factors to think about when it comes to the improvement that installing a bigger rotor brings, heat and leverage. A bigger rotor has more mass so it distributes any heat building up over a larger area, hence your rotors will run cooler... but... you're also increasing the rotational mass because you've got a bigger spinning disk to contend with, so the advantage in this respect is probably not there by only changing the rotor size from 350 to 355mm. Second is the leverage you have, but this doesn't change when you change the rotor size, only when you change the position of the pads, because the swept area is the same, you could, in theory, install a 500mm rotor, but if the pads are only touching in the same place as a 350mm rotor you've got the same leverage against rotation (actually you'd be worse off because now you're trying to stop a larger rotational mass with the bigger rotor). The only way to improve the braking power by installing bigger rotors is to increase the caliper (pad) distance from the centre, so you'd be back to installing brackets to move the caliper further out from the hub, which is very difficult to do, if not impossible (as it's impossible (afaik) to use brackets with CT Evo calipers so you can use bigger rotors than the oem 320mm units). So to conclude, no, it's not possible, or even advantageous, to use bigger rotors than the 350mm units on your CT Evo with the Evo 10 caliper mod.
So a bigger rotor gives you more braking power for a given force applied to the brake pedal, effectively it's s bigger lever, plus the larger rotor has more material to disperse heat. The reports coming back from people who have made this mod is that it's easier to modulate the brakes, easier to tell when you're approaching the point at which the ABS kicks in.
Well, I guess, although personally I feel videos without any background music are a bit sterile, and I have like 30,000 views of my videos (very small fry I know) and you're the first person to even mention the music, but duly noted, maybe I need to be more careful with the type (less percussion) and the volume. Cheers
Thanks for the video, feeling more confident doing mine now. I've been sitting on calipers and wheels for over a year now, still haven't decided on tyres and rotors.
it's really not that hard, just go slow with the drill and use lots of lube. As far as wheels go, as I mentioned, you'll have a few more options without the need for spacers because the calipers are further out from the centre of the hub, the more difficult, but possible offsets, like +22 and such, will be easier to fit up once you've installed the new calipers.
I've done the evo 10 upgrade and it's a big difference. I also used a 13.5mm drill but and a 14mm reamer to make it as accurate as possible.
Fills out the rim very nicely hey
best bit is that with the caliper pushed 15mm further out from the centre point there's actually more room behind the wheel spokes for the caliper which, as mentioned, allowed me to remove the wheel spacers I needed to allow my wheels to clear the original calipers. This might not be the case for all wheels, there's the potential that you could actually find that a spacer might be needed,l for clearance purposes, really just depends on the design of your wheels and their offset.
Hey was wondering if the evo x rare calipers can work on an evo 8,with evo 8 rotors?
Short answer is no. but. Long answer is no due to the fact the rotors run the handbrake system internally and there are fitment issues due to the bolt spacing for the calipers being different, unlike the fronts that have the same spacing just different diameter bolts. Have seen adapters and such at times but generally the gains just aren't worth the effort, best to stick to a good rotor, pads and braided lines combo on the back with the stock calipers and rotor size and focus on improving the front with the benefits that the 350mm Evo 10 rotors bring.
Okay thanks much bro
Hi. I'm looking to buy a pair of evo 10 calipers for my evo 8. Now you've had them on for a while would you say it's a worthwhile mod?
yeah, definitely an improvement, less force needed on the pedal to get the same amount of deceleration compared to the 9's caliper, and they feel a little easier to modulate than the CT's brakes, you seem to have a better idea of how much pedal force you need to apply to achieve a certain degree of force at the caliper. It's a worthwhile upgrade.
Thats great feedback and really much appreciated. 👍
Will the Evo 9 calipers work with the 350mm rotor
no, unfortunately not, the circumference of the rotor is outside the swept area of the caliper and the difference isn't great enough to use a dog bone spacer. I did investigate this quiet extensively, just no way to do it unfortunately,, best option is to keep an eye out for a cheap set of 10 front rotors and do what I did.
Are the lines interchangeable or do you need to buy Evo X ones?
You can use the same lines as you use on an CT (7,8,9) Evo. I had aftermarket Goodridge braided lines hooked up to my oem Evo 9 calipers and used the same lines on the Evo 10 calipers.
Will evo x rears fit evo 9 ?
no, not without custom hubs, way to much work and expense for the benefit provided
The evo x calipers fit with 355mm roto?
there's two factors to think about when it comes to the improvement that installing a bigger rotor brings, heat and leverage. A bigger rotor has more mass so it distributes any heat building up over a larger area, hence your rotors will run cooler... but... you're also increasing the rotational mass because you've got a bigger spinning disk to contend with, so the advantage in this respect is probably not there by only changing the rotor size from 350 to 355mm. Second is the leverage you have, but this doesn't change when you change the rotor size, only when you change the position of the pads, because the swept area is the same, you could, in theory, install a 500mm rotor, but if the pads are only touching in the same place as a 350mm rotor you've got the same leverage against rotation (actually you'd be worse off because now you're trying to stop a larger rotational mass with the bigger rotor). The only way to improve the braking power by installing bigger rotors is to increase the caliper (pad) distance from the centre, so you'd be back to installing brackets to move the caliper further out from the hub, which is very difficult to do, if not impossible (as it's impossible (afaik) to use brackets with CT Evo calipers so you can use bigger rotors than the oem 320mm units). So to conclude, no, it's not possible, or even advantageous, to use bigger rotors than the 350mm units on your CT Evo with the Evo 10 caliper mod.
Why add a bigger rotor for more rotational mass?? Evo 9 and 10 calipers still uses the exact same brake pads.
So a bigger rotor gives you more braking power for a given force applied to the brake pedal, effectively it's s bigger lever, plus the larger rotor has more material to disperse heat. The reports coming back from people who have made this mod is that it's easier to modulate the brakes, easier to tell when you're approaching the point at which the ABS kicks in.
@ Timi LOL really???
Just lose the music man, I had to stop watching as it bugged me to hell and back. This aint MTV, we don't need fcuking music.
Well, I guess, although personally I feel videos without any background music are a bit sterile, and I have like 30,000 views of my videos (very small fry I know) and you're the first person to even mention the music, but duly noted, maybe I need to be more careful with the type (less percussion) and the volume. Cheers