If you're looking for some detailed STLs to go with the terrain mentioned in this video, check out my Modular wooden walkways and scaffoldings: www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-modular-wooden-scaffolding-204654 knarbmakes.itch.io/modular-wooden-scaffolding
I really love this Idea, because then it is up to the players in a dungeon crawl to be making their own map. The "spotlight" just follows them and is always represented by that circular space. If they want to double back or figure out an alternate route they'll need to consult their own handiwork.
as a player, cool. but as a dm i feel like itd be over complicated to keep track of compared to the classic grid or hex maps, not to mention this plate isnt big enough for tactical combat with a decent amount of movement and vertical gameplay.
As a newer DM with not a lot of money in their pockets, this is amazing. I've got the crafting skills that I can put to use for this. If you get the chance, please make more videos like this regarding other terrain and things. I'd love to see them!
@@nathandavis7761 Yep, I even have a theory that grids promote better game play. Sure, hex maps and open maps are more accurate; but its the limitations that make for more compelling movement.
@@nathandavis7761 Of course, if you do wargaming and/or play 5e anyway, you might rather use a ruler than a grid since (trivia) in 5e the grid is a recognized house rule, not the standard, and you run on distance instead.
For the non-crafty, non-3d-printery ones among us that want all these terrain knickknacks you have some options: * Multiple companies sell premade terrain, the one that jumps to my mind because it's recent is Mantic's Terrain Crate boxes but there's quite a few, just buy the stuff, add the magnets, done. * Go to Etsy, there's a lot of people making and selling these things for a fair price. Again, just add magnets. * Check if you have a local makerspace or a service to print stuff, then go to Thingiverse or something, get some scatter and get it printed there. I'd incluse Shapeways and similar services here. Again, add magnets. * Get a crafty friend to make them for you, for a change they'd add the magnets :P
I have modular tiles that I've made from scratch and really, absolutely adore. But holy hell I'll be making 50 of those trays anyway. I have no problem with using my warm stone brick flooring everywhere and just saying "pretend you're in the snow" or "look out, this area is flooded," but having the visual effect is so much nicer and one snow based pizza saves me time making 20 snow themed tiles
I'm so glad I found this video. I was gonna make my magnetic dungeon pizza by cutting sheet metal. The pizza pan is genius and will save me so much tin snip cramping.
I have 6, dual sided circle terrains- so much fun to mix it with a lazy susan and scatter terrain - perfect for improvised combat. using metal and magnates is clever af.
The tree basing is great; especially the way that it thickened up and textured the trunks of the trees. "I'll have a Dungeon Pizza with extra Gelatinous Cubes."
If you want one large version for your table top, I'm considering making a two sided one using a metal dog crate tray that's 20.5" W x 29.5" long. Or I was considering using side by side cookie sheets for larger environments. Either way these seem really cool and this opens up so many more possibilities with sets and environments.
yep, gonna save this video, great job never thought about using Pizza trays! I am in the Navy and about to deploy and I have been trying to think of ways to play at sea, this magnet/pizza tray idea will be great! if something happens while at sea we can just simply pick up the pizza tray and stash it away! with the pieces still attached!
I’ve only made one dungeon pizza so far, though I eschewed a physical texture for a printed one that I covered in lamination sheets. Not quite as nice looking, but I can use dry erase markers on it for quick notes, extra details, areas of effect, etc.
I’m super inspired to try this. Would be good as another tool in the kit. I feel like it’s relatively costly and time consuming. But once it’s done there would be no better terrain for unprepared encounters
First, let me say this is great. I also thing with this approach if you needed to ever get more technical with a scene you can create thin sheets of clear plastic that you can draw and mark up with a dry erase marker, or pre-stage scenes they've not yet seen with magnets connecting furniture and walls to either side of the clear plate to hold them in place. This way you can do easy swap outs and the process would be more versatile for a greater length of a long session.
For sizing you could also go with Cookie Sheets. Equally cheap to buy, fits the full length of the pva foam, and you can create scenes that require a bit more size, like Docks and cathedrals. Again though. This is great, and really just opening up a bunch of ideas for me. Thank you.
I just got big ball baring myself and placed big round table. That way you can use any shape field and rotate table. Only downside you need to make second table (I made mine blend in) that is almost like a crocodile mouth over original table with ball barings on upper side that overlaps. So when it rotate the DM screen doesn't move.
These look really good. The only issue I am seeing is they do not support small spaces, like corridors, very well without additional walls. Plus I can see some issues if the group is not all near each other and fighting the same thing. Love your trees.
These are fantastic, will definitely try some of these out. Been making some houses from sprues and model boxes but can’t wait to try the pizza tray one
Great stuff! A definite step up from the large sewing grid (yet another folded board!) and dominoes we used to use to delineate dungeons way back in the Dark Ages™ (1979). The Ultimate Dungeon Terrain is a great concept but one that still makes me say "I don't see any frogmen with explosives" when I see it written as UDT. ;-D I am happy that the trend over the last 40 years has been to make terrain that looks much more like a diorama but is still playable. Cheers!
I've done something similar on smaller scale with blank CDs but instead of the centerpiece they're scatter terrain for a tabletop war game (think 40k set in LotR) for randomized battlefields. Process: 1) slather the "top" (not the side that stores the data) with some elmer's glue and get it spread over the whole surface, slap on some notebook paper and let it dry. 2) Cut styrofoam - the beady stuff that usually gets used for packing/shipping works fine for this, the key is a sharp blade! - into various rock shapes and arrange as desired before gluing to the dried notebook paper. Don't worry about your rocks looking perfect! 3) Once they're dry gloob a nice helping of spackle onto the rocks/CD and fill in any gaps between your styrofoam you don't want before spreading it to the edge of the CD for some nice texture/ground variation. 4) When the spackle is dry hit the whole thing with 2-3 coats of mod podge. 5) With our protective layer dry, you're ready to move on to paint and flocking!
I've only DM'd once before and it was 8 years ago. I also have zero crafting skills, own absolutely no crafting equipment, I have no idea what you're talking a lot of the time (hobby knife? mod podge? flocking? wet blending?), and I probably don't have enough time to learn how to craft cool things in addition to the other hobbies and responsibilities that I have, as well as learning to be a DM in the first place. But I'm a really DIY-oriented person, and the quality of this stuff is making me drool. I am so tempted to give this a shot...
This looks amazing, your players are lucky to have such a considerate DM, I however would have 0 motivation to do all that stuff - I bearly got into paiting minis recently, and still don't really have time to do it. But more power to you dude, it's really admirable, just not for everyone.
my cheap sculpting paste is blened news paper in water strain out the extra water and mix in a crap tone of glue and I added dollar store sand then you just slap it on and if you want bigger arias I suggest using like cardboard to make it higher then added the mix the thicker it is the loner it takes to dry but it works and it's cheap
Great way to use UDT and magnets by using pizza pans with easy to use thin foam. Using the pans make a thinner UDT, light weight and survives transport. Now if you make six or more, stack them and plan to fly it could involve a bag check. Will be making a few of these, thanks.
This pizza plate thing is genius!!! No perfectly crafted houses that you'll stop using after that campaign is done. I'm dying to get a group together and make this for everyone
Crushed that like button because I need patience. The proof? I've had this tab open for 3 weeks and haven't had the patience to sit down and check it out until today :P
For Trees, you can buy cheap dried mosses at most crafts store, or even walmart. find something that fits your tree idea. Personally, i use reindeer moss and Sphagnum moss.
@@KnarbMakes Best part is, its not hard to go out and find moss that you can grow in a culture (just look up any video on making terrariums, and the channel will usually have a video on moss culturing) and then drying is really easy too. so you can actually get an unlimited supply of moss, if you put the effort into it, without really investing much money at all.
very cool. I had several squares of wood lying around so I used those instead of pizza pans. they equate to 16" x 15" boards... fits perfectly on the table we play at with players stat sheets able to go on the table as well.
for a couple of years now I've used "recreational geometry" to describe a fair number of different activities, but I could never remember where I got it. Thank you.
wow... i mean, who doesn't like pizza? specially if they look this yummy (in a geek way)! :D once again, top notch content! glad (and very thankful) i discovered your channel!!
@knarbMakes So I noticed that you have the UDT style terrain sitting on a large homemade battle mat. Which do you use more? I have a basic UDT but find it a bit constraining. I have been using a piece of brownish gray herringbone fabric that is "generic dungeon colored" as a play mat. It works but lacks immersion. I have been toying with the idea of a magnetic battle mat. Iron powder in caulk /w paint, add sand and flocking, maybe 2x3 feet rectangular. Maybe double sided it with a smooth rolled brick texture on the back. This would allow the magnetic scenery and minis but also rolls up put away. Thoughts?
This is awesome. Any ideas for making them double-sided, or could several of them stack safely on top of one another for storage and transportation purposes?
You can abstract the chase a certain bit, keep the enemy in the center and move the outside players away with a relative distance. This is a sort of in between set of terrain that you can use for folks used to theater of the mind.
If you're looking for some detailed STLs to go with the terrain mentioned in this video, check out my Modular wooden walkways and scaffoldings:
www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-modular-wooden-scaffolding-204654
knarbmakes.itch.io/modular-wooden-scaffolding
Wow! Professor Dungeonmaster gives these a rare A+.
Thank you sir!
A great concept..... Executed in a great way..... Magnets! Who would of thought Dungeon Pizza would go Magnetized! Makes me regret my digital set up.
100% agree with Professor Dungeon Master, you knocked this out of the park!
The most terrifying thing in DnD:
When the DM randomly rolls the dice, frowns, then continues on like nothing happened.
Sometimes they do it just to mess with you :)
Back in the day they called that the 'Evil chuckle and dice rolling trick.'
I sometimes toss in a flat "oh" after asking for a roll, then laugh and say you saw nothing. We gotta keep you players on your toes.
@@angrytheclown801 That's cruel.
@@ariandynas Sometimes you gotta be cruel to be kind.
I really love this Idea, because then it is up to the players in a dungeon crawl to be making their own map. The "spotlight" just follows them and is always represented by that circular space. If they want to double back or figure out an alternate route they'll need to consult their own handiwork.
as a player, cool. but as a dm i feel like itd be over complicated to keep track of compared to the classic grid or hex maps, not to mention this plate isnt big enough for tactical combat with a decent amount of movement and vertical gameplay.
As a newer DM with not a lot of money in their pockets, this is amazing. I've got the crafting skills that I can put to use for this. If you get the chance, please make more videos like this regarding other terrain and things. I'd love to see them!
Thanks Sam! I have more ideas for terrain like this in the future
I love the circle idea but I'd probably end up getting rectangle pans since I'm a grid headed monster
Cookie pans! Brilliant
Grids are good. Grids are nice. Also you can create crazy ass maps with grid maps.
Grids are superior for technical crazy people like me. (and probably you)
@@nathandavis7761 Yep, I even have a theory that grids promote better game play. Sure, hex maps and open maps are more accurate; but its the limitations that make for more compelling movement.
@@nathandavis7761 Of course, if you do wargaming and/or play 5e anyway, you might rather use a ruler than a grid since (trivia) in 5e the grid is a recognized house rule, not the standard, and you run on distance instead.
For the non-crafty, non-3d-printery ones among us that want all these terrain knickknacks you have some options:
* Multiple companies sell premade terrain, the one that jumps to my mind because it's recent is Mantic's Terrain Crate boxes but there's quite a few, just buy the stuff, add the magnets, done.
* Go to Etsy, there's a lot of people making and selling these things for a fair price. Again, just add magnets.
* Check if you have a local makerspace or a service to print stuff, then go to Thingiverse or something, get some scatter and get it printed there. I'd incluse Shapeways and similar services here. Again, add magnets.
* Get a crafty friend to make them for you, for a change they'd add the magnets :P
Absolutely, good outline! There's many places to get furniture like this, go out there and explore!
I have modular tiles that I've made from scratch and really, absolutely adore. But holy hell I'll be making 50 of those trays anyway. I have no problem with using my warm stone brick flooring everywhere and just saying "pretend you're in the snow" or "look out, this area is flooded," but having the visual effect is so much nicer and one snow based pizza saves me time making 20 snow themed tiles
Ok. A circular game space is so simple and genius. Holy crap I'm in love and will spend the next week making basic terrain types
I'm so glad I found this video. I was gonna make my magnetic dungeon pizza by cutting sheet metal. The pizza pan is genius and will save me so much tin snip cramping.
Fantastic! Yeah, the form factor is right there for the taking.
I have 6, dual sided circle terrains- so much fun to mix it with a lazy susan and scatter terrain - perfect for improvised combat. using metal and magnates is clever af.
The tree basing is great; especially the way that it thickened up and textured the trunks of the trees.
"I'll have a Dungeon Pizza with extra Gelatinous Cubes."
That's like putting pineapple on pizza, I love it!
Love of magnets + dungeon craft... A New Highscore!
Thanks for sharing these, great idea!
Glad you like them!
If you want one large version for your table top, I'm considering making a two sided one using a metal dog crate tray that's 20.5" W x 29.5" long. Or I was considering using side by side cookie sheets for larger environments. Either way these seem really cool and this opens up so many more possibilities with sets and environments.
“Wish i had more patience” he says as he puts more effort into a tree than i do planning my next session
You’re a true Artist and Master of your craft. I’m sincerely impressed.
This video had no right being this entertaining:) We are making terrain! Great job.
Awesome! Thank you!
yep, gonna save this video, great job never thought about using Pizza trays! I am in the Navy and about to deploy and I have been trying to think of ways to play at sea, this magnet/pizza tray idea will be great! if something happens while at sea we can just simply pick up the pizza tray and stash it away! with the pieces still attached!
I’ve only made one dungeon pizza so far, though I eschewed a physical texture for a printed one that I covered in lamination sheets. Not quite as nice looking, but I can use dry erase markers on it for quick notes, extra details, areas of effect, etc.
those pizza trays are an awesome idea and the scatter terrain suits it perfectly
Reminds me of random encounter stages from jrpgs like saga frontier. I can already hear the music!
I’m super inspired to try this. Would be good as another tool in the kit. I feel like it’s relatively costly and time consuming. But once it’s done there would be no better terrain for unprepared encounters
I'm never gonna make this with my 2 left hands but I do very much enjoy watching someone do something well
First, let me say this is great. I also thing with this approach if you needed to ever get more technical with a scene you can create thin sheets of clear plastic that you can draw and mark up with a dry erase marker, or pre-stage scenes they've not yet seen with magnets connecting furniture and walls to either side of the clear plate to hold them in place. This way you can do easy swap outs and the process would be more versatile for a greater length of a long session.
For sizing you could also go with Cookie Sheets. Equally cheap to buy, fits the full length of the pva foam, and you can create scenes that require a bit more size, like Docks and cathedrals. Again though. This is great, and really just opening up a bunch of ideas for me. Thank you.
I like this concept...gotta try this. Thanks for the link to the Professor and the video.
Cheers!
I just got big ball baring myself and placed big round table. That way you can use any shape field and rotate table. Only downside you need to make second table (I made mine blend in) that is almost like a crocodile mouth over original table with ball barings on upper side that overlaps. So when it rotate the DM screen doesn't move.
I kinda wanna see a picture of this. Sounds super interesting
These look really good. The only issue I am seeing is they do not support small spaces, like corridors, very well without additional walls. Plus I can see some issues if the group is not all near each other and fighting the same thing.
Love your trees.
These are fantastic, will definitely try some of these out. Been making some houses from sprues and model boxes but can’t wait to try the pizza tray one
That eva stuff is awesome!
Love the colors on the grass pizza........wait 😏
Heh, missed joke opportunities there. Thanks!
Great stuff! A definite step up from the large sewing grid (yet another folded board!) and dominoes we used to use to delineate dungeons way back in the Dark Ages™ (1979). The Ultimate Dungeon Terrain is a great concept but one that still makes me say "I don't see any frogmen with explosives" when I see it written as UDT. ;-D I am happy that the trend over the last 40 years has been to make terrain that looks much more like a diorama but is still playable. Cheers!
Haha, yeah! Crafting stuff has come a long way. In another couple of years, we will have hyper detailed stuff like the train/diorama builders do.
I've done something similar on smaller scale with blank CDs but instead of the centerpiece they're scatter terrain for a tabletop war game (think 40k set in LotR) for randomized battlefields.
Process:
1) slather the "top" (not the side that stores the data) with some elmer's glue and get it spread over the whole surface, slap on some notebook paper and let it dry.
2) Cut styrofoam - the beady stuff that usually gets used for packing/shipping works fine for this, the key is a sharp blade! - into various rock shapes and arrange as desired before gluing to the dried notebook paper. Don't worry about your rocks looking perfect!
3) Once they're dry gloob a nice helping of spackle onto the rocks/CD and fill in any gaps between your styrofoam you don't want before spreading it to the edge of the CD for some nice texture/ground variation.
4) When the spackle is dry hit the whole thing with 2-3 coats of mod podge.
5) With our protective layer dry, you're ready to move on to paint and flocking!
I love that you use Mindthief and Scoundrel
Love the trees! Great video my man!
Thanks Troy!
Genius, I like this a lot. Going to try this out myself for sure.
Those look really good. Actually using pizza pans is a brilliant idea!
Thanks Guy!
I've only DM'd once before and it was 8 years ago. I also have zero crafting skills, own absolutely no crafting equipment, I have no idea what you're talking a lot of the time (hobby knife? mod podge? flocking? wet blending?), and I probably don't have enough time to learn how to craft cool things in addition to the other hobbies and responsibilities that I have, as well as learning to be a DM in the first place.
But I'm a really DIY-oriented person, and the quality of this stuff is making me drool. I am so tempted to give this a shot...
Definitely going to try this!
Brilliant idea using cheap pizza pans for your UDT! Earned a sub from me!
This looks amazing, your players are lucky to have such a considerate DM, I however would have 0 motivation to do all that stuff - I bearly got into paiting minis recently, and still don't really have time to do it. But more power to you dude, it's really admirable, just not for everyone.
This looks awesome! I'm very inspired to try it myself now :)
Brilliant video, as always
Thanks again!
That was some pretty creative and cool modifications to UDT!
my cheap sculpting paste is blened news paper in water strain out the extra water and mix in a crap tone of glue and I added dollar store sand then you just slap it on and if you want bigger arias I suggest using like cardboard to make it higher then added the mix the thicker it is the loner it takes to dry but it works and it's cheap
I like the pizza pan rooms, I might replicate or make something myself, wood love to see a deep sea version with coral and amenities
Great way to use UDT and magnets by using pizza pans with easy to use thin foam. Using the pans make a thinner UDT, light weight and survives transport. Now if you make six or more, stack them and plan to fly it could involve a bag check. Will be making a few of these, thanks.
Very good Knarby! 🐶🥰
With hard work, endless amounts of time, and resources, anything is possible.
This pizza plate thing is genius!!! No perfectly crafted houses that you'll stop using after that campaign is done. I'm dying to get a group together and make this for everyone
Gonna have a mess around with some eva foam and a heat gun after this. Keep em coming
Give it a go Bill! Excited to see what you make.
I use the same pizza box as a stand for spray painting my minis haha, I love Gino's
This is bloody brilliant!
WOW. Great video. Thanks.
geniusly simple! love your chanel
I’ve been missing out. I feel like there are a few episodes I have to catch up on. These are the best versions I’ve seen of the DUT
Thanks Franky. Totally wanted to make myself a set when I saw Dungeon Craft's idea.
Some really good ideas thank you
Thanks for watching!
Solid set of tips.
Very clever idea. Would love to see some sci-fi versions of this .....
Love your work man
Love the painted Gloomhaven minis
Hehe this vid got my creative juices flowing, love the idea 🤘🏻👍🏻
OMG the pizza plate hack genius
I'm a simple man.
You reference Professor DM, I like
Very cool ideas!
Magnets are genious, thanks!
When I start making mine I might experiment with putting rubber feet so they dont spin when touched
Crushed that like button because I need patience. The proof? I've had this tab open for 3 weeks and haven't had the patience to sit down and check it out until today :P
For Trees, you can buy cheap dried mosses at most crafts store, or even walmart. find something that fits your tree idea. Personally, i use reindeer moss and Sphagnum moss.
Yeah! I've been using moss recently for this purpose, it looks great!
@@KnarbMakes Best part is, its not hard to go out and find moss that you can grow in a culture (just look up any video on making terrariums, and the channel will usually have a video on moss culturing) and then drying is really easy too.
so you can actually get an unlimited supply of moss, if you put the effort into it, without really investing much money at all.
This is maybe a simple concept but oh god i feel so dumb now to never, ever even consider something like that. This is perfect for me, thank you
Nice and easy idea!
I learn alot thanks
Very cool!
My fuse went during this video. Clearly too awesome for my house’s wiring
LOL, I hope you were able to fix it.
very cool.
I had several squares of wood lying around so I used those instead of pizza pans. they equate to 16" x 15" boards... fits perfectly on the table we play at with players stat sheets able to go on the table as well.
Great idea!
"Only to air brush then back to brown for that natural wood color... which they started out with." Lmao
Beautiful.
for a couple of years now I've used "recreational geometry" to describe a fair number of different activities, but I could never remember where I got it.
Thank you.
you wife when your making the pizza pan trays : where's my makeup brush...
nice creative!
Actual pizza pans... genius!
D&D pizza is a neat idea
This video need more views
This was awesome
Holy sh*t this was amazing to watch
I definitely can’t do this even after watching this
You can do it! give it a shot.
To keep the trays stable during play, maybe add some feet to the reverse?
Good idea! I was just going to mount them on the lazy Susan with a magnet so they should stay pretty stable, but it's a similar concept.
Nice!
wow... i mean, who doesn't like pizza? specially if they look this yummy (in a geek way)! :D
once again, top notch content! glad (and very thankful) i discovered your channel!!
Thank you 😋
The moment I saw Dollarama I knew it was going to be good
real nice
Using pizza plates is a really good idea.
Great video! The only question I had was what thickness of eva foam you used/ does it matter
I used the thinnest one I could find. The only thing thickness affects is the strength of the magnets through to the pan.
@knarbMakes So I noticed that you have the UDT style terrain sitting on a large homemade battle mat. Which do you use more?
I have a basic UDT but find it a bit constraining. I have been using a piece of brownish gray herringbone fabric that is "generic dungeon colored" as a play mat. It works but lacks immersion. I have been toying with the idea of a magnetic battle mat. Iron powder in caulk /w paint, add sand and flocking, maybe 2x3 feet rectangular. Maybe double sided it with a smooth rolled brick texture on the back. This would allow the magnetic scenery and minis but also rolls up put away. Thoughts?
This is awesome. Any ideas for making them double-sided, or could several of them stack safely on top of one another for storage and transportation purposes?
I stack mine and they store fine!
I see that ginos box!! A fellow Canadian
I find that swearing a lot is a good substitute for patience.
what happen if the player want to kite the enemy and go outside the pizza?
You can abstract the chase a certain bit, keep the enemy in the center and move the outside players away with a relative distance.
This is a sort of in between set of terrain that you can use for folks used to theater of the mind.
Best way to get a like, I swear. XD Genius.
Yes
Real well done!!!!
Thanks dude!
awesome. doing this.
Is there any online curso since 0? i would really like to learn how to created those type of thing.
can you get a lazy susan ring without the spice rack?