Ozai made his father Azulon to remove Iroh from the position of Crown Heir bcs his son got killed in the siege of Ba sing se and bcs Iroh chose to surrender instead to conquer the capital of the Earh Nation and to grieve the death of his son,ozai was made the heir to the throne and bcs Zuko was seen as useless Ozai and Azulon made the deal to get rid of Zuko but his mother made the deal to kill Azulon at the price of Zuko being kept alive and the night right after Ozai was made the heir Zuko's mom assassinated Azulon and vanished,but still the single obstacle in getting rid of Zuko remained Iroh who kept Zuko under his wing and despite being older than Ozai,Iroh was still the strongest
@@grimreaper1221wait what? Azulan disagree thats why in exchange for disrespecting his 1st son iroh he was anger and told to ozai to killed his first son to feel what iroh is being truu but when azula speak of it there mother hear it and killed azulan before they killed zuko.. and stop are made next ozai claiming the throne for himself... but iroh was always the one and true succesor of the throne.. 🙂and him and zuko being like a father son make it better they both restored thier honor.. iroh became a father to zuko and zuko became a son to him that filled there void☺ one of the will writen characters.
Also this was before Kung Fu was a thing, which in this world is the main thing keeping order in China. So back then things must have been pretty lawless
For every kid saying non-sense listen, Oogway and Kai took an oath to gain strength together and never hide anything from eachother but after Oogway getting healed by the pandas, Kai felt betrayed because he found an extra source of gaining strength by taking "Chi" and was going to Oogway but Oogway without a talk fought Kai till he was banished, Hence Kai is a broken villain not pure Evil or has a sense of revenge but wanted to prove Oogway wrong
He is pure evil what are you on about? Dude wanted to conquer the world and would kill anyone in his way. Revenge on oogway was first but he had no intentions to stop there. You act like if i worked side by side with the devil himself and betrayed him that makes the devil not a bad person. Remember, he used the power the pandas taught to essentially kill the very same pandas, THEN they fought. He wasn't exactly betrayed so much as one of them realized the importance of life and didn't want to warmonger anymore where the other found greater need for power and death.
@@bluefiremarkii For your info, They both took an "OATH" to gain strength whatever the circumstances were. They were the warriors of their time but after Oogway realizing that he was wrong he didn't even bother to have a word with Kai but instead fought him
@@hassanhameed6673 bro, like i said Kai began to essentially kill the innocent pandas that saved their lives. If we are friends with a soldier or general and we were saved by a village, you also probably wouldn't stop and talk if they're currently committing genocide against them. Oogway stopped him, Kai refused to back down so they fought. Fighting was inevitable. Kai is cool and all but I'm not going to act like a genocidal maniac was the good guy here
Oogway was young and ambitious. He is the one who united all master, he saved China before po ever did. China wasn’t flowers and butterflies, there was constant war and oogway later put all that a side to unite China.
Those who were born good can turn bad if they don’t learn. Those who were formerly evil learned the errors of their paths and can do good. Failing is the best teacher
He was young and had great ambitions, doesn’t make him a bad guy, he learned from his mistakes and got better. His path is to be studied, not judged. At the end he was better than most.
@@craigarkensaw dont forget about the "raise him like a pig for slaughter" bit. Before voldemort screwed up and used harry's blood for his ressurection, the plan was for harry to die die, not die and come back.
@@brianarnold8666 yeah, that’s what I meant. I felt very bad for Harry, but it was the only way to stop Voldemort, so he wanted him to know that. That’s why he asked Snape to tell him at the proper moment.
Actually Oogway sent Tai lung to a jail where he can't even move for 20 years for just stealing. Even rapists didn't get such punishment. It will be a miracle if Tai Lung didn't turn into a villain
Tai lung assaulted shifu and tried stealing the dragon scroll,which oogway glorified to look like a mystical artifact(also bro could solo anyone other than oogway)
@@thA_Firelord Oogway felt that Tai Lung wouldn't understand the meaning of the Dragon Scroll. His reaction after seeing it in the first movie prooves it.
Can’t blame tai lung for becoming a villain he did everything shifu told him to he was told he was going to be the dragonwarrior for a long time and he gets rejected after that he has no purpose that was his life goal
And that’s why I loved Oogway. He wasn’t always good and enlightened, but he learned from his mistakes and sins and redeemed himself. That’s why he tried to persuade Kai into doing the same thing when they fought again in the Spirit Realm.
Oogway was also the one, or one of the 4 who sealed away the real dragon warrior which is quite literally a dragon for the same reason, Ambition. The 4 beings who sealed him were the 4 Divine Beasts in Mythology as you may know. It's unfortunate only Oogway remained
They both wanted to conquer China by force. Maybe they wanted a better future for their people in a unified country. (Knowing China’s bloody history and wars) The thing is, Oogway had a change of heart when the Pandas taught him how to give Chi, he learned a better way to achieve peace. But Kai never had that change and saw the Pandas’s power as a new method to become stronger and use it to keep conquering. Oogway failed to convince Kai otherwise, so he had no choice but to stop his beloved brother.
No he wasn’t, oogway was fighting with his best friend to keep his family and home safe. Just bc they are leading an army doesn’t mean he’s evil, or an evil conquer. He was leading an army to protect his home, his birth place. Not to be evil, and just like you said the army didn’t strike anybody first bc they are defending. Not attacking like the other side
The point was oogway and kai were good and probably protected china from invaders and kai turned evil leading an army doesnt make you evil its like saying the allied forces having an army was also bad
@@Marcism_1234 I miss my Grandmother bro :( She's the only person who's been with me the entire 25years of my life, now that she's gone I'm now all alone :(
I donno why when i listen the music of oogway passing, my tear will fall , hard to breathe. There is something in that music make me feel all alone. I feel that all when silence but feel calm at the same time. Anyone feel this too ?
Oogaway realised because he was saved , kai didnt know how it felt , probably because of that kai wanted to continue what they were doing, but because oogway changed , he betrayed kai for good cause but it is still a kind of betraying in kais perspective so ya. Pretty cool ig
Oogway also use a staff when confronting Kai. So it's really safe to say he did achieve said enlightenment since he's wielding a sort of halberd in the battlefield flashback.
He just helped him from the wrong path as a brother, and for Kai's own good Kai was never been told as a bad guy in history. That's how he love his brother.
The oogway was not a bad guy, he stated once that he was 1000 years old, and as we know, it was first dynasty of china when he was born, so he was a leader of a forming country, and he was conquer of the China, as at the time there was a lot of tension around mongolia and korea, I believe that just accidentally got the dynasties wrong, as Panda kung fu is happening in 3rd dynasty, and the conquest of those countries started in the 4th, but in every way, China was right in those battles, although cruel way, but common in time, so oogway was a good guy fighting for China's peace
Nah, the crazy old turtle is tweaking. Should have left kai to do his thing after he had saved him. I guess he should have never saved oogway at all. Kai legit loved him like a brother
1. Your grammar is really bad. 2. You can’t expect Kai to turn Good like Oogway. They both went down the path of destruction but because of the pandas healing Oogway turned good and saw the error of his ways. While Kai just went back to what they were doing before the pandas helped Oogway. 3.That means Oogway betrayed Kai because Oogway stopped what they were both doing and banished Kai because he didn’t become good like Oogway.
But the thing is that Kai wants to become very powerful to protect Oogway from getting hurt again. Like Oogway made Kai more evil instead of talking to him.
Or oogay found that he made mistakes and he tried to make good to the world he changed his way of live but kai was greedy and selfish thats way he wanted more power
Odin and Hela=Oogway and Kai They were evil conquerors but Odin and Oogway have been changed by something that can make them feel regret about what they have done.
Or those are traditional Chinese weapons, and he led an army to defend his against an oppressor and or conqueror. Maybe they even overthrew a tyrant. If overthrowing a tyrant is the case then their weapons would have been crafted from what materials they could gather.
The scene where he's leading a army he uses guandao and after learning chi he uses staff. Hope you people know that weapon choice reflect's one character
It is better to poop in the sink than to sink in the poop. -master oogway
what the actual fuck??! ahahahaha
Bro bro bro noo
@@dracobandz5726 if she says we need space. Her sister shall take her place. - also master oogway
@@JosephnuclearmanBased name and based jokes
Better to poop in the bed then to bed(have sex) in the poop- amber heard probably
Like Uncle Iroh in Avatar.
Dude was the highest ranking general, he clearly had a successful past but changed after his son died.
Uncle Iroh was the Crown Prince before Ozai, things changed after Ba Sing Se
Irohs story is a masterpiece!
Ozai made his father Azulon to remove Iroh from the position of Crown Heir bcs his son got killed in the siege of Ba sing se and bcs Iroh chose to surrender instead to conquer the capital of the Earh Nation and to grieve the death of his son,ozai was made the heir to the throne and bcs Zuko was seen as useless Ozai and Azulon made the deal to get rid of Zuko but his mother made the deal to kill Azulon at the price of Zuko being kept alive and the night right after Ozai was made the heir Zuko's mom assassinated Azulon and vanished,but still the single obstacle in getting rid of Zuko remained Iroh who kept Zuko under his wing and despite being older than Ozai,Iroh was still the strongest
@@grimreaper1221Azulon never agreed at ozai terms of removing iroh as his heir
@@grimreaper1221wait what? Azulan disagree thats why in exchange for disrespecting his 1st son iroh he was anger and told to ozai to killed his first son to feel what iroh is being truu but when azula speak of it there mother hear it and killed azulan before they killed zuko.. and stop are made next ozai claiming the throne for himself... but iroh was always the one and true succesor of the throne.. 🙂and him and zuko being like a father son make it better they both restored thier honor.. iroh became a father to zuko and zuko became a son to him that filled there void☺ one of the will writen characters.
Once oogway said "yesterday is history, tomorrow is mystery but today is a gift. That's why its called the present"
Such a powerful line.
Fr, an actual useful line instead of those useless sex jokes the other master Oogway makes.
Monkey from lion king right?
"If her age is on the clock she is ready for the co-"
- the English language
I’m literally not surprised history literally had records of people conquering stuff around similar time periods like this 😂
But of course someone of your status (Emperor of Viltrum) would know.
@@ceasarsblog1447 we bring free healthcare to all planets in the universe
Also this was before Kung Fu was a thing, which in this world is the main thing keeping order in China. So back then things must have been pretty lawless
For every kid saying non-sense listen,
Oogway and Kai took an oath to gain strength together and never hide anything from eachother but after Oogway getting healed by the pandas, Kai felt betrayed because he found an extra source of gaining strength by taking "Chi" and was going to Oogway but Oogway without a talk fought Kai till he was banished,
Hence Kai is a broken villain not pure Evil or has a sense of revenge but wanted to prove Oogway wrong
Faxs
He is pure evil what are you on about? Dude wanted to conquer the world and would kill anyone in his way. Revenge on oogway was first but he had no intentions to stop there.
You act like if i worked side by side with the devil himself and betrayed him that makes the devil not a bad person.
Remember, he used the power the pandas taught to essentially kill the very same pandas, THEN they fought. He wasn't exactly betrayed so much as one of them realized the importance of life and didn't want to warmonger anymore where the other found greater need for power and death.
@@bluefiremarkii For your info, They both took an "OATH" to gain strength whatever the circumstances were. They were the warriors of their time but after Oogway realizing that he was wrong he didn't even bother to have a word with Kai but instead fought him
@@hassanhameed6673 bro, like i said Kai began to essentially kill the innocent pandas that saved their lives.
If we are friends with a soldier or general and we were saved by a village, you also probably wouldn't stop and talk if they're currently committing genocide against them. Oogway stopped him, Kai refused to back down so they fought.
Fighting was inevitable. Kai is cool and all but I'm not going to act like a genocidal maniac was the good guy here
Stupid logic
The only way to find enlightenment is to walk through the darkness how best to see the light
W COMMENT 😊
We've found our new oogway
Both sides of the Ying and Yang...
You don't always need darkness to stay in the light
Thats why you should never comment on this topic 😂
Bro spitting theories from his ass
That was mentioned in the movie
The ambitious conqueror face 😂😂😂
Being forced too choose between savior and Healer no wonder Oogway kept his eyes closed
Oogway was young and ambitious. He is the one who united all master, he saved China before po ever did. China wasn’t flowers and butterflies, there was constant war and oogway later put all that a side to unite China.
If she's Nine She's Mine.
- Master Oogway
💀💀💀💀
Muhammad would disagree
@@heneraldodzz4978Isaac would disagree too, he likes them at 3
@@hellothere5797Source
@@hellothere5797 Issac Newton??
"Whats better? Being born good? Or overcoming your evil nature through a great deal of effort."
Those who were born good can turn bad if they don’t learn. Those who were formerly evil learned the errors of their paths and can do good. Failing is the best teacher
He saw the error of his Oogways.
Light is brightest in the dark.
He was young and had great ambitions, doesn’t make him a bad guy, he learned from his mistakes and got better. His path is to be studied, not judged. At the end he was better than most.
Everyones got a past. Dumbledore was planning on conquring the world. He just didn't get as far in that
And even when he was stopping Voldemort, we learn that he had to do questionable things “for the greater good”
@@craigarkensaw dont forget about the "raise him like a pig for slaughter" bit. Before voldemort screwed up and used harry's blood for his ressurection, the plan was for harry to die die, not die and come back.
@@brianarnold8666 yeah, that’s what I meant. I felt very bad for Harry, but it was the only way to stop Voldemort, so he wanted him to know that. That’s why he asked Snape to tell him at the proper moment.
Why this story is too relatable with Odin and Hela's story.
Actually Oogway sent Tai lung to a jail where he can't even move for 20 years for just stealing. Even rapists didn't get such punishment. It will be a miracle if Tai Lung didn't turn into a villain
Tai lung assaulted shifu and tried stealing the dragon scroll,which oogway glorified to look like a mystical artifact(also bro could solo anyone other than oogway)
@@thA_Firelordhe was also said to have caused a great deal of devastation to the village below the temple on his way to steal the scroll.
This kid is just dumb
@@thA_Firelord
Oogway felt that Tai Lung wouldn't understand the meaning of the Dragon Scroll. His reaction after seeing it in the first movie prooves it.
Can’t blame tai lung for becoming a villain he did everything shifu told him to he was told he was going to be the dragonwarrior for a long time and he gets rejected after that he has no purpose that was his life goal
“Oogway had converted by then, and saw the ERROR of his ways”
“There are no mistakes”
Yesterday is history,
Tomorrow is mystery,
But today is punishment.
-Oogway the Conqueror
That is why they call it is called slavery
-Oogway the Conqueror
He's enlightened but that never meant he was always good
Or evil.
@Alusnovalotus well I think they attempt to hint that he was complicated and pretty ruthless until he had a change of heart could be wrong.
And that’s why I loved Oogway. He wasn’t always good and enlightened, but he learned from his mistakes and sins and redeemed himself. That’s why he tried to persuade Kai into doing the same thing when they fought again in the Spirit Realm.
THATS why it was the valley of peace!!
Nobody dared to enter his place
Master oogway and kai cenat? - gen alpha
I refuse to believe that. Oogway’s army could have been a good one.
This story is so identical to Odin and Hela
Oogway was also the one, or one of the 4 who sealed away the real dragon warrior which is quite literally a dragon for the same reason, Ambition. The 4 beings who sealed him were the 4 Divine Beasts in Mythology as you may know. It's unfortunate only Oogway remained
It’s never said he was evil it just said he led a army with Kai
Unless you assume Kai turned evil out of nowhere, it's more likely that they used to be the same but Oogway changed for the better.
@@matti.8465 yh he turned evil cos of when he went to the pandas he was obsessed with power
@@Idk-qi6pcif they had a army you don’t think they had power
@@mtmtae4020 you're talking our ur ass I never said anything bout an army
They both wanted to conquer China by force. Maybe they wanted a better future for their people in a unified country. (Knowing China’s bloody history and wars) The thing is, Oogway had a change of heart when the Pandas taught him how to give Chi, he learned a better way to achieve peace.
But Kai never had that change and saw the Pandas’s power as a new method to become stronger and use it to keep conquering. Oogway failed to convince Kai otherwise, so he had no choice but to stop his beloved brother.
No he wasn’t, oogway was fighting with his best friend to keep his family and home safe. Just bc they are leading an army doesn’t mean he’s evil, or an evil conquer. He was leading an army to protect his home, his birth place. Not to be evil, and just like you said the army didn’t strike anybody first bc they are defending. Not attacking like the other side
The point was oogway and kai were good and probably protected china from invaders and kai turned evil leading an army doesnt make you evil its like saying the allied forces having an army was also bad
Oogway is like Odin and Kai is like Hela
They always gotta hit us with the “…And then he woke up.”
This feels just like realizing john hammond was a villain
I can see him and iroh sitting down and having a nice chat over tea
There's an accident
-Oogway the Conqueror.
Like Dumbledore & grieldwaed in Harry Potter
Being a conqueror ≠ Bad person
You cannot be wise of the whole coin unless you explore both sides...
My student.... Without betraying your friend... Don't go to bed...
-- Oogway😂
Tell me you never watched kung fu panda without telling you never watched Kung fu panda
nah youre talking about yourself
@@Jammermt99 little child is hurt
@@Kalwarden69 you continue to talk about yourself in the 3rd person XD you should probably get that checked out
@@Jammermt99 womp womp womp😭😭😭😭I got hurt 🤣🤣🤣🖕🏽
@@Jammermt99 looks like someone is butthurt about a cartoon
Man old oogway just high all the time
"When will your realize? The more you take the less you have"
-Master Oogway
“Jesus can turn water into wine, but I can turn your grandmother into mine”
-Master Oogway
@@Marcism_1234 I miss my Grandmother bro :(
She's the only person who's been with me the entire 25years of my life, now that she's gone I'm now all alone :(
@@nnk9305srry bro
It is like the odin in marvel where he seals his daughter 😂
I donno why when i listen the music of oogway passing, my tear will fall , hard to breathe. There is something in that music make me feel all alone. I feel that all when silence but feel calm at the same time. Anyone feel this too ?
Never let bro cook again
Just like Odin and Hela 🫤
Kung fu panda lore goes crazy
This deserves a prequel
Oogaway realised because he was saved , kai didnt know how it felt , probably because of that kai wanted to continue what they were doing, but because oogway changed , he betrayed kai for good cause but it is still a kind of betraying in kais perspective so ya. Pretty cool ig
Actually, brother in arms🤓👆
Oogway also use a staff when confronting Kai. So it's really safe to say he did achieve said enlightenment since he's wielding a sort of halberd in the battlefield flashback.
"He who holds this long stick"
DreamWorks should make a movie on this story
Listen when watching
They are like Odin and hela from another universe🫢
The face tho-
Man, that animations are just brilliant🔥🙏🏻👍🏻
He just helped him from the wrong path as a brother, and for Kai's own good Kai was never been told as a bad guy in history. That's how he love his brother.
What if the positions were switched, oogway would be the villain and kai would become Po's master
Nah, Oogway is a tortoise and is 500 years old. Kai is just a normal mortal and would die by the time he hit his 80s.
Giant tortoises like Oogway can be hundreds of years old. And Kai is a Chinese bull and can only be a decade old or a little more.
Oogway and Kai = Iroh and Ozai.
Got it. 👍
The oogway was not a bad guy, he stated once that he was 1000 years old, and as we know, it was first dynasty of china when he was born, so he was a leader of a forming country, and he was conquer of the China, as at the time there was a lot of tension around mongolia and korea, I believe that just accidentally got the dynasties wrong, as Panda kung fu is happening in 3rd dynasty, and the conquest of those countries started in the 4th, but in every way, China was right in those battles, although cruel way, but common in time, so oogway was a good guy fighting for China's peace
You are really saying the truth. Thanks for this truth.
Maybe he took the mcu odin path
It's said he led an army of warriors with Kai, never stated he was an evil conqueror.
I liked the part where the video actually concluded
So, in other words, Uwe changed for the better saw the error of his ways, and Kai didn’t
Mainstream media when portraying Russia
In that way oogway betrayed Kai his eternal friend who saved his life 😢
Villains aren't born, they are made.
Wow. Even his weapon changed
Well, thank god they made a redemption scene in the 4th film
Kai supposed to change like Oogway why blame Oogway for turning good
I don't understand you
Maybe it's Cause he was not near death to understand his faults
Nah, the crazy old turtle is tweaking. Should have left kai to do his thing after he had saved him. I guess he should have never saved oogway at all. Kai legit loved him like a brother
Well, if you mean Kai has a right to redeem himself just like Oogway did, then yes, he can.
1. Your grammar is really bad.
2. You can’t expect Kai to turn Good like Oogway. They both went down the path of destruction but because of the pandas healing Oogway turned good and saw the error of his ways. While Kai just went back to what they were doing before the pandas helped Oogway.
3.That means Oogway betrayed Kai because Oogway stopped what they were both doing and banished Kai because he didn’t become good like Oogway.
Oogway and Kai movie would go hard
Well that was the point. Nothing to think about. The Change is the point
But the thing is that Kai wants to become very powerful to protect Oogway from getting hurt again. Like Oogway made Kai more evil instead of talking to him.
I think he did it to save oogway without pandas needed anymore😢😢😢😢
There is nothing more wise than leading a whole nation into battle and coming out as the victor
Just like Odin and Hela in Marvel
Miss oogway he is so cool a character. .iam talking to you kunfu panda 4
And now in his reincarnation he became a streamer.
Or oogay found that he made mistakes and he tried to make good to the world he changed his way of live but kai was greedy and selfish thats way he wanted more power
Just Like Oden
would definitely make a great story! dreamworks, listen: THIS, not some unnecessary sequel. oogway conversion arc would be sick af.
So basically oogway had a young kratos arc that’s sick Asf
Oogway life is like life of Ashoka
oogway studied the turtle hermit way...eat and sleep plenty..train ng very hard and pushing him self..achieving that kamahamaha
Basically odin from MCU 💀
Conqueror doesn't have to be evil.
Bruh, they lived in an era of war
Yes, remember. The winner wrote the history
Basically young kratos
would be better if the narration of this video is not like a robot
Odin and Hela=Oogway and Kai
They were evil conquerors but Odin and Oogway have been changed by something that can make them feel regret about what they have done.
Or those are traditional Chinese weapons, and he led an army to defend his against an oppressor and or conqueror. Maybe they even overthrew a tyrant. If overthrowing a tyrant is the case then their weapons would have been crafted from what materials they could gather.
Oggway good rest
Pro geniter of kung fu
Well he was head of chinas army but his near death experiences but him to realise a better bath was peace but ki never saw that
In the story of him fighting along Kai one can also observe spikes on his shell.
Showing more of a warlord on conquest.
Sun tzu
wow he was conqueror
The scene where he's leading a army he uses guandao and after learning chi he uses staff. Hope you people know that weapon choice reflect's one character
Ok hear me out, what if we heal a wounded artist?