Can You Make Bone Broth In A Pressure Cooker?

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  • @ExstTheOldWays
    @ExstTheOldWays Рік тому +101

    Hit it with an immersion blender for a min to get that milky white you're looking for. Its the aggitation that is missing in the pressure cooker.

    • @AK-tq7ju
      @AK-tq7ju 8 місяців тому

      Do you skim the fat before or after agitation?

    • @OWK000
      @OWK000 2 місяці тому +1

      My experience has been broth turns whitish when the cartilage starts dissolving. I don't know if it is the cartilage itself or just the total dissolution that starts taking place at that point. I think it just proves 2 hours of pressure cooking is not quite enough. In fact, I think an important benefit of the insulated pressure cooker is the energy boon of the "after cooking" after the power goes off which involves a spate of "slow cooking". I would not do a quick release. You need every bit of the after cooking. In fact when I am breaking down a whole huge turkey around Thanksgiving, by the time I've got it all broke down, wrapped parts up for the freezer, and I stuff all the bones in the electric pressure cooker with salt and water, I turn on the pressure cooker for two hours and go to bed and deal with the broth in the morning and it is excellent. I actually will bring it to pressure again in the morning to resterilize and make everything more liquid.

    • @OWK000
      @OWK000 2 місяці тому +1

      PS: Don't use the the greasy tail thing from the turkey in the broth unless you like a nasty gamey taste.

  • @JoeAuerbach
    @JoeAuerbach Рік тому +26

    Honestly, pressure cooker is about the only way I make stock anymore. So simple. I love it. Great call out about herbs, though.

    • @DerSaa
      @DerSaa День тому

      ... and nice use of bouillon powder! Lee Kum is the best brand!

  • @DerBMXFan
    @DerBMXFan Рік тому +37

    for tonkotsu I usually pressure cook the bones for 2-2.5 hours and after that i keep boiling it for about 30 minutes. that gives you that white broth instead of the clear one you made in the video.

  • @brucerobertson7457
    @brucerobertson7457 Рік тому +30

    Hi Jon. I've made "bone broth" (rich stock) in my Instapot every Sunday for the last four-ish years. I've found that cooking on high for an hour and then quick pressure release, give it a good stir/bash around with a wooden spoon to separate the joints and expose tissue, and then another hour on high and then natural pressure release will break down most of the connective tissue. And yes, adding the aromatics near the end delivers more flavour. I usually add some kind of pulse for additional vegetable protein. And yes, long high pressure cooking definitely caramelizes the stock, but I almost always roast some of the bones or feet or wings or pig skin. Thanks for the video .

    • @DAYanez
      @DAYanez Рік тому +7

      The responses in this thread have been most helpful. Thank you everybody

    • @jvallas
      @jvallas Рік тому +1

      @@jordypoeYes to the ramen enhancement!!

    • @felixb381
      @felixb381 10 днів тому

      Tysm! ❤ im making bone broth for the first time in instapot

  • @Uiruriru
    @Uiruriru Рік тому +13

    You inspired me to finally unearth the massive bag of chicken bones in the back of my freezer and make stock with this video. I'm doing it in a slow cooker, but the concept of the video finally gave me the push I need, at least.

    • @jonkung
      @jonkung  Рік тому +4

      It’s gonna be delicious

  • @Cindy1776g
    @Cindy1776g 3 місяці тому +3

    I have this same Ninja Foodi combination pressure cooker. It is fantastic. I love the automatic delay release and built-in thermometer.

    • @indy3240
      @indy3240 7 днів тому

      I have the same foodi but where is the thermometer lol

  • @jameshaulenbeek5931
    @jameshaulenbeek5931 Рік тому +12

    That's awesome!
    I would suspect the lack of milkiness is due to the pressure preventing as much cavitation, but I really don't know for sure. As I understand it, milkiness is from some of the fats emulsifying into the broth from the rolling and mechanical mixing of the boiling liquid.
    Maybe after pressure cooking, put it all in a stock pot and boil it for another 30 minutes to an hour, see what happens. That could get you that milky quality as well, for only a 3 hour cook time.

    • @ReubenNinan
      @ReubenNinan Рік тому +3

      I was thinking the same thing about boiling after the pressure cooker to whiten the broth!
      Honestly I might go and try this because I’m very curious now

    • @JoanEvangelista
      @JoanEvangelista Рік тому +3

      Or blend it with a stick blender?

    • @jameshaulenbeek5931
      @jameshaulenbeek5931 Рік тому +1

      @@JoanEvangelista maybe! It's definitely worth trying out

    • @frothywalrus
      @frothywalrus Рік тому +1

      This is it... the fat isn't emulsified into it.... I prefer it pressure cooked for this reason.

  • @RC-tg9ci
    @RC-tg9ci Рік тому +5

    Great stuff man! This is a great video on what to do. Keep up the good work!

  • @jorgegarcia-yj6cn
    @jorgegarcia-yj6cn Рік тому +4

    When making bone stock, i prefer roasting half, is pretty awesome the result

  • @DAYanez
    @DAYanez Рік тому +7

    If a chef as accomplished and professional as Zaddy Jon moves away from the cooker as it depressurises I no longer feel bad for doing the same thing

  • @anishpanchumarthy2451
    @anishpanchumarthy2451 Рік тому +6

    Pressure cookers are goated

  • @loati94
    @loati94 Рік тому +2

    I really think the white is a reaction from colagen/gelatin and fat with the movement of the boiling water. Because there's a fish dish in my country that's just made with a very fatty part of fish which has a lot of collagen, with tons of oil and some garlic. You just cook it while shaking it non stop and the oil ends up becoming a white creamy sauce. If you don't shake it, it doesn't' happen.

  • @theskeletoninyourcloset3618
    @theskeletoninyourcloset3618 Рік тому +1

    Way of Ramen has a lot of tonkotsu broth iterations, and he uses a pressure cooker for the final step. There's quite a bit of preboiling and soaking and rinsing of the bones beforehand, but his tonkotsu videos I believe still use pressure cookers. I do think also plenty of the comments here have some insight. But this is such good experimentation for this too, thank you for demonstrating!

  • @Raul28153
    @Raul28153 9 місяців тому +2

    if you want your stock to be clear son't simmer, keep it somewhere around 170 - 180F nad let ot go overnight. Then you can use the bones and pop 'em in the pressure cooker. For easy color Yellow and Red Onion skins.

  • @jvallas
    @jvallas Рік тому +1

    Well, yeah, I do it all the time (stovetop pressure cooker). When I do use the pressure cooker, I use a Helen Rennie technique that I'm still not convinced is safe: pressure cook (chicken feet or wings usually) for 90 minutes, then do not open the pot - leave overnight. Not telling anyone to do that, but I love my broth/stock. I'm guessing that all that time in a sealed chamber keeps it safe? (And hot for a long time, extracting lots of flavor?).
    I do usually pre-roast as well. I try to remember to add a couple T of apple cider vinegar from the get-go, to (supposedly) pull out all the nutritious stuff. And I do aromatics/mirepoix from the start. I toss everything but the broth at the end, because it's all spent.
    The advantage to your way of doing veg later is there's more room for water initially. I have a 6 qt cooker, and it limits how much broth I get. When I want a lot, I drag out my big old regular pot.

  • @fetatroll
    @fetatroll Рік тому +2

    Never thought of using a pressure cooker. When I need to make broth I always bring out the big ass pot and make a ton of it.

  • @-8_8-
    @-8_8- 10 місяців тому +1

    One other thing is be interested in is if there's a saturation point. My faberware 7 in 1 is quite small. A bag of bones from the Asian market is maybe 1/2-2/3 of the pot.

  • @TashJansson
    @TashJansson Рік тому +4

    the brown color of the broth also comes from the rests of blood, muscle and marrow that are on the bones. The thing is, thoroughly cleaning bones (soak them in vinegar etc) is so inconvenient :( I'd rather take the hit to the aesthetics of it than add a few hours of prep.
    Also it's been years cooking with the pressure cooker and I'm still terrified every time I need to vent it manually lol

  • @jamesphillips5236
    @jamesphillips5236 Рік тому +1

    I think the first video I saw of you was the tiktok that you did making bone broth out of an entire pigs head. Was very impressive watching you crumble the skull afterwards. Great to see how your content is growing :)

  • @mattstich7979
    @mattstich7979 Рік тому +2

    I really think the white is from emulsification of the fat. So using a immersion blender might give you that look and consistency.

  • @limitedgedition9670
    @limitedgedition9670 Рік тому

    I have basically no kitchen skills, but your videos motivate me to just get in there and practice.

    • @jvallas
      @jvallas Рік тому

      You probably have them; just haven't tested them out yet! 😁

  • @JDH3666
    @JDH3666 Рік тому +8

    Looks good. Thanks for this presentation . There is a lot of flavor in that fat you always discard. I always leave a bit and add some “hot peppers” to the concoction which keeps me a bit warmer in the winter. However in answer to your title question I believe the answer is no. Thanks again for your efforts. Cheers

    • @jvallas
      @jvallas Рік тому

      "Schmaltz" - great cooking fat. Especially with potatoes and onions.

  • @dianemarieevans9145
    @dianemarieevans9145 Рік тому +1

    Thanks John for another great video.

  • @ryanleung206
    @ryanleung206 Рік тому +1

    i really love these longform videos

  • @josephwirth3892
    @josephwirth3892 Рік тому +1

    im learning how to make delicous tasting soup. thanks

  • @davidh9844
    @davidh9844 3 місяці тому +1

    Growing up, we got mom's chicken soup twice, MAYBE three times a year. God invented the InstantPot, and my local farmer's marking has chicken thighs and legs for $0.69 a pound in a 10lb bag, I can have chicken soup whenever I want. Interesting idea about the aromatics afterwards, but I'm lazy. 1 med onion, 1 lg carrot, 2 stalks of celery, 1 parsnip, 1 turnip if you got paid that week. I've found 1 hour on high pressure is all you need, let it cool for as long as you're busy. And yeah, go about your day and don't worry about leaving the house with the stove on.

  • @lalliepillay8613
    @lalliepillay8613 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for sharing
    Really healthy easy and delicious

  • @edster42
    @edster42 Рік тому +2

    Hi Jon, I've got a couple of questions.
    1) Would the carcass of a rotisserie chicken be good for this recipe, along with the other components?
    2) For what you prepared, how many tomatoes would you have added if you had the chance?
    Thanks for your hard work - I'll be trying it this weekend.

    • @jonkung
      @jonkung  Рік тому +4

      I would supplement the rotisserie chicken with some chicken feet (2lb) for maximum collagen extraction. Or 1lb chicken feet and two carcasses.
      I would use 3 Roma tomato’s for this. Or some sun dried tomato’s.

    • @jonkung
      @jonkung  Рік тому +3

      Hope you enjoy it

    • @jvallas
      @jvallas Рік тому

      Canned tomatoes, especially some nice ones, add some great umami, too, IMO.

  • @madelinejones9745
    @madelinejones9745 Рік тому +1

    l appreciate the homemade quality the making of broth, thanks Chef Jon.

  • @justinerogers2770
    @justinerogers2770 Рік тому +1

    I have a smart ninja, will definitely try this bone broth

  • @zalibecquerel3463
    @zalibecquerel3463 Рік тому +1

    I'm fairly certain that while under pressure, the stock doesn't actually "boil".. instead, stays at (maybe) 120 C or 250F... but not bubbling. I don't have the temperature/pressure charts, and don't know what the PSI of an electric pressure cooker is.
    If so, there would be no agitation in the pot, meaning you get a clearer result, and no milkiness.
    My guess is if you wanted to chase the milkiness would be to cook under pressure for way longer (Maybe 4+ hours), so the proteins all break down severely.
    Other than that, I love your idea of only adding your aromatics after you've extracted the stock!

    • @freetiti3474
      @freetiti3474 11 днів тому

      It does make bubbles when boiling, whatever the pressure !
      Bubbles are water in gaseous state.
      This state is reached at boiling temperature (whatever the pressure).
      Basic physics knowledge.

    • @zalibecquerel3463
      @zalibecquerel3463 10 днів тому

      @@freetiti3474 In a pressure cooker, water doesn't boil vigorously because Dalton’s Law shows that increased pressure raises the boiling point, suppressing steam bubbles.

  • @ReubenNinan
    @ReubenNinan Рік тому +1

    Do you think you can achieve that milk white color by boiling the bones for a few hours after doing the pressure cooker method you detailed?

  • @johnfilin9725
    @johnfilin9725 7 місяців тому

    Thanks, Bro!!! Super video and explanation!!!

  • @thesqueak5474
    @thesqueak5474 Рік тому +1

    What presure cooker do you use? Is it the Ninja Foodi 14 in 1 8Qt pressure cooker and steam fryer with smart lid?

    • @jonkung
      @jonkung  Рік тому

      It is!

    • @thesqueak5474
      @thesqueak5474 Рік тому +1

      @@jonkung Thank you. Unfortunatly I ordered an instant pot. Cooking a vegan chilli recipe with it now.
      My dad and I suffer from gout and the thing you say about, if you're going to eat a vegetable, make it a vegetarian dish rings true.
      In my family it's traditional that the men are the ones who cook and unfortunately my Stepmum can't cook well; leading him to order more take out which hasen't helped with the gout.
      Dad had a heart attack recently and hasen't been doing too great, we both are major meat eaters but have been making more of an effort.
      I'm making it the food to take to him On Wednesday. Since Chinese food is our favourite and my training was more to do with pastry and generally more classical (french or Italian) than my other indian heratige your videos have really helped.
      Dad can eat food he likes and still be healthy. Hopefully my stepmum watches the links I've sent her to improve.

  • @cipcip55
    @cipcip55 Рік тому +1

    Can you just replace the pork bones with beef bones or are there things that need changing

    • @jonkung
      @jonkung  Рік тому +1

      You just replace them. I want to use beef bones next time.

  • @blackpotus1
    @blackpotus1 Рік тому

    Would you be so kind as to provide the make and model of your pressure cooker? Thanks.

  • @joshhoyt9283
    @joshhoyt9283 Рік тому +1

    but what if you did 48 hrs in the pressure cooker?

  • @buzzkill9469
    @buzzkill9469 3 місяці тому

    I have a large (40L) electronic pressure cooker that doesn’t have a slow cooker option. I’ve been unable to get that buttery silky mouth feel and i haven’t been able to achieve that dark brown/caramel color. Any idea what might cause that? I’ve been dividing the broth (post cooking) into ice trays if that helps.

  • @JulianStanley
    @JulianStanley Рік тому

    could you cook for longer in the pressure cooker? would that not make it more white?

  • @AlexMinor
    @AlexMinor Рік тому

    What kind of pressure cooker do you have?

  • @ahlimahs
    @ahlimahs Рік тому

    Are you going to do a live any time soon?

  • @JOHNKSTOCK
    @JOHNKSTOCK Рік тому

    Jon, could you tell me what kind of pressure cooker you used to make this delicious bone broth? I'd like to buy one for my kitchen here in Toronto. Thanks!

    • @jonkung
      @jonkung  Рік тому +1

      I have a Ninja Foodie but Instapots work great too and there are so many options now.

    • @jvallas
      @jvallas Рік тому

      Doesn't have to be electric, either.

  • @lukenguyen325
    @lukenguyen325 9 місяців тому

    What pressure cooker are you using?

  • @xJ9pQw2sR5
    @xJ9pQw2sR5 Рік тому

    What brand of pressure cooker ?

  • @DistractedPlatypus
    @DistractedPlatypus Рік тому

    Jon, did you salt this at all?

  • @tlanimasstool
    @tlanimasstool Рік тому

    Jon, would you ever add the ingredients (onion , garlic, ginger etc) to the pressure cook - if yes/no - why?

  • @thesqueak5474
    @thesqueak5474 Рік тому

    what do you call those boxes that you put the stock into. I want to buy some since they seem useful but I'm not sure what key word to search?

    • @jonkung
      @jonkung  Рік тому +1

      The containers? Cambros! The company is called Cambridge and they’re great.

    • @thesqueak5474
      @thesqueak5474 Рік тому +2

      @@jonkung Thank you. I feel like every time I comment on your videos it's to get the name of something. Thank you, you're one of the few who answer

  • @clayclifton3895
    @clayclifton3895 Рік тому +1

    ❤❤❤new necklace 🎉🎉🎉

  • @virtualplace2
    @virtualplace2 4 місяці тому

    Ahhh, You uses chinese powder chicken lee kum kee premiun boubillon...Great taste of Chinese restaurant!

  • @hilo1233
    @hilo1233 Рік тому

    Hi! i wanna ask if a fancy pressure cooker(not sure if that's the term for it) like the one in your vid is any more efficient or safer(won't overboil/leak, grandma had instances of forgetting to turn off the gas and worried cause i'm in university now) than something like a pot with a pressure cooker lid attachment(not sure what to call it, it's something my grandma uses to cook soup on the gas stove). There has been too many instances of the gas tank running out during chinese new year prep cause of how long the stock needs to be boiled 🤣.

    • @jonkung
      @jonkung  Рік тому

      Use these electric ones because they have a timer function and will keep it warm after it’s finished cooking. Instant pot or ninja.

    • @hilo1233
      @hilo1233 Рік тому

      thanks! I appreciate the answer

    • @jvallas
      @jvallas Рік тому

      I use a stovetop pressure cooker, and nowadays they're just as safe as an instapot (not my opinion; I watched a lot of videos when I was deciding to get one, and many authoritative sources said this). Do read the instructions one time through to make sure you cook smart with it, but it's truly no big deal. Edit: I don't think one is better than the other - it's what suits your way of doing things.

  • @Lanes3
    @Lanes3 Місяць тому

    You usually would want to boil it for 2-8 hours after to get it creamy. Pressure cooking and boiling should never be mutually exclusive when you're trying to extract and add gelatin & fat to your broth. An immersion blender after will help to further emulsify the broth.
    source: ive cooked over 50 batches of tonkotsu + paitan style broth

  • @froggystyle642
    @froggystyle642 Рік тому

    "hundreds of years"
    Thousands, or even tens of thousands. Pretty interesting stuff in and of itself.

  • @GigaRants
    @GigaRants 9 місяців тому +1

    I love when chefs bro science lol

  • @jvallas
    @jvallas Рік тому

    I read somewhere that a quick release with stock/broth causes the liquid to boil, and that isn't a desired effect. Anyone know if that's based in fact? I think it was a reliable source I got that from, but I wouldn't swear to it.

  • @Ko1234567890S
    @Ko1234567890S 7 місяців тому

    Do you have a halal grocer? That's where I get beef bones inexpensively

  • @BertJonesSon
    @BertJonesSon Рік тому

    If you have instant pot/air fryer combo, you can roast bones, then pressure cooker all in same pan, can walk away too, ez money

  • @richardF701
    @richardF701 Рік тому +1

    Oh my god, ever since you released that pressure cooker superior stock video I was so mad you didn't talk about making bone broth in a pressure cooker, haha.

  • @-8_8-
    @-8_8- 10 місяців тому

    Hi Jon. I like to think of overfilling my pressure cooker as whale breath... All over my cabinets.

  • @StanWatt.
    @StanWatt. Рік тому +4

    Dear heart, it saddens me to say this but it comes from a place of love and not malice from the barren tundra of NE Scotland...I have to dismiss your theory of bubbles pulverising the calcium in da bonezes. Liquids do not boil under pressure but upon its release. That well-known phrase, "Oh God..." comes from that place of terror when half your house is threatened by immediate disintegration from the hissy thang...I know it well...

    • @jvallas
      @jvallas Рік тому +1

      Thanks! You just answered a question I asked a few minutes ago.

    • @StanWatt.
      @StanWatt. Рік тому +2

      ​@@jvallas My pleasure! One of my grandmothers was given a present of a present cooker. As usual they never read the instructions; they just thought that they had to put the lid on and cook whatever it was they had to cook. Well, the lentils, onions, the meat, the water etc. plastered the bulk of the kitchen. The rubber sealant had released as it was designed to do but my father forced the lid off and released the Kraken... the scene was one of a complete catastrophe, like a whale had suffered a spell of projectile vomiting.
      A new fear of pressure cookers was hard wired into one side of dear granny's side of the family. A fear that would be realised when my brother, twenty years later when someone gave a pressure cook to him as a wedding present... However, I have two pressure cookers and use them a lot. My parents visited me once when I was using said potential bomb and they almost slid along the kitchen wall to get past the hellish laboratory. I said, reassuringly, " It's OK, I have read the instructions.".....

    • @jvallas
      @jvallas Рік тому +1

      @@StanWatt.
      You tell such a good yarn (by which I don't mean to imply it's untrue, only that I really enjoyed it). We do have to remember they have the potential for chaos, but we just need to respect them. I'd be very sad indeed if someone took my pressure cooker away!

    • @StanWatt.
      @StanWatt. Рік тому

      @@jvallas Why, thank you. I have three of them, all shiny and new, well two are. I'm sure that I have come close to splitting an atom in them. The closes I've come to seeing a whale was once on Huahine. A baby whale had made a yacht its mother, and it had lost over one hundred pounds in two or three days. Tourists were trying to rent any boat they could see, but the Tahitians were having none of it. Legally, they couldn't go anyway. They eventually managed to persuade the baby to follow them to find the elusive pod and to his mother. Two days later, it was back trying to suckle the yacht. I left Huahine to go to Bora Bora. Some three weeks later, one of my friends on Huahine let me know that the calf had died.

  • @Almaltz
    @Almaltz Рік тому +3

    Save that fat! Rendered fat is amazing for cooking with.

  • @tombrennan7673
    @tombrennan7673 11 місяців тому

    You didn’t blanch them to remove the impurities and you didn’t roast them.

  • @ClassicallyMish
    @ClassicallyMish Рік тому

    4 garlic 1 onion for me 😂

  • @justanothercomment4701
    @justanothercomment4701 Рік тому +1

    I watched this since I remember the video on the long method from years ago ua-cam.com/video/K8SlfieSCDU/v-deo.html
    This is a lot less stressful to watch!

  • @Zan823
    @Zan823 11 місяців тому

    I use roasted cows feet in my BB

  • @DerSaa
    @DerSaa День тому +1

    A B C C C

  • @felix121984
    @felix121984 Рік тому

    I still have not smelled your feet !

  • @gruntmanthesound
    @gruntmanthesound Рік тому

    Come on man, it's tonKOHtsu, not tonKAHtsu.

  • @gloryrod86
    @gloryrod86 Рік тому

    I always make mine with pigs feet, nice video

  • @BertJonesSon
    @BertJonesSon Рік тому

    Being able to leave it unattended is whole reason im addicted to instant pot