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When my mother was dying from cancer and suffering terribly physically and mentally with uncontrollable symptoms she said to me that she’s surely done her purgatory here on earth, and now I truly understand what she meant.
We have to pay for our sins! Much rather pay an earthly debt than purgatory!
Jesus paid the price of our sins.We have to be very pure to go straight to Heaven .Purgatory is a state of purefication 🙏🙏🙏😊
Saturday, July 6, 2024: Jesus said: “My people, you are seeing the tearing of the curtain in two in the Temple as a sign of the splitting of the Old Testament into the New Testament. With My supreme sacrifice on the cross and at every Mass, there is no need for the sacrifice of animals. I broke the darkness of evil with My Light. You will see another darkness on the day of My Warning, but I will bring forth My Light to dispel the darkness. I want My people to be prepared for the major events of this year. Have your refuges ready as you will soon see the coming tribulation when My refuges will be your safe havens from all of the evil ones and their weapons. You have the best weapons for your defense in My Blessed Mother’s rosary and My very Body and Blood in My Blessed Sacrament that will be worshiped at every refuge at the proper time.”
Jesus said: “My people, I know My people are suffering on earth from your human condition. Some people are suffering persecution for their faith in Me. Others are suffering from chronic pain, but the worst suffering are those people who are in mortal sin because they cannot appreciate My love. The souls in purgatory are also suffering not having My love nor My Presence. You, My faithful, are fortunate because you receive Me into your souls when you receive Me in Holy Communion, and when you experience My love in My Real Presence in My consecrated Host in Adoration. You love Me and experience My being with you throughout the day, especially in My tabernacle. Pray for the people to come to know Me in My Real Presence, and pray for the poor souls in purgatory.”
This is awful. Your statement is blasphemous and it is a denial of the gospel.
It’s funny that you mentioned about St. Faustina. A family friend, who is a Carmelite cloistered nun, sent a Divine Mercy book to me in 1998. When I read the part about the souls in purgatory, I became excruciatingly frightened that I asked God to permit me to spend purgatory while I’m still here on earth. This was the first time I heard the term, Dark Night of the Soul. I heard it from the same Carmelite cloistered nun who gave me the Divine Mercy book.
To this day (2024), it’s still painfully difficult for me to articulate the experience.
My unsolicited advice is this: make sure that you have an intimate relationship with God The Father, God The Son, & God The Holy Spirit BEFORE you ask God to grant you to experience purgatory here on earth. And, ALWAYS ask Mother Mary to cover & protect you with her mantle of maternal protection.
Thank you for your testimony and advice❤️🙏🌺🌺🌺
Sometimes I think some of us that suffer here on earth can help us lesson the time in purgatory, but maybe I'm wrong...I just found out that I've got breast cancer..amongst lupus and scleraderma and shougrens autoimmune disease and have been through the ringer with meds and tests..etc..I'm doing all I can to offer all of this up for the conversion of souls in purgatory as well as here on earth, I hope I save many! Tha k you for your videos they give me hope..God Bless you and your entire family❤
Very similar story for me. Many health issues. I've had chronic lupus flares for the past 2 years + other horrific stuff. I offer it up for the souls in purgatory.
God bless you
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The AMA discourages it saying it hurts the liver and in my case and in general that is not true. It cures so many auto immune diseases big pharm hates it. It has cured Hashimoto's disease and reumatoid arthritis in me. For Hashimoto's I started getting energy back in 3 days. It took 2 months to cure.
For reumatoid arthritis; the hip pain was gone in 3 weeks and it was cured in 2 months. Also have seen people with cancer get results since it resets the immune system. Big Pharma hates it. Sorry to say they are not in business to cure people.
Pray for the souls in purgatory.
I'm so sorry ❤️🩹 you are going to get through this! May you be blessed with awareness of the Holy Spirit with you in all your struggles.
@@k8eekatt Thank you both...and may we save as many souls through our Beloved Dear Lord and Savior!! God bless you and your families
Yes,Gods Blessings to You Both 💕My Heart breaks for You two🔥But comparing to eternity, Hopefully this will seem like a distant dream when you reach Heaven,better still!! Forgotten 🔥 You’re probably suffering for those of us who are still living too🥹May our Mother Mary,Bless You and keep you Both close to her Immaculate Heart and hold your hands♥️
I do not seek purgatorial experiences; they have come to me throughout my life, and I offer them up as they come for the Holy Souls, the Blessed Mother’s intentions or specific intentions. The progressive pain and loss of the past 20 years seems unbearable at this point; yet things can always be worse, so I try to be mindful and thankful of the positive aspects of my life: having all five senses, a roof over my head, adequate income, hot showers, air conditioning, and most of all the ability to serve and praise the Lord….I believe that’s what He wants to hear from us.
Please pray for me.
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Zeus, grant this person a long life in Valhalah with lots of beer and wenches and fighting and a bit of carousing too. Amen.
Ask the Holy Spirit to teach you and lead you ❤ Jesus sent the comforter to write God's laws on our hearts. Lord, please bless this person with your loving guidance and instruction. In your name we pray, amen.
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I have always felt like i am suffering, but i am physically healthy and all that.
I have never been religious in my life nor i dont even know of anyone religious but i have searched my whole life for some relief.
I study Jesus and the bible now and i am think i Will start prayer soon.
Praise God 🙏
It seems like I have been suffering most of my life so then I don't have to ask for purgatorial experience here on earth because I have a physically,emotionaly and whatever else and many time I offer it up for the holy souls in purgatory and for the conversion of my family members so hopefully this will shorten my stint in purgatory for
I have suffered all kind of things throughout my life
I’ve felt some type of purgatory as well not sure if it counts. But it felt like a trial. Mostly through demonic oppression. It has changed the way I think and the way I speak. (I would speak without really thinking and saying absolute nonsense, also I would struggle with pornography) God allowed it not only to draw me close but to experience the pain I was causing others. With that being said best thing you can do is reparation and praying for the souls of purgatory. Chaplet of Saint Gertrude is a great start.
Same here!! I’ve often wondered if Opression can be a form of Purgatory on Earth. I’ve been aware of this for about 3 1/2 yrs. My archdiocesan exorcist priest’s aid told me it takes about two years to go away with receiving the sacraments of Penance and Eucharist often and prayers I say multiple rosaries daily. Usually say at least 2 or 3 and it’s not at all easy. Praying aloud (even whispering) the Holy Rosary, keeps the attacks AWAY temporarily. Suffering with All types of “Sensory” issues if you know what I mean. It’s much less now and I’m forever grateful to Our Lord for allowing me the knowledge that I was in deep trouble spiritually. Praise Jesus. 😭🙏❤️🩹
You may like KristinsCross daily rosary on youtube. Don't give personal info as in the past their channel was hacked by a scammer, but the daily prayer with them is beautiful. @harvestingnow1571
I had that dark night of the soul in 2020 for a few months. I went through spiritual trials. I had doubts in my faith. I had to go through it. For the good of my faith.
I believe it !
Alvaro, it sounds to me like both you and your friend experienced “a dark night of the senses” as opposed to the dark night of the soul, which according to St John of the Cross is more protracted and much more intense.
During novitiate(I’m a former Friar)I received this grace-a loss of faith, dryness, and sudden inability to hear the Lord’s Voice. Thanks to my wise spiritual director, I emerged from this torment by following his counsel to be faithful in prayer.
One day, after several months of dryness I heard the Lord ask me, “ Are you ready?” I was shocked and replied, “Ready for what?” The Lord continued,”Ready to rely on Me and not the consolations that I send?”
It took me awhile to respond, since if I said “Yes” I could possibly spend the rest of my life never feeling His sweet presence. But if I said, “No” I would be saying I was only interested in the “sugar” (as you put it).
When I “Yes,” all the consolations I had been accustomed to returned, but I no longer cling to them. It’s OK with me if they come and go.
I meant to add that my experience in Novitiate was a dark night of the senses. I know all about physical challenges after being paralyzed myself and on a respirator five months, four more months in rehab, and two years in a wheelchair.
May God bless you and your family, Alvaro, and all those brave enough to read my posts! 😊
This scares me. I always feel very down and lonely and crappy most days so I can't imagine purgatory being so much worse. Why does it have to be this way??
It is not this way. It is just a scary story to make you give your money to criminals.
The only scary thing Is to lose your soul for ever, not Purgatory. Now go rant in ufo or new age videos. @@kevinkelly2162
@@kevinkelly2162 I see you are satan's minion, but the real question is do you know you are his pawn? The only story being told by a criminal is you telling people that satan doesn't exist and that it is all a "scary story" to get money from people. If you are so sure of this why troll a Catholic YT channel? It seems you are the one trying to convince yourself it isn't true and trying to drag as many people to hell with you as you can...Get behind us satan's minion. In Jesus's name, I pray AMEN.
Offer your suffering to Christ and pray EVERYDAY for the grace to be filled with Holy Joy. Every moment you get, ask for this gift. He wants you to be happy, despite your cross. God bless you 🙏 ❤
remember divine mercy sunday free of all sin and punishment ❤
We can also earn Heaven by cultivating godly virtues, the Cardinal virtues etc. This is the unique and special dimension of the Catholic Faith. We can choose to purify by overcoming our flaws and transmuting them to these holy virtues. Thank you for this important lesson. Very brave of you.
Mother Teresa of Calcutta and Padre Pio felt the same
I’ve asked to experience the sufferings for my mom and dad. It was difficult. I do also joke a little. I often refer to matching socks for a family of 11 my purgatory basket. It’s my least favorite chore. Matching socks🥴
One day I distributed Holy Communion in prison as part of our parish ministry.
The thought occurred to me that I was in purgatory - in a prison crowded with strangers.
I reflect and pray daily about purgatory.
Good insight. 👍🏻
I am not courageous enough to ask for this! But I do a daily offering to God the Father, Our Lady and St. Joseph. I do remember one time when I was 18, seeing so many of my peers just simply not coming to church any more, I felt a deep sadness, and felt I too, should quit going, but an image of me being a bulldog and hanging on anyway came to me, and I decided I will have that sort of resolve, like a bulldog, and hang on to the hem of Jesus' robe. I did this for a year. To my surprise, at the end of this, my brother, who is 5 years older than me, came back to the church. I was all like "yay! it's because of my sacrifice, what a surprise!" I found out later, he met a woman who was Catholic, and she was the one who made him return. Lol. Well, that's my life.
Another time, when I was in my 30s, I remember moving to this place, so cut off from my family and friends, I had an image come to mind of me setting foot into a desert. That lasted a long time. I had no spiritual consolations. In fact, after many decades, I eventually fell away from the church, and it was due to sadness again, of being cut off....not just spiritually, but from my family...it was odd. Like being forgotten...already dead to everyone. But that image in my mind of setting foot into a desert wouldn't leave me.
Wow, thank you for sharing your story. God bless you Alvarro.
I think I remember a priest saying once in his online talks .... Do not ask for purgatory unless your heart is sincerely desiring to help someone in need and you ask our Lord for the suffering of purgatory for a short while. But otherwise on a whim do not ask. Be humble and delight in the Lord always. When sufferings come offer it up to the Lord. He is our loving Father in Heaven.
Very interesting’ I think we all experience purgatory in this life ‘ whether we are aware of it or not’ looking at my own life I feel that I’ve experienced it to some degrees’ a low mood or a heaviness of spirit can be a form of it’I do believe we get glimpses of it
Thank you, Álvaro, for sharing your beautiful testimony. I did see a short about your accident and I remember thinking how brave and how blessed you were and you are.
I also know that the writer of “Get us out of here” went through a lot of suffering because he wanted to help the Souls in Purgatory.
I had a freaky accident 😢 the same day I had told the Lord (in prayer) with all my heart that I, too, wanted to help the souls in Purgatory.
As long as we keep praying our Rosary 📿 and keep trusting the Lord, we will be guided by The Holy Spirit in everything, even in our own prayer.
Lord Jesus, lead me to holiness, lead me to You; give me the strength to endure what Your Perfect Will has prepared for me; forgive all my sins and give me courage to never deviate from The Way, The Truth, The Life.
I got sick so many times in my lifetime so I don’t know 🙏🏻
Saint Michael has shown me a way to fix my frequent forgetfulness of the Fear of the Lord: to be constantly spiritually united to the Holy Souls in Purgatory. It is like suffocating in some black fire, but the holy greed makes me happy and spiritually comforted in this state as I am sure I am not wasting my time. Maybe the Lord doesn't let me feel it all since I am so weak.
I had those same discs repaired. With me they put a bracket with screws. Later on that repair caused other discs to begin to fail. It was very painful before surgery. I spent months on my couch in pain. From may to september of 2020. My left arm was wortless. The pain would travel from shoulder to forearm. I was by myself. I had no help. Even through and after my surgery nobody came around to help or check on me. I never felt so alone in my life.
The loneliness is just as much of a suffering. God was with you the whole time, allowing it. Hoping that you rely more on him and not on the creatures of this world who come and go like the wind.
Thank you for explaining different parts of the dark night of the soul. Thank you for sharing your experience of purgatory. Wow. God bless you!
I'm happy you're okay! That stuff is seriously scary :S!
I want to do my Purgatory here, on Earth. I just don't want it to upset my family. I don't want it to be so I couldn't help my wife raising our little kids. But, most of all, I want to spend as little time as possible in Purgatory, and I have a lot to make amends for.
Together with all angels and saints
Great video!
I have often wondered how your neck is doing. If you have to get shots in your neck for the pain or if you go to a chiropractor or physical therapy. That was a terrifying event
I have some very minor pains in my neck and left leg - sometimes my forearms - but literally I’m 95% back to normal and usually feel great!!!
Praise God 🙏
Wooow!! Thank you for sharing. 🙏
I was seeking answers to the questions i had twice because i was lost and confused at a point i was about to commit a great immoral sin. I was praying to Guardian Angel to show me a sign. There was a night in a dream i was taken to a dungeon by this voice who I now think itd my Guardian Angel when i walked there i was hearkng scarry scream fire. Suffering i could hear that from the scream and i heard someone tormenting. When i woke up in a fear i thought it was just a scarry dream, this happened again when i was in darkness of my lifetime the dream was similar at this time i was asked by the same voice if i wanted to be there, i woke up in a fear again and i that time i realized that was my answer what i was askkng my Guardian Angel , God provided the answer thru my dream. I dont think i could handlebthe real view of purgotory or hell like St Faustina was shown. Dream was customized to me. My faith is stronger than ever today. God has shown me his existence and love in the dream several years before. Perhaps pray so your answer will be given to you in different way
Had the grace of having an illumination of conscience thru the intercession of st. Bartholomew some years ago and thats tue inspiration i got on how to do it. Plus i later discovered that St Ignatius of Loyola did tje same. Strangley, each yime i thought id finished id be reminded of some other sin and i was like, really Lord, you were friends with a person like me? I did go for confession though for tue sins i had forgotten,the ones i was too embarrassed to speak out st.Johnbosco and St Andrew(apostle) helped me. Did a novena with Andrew and Johnbosco joined in thru a abook(40 dreams) which a friend brought me in the course of the novena. The dreqm about deaths mesenger did it for me. People in heaven ate supernice and are willing to assist us anytime
Amen❤❤❤
In the 'our Father' prayer, Jesus taught us to ask the Father to 'Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil'. Therefore, I will not ask for purgatory on earth. Rather, I trust in Jesus and His saving Grace and Cross, and I offer Jesus to the eternal Father as my saviour, especially when I will apear before Him for judgment.
Today's Mass reading was on the 10 virgins waiting for the bridegroom. I choose to be like the 5 wise virgins with extra oil of prayers (frequent confessions, Masses, communions, daily Rosary, St. Bridget prayer) and good works. And though my efforts are but filty rags, I trust Jesus' grace is sufficient for me and for all. Amen.
Finally, I am satisfied with the daily trials the Lord permits to come to me. With the Lords help and grace, I pray I can bear them all with patience and without complaining... this way I carry my cross after the Lord here on earth which is purgatory on earth.
I've always wondered
Mechtild of Madgeburg said there was 2 purgatories...one on earth and one after earth.
could we possibly have experienced this without having asked God for purgatory on earth? and if so, could it coincide with falling out of faith for a few years? or would it then just be considered a normal hardship? Also what would the point of this be when we have the Divine Mercy Sunday?
Thanks!
I’ve experienced something like this. But it was more of I don’t know if it was mental or Spiritual or Combo of both. 🙏✝️
Lets pray and fast for Trump that he wins in November. We could fast on fatima's anniversaries and pray our country turns back to God. God save the USA.
All suffering is somewhat like purgatory.
For sure!
If you don't mind,I think everyone can reduce their time in purgatory right here by simply writing down all their sons(especially mortal sins already confessed) and start doing some penance to satisfy divine justice. One can choose to fast or abstain from something they like or love for periods of time. I like the Judith formula where you do Monday to Saturday then take a break on Sunday. Our Lord told st Getrude you can your purgatory here with pennies. It's that simple. Just try not to repeat the sins again.
There's also lent. Take the opportunity. Purgatory is simply satisfying divine justice
I know you don’t know where a soul of a loved one goes, so how do you know where to pray for them?
Always pray for your loved one’s soul assuming they are in Purgatory. If the person is already in Heaven, your prayers will help other souls in Purgatory. Your prayers for a soul in Purgatory are never lost. ❤
You attracted to you this comment requesting you took a heartfelt intellectually/emotionally honest journey through the "playlist" on "my page", shared, and came together with others to arrive at a widely agreed upon map of the flat earth, realize capitalism begets kids starving in the streets and war after war, and so much more... Peace and love 😘
I too have bone from a dead person. It’s so odd to think about isn’t it. It’s like the closest relationship with a stranger. I’m still not sure how to explain it.
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Understanding the concept of purgatory is critical - purging is necessary if we are the ones so full of of that which is not of God.
9:08 I think you’re describing Complex Regional Pain Syndrome, formerly known as Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy.
I can trust the Lord with all my heart, but, do I want to put my loved ones through it as well.? There, I have no right...
We have DID and our brain got torn to pieces so I hope we’re good to go like can we get a pass pls 😭
So, what is Purgatory? First of all, Purgatory is not a kind of temporary hell; it is the very threshold of Heaven. The Catholic Church is defined in three parts.
1. The pilgrim Church on earth, where we the people are on a pilgrimage towards Heaven
2. The Church suffering, or the place of purgation
3. The Church triumphant, where those in Heaven behold the beatific vision.
So why is there a place of purgation, and why is it often described as a place of suffering? Surely Jesus took away our debt on the cross. He paid the final price; so why does purgatory exist? The Father’s Justice must be satisfied, otherwise God is not Just
Let us remember that Purgatory is a dogma of faith, so if we don't believe it, that doesn't mean that purgatory wont exist anymore. What is a dogma in the Catholic Church? A dogma of the Catholic Church is defined as "a truth revealed by God, which the magisterium of the Church declared as binding."
Catechism 1030 - “All who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven”
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Let’s discuss arguments about Purgatory - The good thief argument
For anyone who is interested to know about the "good thief". As 1 Corinthians chapter 4 verse 5 says "For that reason, do not judge anything before the due time, until the Lord comes; he will bring to light everything that is hidden in darkness and reveal the designs of all hearts. Then everyone will receive from God the appropriate commendation." God is the only one capable of knowing who was saved or condemned, especially to know the intentions with which each person did or did not do each thing in their lives. Therefore, It is impossible to know whether or not the “good thief” went “straight to heaven” or had to undergo Purgatory. We cannot really judge that. It could be that he died in a state of perfect contrition for his sins and received the baptism of desire.
The Greek manuscripts that contain this passage Luke 23:43 do not contain punctuation. So did Jesus say to him: “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise” OR “Truly, I say to you today, you will be with me in paradise.” Punctuation makes a big difference!
Another point to consider is that “paradise” does not mean "heaven". The term paradise refers to the abode of the dead for the righteous, the bosom of Abraham. In which case the gates of heaven would not have been opened yet until the resurrection, so they would have been together in the abode of the righteous and the good thief still could have undergone some purification before receiving the Beatific Vision. Peter tells us that, after his death, Jesus “went and preached to the spirits in prison” (1 Peter chapter 3 verse 19). The Catechism explains: “In his human soul united to his divine person, the dead Christ went down to the realm of the dead. He opened heaven’s gates for the just who had gone before him” (Catechism 637). So, Jesus went to the abode of the blessed to share the gospel with them and to open the gates of heaven for them. It is there that Jesus said he would be with Dismas that day. Thus, purification could be done before Dismas entered into the beatific vision.
Do we find examples in the bible?
“If anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw; each man’s work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work which any man has built on the foundations survives, he will receive a reward. If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire”. 1 Corinthians 3:12-16
The foundation here is Christ, and the works being tested is our lives, both spiritual and material. We now see the concept of being tested by Fire introduced in this bible passage. The ‘Day’ being referenced here is the day of judgement when all will be subject to the Light and to Truth, which is Christ. In the presence of Truth, all will be revealed.
Romans 6:23 “For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord” (wages being the return you will get in exchange for sins committed)
Revelation 21:27 - Nothing unclean can enter the heavenly Jerusalem
Matthew 5:48: “You, therefore, must be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect.” That's because of Principle #2 - nothing unclean will get into Heaven
For anyone who is interested to know where Purgatory is mentioned in the bible. Purgatory interpret passages such as 2 Maccabees chapter 12 verses 41- 46, 2 Timothy chapter 1 verse 18, Matthew chapter 12 verse 32, Luke chapter 16 verse 19- chapter 16 verse 26, Luke chapter 23 verse 43, Hebrews chapter 12 verse 29. "Nothing unclean may come into it: no one who does what is loathsome or false, but only those who are listed in the Lamb's book of life." - Revelation chapter 21 verse 27. In Matthew chapter 5 verses 24-25, Jesus is even more explicit about Purgatory. “Make friends quickly with your accuser, while you are going with him to court, lest your accuser hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the guard, and you be put in prison; truly I say to you, you will never get out till you have paid the last penny.” 1 Corinthians chapter 3 verses 11-15 may well be the most straightforward text in all of Sacred Scripture when it comes to Purgatory: “For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any one builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble-each man’s work will become manifest; for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work which any man has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire".
So, what do the Saints have to say about Purgatory?
Saint Francis de Sales - “To assist the Souls in Purgatory is to perform the most excellent works of mercy”
Saint Padre Pio said, “We must empty Purgatory with our prayers”. In his suffering, Padre Pio had a special devotion to the souls in purgatory. Early in his priesthood, he wrote to his spiritual director, ““For some time I have felt the need to offer myself to the Lord as a victim for poor sinners and for souls in purgatory. This desire has grown continuously in my heart, until now it has become a powerful passion. I made this offering to the Lord, imploring Him to lay on me the punishments that are prepared for sinners and for souls in purgatory, even multiplying them upon me a hundredfold as long as He converts and saves sinners and quickly releases the souls in purgatory.” Padre Pio mentioned many cases of meeting deceased souls that were suffering in purgatory, including deceased Friars and Pietro Di Mauro, who came to Padre Pio looking for a Mass to be said for his soul.
Maria Simma (Mystic) said that no soul would want to come back from Purgatory to earth. They have knowledge which is infinitely beyond ours.
St. Catherine of Genoa “For the souls in purgatory there is great joy as well as pain as they know for certain they are bound for heaven”
St. John Vianney “I come to tell you that they suffer in Purgatory, that they weep, and that they demand with urgent cries the help of your prayers and your good works
St. Nicholas of Tolentino - During his life, Nicholas is said to have received visions, including images of Purgatory, which friends ascribed to his lengthy fasts. According to a story, one of his deceased friends appeared to him asking for prayers. Prayer for the souls in Purgatory was the outstanding characteristic of his spirituality. Because of this Nicholas was proclaimed patron of the souls in Purgatory, in 1884 by Leo XIII. The Catholic Church formally defined the doctrine of purgatory during Nicholas’ lifetime, at the Second Council of Lyon in 1274.
Do we find any instance of praying for the dead in the OLD Testament?
2 Maccabees 12:44-45 “For if he were not expecting that those that had fallen would rise again, it would have been superfluous and foolish to pray for the dead. But if he was looking to the splendid reward that is laid up for those who fall asleep in Godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Therefore, he made atonement for the dead that they might be delivered from their sin”
Other sources for Purgatory: Church tradition, The Elders, The council of Trent
Do the Holy Souls need our prayers? Yes, the holy souls need our prayers -and at the same time, they can be powerful intercessors for us. The Catechism (958) says that “our prayer for them is capable not only of helping them, but also of making their intercession for us effective.” When we pray for them, it makes them able to pray for us.
And finally, a commentary on purgatory by Dr Peter Kreeft (professor of philosophy at Boston College and The King's College. A convert to Roman Catholicism, he is the author of over eighty books on Christian philosophy, theology, and apologetics)
“If you really think that you can endure and enjoy the full light and fire of God a second after you die, being essentially the same kind of being you are now, without any additional divine operation on your soul, then you dangerously underestimate either your sinful nature or God’s holiness, or the gap between them”
Thank you so much for this, God bless you 🙏
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@UniquelyMary, is that like a Job test? i.e. when God withdraws his grace to test someone.
God didn’t withdraw His grace with job, His protection, yes, His grace, no
but purgatory is a process , right?..... the higher/closer to heaven the lesser the pain ..the longing is always there but the suffering varies i believe?
How about 5 years
Hi Alvaro, have you had any long term affects from the accident?
Its called jail.