I cant express the chills I get each week when it out of no where way to sudden its time to whistle along, like dueling banjos. Whereever I am it echos.
Always excellent videography. You make it look easy and seamless. The content is interesting. Your personality gives the videos flavor. You and Dan are excellent together.
I have to hand it to you. I was in the Coast Guard and we used a sand blaster. A nasty business that was done in a ship yard. Well done. You deserve a nice glass of Bourbon for all that effort.
Card scrapers are also great for removing certain paints as, especially when you want to be careful not to scratch too deep. They don't make fine dust and they are just so satisfying to use. And when they are dull, just make a new burr with a metal file. The flexibility of a card scraper is another bonus.
I once got in an disagreement with a coworker when I was using a chisel to scrape epoxy off a table. I was popping chunks of epoxy off a work table, so I could sand the table down, to clean it up a little bit. He yelled at me saying I was abusing a tool, using it for that purpose. I found it amusing that an item meant to peel away layers was somehow damaged by the process. He acted like we didn't have a complete set of hones to sharpen them afterwards.
These may not have been the most exciting/sexy projects you've tackled to date on the refit, but every bit of progress means you're one step (no pun intended) closer to being finished and back on the water! I actually found the scraping to be oddly satisfying. Out with the old to make room for the new 👍
Floor scraper! Essentially a 5 or 6 inch flat blade on the end of a broom handle. We use them for scraping up old vinyl flooring and tile adhesive, etc.
Great episode! So sharp and well put together. The production, although simple, is exquisite. I can't wait to see UMA 3000 (?) when she is done. Plus, I haven't been able to stop whistling the UMA call at the end.
are you planning a video on your truck buildout anytime soon? As always, great video. You guys are by far the best story presenters of any of the sailing channels.
The thumbnail looks like you have a Bahco 665 Tungsten Carbide Scraper, but I did not see it in the video. Like you I tried many devices over the years. I last removed the bottom paint on a C&C Landfall 38 using a Bahco scraper. I was amazed at how easy, less messy, and safer (no particulates to worry about). I bought the scraper and a second tungsten carbide blade. It's been 10 years and I have used the Bahco everywhere and have still not replaced the blade! It's a Game Changer! Too bad you missed testing it.
That's the regular one most swedes use for scraping their wood houses from old paint. Works excellent (doing a whole house can be pretty good overbody training 😅 most use of for their smaller summer cottage) and a new blade is like $15
The chisel - a sharp one - gets under what is Kiwigrip’s weakness - the interface from deck to kiwi. It’s peeling it off at set temperature. All power tools just heat the Kiwi up, melding it to the deck. They reinforce the Kiwi’ weakness.
Yup you've strong legs but Rebecca from Teulu tribe wrecked her knee not so long ago kneeling doing a job ... She had to come back to 🇬🇧 for 6 weeks to get it sorted out to the point she could stand and move again. 🧙🏼♂️ I know to my cost they are programmed to get you eventually.😖
I have a pulse laser cleaning machine. Stupidly expensive but we’re finding uses for it absolutely everywhere. Once my boat hauls, I will be removing bottom paint and VC-Tar. Your chisel has a huge advantage in no vibration and being much lighter than the power tools. A jack-plane would probably also be useful. Like a chisel, but you can set the depth and take long consistent strokes and clean up corners with the chisel. Also, the non-vibrating hand tools leave a much better, cleaner surface. The others probably also have lots of clean-up passes to make a finished, paint-ready surface.
You're better than Consumer Reports! We went through that painting cars in the 1970s. We discovered both the quickest and best way was to chemically strip it. WARNING: This may not be an option with a fiberglass boat or any plastic or composite surfaces! For fiberglass, I recommend not using a grinder because it'll dig into the fiberglass. Instead, I recommend finding a chemical strip compatible with whatever matrix (epoxy or polyester resin) from which you're removing the paint/kiwi grip. The grinder isn't useless, however... You can use it to keep your chisel sharp! That said, I'd use a file for sharpening your chisel.
Hey you two, check out the last episode of WE SAIL. Warren created a boom sailbag with embedded solar panels. At the end of this last episode, he had it built and did a basic check for fit and it looked good, but he had yet to wire it, so no verified stats re: output/efficiency. Point is, it appears to be a helluva genius way to increase solar panel area without needing to build intricate, heavy support structures or gluing them to the deck and risking impact damage from foot traffic or something else.
Okay since you both have done great work on the boat for years now. Can you make some of the processes you have to do like a game with reward that promotes your relationship? Just thinking of different fun ways to add to your adventure. Thanks for letting us share in it.
The winch on the truck being used as an offload crane is a great idea. Work smarter not harder. Too bad the mast wasn't there for the solar panel arch.
wrote a bunch about scrappers, but then you guys figured it all out... ...They make a 4 inch wide, 2-foot handle, floor scraper that would have been the best, and the blade is off angle, so it slices better....like that yellow handle job on steroids.
Kiwigrip is soft and rubbery so it gums up sand paper very quickly, I had the same stuff on my deck and ended up using 9 in angle grinders and MANY 80 grit disks to remove the stuff. Even grit blasting was ineffective. One tip was to paint a new coat of kiwigrip over the top to soften the paint then use a scraper, was told this AFTER we used the big grinders.
No one tool does everything well. I use a flap wheel on my grinder to remove hardened bottom paint. The multitool with the scrapper blade works well when the material that needs to be removed is pliable. But sometimes a chisel is still the best tool.
There are a large variety if grinding disks for your grinder, they also come in various materials. Pls look into those. Specifically the ones that look as if made out off cardboard & flaps. They are hard to desrcribe, but when you see them, my description makes more sense. They also make a variety of steel brushes for your drill. They are round& come in many (& I do mean many) diff sizes. These are specifically made to remove paint. You'd have to be a bit careful with them, as they are more made for steel boats. They work exceptionally fast& you may find yourself within a short time frame disappointd that your work is already done. Hahaha. As said, as long as you are a lil cautious while using them, you'll be done super fast with this job. Thanks for all of your great videos!
you know what to work with, but you always have to try different solutions. and yet it worked for others.... 😉 we wish you perseverance. renovation can be exhausting and discourage you from owning a yacht. stay strong.
The resurfacer is great for cleaning an polishing all sorts of things, but you definitely have to fit the right drum. The straight abrasive drums can clog pretty quick on gummy surfaces. I’ve yet to invest in a metal wire brush for it, but the fibre brush can be pretty aggressive on paint. I’ve got the same unit and a larger Vevor unit with is a little easier to get into odd spaces, like channel iron. The flapwheel/scotch-brite drums are great for irregular surfaces, but I can see how they’d be less effective on grippy layered surfaces.
The flappy-paddle sand disks on your grinder that you chose not to use if my tool of choice for this job. Also, I recommend dual sided solar panels for more power in the same space and less weight.
Kika you are supposed to sharpen that 5 n 1 first with the sander, using 60 grit. Those 5n1's are very much like the chisel, you just have to sharpen it.
If you are going to use flexible solar cells there would be the possibility to place (glue?) them on the cabin roof with something like kiwi grip but clear on top. I don't know how robust such a panel is but this is used on the Malizia (Imoca class).
ya know I have been thinking for a while now how to prevent so much rust on the inside and opening of stainless. I would suggest to spray in silicone lubricant into the holes in all directions and at the holes on the edges and just outside put the silicone lubricant used for orings in facets. If the silicone gets washed off you can put it back pretty easily. This will prevent water intrusion and save you stainless
What Kika calls a Kiwi tool I call a "7" tool since it looks like the numeral 7. It is my favorite tool as it has so many uses. Anyway, if the edge is sharpened, it will be as effective as a sharp chisel.
The owner of Sail Life channel used the grinder with a special fiber, style disc that did a great job. Worked fast, & easy. Check out his video a month ago. 😊
FYI You can sharpen the 5in1 tool and get it chisel sharp. :-) You just have to be *REALLY* careful with it after that. (I don’t think you need to ask me how I know this!…)
With regards to the solar panels, have your considered wind damage if you use flexible panels? you are going to have to fix them down so solid that they cant flex otherwise your yacht is about to get another sail. I would imagine slight flexing might not do any noticeable damage in the first couple of months, but over time some cells might simply stop working if there is constant flexing. might be an idea to fix them to a sheet of aluminium and then mount the aluminium sheet to your arch. that would stop the flexing and at the same time keep the weight down
How about weight a towel over the work area and soak it in paint remover, cover with plastic and let it marinate for awhile. Should nearly wipe right off. I don't know how deep it would go though... could be a fun experiment for the vlog.
Paint remover is just nasty and hot sunny areas a lot of the time it dries out before it works properly & to properly remove it and the bubbled paint you need a petrol power washer.
surprised you didn't try a multitool with a wide scraper blade. Would imagine that to be far more effective than a chisel, and less tiring over a larger area. EDIT: Spoke too soon, Den came to the rescue
Wear thick gloves as part of your PPE as a defense against Hand and Arm Vibration syndrome. Years of using vibrating tools will permanently damage your hands.
you can get flexible scrapers as well as the rigid one that you used on your oscillating tool - I think the flexible one would have been more effective - you can test that for Uma 3.0 or 4.0 - I've lost count. 🤔
Interesting that underneath the Kiwi grip there’s some discoloration in the gelcoat was that there before or is that some kind of leakage indication under the Kiwi grip?
I cant express the chills I get each week when it out of no where way to sudden its time to whistle along, like dueling banjos. Whereever I am it echos.
Always excellent videography. You make it look easy and seamless. The content is interesting. Your personality gives the videos flavor. You and Dan are excellent together.
Genius. These boat build videos could have been boring but you guys are hitting it out of the park. I've really enjoyed watching each episode.
They really know how to keep the audience engaged
I have to hand it to you. I was in the Coast Guard and we used a sand blaster. A nasty business that was done in a ship yard. Well done. You deserve a nice glass of Bourbon for all that effort.
Card scrapers are also great for removing certain paints as, especially when you want to be careful not to scratch too deep. They don't make fine dust and they are just so satisfying to use. And when they are dull, just make a new burr with a metal file. The flexibility of a card scraper is another bonus.
Negative Marie Kondo , the joy of discovering that thing you have been hanging on to or just turned up is the thing you needed all along.
I once got in an disagreement with a coworker when I was using a chisel to scrape epoxy off a table. I was popping chunks of epoxy off a work table, so I could sand the table down, to clean it up a little bit. He yelled at me saying I was abusing a tool, using it for that purpose. I found it amusing that an item meant to peel away layers was somehow damaged by the process. He acted like we didn't have a complete set of hones to sharpen them afterwards.
Every day a little closer to being back on the waves. And all so instructional.
These may not have been the most exciting/sexy projects you've tackled to date on the refit, but every bit of progress means you're one step (no pun intended) closer to being finished and back on the water! I actually found the scraping to be oddly satisfying. Out with the old to make room for the new 👍
Floor scraper! Essentially a 5 or 6 inch flat blade on the end of a broom handle.
We use them for scraping up old vinyl flooring and tile adhesive, etc.
Great episode! So sharp and well put together. The production, although simple, is exquisite. I can't wait to see UMA 3000 (?) when she is done. Plus, I haven't been able to stop whistling the UMA call at the end.
The grey KiwiGrip with your matching Sunbrella made Uma look very nice
That hand remote for the winch is so awesome!
are you planning a video on your truck buildout anytime soon? As always, great video. You guys are by far the best story presenters of any of the sailing channels.
Great to see you, like every week, since the beginning of this great trip from the USA some years ago!!
Love how useful something as simple as a chisel is. I used a handheld planet for a similar project recently where the chisel wasn’t wide enough
The thumbnail looks like you have a Bahco 665 Tungsten Carbide Scraper, but I did not see it in the video. Like you I tried many devices over the years. I last removed the bottom paint on a C&C Landfall 38 using a Bahco scraper. I was amazed at how easy, less messy, and safer (no particulates to worry about). I bought the scraper and a second tungsten carbide blade. It's been 10 years and I have used the Bahco everywhere and have still not replaced the blade! It's a Game Changer! Too bad you missed testing it.
That's the regular one most swedes use for scraping their wood houses from old paint. Works excellent (doing a whole house can be pretty good overbody training 😅 most use of for their smaller summer cottage) and a new blade is like $15
+1 for the Bahco.
Great for old paint and varnish
The chisel - a sharp one - gets under what is Kiwigrip’s weakness - the interface from deck to kiwi. It’s peeling it off at set temperature. All power tools just heat the Kiwi up, melding it to the deck. They reinforce the Kiwi’ weakness.
Taking the solar panels & the stainless tubing off is great it's starting to look like a sailing boat.
Kika please protect your knees, just get something soft under them!
Yup you've strong legs but Rebecca from Teulu tribe wrecked her knee not so long ago kneeling doing a job ... She had to come back to 🇬🇧 for 6 weeks to get it sorted out to the point she could stand and move again. 🧙🏼♂️ I know to my cost they are programmed to get you eventually.😖
I used my scraper/multi tool the other day to clean up some silicon along a glass window. OMG it worked fantastic. Great little simple tool.
A chisel is my favorite boat tool. Really. Namaste. 🙏
Awesome as always. Thanks :)
I have a pulse laser cleaning machine. Stupidly expensive but we’re finding uses for it absolutely everywhere. Once my boat hauls, I will be removing bottom paint and VC-Tar.
Your chisel has a huge advantage in no vibration and being much lighter than the power tools. A jack-plane would probably also be useful. Like a chisel, but you can set the depth and take long consistent strokes and clean up corners with the chisel. Also, the non-vibrating hand tools leave a much better, cleaner surface. The others probably also have lots of clean-up passes to make a finished, paint-ready surface.
I remember watching the video in which you added the kiwi grip!
You're better than Consumer Reports!
We went through that painting cars in the 1970s. We discovered both the quickest and best way was to chemically strip it. WARNING: This may not be an option with a fiberglass boat or any plastic or composite surfaces!
For fiberglass, I recommend not using a grinder because it'll dig into the fiberglass. Instead, I recommend finding a chemical strip compatible with whatever matrix (epoxy or polyester resin) from which you're removing the paint/kiwi grip.
The grinder isn't useless, however... You can use it to keep your chisel sharp! That said, I'd use a file for sharpening your chisel.
We use a long handle scraper to remove dangerous goods labels from shipping containers and it works great
I like the Makita grinder/sander.
From the guy that didn`t bring you the MEGA PINT - The all new MEGA SCRAPER!
Purdy 6 in 1 scraper with 4inch wide blade are really tough.Sharpen it up with grinder .I use it for nearly everything
Hey you two, check out the last episode of WE SAIL. Warren created a boom sailbag with embedded solar panels. At the end of this last episode, he had it built and did a basic check for fit and it looked good, but he had yet to wire it, so no verified stats re: output/efficiency. Point is, it appears to be a helluva genius way to increase solar panel area without needing to build intricate, heavy support structures or gluing them to the deck and risking impact damage from foot traffic or something else.
Stanley makes a manual paint scraper that you pull instead of push 028617 that would have been the perfect tool. Alas, too late. Great job Kika!
Work smarter not harder,, a very good rule to follow..
Great video. Very useful. Keep it up!
Okay since you both have done great work on the boat for years now. Can you make some of the processes you have to do like a game with reward that promotes your relationship? Just thinking of different fun ways to add to your adventure. Thanks for letting us share in it.
Sharpen the 5 in 1 with the grinder. Oscillating tool yes!!
The winch on the truck being used as an offload crane is a great idea. Work smarter not harder. Too bad the mast wasn't there for the solar panel arch.
wrote a bunch about scrappers, but then you guys figured it all out... ...They make a 4 inch wide, 2-foot handle, floor scraper that would have been the best, and the blade is off angle, so it slices better....like that yellow handle job on steroids.
Cheerful comment to aid with engagement and cheer you on! Woo! Go you!
Kiwigrip is soft and rubbery so it gums up sand paper very quickly, I had the same stuff on my deck and ended up using 9 in angle grinders and MANY 80 grit disks to remove the stuff. Even grit blasting was ineffective. One tip was to paint a new coat of kiwigrip over the top to soften the paint then use a scraper, was told this AFTER we used the big grinders.
No one tool does everything well.
I use a flap wheel on my grinder to remove hardened bottom paint.
The multitool with the scrapper blade works well when the material that needs to be removed is pliable.
But sometimes a chisel is still the best tool.
I have a induction cooker that last one is what I use to clean it. Saves a lot of scrubbing.
There are a large variety if grinding disks for your grinder, they also come in various materials. Pls look into those. Specifically the ones that look as if made out off cardboard & flaps. They are hard to desrcribe, but when you see them, my description makes more sense.
They also make a variety of steel brushes for your drill. They are round& come in many (& I do mean many) diff sizes. These are specifically made to remove paint. You'd have to be a bit careful with them, as they are more made for steel boats. They work exceptionally fast& you may find yourself within a short time frame disappointd that your work is already done. Hahaha. As said, as long as you are a lil cautious while using them, you'll be done super fast with this job.
Thanks for all of your great videos!
Flap disc?
I wish there were more Kikas. She is clearly amazing.
I kept waiting for you to get a larger chisel.
ok. those vaccuum eyes!!🤣🤣🤣
you know what to work with, but you always have to try different solutions. and yet it worked for others.... 😉 we wish you perseverance. renovation can be exhausting and discourage you from owning a yacht. stay strong.
The resurfacer is great for cleaning an polishing all sorts of things, but you definitely have to fit the right drum. The straight abrasive drums can clog pretty quick on gummy surfaces. I’ve yet to invest in a metal wire brush for it, but the fibre brush can be pretty aggressive on paint. I’ve got the same unit and a larger Vevor unit with is a little easier to get into odd spaces, like channel iron. The flapwheel/scotch-brite drums are great for irregular surfaces, but I can see how they’d be less effective on grippy layered surfaces.
just in time.
I was go to start my paint removal task tomorrow
Anvil scraper might work, wider than the chisel.
lovely just lovely
So good. Thanks!
Decked, best way to scrape.
Here's a title for you - "Just Scraping By" . : - D
I also vote for this title.
😅
Well...watching paint being scraped is slightly more interesting than watching paint dry. Thank God for Kika rizz, amiright.
reminds me of one of the old clamation stop action cartoons!
When in doubt hold on to the kiss principle. 😅
You mean the "Kika Is Seriously Sweet" Principle? : - )
@@scyz2807
keep it simple stupid
(from The Neverending Story) "To the winch, wench!"
I removed the Interdeck from my Deck with a Belt sander. It worked very well.
Thanks!
Love you kids! It's a process, isn't it? Be well. ❤
Did you think about leaving mouse lines through the arch tubes when you pulled all the old cables out... ?😂 Thats going to be a fun job.
Might try method that is known by some as best. Heat gun and scraper (or chisel).
yep. ended up doing exactly that in the end. the combo heat gun and that cheap little scraper worked wonders.
The flappy-paddle sand disks on your grinder that you chose not to use if my tool of choice for this job.
Also, I recommend dual sided solar panels for more power in the same space and less weight.
Chisel is the winner. It has to be sharp and you need to experiment as to which width works best. 3/4 - 1" usually is best for me.
Oh how much easier things come apart than they go back together.
Kika you are supposed to sharpen that 5 n 1 first with the sander, using 60 grit. Those 5n1's are very much like the chisel, you just have to sharpen it.
If you are going to use flexible solar cells there would be the possibility to place (glue?) them on the cabin roof with something like kiwi grip but clear on top. I don't know how robust such a panel is but this is used on the Malizia (Imoca class).
Sharpen your 5-in-one. You don't want too much wider because the deck is not flat. "Just use a chisel" Why not, and no mask or ear protection.
ya know I have been thinking for a while now how to prevent so much rust on the inside and opening of stainless. I would suggest to spray in silicone lubricant into the holes in all directions and at the holes on the edges and just outside put the silicone lubricant used for orings in facets. If the silicone gets washed off you can put it back pretty easily. This will prevent water intrusion and save you stainless
you guys rock
What Kika calls a Kiwi tool I call a "7" tool since it looks like the numeral 7. It is my favorite tool as it has so many uses. Anyway, if the edge is sharpened, it will be as effective as a sharp chisel.
5in1 will work just need to sharpen the edge more. Yes they make wider chisels.
use of a heat gun prior to scraping. It will scrape off much easier. like removing varnish.
It would be good to keep a file handy and sharpen the 5 in 1 or a wider chisel often.
But on the ground, not on the boat deck so you don't get rust dots.
Use a wider chisel ie. 1 1/4. Or 1 1/2 just keep them sharp!
The owner of Sail Life channel used the grinder with a special fiber, style disc that did a great job. Worked fast, & easy. Check out his video a month ago. 😊
Kika, Ya need a log peeler.
I think the surrounding yachts may appreciate the chisel. Not the noise the dust in the air
FYI You can sharpen the 5in1 tool and get it chisel sharp. :-)
You just have to be *REALLY* careful with it after that. (I don’t think you need to ask me how I know this!…)
Am I the only one to have kittens about either one of you falling off the edge of uma, particularly now there’s no grip surface.
Don't go flexible panels unless you have great info on quality ones. My friend used some and they were a constant headache along with half-ass power.
With regards to the solar panels, have your considered wind damage if you use flexible panels? you are going to have to fix them down so solid that they cant flex otherwise your yacht is about to get another sail. I would imagine slight flexing might not do any noticeable damage in the first couple of months, but over time some cells might simply stop working if there is constant flexing.
might be an idea to fix them to a sheet of aluminium and then mount the aluminium sheet to your arch. that would stop the flexing and at the same time keep the weight down
I had better results using a chisel on a short wooden broom handle . the fine control and physical power control was the best for me so far .
How about weight a towel over the work area and soak it in paint remover, cover with plastic and let it marinate for awhile. Should nearly wipe right off. I don't know how deep it would go though... could be a fun experiment for the vlog.
Paint remover is just nasty and hot sunny areas a lot of the time it dries out before it works properly & to properly remove it and the bubbled paint you need a petrol power washer.
I vibrating tool always gets the job done 🤪
good lord lol
Multi tool with scraper blade
surprised you didn't try a multitool with a wide scraper blade. Would imagine that to be far more effective than a chisel, and less tiring over a larger area.
EDIT: Spoke too soon, Den came to the rescue
Wear thick gloves as part of your PPE as a defense against Hand and Arm Vibration syndrome. Years of using vibrating tools will permanently damage your hands.
Ever tried the abranet of autonet from Mirka with their orbital sander? This sander has multiple holes zo cleaning up is a pleasure.
just sharpen the 5 in 1? Or, we're going to need a bigger chisel
Kika, my favorite sailor girl... well, maybe next to Sascha...
Are you gonna use solarpanels that is flexible panels and you can walk on
you can get flexible scrapers as well as the rigid one that you used on your oscillating tool - I think the flexible one would have been more effective - you can test that for Uma 3.0 or 4.0 - I've lost count. 🤔
Interesting that underneath the Kiwi grip there’s some discoloration in the gelcoat was that there before or is that some kind of leakage indication under the Kiwi grip?
That looks like a BAHCO brand chisel. Is that kiwi grip or kwik grip?
What comments are you getting from the dock yard staff
A heat gun and a wider assortment of chisels
With everything that is going on today, do you think it is still safe to sail? Just asking
LOL! MEGA SCRAPER!!!!