I thought it was a Lexicon audio system, I loved my 2018 so much I just bought a 2023 and honestly, I like them both for different reasons. Best vehicle I’ve ever owned, sold not one but two S-Class Merceds-Benz for Genesis Vehicles and I’d do it again in a heartbeat!!
Harman owns numerous brands - including JBL, Infinity, Mark Levinson and Lexicon - among others - and all those brands are incorporated in the the Genesis systems. The system is marked as "Lexicon" but that's a bit misleading - as Lexicon only made equipment for signal processing.
Ok so I’m seeing these go for 90-100k or more. I just a 2019 exactly like the one in the video with 32k miles for 34k . Seriously considering it, but why hasn’t it held its value? Are there issues with it?
One point that frequently goes unmentioned is that large luxury sedans in Europe and increasingly in Asia are often purchased or leased by companies for or by their executives and driven by chauffeurs, a practice that has never been common in the US. That means that back seat accommodations and features are especially important in this class. Until recently, that has meant Audi's, BMW's, and Mercedes. But in the first five months after the introduction of the G90 in Korea, the sale of German luxury sedans dropped by more than a third.
Really solid. It almost is like the old Lexus LS. Honestly the pricing beats Germans and Lexus. Their weakness is dealer network which is non-existent. Lexus dealers are the bomb and treat you like a king or queen, with superb loaner cars, magnificent donuts and danish and coffee, and treating you like their own children. Until then when they do something about their dealer network, Genesis is a brand you are just taking some chance on with no resale value to speak.
It was the same car with a different grille and headlights, and different taillights. Otherwise - bolt for bolt the same car. Sadly it has gone downhill from there. @@CarCoachReports
how would awd vs rwd impact in real world normal slow driving non snow areas ? does awd really matter if youre driving around speed limit and no snow ?
The "German" cars, especially BMW and MERCEDES are developing a reputation for being unreliable! Many people lease them or if they do buy one, they get rid of it as soon as the warranty expires. BMW has gotten a LITTLE better with their warranty thus making worth holding on to a little longer. I would take the G90 over a few of the German cars simply because the cost of ownership is much lower and I love the Valet service. I've driven the G90 and trust me, it can hold it's own against the so called "Staples" of the luxury automotive industry! Massaging seats would not be a deal breaker for me. Yes, it should at least have that option available however, I'll be just fine without them. A pano roof? YES! it definitely should have that. The G90 is an excellent luxury car that will be a force to be reckoned with for sure!
I agree, Genesis has really stepped up it game. You have to bring game if you want to play with the Germans. They bring everything you want and things you didn't even know you wanted!
@@CarCoachReports True, however, to me reliability is key! Especially at THAT price point. And things that are standard on a freaking Hyundai Elantra, should not be an option on a 5 series! Know what I mean?
The Germans were not developing that reputation - they already had it, and did so for quite some time. Owning any of the German luxobarges after 4 or 5 years made it a real crap shoot. During this generation of Genesis, Hyundai had really stepped up their game. Unfortunately - now Genesis is slipping significantly, across the board. The best cars to get from them were the 2015-2020 G80 and 2017-2020 G90.
I'm willing to bet that they disassembled an Audi s8 to come up with half of those features. Even with an extra liter, it's can't keep up and It really is too bad those burger king engineers couldn't get the massage seats. Maybe as Lauren said dollars and sense. Possible it may exceed prospective buyer's price points? These massage seats are so COMFORTABLE. It's just too weird that they backed themselves into a corner by calling it "ultimate" to the point of making no options available and then turn around and market to someone that is interested in a big fast German car but can't afford it. It's missing plenty of other options. Night vision, adaptive cruise, and air suspension to name just a few. It's missing those because the CEO says those systems are "Needlessly Complicated". An actual German car would really wow you. I think they're all great. BMW and Merc included. They're all great in they're own way.
The G90 does have adaptive cruise (one of the best functioning in the business) and you can keep your air suspension. They're Teutonic technological terrors for anyone who keeps a German car after the warranty expires. If you have the means to replace your Prussian hooptie when the lease expires or the ashtrays get full, air suspension is fantastic. But driving any Deutchmobile past 100k miles is a crap shoot. Consider air suspension to be a wear item like spark plugs or brake pads, because they will need replacing sooner or later - to the tune of $1500 for each corner plus another $1200 for the compressor. I think the first generation Audi A7 is one of the most attractive cars made in the last 50 years, but then I went to the Audi website to price one with the options I wanted. Audi nickles and dimes you for every feature until you're looking well past $100k. They even have the temerity to charge something like $800 for a driver's knee airbag! So I just bought a used CPO '18 G90 3.3T AWD with a 6 year 75000 mile b2b warranty, and a 100k mile powertrain warranty for about half of the sticker price and I couldn't be happier.
ralphinga1 ...I've been driving since, well a long time. I'm currently driving an Accord. It's the first car I've owned with electric windows. I'm not ready for massaging seats. Wait a minute, I had a Buick Wildcat, I can't remember if it had electric windows. Probably not but it had a 430.
Nice ... but only if it has a good leasing offer - new. If I would try to find a used car ... definitely I would buy a german. Probably a BMW. As an exception ... a Toyota might be an option for me. ;)
why? A used German luxobarge only guarantees high maintenance and repair bills. Merc, Bimmer and Audi from the mid 2010's were all notorious for it. Genesis G80 from 2015-2020 and the G90 from 2017-2020 on the otherhand - still do not have this problem.
It is funny though... Everytime I'm driving and see one of these from the side, I'm like, "Nice Audi." Then it makes a turn and I see the grill, and I'm like, "Wow... That's a Genesis!?!" Literally EVERYTIME. You think I'd learn by now. 🤦
You in that back seat is trouble! I can see you and your husband driving to a romantic place with lovely views, getting in the back seat and .......well, let's just say you may need bail money that night sis!😜
I thought it was a Lexicon audio system, I loved my 2018 so much I just bought a 2023 and honestly, I like them both for different reasons. Best vehicle I’ve ever owned, sold not one but two S-Class Merceds-Benz for Genesis Vehicles and I’d do it again in a heartbeat!!
Harman owns numerous brands - including JBL, Infinity, Mark Levinson and Lexicon - among others - and all those brands are incorporated in the the Genesis systems. The system is marked as "Lexicon" but that's a bit misleading - as Lexicon only made equipment for signal processing.
Ok so I’m seeing these go for 90-100k or more. I just a 2019 exactly like the one in the video with 32k miles for 34k . Seriously considering it, but why hasn’t it held its value? Are there issues with it?
Lauren manages to review and not put us to sleep with techno babble. I want one.
Thank you!
One point that frequently goes unmentioned is that large luxury sedans in Europe and increasingly in Asia are often purchased or leased by companies for or by their executives and driven by chauffeurs, a practice that has never been common in the US. That means that back seat accommodations and features are especially important in this class. Until recently, that has meant Audi's, BMW's, and Mercedes. But in the first five months after the introduction of the G90 in Korea, the sale of German luxury sedans dropped by more than a third.
Good insight and I agree.
Great Review I'm interested in a Genesis g90 now , Thnxxx
A winner by anyones standards. Lovely car.
Agreed
Best review on any Genisis cars I've seen. Great job
Thank you so much. 😊❤️
Great review... I have the G80 Ultimate and I love it. I'm about to trade for a G90. Thank you for your review
I went to Genesis dealer and they said you can use regular gas. I am happy to hear that but a bit surprised.
Really solid. It almost is like the old Lexus LS. Honestly the pricing beats Germans and Lexus. Their weakness is dealer network which is non-existent. Lexus dealers are the bomb and treat you like a king or queen, with superb loaner cars, magnificent donuts and danish and coffee, and treating you like their own children. Until then when they do something about their dealer network, Genesis is a brand you are just taking some chance on with no resale value to speak.
at 2:39 … 8 speed manual or 8 speed auto ? is this correct ?
Automatic only
Very nice! The backseat looks like the Audi A8.
They stole the exterior designer from Audi and the interior designer from BMW - but most certainly stole design cues from both - inside and out. :)
Like the new “Car Coach Reports” logo.
Thank you
Lauren! 😍
I am 5ft 11in and when I sat in the back my head almost touched the ceiling. I wish it had more head room.
Stay in the front...🤷🏼
Get the 5.0 Ultimate - the rear seats adjust.
Stunning, but no mention of 2020’s coming out in the next couple months? New facelift
Looking forward to reviewing the 2020 model
Car Coach Reports yes but do you know the date of the release? My understanding was Nov but wanted confirmation
It was the same car with a different grille and headlights, and different taillights. Otherwise - bolt for bolt the same car. Sadly it has gone downhill from there. @@CarCoachReports
S class at half the price. Best back seat EVER in any car
how would awd vs rwd impact in real world normal slow driving non snow areas ? does awd really matter if youre driving around speed limit and no snow ?
It helps with rain and any time you get into spirited driving for sure. My G80 was AWD and I loved it.
The "German" cars, especially BMW and MERCEDES are developing a reputation for being unreliable! Many people lease them or if they do buy one, they get rid of it as soon as the warranty expires. BMW has gotten a LITTLE better with their warranty thus making worth holding on to a little longer.
I would take the G90 over a few of the German cars simply because the cost of ownership is much lower and I love the Valet service. I've driven the G90 and trust me, it can hold it's own against the so called "Staples" of the luxury automotive industry!
Massaging seats would not be a deal breaker for me. Yes, it should at least have that option available however, I'll be just fine without them. A pano roof? YES! it definitely should have that.
The G90 is an excellent luxury car that will be a force to be reckoned with for sure!
I agree, Genesis has really stepped up it game. You have to bring game if you want to play with the Germans. They bring everything you want and things you didn't even know you wanted!
@@CarCoachReports
True, however, to me reliability is key! Especially at THAT price point. And things that are standard on a freaking Hyundai Elantra, should not be an option on a 5 series! Know what I mean?
Hyundai has made a very reliable vehicles with the top ratings across the board. So I would not be worried about owning this vehicle
The Germans were not developing that reputation - they already had it, and did so for quite some time. Owning any of the German luxobarges after 4 or 5 years made it a real crap shoot. During this generation of Genesis, Hyundai had really stepped up their game. Unfortunately - now Genesis is slipping significantly, across the board. The best cars to get from them were the 2015-2020 G80 and 2017-2020 G90.
You cannot adjust the outside temperatures. LOL. You also forgot to mention the vented rear seats.
U are right need a message seats!
All the competitors offer it and some people will use that as a buying tool
awd nice feature. nice car.
Lauren, if it was your money, would you buy it?
I’m not a luxury car person personally, I am more of an RS, AMG or M powered person. I do love the G80 sport
Car Coach Reports G80 sport over the G70 sport?
G80 is more luxury. G70 is more my size personally.
I will give this review 9/10
Lol thanks
I'm willing to bet that they disassembled an Audi s8 to come up with half of those features. Even with an extra liter, it's can't keep up and It really is too bad those burger king engineers couldn't get the massage seats. Maybe as Lauren said dollars and sense. Possible it may exceed prospective buyer's price points? These massage seats are so COMFORTABLE. It's just too weird that they backed themselves into a corner by calling it "ultimate" to the point of making no options available and then turn around and market to someone that is interested in a big fast German car but can't afford it. It's missing plenty of other options. Night vision, adaptive cruise, and air suspension to name just a few. It's missing those because the CEO says those systems are "Needlessly Complicated". An actual German car would really wow you. I think they're all great. BMW and Merc included. They're all great in they're own way.
The G90 does have adaptive cruise (one of the best functioning in the business) and you can keep your air suspension. They're Teutonic technological terrors for anyone who keeps a German car after the warranty expires. If you have the means to replace your Prussian hooptie when the lease expires or the ashtrays get full, air suspension is fantastic. But driving any Deutchmobile past 100k miles is a crap shoot. Consider air suspension to be a wear item like spark plugs or brake pads, because they will need replacing sooner or later - to the tune of $1500 for each corner plus another $1200 for the compressor.
I think the first generation Audi A7 is one of the most attractive cars made in the last 50 years, but then I went to the Audi website to price one with the options I wanted. Audi nickles and dimes you for every feature until you're looking well past $100k. They even have the temerity to charge something like $800 for a driver's knee airbag!
So I just bought a used CPO '18 G90 3.3T AWD with a 6 year 75000 mile b2b warranty, and a 100k mile powertrain warranty for about half of the sticker price and I couldn't be happier.
Wow great choice. The G90 is impressive and the warranty makes the Genesis a smart choice. Good deal! 👍
@@androidwazko9795 greatest rebuttal in YT history.
Tri zone climate control, and that’s real wood.😎👍
Too much you facetime. I didn't see any of the vehicle like other reviewers.
Massage seats suck in any car
Messaging seats, no way I would want them. I'd drool, (something else would happen I won't mention), fall asleep then fly off the road.
Bad idea.
It’s great for long rides. It keeps you from stopping and stretching. Some people need it. I think it’s a nice thing to have.
I first got massaging seats in my 2010 Ford Taurus SHO. Wonderful on long trips. Would never buy another car without them.
ralphinga1 ...I've been driving since, well a long time. I'm currently driving an Accord. It's the first car I've owned with electric windows. I'm not ready for massaging seats. Wait a minute, I had a Buick Wildcat, I can't remember if it had electric windows. Probably not but it had a 430.
I feel like this car is just a copy paste of other manufactures bit’s. Dash, controls, gauges, interior always make me think its other brands stuff.
Maybe so, but there is great value in this vehicle compared to its competition
5.0 L with AWD. Nice
Nice ... but only if it has a good leasing offer - new. If I would try to find a used car ... definitely I would buy a german. Probably a BMW. As an exception ... a Toyota might be an option for me. ;)
why? A used German luxobarge only guarantees high maintenance and repair bills. Merc, Bimmer and Audi from the mid 2010's were all notorious for it. Genesis G80 from 2015-2020 and the G90 from 2017-2020 on the otherhand - still do not have this problem.
This is the fastest sedan ever made
I don’t think so, some of the German certainly kick its butt
Surprised a technology 10 rating. The infotainment system is meh
Look.... a redesigned Audi A8.....
For a fraction of the price... 👌🏽
It is funny though... Everytime I'm driving and see one of these from the side, I'm like, "Nice Audi." Then it makes a turn and I see the grill, and I'm like, "Wow... That's a Genesis!?!" Literally EVERYTIME. You think I'd learn by now. 🤦
Agreed
You in that back seat is trouble! I can see you and your husband driving to a romantic place with lovely views, getting in the back seat and
.......well, let's just say you may need bail money that night sis!😜
🤪
put a camera on the car not the your face....
No, it doesn't have the marque. You won't see a physician or attorney own one.
That’s untrue based on real sales of vehicles, people of all walks of life are buying the Genesis brand.
@@CarCoachReports It's a Hyundai Excel from the 1980s.
not even close@@mrpmj00