Love hearing about LEAP stories! I always knew about the program while I worked at Microsoft, but it's really awesome meeting someone who went through it. YOU ARE SO COOL, JHILENE. So happy for you.
I loved this so much! I'm working towards my MS in Software Design and Development. Just earlier today I was feeling doubtful and frustrated about changing careers, but this video was right on time. I feel re-energized and excited! Thank you for the great videos! :)
This is awesome! i love this content! any chance you could interview a recruiter? or an HR person? id love to see what they have to say on the other side you know?
Maybe a team leader or someone who makes the decision on who to interview. HR just passes on the resume to who needs to make the decisions based on what the team needs. Recruiter would be great since they wouldn't know which companies are looking what they need in the market place.
Great job Jhilene!!!! 👏🏼👏🏼 You really pulled out ALL the stops to get to where you wanted to be. So cool that hacking and security was what got you into tech!!!
I loved this interview! Fantastic persistence and it shows that it really does pay off in the end! Congratulations on making it into Microsoft. It also sounds like your first role was amazing for getting you into the industry and that’s fantastic to hear - I wish more businesses were as good as getting people into the industry who are self taught! Good luck in the future if you do decide to go down the cyber security route in the end...
Thank you! I actually plan to start studying Cyber Security again after my first year as a developer. It's a little too overwhelming at the moment but it's one of my main goals.
@@colorfulcodes it does sound like you have an awful lot on at the moment - but the best of luck with it when you do make the transition - you’ll boss it - I’m sure 💪🏻
Love to see more ladies and bw getting in development. We are needed lol. I'm a Cybersecurity Analyst and like your interviewee, I have the same passion, and learning on the job using automation and threat hunting. But I'm also going to pickup AI and deep learning too starting courses in Jan. 2021. I know some blockchain as well as I think these specific learning fields will be at the top in the coming years.
I absolutely LOVED this video and hope that you do more like it! She's a genuine inspiration. I'm also breaking into tech (although I went into cloud engineering haha) after recently graduating. She's right. Persistence is key and I just genuinely could not see myself in any other career. I'm now doing a cloud engineering internship and I'm so excited about it 😁
@@lilethm.alvarez7330 I just graduated from app Academy, and I would give it my full recommendation. It's a 6-to-9-month fulltime commitment for their online course, so it's a big decision to make, but I will say they've always displayed great respect and care for the students in my experience. Also to consider, the job search after could take months as well, and part-time jobs aren't allowed until you land a proper software engineering job (they treat the job search as a full-time commitment). Just be sure to actually put in the work. While the weekly tests aren't exactly easy for someone totally new to coding to pass, there were still a small handful of graduates from my class whose final work was clearly lacking in effort or skill, and they reflected their contributions/reputation from when they worked in group projects as well. Don't just optimize studying for passing the tests, and if you feel overwhelmed, being 'deferred' (failing a test or requesting explicitly to be push back to the next cohort to redo the previous month's lessons) is NOT a bad thing. It's most important to learn the material well so you feel ready by graduation. They provide a lot of job-search support (and pressure) as well after graduation (and in the last month of class with lectures and interview practice etc.), which has been a huge relief for me. Hack Reactor would be the other standout option I've heard of when I was researching bootcamps. Aside from that, I'd be a bit wary since those are the two main camps I've heard come up repeatedly in my research.
Wow, Jhilene’s story is so inspiring! I’m going to continue my learning code routine right after the video. Thanks a lot for the interview, insightful and encouraging:)
I cant wait to watch this video-- but first i gotta study. You inspired me to start this journey a month ago and I've been rocking and rolling (and crying)my way through since XD
Wowww this is so cool and inspiring. Her Determination and persistence is one to emulate. Unfortunately such opportunities are possible in the US only. Over here in Germany where I live if you don’t have a CS degree don’t even bother applying . smh. Hopefully I relocate soon to the US where one can explore their full potential. Here is just 🙄🙄🙄talkless of the salaries. Thanks for the great video 👍🏾👍🏾
wie hast du im ende einen job gefunden, und als was genau? wie sieht dein Gehalt aus(auch im Vergleich). mir geht es genauso, nur selbstlerner, und ich fürchte, falls man was findet wird man komplett unterbezahlt, über leiharbeit, oder unbezahlte praktika :-( . wäre schön wenn du mehr berichtest
You guys are very talented and lovely. I like that you both of you are natural and don't wear a lot of makeup and are all about getting your grind in. Keep up the good work and enjoy life to!! I watch the TechLead and find you IT people very interesting but don't like that you can get depressed doing your projects from time to time. I just enjoy watching your shows I'm older and find your field a blessing to my life. Thank you guys and wishing you nothing but the world of success and happiness. KNOW you guys play a role in my life in some form!!!!
Woke up this morning and watched this entire video from start to finish! Amazing to hear about how persistent she was throughout her journey. Keep up the great content 🙌🏿💯
I was inspired to code from 3 amazing black women. Maya, Bukola and Jhilene. Thank you all. I’m one month in and would love to share my projects with you all.
Hi bukola, I began my journey into the tech aspect few months ago, but I'm starting with frontend and I've been motivated by ur videos..but if this is too much to ask, I'll need a mentorship from u because I'm highly motivated by what you've been doing in ur channel... I know this is too much to ask but will be a great boost for me in my journey..love from 🇳🇬
37:39 I can relate to that. Not sure if it is still going on (given Covid and forced vaccination of healthcare workers) but, during my childhood, black families were hell-bent on their children going to medical school. I wished I had the courage to say "no" sooner than I did - would have saved a lot of money, too 🤦🏾.
This is so incredibly helpful and valuable to not only inspire but provide real useful advice for anyone trying to find how to transition to a career in programming, without having a CS background. Thank you so much for creating this video, and to both Bukola and Jhilene for sharing their own learning experiences and amazingly helpful roadmaps for others! I am giving Revature a serious consideration, and I wondered if there is a similar company offering "bootcamps" for coding in the GIS field.
@@innocentmadanhire2391 I think the biggest thing is learning the fundamentals and start building from there. OOP concepts, databases (relational and non- relational), frontend technologies (web, desktop and phone), APIs (REST and SOAP). The most important part is actually building using these technologies. Mastery comes with competence with implementing, time is relative.
I’m in Revature lol it’s looking pretty tough but it’s worth it given how easy it is to get in. I kind of regret not getting into CS any sooner because most thing I’m learning is based on computer science.
I really appreciate your videos it has been very informative. I live in New York and currently majoring in finance. However this is something I have no Interest in. I don’ want to waste time and energy into something I don’t like. The thoughts about IT just happens to randomly came to my mind and I started watching different videos, I came across yours and I was hooked. But I have no experience in technology nor do I have any idea about coding. In addition I don’t even know how to stay and where to start in this journey. So being that you took the self taught route, it will a great idea to share with me all the steps you took.
Look into Per Scholas. It's in the Bronx and Brooklyn and it's free. You just have to get accepted. My cousin did it and he got a job after. It's a great opportunity. Best of luck!
Pretty cool! I started the free Harvard CS, but what is the amount of space is needed to be able to work on projects? Like the best type in lab top or desk computer?
Minimum is 8 gb ram and atleast 250 -500 gb hard drive. Ideally you want as much hard drive space as possible to store projects although there are now cloud options available. So about 8-16gb ram and your hard drive should be 500gb or 1TB for more space. You can always buy external hard drives when you run out of space or store your files in the cloud so make sure your ram is 8-16gb at least
Hey you may wanna check out this guy roughneck actual. He was ex-military turned software engineer turned ecommerce expert. I heard his story and it may be good to hear for your audience.
Homegirl said “$40/hr!!!? I’m fully packed and ready to go!” 😂😂 Love the story! MSFT is my focus company too. Switching from Aerospace engineer to software engineer/technical program manager.
This is what Martin Luther fought for, to see black women and men hunting for opportunities fairly and changing their circumstances without any barriers. No one will bring those opportunities to your door step. You hv to make it happen. This is very inspiring.
No I'll transfer to another team at some point. Lots of cyber security teams at Microsoft and internal transfers are common. If my team opens up a position I'll apply even then but I want to build a strong foundation in software development before making a transition. Maybe in 2 years or so.
Hi Bukola. I know this is weird but I read a new article about you and how you want to inspire more black women to do join you and the article moved me to look you up on Instagram lol! You inspired me and I want to connect with you!
Hey! I don't think automation has affected programming jobs! I think the tech workers that have been hit hard are those working at companies that were affected directly by the pandemic (travel, transportation, food, etc.). That's were a lot of the layoffs were this year In April/May, a couple big tech (Google/Facebook) companies froze hiring, but not sure if hiring is still frozen 🤷🏿♀️
@@Bukola1 Thanks for replying (love the channel!) - I ask b/c I am focusing a lot on HTML/CSS/JS. Even full-stack can be done with vanilla JS and some express/node.Just dont want to be wasting my time... :P
I wonder if race played a role in why it maybe took so long...I’d like to think the world is different...but who knows. Any non black people have a shorter experience?
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Thank you so much for interviewing me Bukola! I had a good time.
I really admire you. You and your friend are so smart and beautiful. How I wish I could have the coding capacity you have.
such a boss ❤️
Thanks for coming on!! I had a good time too!
Love this interview and I just subscribe to your channel. I love seeing women win.
Epic
I’m OBSESSED with the fact that she handed out her resume in grand central
The Hustle! She really fought for it!
Awesome! Would you mind in your future videos talk about how to build strong projects for those who have no CS degree/noBootcamp !
She put in a lot of work. This is a no joke career jump.
Love hearing about LEAP stories! I always knew about the program while I worked at Microsoft, but it's really awesome meeting someone who went through it. YOU ARE SO COOL, JHILENE. So happy for you.
Thank you so much! Leap is amazing!
Yaaas black women in tech! Y'all are what I aspire to be by the end of this year!
Same!!
Me as well!
Same!!
Same. I would like an update. It’s been a year since your comments, have any of you begun your software engineering story.
Same! How is your journey so far?
Does anyone else think this would make an awesome movie
lol I would watch it!
I loved this so much! I'm working towards my MS in Software Design and Development. Just earlier today I was feeling doubtful and frustrated about changing careers, but this video was right on time. I feel re-energized and excited! Thank you for the great videos! :)
This is awesome! i love this content! any chance you could interview a recruiter? or an HR person? id love to see what they have to say on the other side you know?
This would be good!
Maybe a team leader or someone who makes the decision on who to interview. HR just passes on the resume to who needs to make the decisions based on what the team needs. Recruiter would be great since they wouldn't know which companies are looking what they need in the market place.
good one!
Yessss
Her story is so dope and her path to learning is so awesome.
Great job Jhilene!!!! 👏🏼👏🏼 You really pulled out ALL the stops to get to where you wanted to be. So cool that hacking and security was what got you into tech!!!
Hard work and persistence really does bring opportunities. Really gives me the pursuit of happiness vibes man.
This is an Avengers Level collab.
I loved this interview! Fantastic persistence and it shows that it really does pay off in the end! Congratulations on making it into Microsoft. It also sounds like your first role was amazing for getting you into the industry and that’s fantastic to hear - I wish more businesses were as good as getting people into the industry who are self taught! Good luck in the future if you do decide to go down the cyber security route in the end...
Thank you! I actually plan to start studying Cyber Security again after my first year as a developer. It's a little too overwhelming at the moment but it's one of my main goals.
@@colorfulcodes it does sound like you have an awful lot on at the moment - but the best of luck with it when you do make the transition - you’ll boss it - I’m sure 💪🏻
I love this! My cousin also was self taught and now works at Microsoft.
Love to see more ladies and bw getting in development. We are needed lol. I'm a Cybersecurity Analyst and like your interviewee, I have the same passion, and learning on the job using automation and threat hunting. But I'm also going to pickup AI and deep learning too starting courses in Jan. 2021. I know some blockchain as well as I think these specific learning fields will be at the top in the coming years.
Thanks for interviewing her. Jhilene shared her experiences in an open and a wholesome way.
No problem! It was really fun chatting with her!
I absolutely LOVED this video and hope that you do more like it! She's a genuine inspiration. I'm also breaking into tech (although I went into cloud engineering haha) after recently graduating. She's right. Persistence is key and I just genuinely could not see myself in any other career. I'm now doing a cloud engineering internship and I'm so excited about it 😁
So happy things turned out well for you. I remember watching your videos 2 years ago. Your perseverance paid off!! Wish you an exciting journey.
Thank you ❤
I’m doing a boot camp right now ....I may have to stand out and hand those resumes out girl #protip
So am I Keva! If you have a linkedIn I would love to send you an invite!
Hi, which boot camp? Do you have any recommendations? I’m looking into this.
@@lilethm.alvarez7330 I just graduated from app Academy, and I would give it my full recommendation. It's a 6-to-9-month fulltime commitment for their online course, so it's a big decision to make, but I will say they've always displayed great respect and care for the students in my experience. Also to consider, the job search after could take months as well, and part-time jobs aren't allowed until you land a proper software engineering job (they treat the job search as a full-time commitment).
Just be sure to actually put in the work. While the weekly tests aren't exactly easy for someone totally new to coding to pass, there were still a small handful of graduates from my class whose final work was clearly lacking in effort or skill, and they reflected their contributions/reputation from when they worked in group projects as well. Don't just optimize studying for passing the tests, and if you feel overwhelmed, being 'deferred' (failing a test or requesting explicitly to be push back to the next cohort to redo the previous month's lessons) is NOT a bad thing. It's most important to learn the material well so you feel ready by graduation. They provide a lot of job-search support (and pressure) as well after graduation (and in the last month of class with lectures and interview practice etc.), which has been a huge relief for me. Hack Reactor would be the other standout option I've heard of when I was researching bootcamps. Aside from that, I'd be a bit wary since those are the two main camps I've heard come up repeatedly in my research.
@@diadsalies Thank you for taking the time to answer my question! I appreciate it.
Good luck love!
Wow, Jhilene’s story is so inspiring! I’m going to continue my learning code routine right after the video. Thanks a lot for the interview, insightful and encouraging:)
The brains on these women is phenomenal...
I cant wait to watch this video-- but first i gotta study. You inspired me to start this journey a month ago and I've been rocking and rolling (and crying)my way through since XD
Still interviewing and working full time. Hearing your story was so helpful! It is a struggle getting your first dev job...
Your story is so powerful and makes me realize that if you set a goal, it can be hard but don't give up easily!!!
So cool that you guys know each other in real life! Favorite UA-camrs ❤️
Wowww this is so cool and inspiring. Her Determination and persistence is one to emulate. Unfortunately such opportunities are possible in the US only. Over here in Germany where I live if you don’t have a CS degree don’t even bother applying . smh. Hopefully I relocate soon to the US where one can explore their full potential. Here is just 🙄🙄🙄talkless of the salaries. Thanks for the great video 👍🏾👍🏾
wie hast du im ende einen job gefunden, und als was genau? wie sieht dein Gehalt aus(auch im Vergleich). mir geht es genauso, nur selbstlerner, und ich fürchte, falls man was findet wird man komplett unterbezahlt, über leiharbeit, oder unbezahlte praktika :-( . wäre schön wenn du mehr berichtest
lässt sich die miese bezahlung umgehen, wenn man eine stelle in einem nicht-deutschen Konzern findet?
I had no idea y’all werent in the same room from the thumbnail, sweet!
I am so proud of her! She’s so strong 💪🏾. Strong will power!
She really is!
Thank you. :)
Thank you both. Great story. It's possible!!
Thank you to you both! Just the inspo needed to keep learning.
Very inspiring interview. Hope you do this more often.
You guys are very talented and lovely. I like that you both of you are natural and don't wear a lot of makeup and are all about getting your grind in. Keep up the good work and enjoy life to!! I watch the TechLead and find you IT people very interesting but don't like that you can get depressed doing your projects from time to time. I just enjoy watching your shows I'm older and find your field a blessing to my life. Thank you guys and wishing you nothing but the world of success and happiness. KNOW you guys play a role in my life in some form!!!!
Woke up this morning and watched this entire video from start to finish! Amazing to hear about how persistent she was throughout her journey. Keep up the great content 🙌🏿💯
Learned sooooooooo much from this! Thank you so much!
Thank both of you so much! I definitely relate to Jhilene's story especially health wise. This was very inspirational for me.
I was inspired to code from 3 amazing black women. Maya, Bukola and Jhilene. Thank you all. I’m one month in and would love to share my projects with you all.
This is so sweet thank you! ❤
Hey there Bukola just know you inspire me to keep my head high in the world of tech. U really do inspire me thanks again.
This was a very insightful and wonderful conversation. Thank you two so much for sharing and putting this out there.
I Am A Microsoft Software Developer, I Love 💕 My Job!!!
Hi bukola, I began my journey into the tech aspect few months ago, but I'm starting with frontend and I've been motivated by ur videos..but if this is too much to ask, I'll need a mentorship from u because I'm highly motivated by what you've been doing in ur channel... I know this is too much to ask but will be a great boost for me in my journey..love from 🇳🇬
Starting Bootcamp on Monday 😬 So excited!
How is it going?
How many weeks is the bootcamp?
@@charlesbrown8879 is 22 weeks, I'm with Nucamp
@@leilanidoofy90 a humbling learning curve for sure.
@@claraharmonson2181
Stay positive, today is day 1 for me also. You got this
Awesome!
@Scott is everywhere! LOL
This was very insightful, thank you!!!
Jhilene is a BOSS 🤩
37:39 I can relate to that.
Not sure if it is still going on (given Covid and forced vaccination of healthcare workers) but, during my childhood, black families were hell-bent on their children going to medical school. I wished I had the courage to say "no" sooner than I did - would have saved a lot of money, too 🤦🏾.
This is so incredibly helpful and valuable to not only inspire but provide real useful advice for anyone trying to find how to transition to a career in programming, without having a CS background. Thank you so much for creating this video, and to both Bukola and Jhilene for sharing their own learning experiences and amazingly helpful roadmaps for others! I am giving Revature a serious consideration, and I wondered if there is a similar company offering "bootcamps" for coding in the GIS field.
Sooo good to see! 😍😍😍😍
Right! She has such an inspiring story!
Great interview. I had a similar journey as well and I also think perseverance is key.
how long did it take you to master. i dif pharmaceuticals and iam thinking , i should do a tech course
@@innocentmadanhire2391 I think the biggest thing is learning the fundamentals and start building from there. OOP concepts, databases (relational and non- relational), frontend technologies (web, desktop and phone), APIs (REST and SOAP). The most important part is actually building using these technologies. Mastery comes with competence with implementing, time is relative.
You should get it right now!!! Otherwise the stress might kill you!!! You need it ASAP!!!
I so love *all* of this. Great job!
I’m in Revature lol it’s looking pretty tough but it’s worth it given how easy it is to get in. I kind of regret not getting into CS any sooner because most thing I’m learning is based on computer science.
How was your Revature experience?
great video i got hired at IBM and i only make 45k in this industry its all about location
Wow this was great! I'm actually working on my LEAP application right now haha :)
Good luck!! Hope the tips she gave were helpful!
Thank you, this is so helpful to hear a very realistic journey into this path.
This is so inspiring
Her story really is!
FDM is big in london as well - worked with lots of them at the banks
I really appreciate your videos it has been very informative. I live in New York and currently majoring in finance. However this is something I have no Interest in. I don’ want to waste time and energy into something I don’t like. The thoughts about IT just happens to randomly came to my mind and I started watching different videos, I came across yours and I was hooked. But I have no experience in technology nor do I have any idea about coding. In addition I don’t even know how to stay and where to start in this journey. So being that you took the self taught route, it will a great idea to share with me all the steps you took.
Look into Per Scholas. It's in the Bronx and Brooklyn and it's free. You just have to get accepted. My cousin did it and he got a job after. It's a great opportunity. Best of luck!
you better finish that finance whilst learning programming and get into finance technology ....
Pretty cool! I started the free Harvard CS, but what is the amount of space is needed to be able to work on projects? Like the best type in lab top or desk computer?
Minimum is 8 gb ram and atleast 250 -500 gb hard drive. Ideally you want as much hard drive space as possible to store projects although there are now cloud options available. So about 8-16gb ram and your hard drive should be 500gb or 1TB for more space. You can always buy external hard drives when you run out of space or store your files in the cloud so make sure your ram is 8-16gb at least
Please adjust the sound level, I barely can hear you.
I agree I couldn't always understand her.
Yes! I love listening to stuff like this while cleaning but it's a bit too low.
Done. Can you hear now? 🙂
@@OlatundeAdegbola Congratulations, I admire your sense of humor. It is an essential quality of smart people.
Omg! I’m inspired 🙌
😍👉You're doing a great job here. Thank you for the video.
Thank you! 😃
Inspiring. And that smile... ☺️
Hey you may wanna check out this guy roughneck actual. He was ex-military turned software engineer turned ecommerce expert. I heard his story and it may be good to hear for your audience.
Awesome interview!
Great story, very inspiring, i will take the similar path
Good show!! Apprenticeships are available.. Thanks
I love seeing black women thriving!!!!!
Homegirl said “$40/hr!!!? I’m fully packed and ready to go!” 😂😂
Love the story! MSFT is my focus company too. Switching from Aerospace engineer to software engineer/technical program manager.
Yep, and making even more now. I was an apprentice on that salary.
So inspiring!
Thank you for this VERY helpful :)
She's beautiful 😮
You need to get it!!!
Inspiring story!
Very inspiring
Did she take leetcode test?
This is what Martin Luther fought for, to see black women and men hunting for opportunities fairly and changing their circumstances without any barriers. No one will bring those opportunities to your door step. You hv to make it happen. This is very inspiring.
Loved it
What happen to her dream job cyber security?...maybe her next job?!..
No I'll transfer to another team at some point. Lots of cyber security teams at Microsoft and internal transfers are common. If my team opens up a position I'll apply even then but I want to build a strong foundation in software development before making a transition. Maybe in 2 years or so.
Hi Bukola. I know this is weird but I read a new article about you and how you want to inspire more black women to do join you and the article moved me to look you up on Instagram lol! You inspired me and I want to connect with you!
Inspiring!!!!
I love this video
advice to self-taught programmers what kind of or where to find projects to put on their portfolio
audio is quite low, but great video
Thanks for the feedback, I’ll make sure fix that for the next video!
Dope!!!
Thank you!
Please answer @Bukola Can become a software engineer or programmer with a degree in physics?
I am in school taking classes for coding, does that mean I still have to do a boot camp?
Audio always so low, I like the content though
hello from The Graham Stephan Show
I have a question, since the pandemic and the rise of automation in some jobs. Have coders gotten fired here and there?
Hey! I don't think automation has affected programming jobs! I think the tech workers that have been hit hard are those working at companies that were affected directly by the pandemic (travel, transportation, food, etc.). That's were a lot of the layoffs were this year
In April/May, a couple big tech (Google/Facebook) companies froze hiring, but not sure if hiring is still frozen 🤷🏿♀️
Nice comment.
does front-end dev count as SWE?
Yes! At alot of the FAANG companies front end dev are SWEs
@@Bukola1 Thanks for replying (love the channel!) - I ask b/c I am focusing a lot on HTML/CSS/JS. Even full-stack can be done with vanilla JS and some express/node.Just dont want to be wasting my time... :P
Missed your vids
I promise to make more! I recently switched jobs so I had to slow down for onboarding!
@@Bukola1 oh That must be stressful Thanks for previous vids
what is the name of the company in Ohio she said worked she with, where she got a good training?
Sparkbox.
I signed up for a free bootcamp see you in 6 months
😮😮😮😮
You lots keep deceiving yourselves. Yeah, software engineering is so simple one can learn it all on their own
What an unintelligent comment!
great interview! next interview maybe instagram.com/lenora.porter/ she has a great story also
Microsoft word and XL suck 👎🏾
I wonder if race played a role in why it maybe took so long...I’d like to think the world is different...but who knows. Any non black people have a shorter experience?
@@colorfulcodes so ridiculous. I definitely think colored people in general have to work hard to prove that they’re worth hiring.