@@themegaladon18 It's Camille, Riven, Irelia, Fiora. The four horse women known for their high mobility and are constantly in the meta. (Camille has been falling off recently though)
This Comment!!!! In low elo you should play tanks in different ways. Like for malphite is the AP oneshotting assassin build. For Shen is heartsteel stacking - demolish - splitpushing yorik style. The only difference with yorik is that you can use your R to help during teamfights while with yorik you splitpush more with the maiden
Worthless item. With his build he can actually carry and catch the enemy while also having wave clear. Only thing that could be changed is maybe the sun fire
Perfect Demonstration of the saying * Tanks are unplayable in soloq* . Alois won with massive snowballing, zero mistakes and playing shen a tank which can do some damage. If he was playing other tanks which dont have such dmg output i don't know if he would win. His team mates had poor performance for sure but in the end they barely did smth. Imagine if everyone of them had 0-4 with bad farm ( many of us have witnessed smth similar) . Excellent content brother ! Keep it up!
Yeah that's true if you're good. If you're not, playing a tank means that you can lose the lane but still can be useful so its like depends if you have the micro and the macro for carry or not
@@pm3609 it's not about being good or bad. Alois managed to win due to insane skill gap ( the enemies was plat) , and consider that it was not enough. His team did something minor that was necessary to win. So despite his insane performance he would not win. A bit or heavily you are dependent on the team performance. And last but not least if he was camped by mid and jungle he would not snowball so much.
You have to imagine that these people are all supposed to be around the same rank/mmr. Just look what you had to do in this game… imagine a toplaner who belongs in this rank. I can’t comprehend this.
watching alois makes me wonder why players aren't this calm and just mind their own business/communicate when needed. watching smurfs like him actually makes the game seem enjoyable.
Its not about it, he is playing decent as him. I was hitting top 1 shen in europe for 2 years in s7/s8 and wanted hit top 1 on world, so made new account and lost 3 games in row in silver elo. Shen is not solo carry champ, for win u need decent teamates or atleast one that knows game and can carry with you. Coaching wont help, reaching higher elo will
with sundered sky instead of terminus you can probably win every 1v5 fight. The titanic + sunfire is also overkill, you already delete waves with titanic so you can opt for another item instead of sunfire (hearsteel in low elo, jack'sho is nice, spirit with sundered sky if you need more mr) imho
support has the same problem just as a role. of course support is op, whether or not you go damage, but you can't carry unless you are locking in senna or brand or another damage support.
This is why you should play Mundo. Tanks have two things they could do to make them relevant, CC or damage. A CC tank is like Zac, playing them with 13 kills is super hard to carry with since you're just CCing people and disrupting their team. But a damage tank like Mundo? 13 kills and you will become a raidboss and just wipe their team all day :D
@@konstanZX2 I mean everything you said applies to Shen, Alois built him hybrid here and he was exhausted and felt miserable. Maokai is super strong right now, if you watch Makkro you can see him carrying hard with Ornn killing people and Amumu has been building hybrid for multiple seasons with liandry's and now riftmaker since they brought haunting guise back
Kinda proves how good Tryndamere is in low elo. You can totally suck, get destroyed in your lane and still have an impact. Seems like that guy could have done a lot more damage if he focused on towers. Keep side pressure and they have to send two people.
Thats how i feel when i pick a tank support 50% of the time my team doesnt know how to use my kit like how you not know how blitz and swain work i just cc them you kill them its that easy im close to diamond so i hope those guys are better than platinum guys i get minor brain damage every time i play a game
they will to a certain extent but with the shorter lane its harder to achieve. 3 wave crashes and whatnot still work but its harder to do. Freezing becomes much more key and knowing how and when to freeze. for example you almost never want to freeze against assassins cause then theyll just roam but it is really good into mages if u are ahead. Also keep in mind you dont want to be pushed up against a ganking jungler or support cause it leaves you far to vulnerable. There are a lot of guides on youtube that you can look at for more in depth explanations. Would recommend shok
I had a question about these, is the game too different from when the mythic items were out so the previous champions unranked to master, would those champions tips and advice still apply without the mythic items power?
ornn to chall is way easier than shen to chall imo ornn is so much more self sufficient to the point where he does bruiser levels of damage when fed while tanking full team damage shen is reliant on teamfight pressure but ornn can handle multiple people alone
Don't play shen as a tank. Go bruiser his dmg is insane. In the early game, go for x2 adaptive + stacked grasp, 1 Q is enough to chunk 20% of any champs hp
This would be accurate last season forsho, Jax is kinda mid this season tho. We'll see how long it lasts. If we're looking at all time, Jax is prob consistently the overall best top laner
I am really concerned for when he plays Mundo to masters. He is about the weakest early game champ, has many counters (all of his favourite champs) and his ult lvl 6 gets completely canceled out by ignite. He basically starts being a Champion at lvl 11. But we will see how he does.
ever tried bel veth top? Win conditions: one voidgrug /you don't need all 3 or all 6. just 1 to get the lvl 6 passive), 1 herald. Basically more agressive version of yorick has made a baby with yone clone xd
I challenge you to play with me In emerald 😂I lose 2 of 5 games per day because someone decides to troll even if he is the one winning and on the top of that I still losing more points than I am getting while I have a Winrate of 66% which makes climbing impossible.
tanks in soloq are coinflip. if you play well you are just a neutral element and game depends on your team. but if you play carry champ like yasuo you can solo carry games even with trash team. Thats why I stopped playing tanks and now only play 1v9 champs.
"Every champion except of tanks" Meanwhile ad shaco 30:0 gets oneshoted by literally any champion in the game and can't even 1v3, while also can't kill anything that has more than 2000 hp
@@theunicyclist35 exactly my point, shaco cannot 1v3 even when overfed, a perfect example of useless assassin who is not getting buffed for god knows how long, any other assassin would destroy you with half of that advantage
I challenge you to go from silver 4 LOW MMR Plus 15 , minus 30 account & reach masters😁. I think you can do it, but it seems impossible for me to do a second time. i hate silver.
Im not saying that p1 is high......but i played like 4 games in s4 trying out new champs....and i shit you not, the games in silver seems harder than my games
7:05 Just casually admitting you top 4 favorite champs are the four horseman.
Gwen isn't one of the horsewomen.
yeah like yorick.
@ramenemu_4376 I guess it's akali but 3 out of 4
@@themegaladon18 I'm pretty sure the other one is Irelia not Akali
@@themegaladon18 It's Camille, Riven, Irelia, Fiora.
The four horse women known for their high mobility and are constantly in the meta. (Camille has been falling off recently though)
Top laner: doesnt pick tank
Team: complains
Top laner: picks tank
Team: takes fights without tank present
"Every champ with this score would 1v9, except tanks"
K'Sante enters the room...
k'sante not anymore, hes cancer nerfed
@@GooseYASHgood. fuck ksante
no, no. K'Sante is an assassin!
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As an OTP shen, build heartsteel for low elo. The matchups take longer to close so you could stack up and give someone a massive shield.
This Comment!!!! In low elo you should play tanks in different ways. Like for malphite is the AP oneshotting assassin build. For Shen is heartsteel stacking - demolish - splitpushing yorik style. The only difference with yorik is that you can use your R to help during teamfights while with yorik you splitpush more with the maiden
@@pm3609 I splitpush on Malphite sometimes, but as tank and only with Iceborn Gauntlet, Cho'gath does that well too, same as Sion.
I don't think plat is that low of an elo, he did the most dmg as a tank too. There's not much you can do when the team is that bad lol
Worthless item. With his build he can actually carry and catch the enemy while also having wave clear. Only thing that could be changed is maybe the sun fire
DORANS BLADE DIFF
I was looking for this comment xd
DORANS KLINGE UNTERSCHIED
Perfect Demonstration of the saying * Tanks are unplayable in soloq* . Alois won with massive snowballing, zero mistakes and playing shen a tank which can do some damage. If he was playing other tanks which dont have such dmg output i don't know if he would win. His team mates had poor performance for sure but in the end they barely did smth. Imagine if everyone of them had 0-4 with bad farm ( many of us have witnessed smth similar) . Excellent content brother ! Keep it up!
Yeah that's true if you're good. If you're not, playing a tank means that you can lose the lane but still can be useful so its like depends if you have the micro and the macro for carry or not
@@pm3609 it's not about being good or bad. Alois managed to win due to insane skill gap ( the enemies was plat) , and consider that it was not enough. His team did something minor that was necessary to win. So despite his insane performance he would not win. A bit or heavily you are dependent on the team performance. And last but not least if he was camped by mid and jungle he would not snowball so much.
Every other tank loses to shen in a 1v1 but they are better than shen at either splitpushing or teamfighting.
You have to imagine that these people are all supposed to be around the same rank/mmr.
Just look what you had to do in this game… imagine a toplaner who belongs in this rank. I can’t comprehend this.
watching alois makes me wonder why players aren't this calm and just mind their own business/communicate when needed. watching smurfs like him actually makes the game seem enjoyable.
i think shen is stronger than you're giving him credit for, maybe xpetu can coach you like slogdog did
Its not about it, he is playing decent as him. I was hitting top 1 shen in europe for 2 years in s7/s8 and wanted hit top 1 on world, so made new account and lost 3 games in row in silver elo. Shen is not solo carry champ, for win u need decent teamates or atleast one that knows game and can carry with you. Coaching wont help, reaching higher elo will
definitly he must see xpetu shen tehnology
@@agenttomek2299 Sure buddy, in that case I'm faker
@@agenttomek2299 Trust me, you're not "top 1 shen" if you're losing 3 games in silver.
@@TimmehTRP There is no much u could do when ur 5/0 shen vs 5/0 master yi, especially 7-8 years ago when jungle items was broken, trust me ):
Lowkey have to appreciate the Tryndamere dmg output on game end screen considering that he inted lane.
To be expected. He was given 40 minutes.
LIKE THE LEGEND OLYMPUS SAYS "DOUBLE ADAPTIVE GRASP BOOM DORANS BLADE DIFF DORANS KLINGE UNTERSCHIED!!!"
Drinking game, drink every time Alois says "kill participation".
what about when I say Fundamentals?
@@AloisNL He doesn't want to give himself alcohol poisoning.
Poppy with the new ingenious strat with eclipse, sunderered sky and full tank afterward can indeed carry games
I see that Rust jackhammer sound 5:11!!
Alois can I just say how nice it is you have a new found love in yorick after playing this game for so long
Bro do you actually not know about the DORANS KLINGE UNTERSCHIED?
with sundered sky instead of terminus you can probably win every 1v5 fight. The titanic + sunfire is also overkill, you already delete waves with titanic so you can opt for another item instead of sunfire (hearsteel in low elo, jack'sho is nice, spirit with sundered sky if you need more mr) imho
Papa alois doesn't know about dorans blade diff
support has the same problem just as a role. of course support is op, whether or not you go damage, but you can't carry unless you are locking in senna or brand or another damage support.
LOVE OF MEN TOESSSSSSS
Nice touch that one of the songs was "Hope and Dreams".
@9:35 Unlucky fizz man.
I appreciate the undertale music at 13:25 boss
starting doran's shield on shen? i'm surprised that alois doesn't know about the DORAN'S BLADE UNTERSCHIED
As a tank player this hurts me so much, please teach us tank players on how to escape emerald, cheers.
Ig don't play tanks 😢
Play tank but build dmg :bigbrain
as a dutch, could you tell me, do you plan to develop a proper language at some point or are you going to stick to baby-english/baby-german mix?
Dorans blade diffff!!!
5:07 do i hear jackhammer from rust?
5:08 🤔🤔🤔 the free loot sound
5:08 You play rust ! Spotted !
Wow. Well played. You carried them.
Hes also trying to play a Warden like a Vanguard.
19:10 LMAO
This is why you should play Mundo. Tanks have two things they could do to make them relevant, CC or damage. A CC tank is like Zac, playing them with 13 kills is super hard to carry with since you're just CCing people and disrupting their team. But a damage tank like Mundo? 13 kills and you will become a raidboss and just wipe their team all day :D
Zac is also a raidboss if you build hin hybrid he can 1v9+ has cc. A real cc tank would be more a maokai, ornn... Amumu toplane😂
@@konstanZX2 I mean everything you said applies to Shen, Alois built him hybrid here and he was exhausted and felt miserable. Maokai is super strong right now, if you watch Makkro you can see him carrying hard with Ornn killing people and Amumu has been building hybrid for multiple seasons with liandry's and now riftmaker since they brought haunting guise back
FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS
yeah, that's how my games are looking like in plat. And I'm the jungler who cannot carry when all three lanes are inting every game
Finally he feels the pain
That is how I feel when playing panth bruiser, versus panth assasino
Always go Doran’s blade with Shen lvl 1 bc your auto will do DAMAGE with the DORANS BLADE DIFFF
Kinda proves how good Tryndamere is in low elo. You can totally suck, get destroyed in your lane and still have an impact. Seems like that guy could have done a lot more damage if he focused on towers. Keep side pressure and they have to send two people.
maybe endgame heartsteel or thonmail is beeter than sunfire because you dont need wave clear or the dmg late game
What do you think about climbing with Pantheon Top?
Thats how i feel when i pick a tank support 50% of the time my team doesnt know how to use my kit like how you not know how blitz and swain work i just cc them you kill them its that easy im close to diamond so i hope those guys are better than platinum guys i get minor brain damage every time i play a game
Fun dementors (cute Harry Potter dementor), title idea
Hey @AloisNL Does your wave management fundamentals also apply ti mid lane??
they will to a certain extent but with the shorter lane its harder to achieve. 3 wave crashes and whatnot still work but its harder to do. Freezing becomes much more key and knowing how and when to freeze. for example you almost never want to freeze against assassins cause then theyll just roam but it is really good into mages if u are ahead. Also keep in mind you dont want to be pushed up against a ganking jungler or support cause it leaves you far to vulnerable. There are a lot of guides on youtube that you can look at for more in depth explanations. Would recommend shok
I had a question about these, is the game too different from when the mythic items were out so the previous champions unranked to master, would those champions tips and advice still apply without the mythic items power?
what would be different? same game
you should go "DORANS KLINGE START-DOPPELTE ADAPTIVE KRAFT" with shen
After seeing him complan this much with shen i really want him to play unranked to masters in adc any adc
I think you should put in the next votes one ap toplaner as a possible 1st ap champ guide in season 14
He played Gwen and Kayle before I think
That LL Stylish ref tho :3
The reason you werent strong is because dorans shield, you need blade for the DORAN KLINGE UNTERSCHIED
No randuins vs trynd is this guy for real
as a Shen main, this is me EVERY game.
40 seconds in: I hope my team plays really well!
ornn to chall is way easier than shen to chall imo
ornn is so much more self sufficient to the point where he does bruiser levels of damage when fed while tanking full team damage
shen is reliant on teamfight pressure but ornn can handle multiple people alone
Don't play shen as a tank. Go bruiser his dmg is insane. In the early game, go for x2 adaptive + stacked grasp, 1 Q is enough to chunk 20% of any champs hp
Time to pay the Petu tax
Try out the dorans blade diff
i am tilted just by watching this.
41 kp
you should do some coaching with xPetu
Climb with Full ad Sion🗣️🗣️
Tanks are hard mode confirmed by Pro Player
Alois does not know about doran's blade diff
which elo was this ?
Why not pick Jax, go full tank and still 1-shot anyone at your sight?
Jax is not broken.
This would be accurate last season forsho, Jax is kinda mid this season tho. We'll see how long it lasts. If we're looking at all time, Jax is prob consistently the overall best top laner
We won! But at what cost...
This game shows perfectly how fckn disgusting tryndamere is
But adcs would be like T A N K S A R E B R O K E N
I am really concerned for when he plays Mundo to masters. He is about the weakest early game champ, has many counters (all of his favourite champs) and his ult lvl 6 gets completely canceled out by ignite. He basically starts being a Champion at lvl 11. But we will see how he does.
bro learned nothing from DORANS KLINGE UNTERSCHIEN
Tryndamere next maybe?
We can see a good example of a pro player of league of legends get on rock bottom of sanity. Daily feeling on LoL 😆
really WP
Plat 3 sups are the worst, every single time I lose in emerald for some reason riot thinks is good to lane an ADC a whole elo up their sup
TEEMO SOON 🥺
Next climb should be AD shyvana Top.
You owe us for being a piggie and forgetting us off the tier list entirely
Quinn! Do it
You should get coached by xpetu
DORANS KLINGENUNTERSCHIED IST EIN MUSS
La gente se queja de los tanques pero un tanque fed no hace nada 😅😂
TANK WITH 70K DMG, BALANCED
to be honest, you also fed the trynd kinda well into the game :D next time dont make their top laner a monster aswell and its free
what are u typing
blind or what
kraken slayer shen for the carry xD
Olaf next please!!!!!
Unbench the kench
ever tried bel veth top?
Win conditions: one voidgrug /you don't need all 3 or all 6. just 1 to get the lvl 6 passive), 1 herald. Basically more agressive version of yorick has made a baby with yone clone xd
I challenge you to play with me In emerald 😂I lose 2 of 5 games per day because someone decides to troll even if he is the one winning and on the top of that I still losing more points than I am getting while I have a Winrate of 66% which makes climbing impossible.
Dorans blade diff
AINT NO WAY THAT WAS PLAT ELO, the all game I thought its maximum bronze, whats wrong with players
DORANS KLINGE UNTERSCHIED
tanks in soloq are coinflip. if you play well you are just a neutral element and game depends on your team. but if you play carry champ like yasuo you can solo carry games even with trash team. Thats why I stopped playing tanks and now only play 1v9 champs.
"Every champion except of tanks" Meanwhile ad shaco 30:0 gets oneshoted by literally any champion in the game and can't even 1v3, while also can't kill anything that has more than 2000 hp
Just don't play Shaco, not only is that champion useless but incredibly tilting to play against, just like Teemo.
@@theunicyclist35 exactly my point, shaco cannot 1v3 even when overfed, a perfect example of useless assassin who is not getting buffed for god knows how long, any other assassin would destroy you with half of that advantage
Bro i hate shacos, its like almost every single shaco knows theyre champ is useless past min 25 and they still decide to get all the kills
Poor Alois u.u
I challenge you to go from silver 4 LOW MMR Plus 15 , minus 30 account & reach masters😁. I think you can do it, but it seems impossible for me to do a second time. i hate silver.
just stop playing on that account untill dumb riot fix their system
Try gnar out
Jayce next pls
Shen has to be top 3 aura less champs
Im not saying that p1 is high......but i played like 4 games in s4 trying out new champs....and i shit you not, the games in silver seems harder than my games
hey piggy dont disrespect shen :(