I'll be honest: I have used it twice during my last 1000 buy in live tournament. I was ITM and used it to stall for a level more, because the other tables were still playing. I won 800 more (5800 total) thanks to that. I do agree that staling is bad, and I strongly support the action clock and time cards. We had these and I used them at full. This let me 30 sec more before action to play. It was decisive, so I don't regret it. I dislike this strategy, but if It is convenient for me, than I use it as any other player is allow to do the same.
6:46 you got me fucked up if you ever think I'm folding pocket kings at a final table w 6 players off of 30 bigs leaving only 15 bigs behind. That's great spot to potentially triple up and make a run for first place. If they get cracked, they get cracked. If they have aces, they have aces. But I'm never folding pocket kings in a 3 way all in on a final table with pocket kings. No way Jose.
Not only that, with BB ante you can win a $1000 with a $100 chip, and you don't have to put antes until you are big blind. You have a really good odds when big blind puts all the antes.
Yes, that is why he said at the beginning of video he would not discuss the time as a reason. He discussed all the other reasons. Why do people comment on a video they hadn't even watched?
Whilst I vehemently disagree with the comments on stalling, this really is fantastic content. Very well put together and even the production quality and voiceover is absolutely perfect More of this please
You say in the video the shorter stacks can silently collude to stall. To me it sounds like a response to the big stacks that move the little stacks all in and if there are a few big stacks they silently collude by checking down until the river to increase the odds of knocking a short stack out.
I don’t even know what he meant by that, stalling is purely selfish and is in no way collusion by smaller stacks. If anything, stalling actually hurts the other smaller stacks. You’re stalling and hoping that one of the other smaller stacks will bust before you. The bigger stacks are not really affected either way by short stacks stalling as they are at less risk of busting, they just get inconvenienced.
Bigger stacks are hurt a lot by stalling near the bubble. They get a huge advantage from bullying smaller stacks that are strongly disincentived to play a big pot, and stalling limits the hands they get to press that advantage.
The first 2/3 of this video regarding the opens/3bs for most but not all of stack is significantly more interesting and perhaps worthy of a larger video. It would be interesting to find more spots where you make these plays. By the time you got to the leave-a-chip section at the end it was relatively trivial. You also never mention this specifically, but another one of the big reasons why you fold in the multi-way spots is because the last players all-in range is often so strong that your equity goes down plus they are favorites HU vs the other allin opponent. For example, in one of the spots the 70bb chip leader reshove range was AA KK and he’s a big favorite to bust the person who 3b our open. Nice video, thanks for the quality content.
Well if you’re heads up with a player and they do this couldn’t you just raise them to all in ?? I mean if your gonna call an almost all in why wouldn’t you just re raise to all in?? Seems like this would stop this bs
I started doing the almost all in back in 2009 or something. The reason I started doing it was because I accidentally folded to someone click-raising instead of going all in for like 2,5bb. I played too many tables (like everyone else back then) and if someone went all in you would only get the fold or call button as options but since he wasn't all in I could re-raise so because I got the three buttons it didn't register as an all in in my mind and I just quickly folded my 92o or whatever. After this I started doing it for that reason alone. It wasn't rare at all that BB would fold to my 2-3bb raise with like 0,2bb behind. After that I also realized that it fucked with my stats in peoples huds because it lowered my fold to 3bet so I started doing it at any stack depth, not only when I was really short.
Sound alike a lot of work to use huds in poker as well. I do not use any outside programs, and have a special nack for winning tournaments. I do love all ins, and all but one bets.
The most obvious reason to do it.... In most tourneys you are still entitled to the full Big-Bling ante even if you only cover a fraction of it. If you save a $100 chip and the BB ante is $5k you still win the entire $5k chip if you win the next hand. You are basically giving yourself a freeroll, there's actually no reason NOT to leave a chip.
No, most rules allow you to win the big blind ante even if your stack is under the total amount of BB ante. The BB ante is just a way to speed up the game in leu anteing every hand so they allow you to win the full amount even if you are under it @@zlatantherogue549
Doesn't this only work if you plan to fold to a re-raise/anytime other time during the hand, when you'd be getting all the equitty in the world to call. Makes no sense
@@reezellthiayou can’t go almost all in on only hands you’ll be folding or everyone would reraise you exploitatively. You have to mix in (I’d assume at a higher rate) hands where you’re going for value.
Why i don't do it : If my internet connnection drops at this moment i will ending folding. THe EV of the "almost all in" is just 0.01BB +ev than just all in... but if i was sure 100% to have a perfectly stable connexion i would do it.
Using other short stacks to live longer in tournament is strategy. That's the point of tourney. It's not collusion. There is no agreement. It's using other players situation to better yours. It's not bad for the game.
i don’t really think you can say it’s soft cheating bc it “lets smaller stacks collude to reduce the effects of ICM”. For one there’s no collusion. And then secondly you’re allowed to use up your time and youre allowed to go all-in minus one chip. If that reduces the advantages of ICM that’s a strategy allowed through the game
Bubble factor and Risk Premium isn't conventionally applied to postflop spots, so your heuristics may feel "off" here. Traditionally, these are calculated preflop by measuring the $EV losses and gains when two stacks shove all in. On the river though, the pot can significantly reduce Bubble Factor, especially if the pot is large relative to the stack. Bubble factor is calculated using this formula: ($EV LOSS if you lose) / ($EV gain if we win) Risk premium is calculated as the difference between the ($EV Required Equity - Chip EV Required Equity)
When analysing whether the strategy is exploitable the argument that it isn’t is based on the fact, that the BB cannot call the jam even when he knows we are folding. However, what happens when co just minraises/raises non all-in with the intent to fold if we fold? It might be a strategy where the co loses chips according to EV but, since we also get shorter, actually gains value according to icm
People overthinking the game makes for videos like this. If that move is advantageous for the player then why shouldn't they use it? They are playing this game to win, like every person on the table. If they think this strategy is the best chance, then they will do it. Same with big pots. Why they raise a big blind with weaker cards just to force smaller pots to fold? They take advantage of their situation to win the game. That is all. Your job is to find counter play to this. Thst is where the strategy of the game lies. You have to play the best strategy to you at any given time.
I do this for 2 reasons, first for the ante, if i only leave 1 chip even a 100 chip i am still eligible to collect the entire ante which late it a tournament can be thousands. Secondly an all in gets everyones attention, but a raise doesnt and they may not realized that i have 1 chip behind. I dont agree that its cheating at all, u are within your rights to bet whatever and take as long as u want if someone doesnt like it they can simply call clock on you and more recently they have introduced time banks/chips so if a player is strategic enough to save them for these situations then they deserve it. I had 3 minutes worth of time banks left and i did the 1 chip behind and then used all my timebanks and got a pay jump out of it. No one seemed to mind and evryone understood the logic
Only two reasons make sense really, if you raise with lets say 44 and you get 3 or 4 all-ins and pay jumps would be worth a fold you gave that option. Secondly, I was doing this at live poker tournaments 20 years ago. People in the bb or sb could be talking, drinking etc. and if you go all-in from lets sat the cutoff or high-jack, its ANNOUNCED and a sb or bb might says, well its only so much more, I got pot odds to call, if the blinds are 3k and I got 10 k and I rase 9 K And they are not paying attention, they might fold, when pot odds says call with any two cards. But if the see a 3x raise, and "think" they might face a bigger bet on the flop if the call, they will just fold, maybe. I actually had some jack azz on the button who folded, then announced you guys might as well call he's only got one chip left, well I won anyway, then doubled twice, had a good comeback going, table breaks, FIRST HAND I get QQ, I bet, get raised, the shove, and he had AK and hit K on river. Should have just called the reraise and shoved the flop, lol.
Now I don't know much about tournament rules but poker isn't a hobby it is financial endeavor anything within the rules is not cheating soft cheating cannot exist
I’ve been doing this for 8 years or so The chip you leave behind is worth more than a chip, so ranges should be constructed around it I also one time left a guy with one chip and checked back the nuts (online) I then stole the blinds until the blinds got to him The opponent and I both benefited from him being left with 1 chip
@@standuplive1 yeah I was the chip leader, so I applied pressure while others had to fold to wait for the 1 chip guy to get out It wouldn’t have worked if I was 3rd in chips
I thought it was to keep the tiniest pf fold equity after the bubble, when you put in 90% in with JTs and two players behind you shove, the fold is smart because of the pay jump
@EricSmyth4Christ so you're one of those guys that incapable of winning a tournament? And now you just have to bother the entire table with your own lack of skills?
this is only worth doing when you're on the bubble. having said that if i have a lot of chips, I will purposely put shortstacks all in, idc about their 1 chip, that shit is getting put in. and doing this once you're in the money is absolutely pointless, it's not worth it for a 5-10% ladder up.
Online Poker was great in 2006 when all there was for education was deuces cracked, all this solver shit ruined poker and your company had a big role in that
Glad I don't have to do this shady stuff to win or make final tables . .one of my skills is I will win hands with marginal holdings against certain players types .
ok how in the world would this ever work , cause the only way this works if you playing a idiot that didnt notice you put all your chips in but one, so all the opponent has to do when you put all your chips in but one chip is to raise it by that one chip and you have to call or fold , am i missing something, and of course you didnt say all in so are you playing a non observant idiot or something, how would this work if that guy has more money that you, and then it would never work if you had more money than him , what the hell are you talking about
Yes. You push almost-all-in with A9, the observant button pushes all-in for more chips... And then the big blind re-shoves for even more chips. Your few remaining chips might be better saved than pushed, if an elimination of someone else will increase the payout for the following elimination. Analyzing this situation is one purpose of this video. If you are heads-up, then you'll always call off the remaining chips, or bet them yourself; that puts you in the same position as if you had gone all-in in the first place.
and how would you even have that one chip left if the observant button pushes all in for more chips and then the big blind for more chips then its up to the dealer to count the chips stack right@@andrewstudley234
i love clowning on nerds who think this actully has some benefit. keep on being tools fellas. it reminds me of idiots who back into parking spots beacuse its "easier to leave later".
I mean it definitely does. Especially in large field tournaments when pay jumps happen often. Also if there’s an ante and you have a chip behind you can still win the entire ante that can keep you alive until another pay jump/ give you a chance to spin up
It can have benefit. Not every time but if it puts you in the money in a big high stakes tournament it could hundreds or thousands of dollars. That is definitely beneficial… and you’re wrong about the backing in. It is safer to back first when you start from in the road and see where you’re backing immediately. Backing after leaves more time for something to get behind you and you often can’t see what’s coming down the road. Tons and tons of accidents happen from backing out of a parking spot. Almost all of them would have been avoided if they had backed in first.
@@insomnyteq I’ve played a few hundred hours of online mtts. Started fake jamming about half a year ago and I’ve definitely made a pay jump or two extra because of it. Online tournaments you might never be in a spot that makes sense to use this but if you play enough online it’ll come up a good bit
Have you ever employed this tactic? Let us know what you’d like Matt to cover next!
just on the bubble so you have best chance to cash
CO shouldnt shove too. He could isolate UTG w 60% stack too which is 12bbs and fold some hands to 2 push behind. Same for BU , etc
Yes I called it a multi-way block the next person to put me all in must raise more to iso late. Can’t just flat
I'll be honest: I have used it twice during my last 1000 buy in live tournament. I was ITM and used it to stall for a level more, because the other tables were still playing. I won 800 more (5800 total) thanks to that.
I do agree that staling is bad, and I strongly support the action clock and time cards. We had these and I used them at full. This let me 30 sec more before action to play. It was decisive, so I don't regret it. I dislike this strategy, but if It is convenient for me, than I use it as any other player is allow to do the same.
“I’m almost all-in.”
😂
"I'm most-in"
I do "almost all-in" on GG Poker because of annoying sound effect there when anybody goes all-in
just turn it off in settings
6:46 you got me fucked up if you ever think I'm folding pocket kings at a final table w 6 players off of 30 bigs leaving only 15 bigs behind. That's great spot to potentially triple up and make a run for first place. If they get cracked, they get cracked. If they have aces, they have aces. But I'm never folding pocket kings in a 3 way all in on a final table with pocket kings. No way Jose.
No need to explain that for 16 minutes. To me it’s simple - you leave chip behind to buy extra time at bubble.
Not only that, with BB ante you can win a $1000 with a $100 chip, and you don't have to put antes until you are big blind. You have a really good odds when big blind puts all the antes.
What about on a FT being short stack , opening most of ur stack - incase there is 2 or more Jams behind u - getting a pay jump?
@@srki22didnt think about that, good point
I just do it occasionally to be funny when I go all in before late reg ends
Yes, that is why he said at the beginning of video he would not discuss the time as a reason. He discussed all the other reasons. Why do people comment on a video they hadn't even watched?
Whilst I vehemently disagree with the comments on stalling, this really is fantastic content. Very well put together and even the production quality and voiceover is absolutely perfect
More of this please
Loved your content, haven't tuned in awhile. You still streaming?
Holy cow, Weazel out in the wild. Bin those nits, son.
You say in the video the shorter stacks can silently collude to stall. To me it sounds like a response to the big stacks that move the little stacks all in and if there are a few big stacks they silently collude by checking down until the river to increase the odds of knocking a short stack out.
I don’t even know what he meant by that, stalling is purely selfish and is in no way collusion by smaller stacks.
If anything, stalling actually hurts the other smaller stacks. You’re stalling and hoping that one of the other smaller stacks will bust before you.
The bigger stacks are not really affected either way by short stacks stalling as they are at less risk of busting, they just get inconvenienced.
Bigger stacks are hurt a lot by stalling near the bubble. They get a huge advantage from bullying smaller stacks that are strongly disincentived to play a big pot, and stalling limits the hands they get to press that advantage.
The first 2/3 of this video regarding the opens/3bs for most but not all of stack is significantly more interesting and perhaps worthy of a larger video. It would be interesting to find more spots where you make these plays.
By the time you got to the leave-a-chip section at the end it was relatively trivial.
You also never mention this specifically, but another one of the big reasons why you fold in the multi-way spots is because the last players all-in range is often so strong that your equity goes down plus they are favorites HU vs the other allin opponent. For example, in one of the spots the 70bb chip leader reshove range was AA KK and he’s a big favorite to bust the person who 3b our open.
Nice video, thanks for the quality content.
Well if you’re heads up with a player and they do this couldn’t you just raise them to all in ?? I mean if your gonna call an almost all in why wouldn’t you just re raise to all in?? Seems like this would stop this bs
More Matt Hunt!!! Love the way this guys breaks poker down.
I started doing the almost all in back in 2009 or something. The reason I started doing it was because I accidentally folded to someone click-raising instead of going all in for like 2,5bb. I played too many tables (like everyone else back then) and if someone went all in you would only get the fold or call button as options but since he wasn't all in I could re-raise so because I got the three buttons it didn't register as an all in in my mind and I just quickly folded my 92o or whatever. After this I started doing it for that reason alone. It wasn't rare at all that BB would fold to my 2-3bb raise with like 0,2bb behind.
After that I also realized that it fucked with my stats in peoples huds because it lowered my fold to 3bet so I started doing it at any stack depth, not only when I was really short.
Jack Strauss invented this by accident after not seeing a chip under the rail. With that chip he went on to win the World Series of poker….
Sound alike a lot of work to use huds in poker as well. I do not use any outside programs, and have a special nack for winning tournaments. I do love all ins, and all but one bets.
No, I do not win them all but 25-50% is great for profiting.
The most obvious reason to do it.... In most tourneys you are still entitled to the full Big-Bling ante even if you only cover a fraction of it. If you save a $100 chip and the BB ante is $5k you still win the entire $5k chip if you win the next hand.
You are basically giving yourself a freeroll, there's actually no reason NOT to leave a chip.
I never knew that was the case. Does the WSOP follow that rule?
lol, in your home tournys maybe..
No, most rules allow you to win the big blind ante even if your stack is under the total amount of BB ante. The BB ante is just a way to speed up the game in leu anteing every hand so they allow you to win the full amount even if you are under it @@zlatantherogue549
Doesn't this only work if you plan to fold to a re-raise/anytime other time during the hand, when you'd be getting all the equitty in the world to call. Makes no sense
@@reezellthiayou can’t go almost all in on only hands you’ll be folding or everyone would reraise you exploitatively. You have to mix in (I’d assume at a higher rate) hands where you’re going for value.
new trend that's been going on for at least 10 years
If I did it in my home tourneys I'd get kicked out lol 😂
Why i don't do it :
If my internet connnection drops at this moment i will ending folding. THe EV of the "almost all in" is just 0.01BB +ev than just all in... but if i was sure 100% to have a perfectly stable connexion i would do it.
Using other short stacks to live longer in tournament is strategy. That's the point of tourney. It's not collusion. There is no agreement. It's using other players situation to better yours. It's not bad for the game.
If stalling is permitted, then don't blame the players for doing it.
i don’t really think you can say it’s soft cheating bc it “lets smaller stacks collude to reduce the effects of ICM”. For one there’s no collusion. And then secondly you’re allowed to use up your time and youre allowed to go all-in minus one chip. If that reduces the advantages of ICM that’s a strategy allowed through the game
13:20 how do you get the BF=0.16 and Equity required=13.8%? And i remember if BF
Bubble factor and Risk Premium isn't conventionally applied to postflop spots, so your heuristics may feel "off" here.
Traditionally, these are calculated preflop by measuring the $EV losses and gains when two stacks shove all in. On the river though, the pot can significantly reduce Bubble Factor, especially if the pot is large relative to the stack.
Bubble factor is calculated using this formula: ($EV LOSS if you lose) / ($EV gain if we win)
Risk premium is calculated as the difference between the ($EV Required Equity - Chip EV Required Equity)
I dont play poker but very interesting video.
News for you 20 year olds....this isn't new. Not at all.
if u bet all in when in live action and leave a few chips if u get raised and call u get to see opponents hand can b valuable information
When analysing whether the strategy is exploitable the argument that it isn’t is based on the fact, that the BB cannot call the jam even when he knows we are folding. However, what happens when co just minraises/raises non all-in with the intent to fold if we fold? It might be a strategy where the co loses chips according to EV but, since we also get shorter, actually gains value according to icm
How could stalling help a small stack? Youre getting less hands at lower blinds
Thank you so much GTOWizard for putting such great content, thank you Matt, loved it!
People overthinking the game makes for videos like this. If that move is advantageous for the player then why shouldn't they use it? They are playing this game to win, like every person on the table. If they think this strategy is the best chance, then they will do it. Same with big pots. Why they raise a big blind with weaker cards just to force smaller pots to fold? They take advantage of their situation to win the game. That is all. Your job is to find counter play to this. Thst is where the strategy of the game lies. You have to play the best strategy to you at any given time.
I do this for 2 reasons, first for the ante, if i only leave 1 chip even a 100 chip i am still eligible to collect the entire ante which late it a tournament can be thousands. Secondly an all in gets everyones attention, but a raise doesnt and they may not realized that i have 1 chip behind.
I dont agree that its cheating at all, u are within your rights to bet whatever and take as long as u want if someone doesnt like it they can simply call clock on you and more recently they have introduced time banks/chips so if a player is strategic enough to save them for these situations then they deserve it. I had 3 minutes worth of time banks left and i did the 1 chip behind and then used all my timebanks and got a pay jump out of it. No one seemed to mind and evryone understood the logic
I verbalize all in to negate this tactic.
wtf is up with youtube giving 2 15 second unskippable adds now? they want to force people off the platform like twitch did?
Yeah, also in recommended list they insert more ads per scrolling the page.
they are also making another push not allowing anyone with an adblocker to watch videos - this is gonna backfire :P
Life is tough these days, we want everything on a platter 😂
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In Double or nothing SNGs, this is even more important.
I know poker rules but dont play poker often. Safe to say, I understood nothing 😂😂😂
This is too technical for me to understand it. But it looks like a quality made video.
Fun Fun until you get a disconnect, if you see what i mean 😪
Only two reasons make sense really, if you raise with lets say 44 and you get 3 or 4 all-ins and pay jumps would be worth a fold you gave that option. Secondly, I was doing this at live poker tournaments 20 years ago. People in the bb or sb could be talking, drinking etc. and if you go all-in from lets sat the cutoff or high-jack, its ANNOUNCED and a sb or bb might says, well its only so much more, I got pot odds to call, if the blinds are 3k and I got 10 k and I rase 9 K And they are not paying attention, they might fold, when pot odds says call with any two cards. But if the see a 3x raise, and "think" they might face a bigger bet on the flop if the call, they will just fold, maybe. I actually had some jack azz on the button who folded, then announced you guys might as well call he's only got one chip left, well I won anyway, then doubled twice, had a good comeback going, table breaks, FIRST HAND I get QQ, I bet, get raised, the shove, and he had AK and hit K on river. Should have just called the reraise and shoved the flop, lol.
Chip ev??? this isn’t Pokemon
Really interesting analysis - thanks for sharing this!
Stalling is NOT cheating
Now I don't know much about tournament rules but poker isn't a hobby it is financial endeavor anything within the rules is not cheating soft cheating cannot exist
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No wants to be bubble boy
Matt, I had no idea you were part of wizard!
I’ve been doing this for 8 years or so
The chip you leave behind is worth more than a chip, so ranges should be constructed around it
I also one time left a guy with one chip and checked back the nuts (online)
I then stole the blinds until the blinds got to him
The opponent and I both benefited from him being left with 1 chip
The 2nd part of your comment is really cool. Finding ways to benefit by making others benefit is a really valuable skill in poker. Thanks
@@standuplive1 yeah I was the chip leader, so I applied pressure while others had to fold to wait for the 1 chip guy to get out
It wouldn’t have worked if I was 3rd in chips
As someone who LOVES bubble pressure this is such a useful comment
@@nickiazzetta7814 unfortunately most villains usually shrug and shove the last chip in without thinking and stack themselves
It’s so frustrating lol
@@nickiazzetta7814 and you can’t tell them the strategy (and how it benefits them), because that’s literally collusion I think
I thought it was to keep the tiniest pf fold equity after the bubble, when you put in 90% in with JTs and two players behind you shove, the fold is smart because of the pay jump
great content!
I can’t bet-fold half my stack w KK that’s ludicrous
You do this during the ante, too bad bro your chip still goes in next hand.
staling on the bubble is fine but for any other reason. is just lack of skill
Because of the mechanics of poker, the one chips you leave behind will over realize its equity
@EricSmyth4Christ so you're one of those guys that incapable of winning a tournament? And now you just have to bother the entire table with your own lack of skills?
@@jvw8129 lol wow
You’re the girl in the Jordan Peterson interview
I didn’t say that at all
@EricSmyth4Christ great story man 0/10
Its not new at all
this is only worth doing when you're on the bubble. having said that if i have a lot of chips, I will purposely put shortstacks all in, idc about their 1 chip, that shit is getting put in. and doing this once you're in the money is absolutely pointless, it's not worth it for a 5-10% ladder up.
Online Poker was great in 2006 when all there was for education was deuces cracked, all this solver shit ruined poker and your company had a big role in that
now you have to put in effort, it is what it is
Have you ever consider to study new-era trends?
Let me call the floor when ever someone thinks more than a few seconds, it is soft cheating! what a non-sense.
Glad I don't have to do this shady stuff to win or make final tables . .one of my skills is I will win hands with marginal holdings against certain players types .
sure
ok how in the world would this ever work , cause the only way this works if you playing a idiot that didnt notice you put all your chips in but one, so all the opponent has to do when you put all your chips in but one chip is to raise it by that one chip and you have to call or fold , am i missing something, and of course you didnt say all in so are you playing a non observant idiot or something, how would this work if that guy has more money that you, and then it would never work if you had more money than him , what the hell are you talking about
Yes. You push almost-all-in with A9, the observant button pushes all-in for more chips... And then the big blind re-shoves for even more chips. Your few remaining chips might be better saved than pushed, if an elimination of someone else will increase the payout for the following elimination. Analyzing this situation is one purpose of this video.
If you are heads-up, then you'll always call off the remaining chips, or bet them yourself; that puts you in the same position as if you had gone all-in in the first place.
and how would you even have that one chip left if the observant button pushes all in for more chips and then the big blind for more chips then its up to the dealer to count the chips stack right@@andrewstudley234
16 minutes really? This could be a short
i love clowning on nerds who think this actully has some benefit. keep on being tools fellas. it reminds me of idiots who back into parking spots beacuse its "easier to leave later".
I mean it definitely does. Especially in large field tournaments when pay jumps happen often. Also if there’s an ante and you have a chip behind you can still win the entire ante that can keep you alive until another pay jump/ give you a chance to spin up
@@nickiazzetta7814 i understand the theory behind it, good luck realizing that equity there
It can have benefit. Not every time but if it puts you in the money in a big high stakes tournament it could hundreds or thousands of dollars. That is definitely beneficial… and you’re wrong about the backing in. It is safer to back first when you start from in the road and see where you’re backing immediately. Backing after leaves more time for something to get behind you and you often can’t see what’s coming down the road. Tons and tons of accidents happen from backing out of a parking spot. Almost all of them would have been avoided if they had backed in first.
Lol poker is not dead
@@insomnyteq I’ve played a few hundred hours of online mtts. Started fake jamming about half a year ago and I’ve definitely made a pay jump or two extra because of it. Online tournaments you might never be in a spot that makes sense to use this but if you play enough online it’ll come up a good bit