Tier List: Best Hard Supports for Beginners | Dota 2 7.28c

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  • This tier list tells you the best heroes for beginner support players (in my opinion). I briefly run through most of the popular position 5 heroes and tell you what's good or bad about them.
    Timestamps
    0:00 - Criteria for good beginner support heroes
    8:20 - Tier list of best support heroes for beginners
    37:20 - Summary
    Hero guide videos
    How to play Jakiro | Dota 2 7.28b - • How to play Jakiro | D...
    Understanding Your Spells ft. @Alexander Coccia | (Crystal Maiden) 7.27d - • Understanding Your Spe...
    Effective Spell Usage in Lane ft. @Alexander Coccia | (Crystal Maiden) 7.27d - • Effective Spell Usage ...
    Hero Guides in game
    Witch Doctor - steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
    Ogre Magi - steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
    Lich - steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
    Ancient Apparition - steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
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  • @jamestyler5497
    @jamestyler5497 3 роки тому +158

    as someone whos trying to learn this stuff with 0 friends who play this game, i appreciate the content. Your vibe is mellow too compared to other channels ive visited.. you try and make it as simple as possible instead of pro level stratz.

  • @ProfDCoy
    @ProfDCoy 3 роки тому +33

    I like your point about Crystal Maiden. Crystal Maiden feels like the veteran player's pick for a new player to win the game (because free global mana regen is both super strong and super braindead at low levels)...but not a good pick for a new player to LEARN the game. She has some crucial problems that new players struggle with - squishiness, mana management, etc. She's a nice hero for sure, but she's the kind of hero that a longtime player who's forgotten what it's like to learn DotA THINKS someone should play to learn DotA.

  • @SK3564
    @SK3564 3 роки тому +9

    I remember when I started playing dota 2, my friend told me specifically what heroes to start with. It really helped. So I'm glad you're doing the same!

  • @ucduynguyen9347
    @ucduynguyen9347 3 роки тому +25

    After 1k3h in dota2 I was achieve Immortal medal with only Pos4-5 today.
    Thank you for your great videos.
    I strongly agree about this tierlist, my hero pool from Crushader to Immotal was:
    Lion, Ogre, CM, Lich, Venge, AA, Abadon, Snap for Pos5.
    SB, Lina, SS, Hoodwink for Pos4.
    I think these are great hero for newbie to learn about Dota. Goodluck and have fun!

    • @ingridchen6102
      @ingridchen6102 3 роки тому +2

      Congratulations!!!

    • @1who4me
      @1who4me 3 роки тому +2

      You give me hope sir

    • @ZQuixotix
      @ZQuixotix  3 роки тому +5

      Congrats! Maybe I'll see you in one of my games one day!

  • @dizmal0
    @dizmal0 3 роки тому +17

    Love the support focused content!!

  • @ViviF2P
    @ViviF2P 3 роки тому +5

    It's really helpful bro. There are only few dota 2 youtuber who teach this basic knowledge. Keep it up!

  • @spykydz
    @spykydz Рік тому +2

    I got my first ever win in Dota 2 playing Ancient Apparition cuz of this video - I spent half the game not realizing I had to double-tap my ult, but I still did okay! Thanks for the vid

  • @llyy7194
    @llyy7194 3 роки тому +4

    Great information on playing support. Really in depth, I learned a lot and will try the chars you suggest.

  • @chainsawapple
    @chainsawapple 2 роки тому

    Thank you! I learned so much from this and it’s actually stuff I can apply right away.

  • @brentonford546
    @brentonford546 2 роки тому +3

    Learning the game. Ive been playing league for like 5 years so learning a new moba is refreshing. Thank you cuz i feel like an idiot trying to play this game vs league.

  • @ronaldbsp7023
    @ronaldbsp7023 3 роки тому +9

    Hello I'm new here...Great content man...especially for Ancient support player like me. Keep up the good work man!! gonna climb up now

  • @1who4me
    @1who4me 3 роки тому +8

    Commenting for the algorithm. Great video Z!!

  • @captainahab2019
    @captainahab2019 2 місяці тому

    Love your guides! Thank you for the awesome content ❤

  • @juliantomescu2947
    @juliantomescu2947 3 роки тому +4

    This was awesome great work 👌

  • @monsoon0704
    @monsoon0704 3 роки тому +1

    Very insightful as usual.. great content as usual...

  • @madihamahdhir900
    @madihamahdhir900 3 роки тому

    I'm a returning player, stopped for like 3 years. Came across your channel today after a bad game and i'm so thankful. Thank you for putting your content and sharing valuable info with clueless people like me !

  • @densyo1502
    @densyo1502 Рік тому

    Very helpful. Thank you.
    Subbed.

  • @baylonsconer755
    @baylonsconer755 Рік тому

    just getting into dota after playing league off and on for 11 years, youre videos are very educational - i like the style very much. and youre also funny!

  • @guffelx8935
    @guffelx8935 8 місяців тому

    Great video!!

  • @wavepool4501
    @wavepool4501 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this!

  • @AcidOverseer
    @AcidOverseer 3 роки тому +8

    Not a new player, but sometimes you use terms that might be hard to understand if your a new player. Maybe you should add definition like off-cooldown means use whenever off cooldown. I know its pretty understandable for people who play, but if you new to mobas in general it might go over their head.

    • @ZQuixotix
      @ZQuixotix  3 роки тому +4

      Very true, I'm trying to be aware of terminology I use. It's tough lol. Maybe I can try to edit in definitions when those terms come in

    • @StrategicGamesEtc
      @StrategicGamesEtc Рік тому

      On the flip side, hearing the terms used in context is one of the best ways to learn them.

  • @obliviousutube
    @obliviousutube 2 роки тому +1

    @ZQuixotix you're doing gods work. Keep it up.

  • @cloudwalker679
    @cloudwalker679 2 роки тому

    this is the best channel so far

  • @rtvc-
    @rtvc- 3 роки тому +2

    will you make a tier list for beginner pos 4 heroes too?

  • @carlhiltbrunner5858
    @carlhiltbrunner5858 3 роки тому +9

    Invoker is the other Intelligence hero with the lowest starting intelligence, tied with Ogre at 15.

    • @lucyebrada2950
      @lucyebrada2950 2 роки тому +2

      woah, shocking for me, knowing that Invoker is a very strong Int hero.

    • @What-fv1yl
      @What-fv1yl Рік тому

      Funny how he is a super op mage and stuff and has the Intelligence if an ogre lol

  • @Rina-eg7zw
    @Rina-eg7zw 2 роки тому

    Not a new player, but still really enjoyed the video. I think your vids are great :D

  • @tjanipsy423
    @tjanipsy423 3 роки тому +6

    Thanks for dota training to know your channel. Your content is the part of my journey

    • @ZQuixotix
      @ZQuixotix  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you, good luck on your journey!

    • @tjanipsy423
      @tjanipsy423 3 роки тому

      You're welcome

  • @KarliVaron
    @KarliVaron 2 роки тому

    I always do my best how to be a support player and this helps me a lot especially, I don't have friends who always be there for me to teach me.

  • @masterjack8222
    @masterjack8222 Рік тому

    thanks for doing this. I have 0 hours in Dota, your video are really helping

  • @ahmadzulfikar8025
    @ahmadzulfikar8025 3 роки тому

    it's look like a 10-15 years ago. when i''m starting to play dota and need some guides. for all people new in this game, enjoy this game!

  • @TheBugB
    @TheBugB 2 роки тому

    Tanks man

  • @deadvesu
    @deadvesu 2 роки тому

    ty!

  • @nicolasrevilla1538
    @nicolasrevilla1538 3 роки тому

    Nice one

  • @yetimoves6851
    @yetimoves6851 3 роки тому +4

    I find Abaddon very easy to play. But I am not a new player so I might see things wrong. Personally I prefer maxing Q first and leaving W for later. Just sit behind your carry and spam heal him or harass enemies with Q. Can be simple laning phase for beginners. The carry loves the heal, even if that's the only thing you do.

    • @ZQuixotix
      @ZQuixotix  3 роки тому +3

      I don't play too much Abaddon support, so he might be easier than I remember!

    • @AcidOverseer
      @AcidOverseer 3 роки тому +1

      The dispel mechanic might be confusing when you dont know enemy spells.
      I could see a new player just stand there while teamates are silenced.

  • @DarthissGameplays
    @DarthissGameplays 2 роки тому

    I'd love to see a soft sup top list like this one! :D

    • @ZQuixotix
      @ZQuixotix  2 роки тому +3

      It'll probably be awhile til I make a video like this for 4's, but a quick answer here. Snapfire I think would be good right now. She can be played 4 and 5 and there's several videos about her on this channel. Lion and Shadow Shaman are decent 4's and can also be 5's. Hmmmm I need to think on this a bit more probably, a lot of good 4's have unique challenges for new players. Many can work, but it just depends on what you might like/be good at

    • @DarthissGameplays
      @DarthissGameplays 2 роки тому

      @@ZQuixotix Thanks so much for the reply! I love your content :)

  • @Yusei797
    @Yusei797 3 роки тому

    Do you have a twitch channel?

  • @luster5497
    @luster5497 Рік тому +1

    Didn't know the WitchDoctor had Covid in 2022

  • @tekudiv
    @tekudiv 3 роки тому

    Hey Zach can't find your support guides for these heroes. Can you please rename them and publish? Something like ZQ's Oger support for beginners?

    • @ZQuixotix
      @ZQuixotix  3 роки тому

      I added them to the description of the video. You should be able to click them and subscribe to see them in game. Let me know if that works for you! They're very bare bones though to be honest

  • @emmanuelpoon
    @emmanuelpoon 2 роки тому +1

    Dark Willow i feel is an easy support hero play with

  • @bananabreadguy7960
    @bananabreadguy7960 2 роки тому

    Tech player here.. I would not put techies in the list too lol (even though play them in pos 4 or 5).

  • @dutamulia
    @dutamulia 2 роки тому

    Thank you dude, which country you're from?

    • @ZQuixotix
      @ZQuixotix  2 роки тому +2

      Parents from Singapore, but I grew up in the United States!

    • @dutamulia
      @dutamulia 2 роки тому +1

      @@ZQuixotix Indonesian chinese here. You are so lucky, are you a US citizen now?

  • @ProPlattsyHD
    @ProPlattsyHD 3 роки тому

    How do i find the guides?

    • @ZQuixotix
      @ZQuixotix  3 роки тому +1

      I've added them to the description now. You should be able to subscribe to them through the link and then you'll have an easier time finding them when you open the guides in the Dota 2 client

  • @icata12345
    @icata12345 3 роки тому

    i'm glad he didnt shower CM with praise it's not a hard hero but you need some getting used to and if you fuck it up you will be free gold walkin around for the entire game

  • @abca14045
    @abca14045 2 роки тому +1

    how on earth wd is easier than Cm and lion lol

  • @ehizta6893
    @ehizta6893 9 місяців тому

    no pudge? :^(

  • @loweloking88
    @loweloking88 Рік тому

    Can’t believe he didn’t say Ogre. He’s the easiest support 5 In the game

  • @DACFIL
    @DACFIL 5 місяців тому

    I'm waiting for the phoenix...... and you skip that🗿

  • @michaelchen4317
    @michaelchen4317 3 роки тому

    I only play axe, bh, viper,dp and gyro 5,non of those heros is on the list