Great video. Good advice on buying equipment that I've never considered. I wish I'd watched this before I bought my tractor. One tip for keeping service records... Email yourself logs and thorough information at each service and include pics of receipts and bottles of oil and other parts that will show what you bought and part numbers and such. When the email arrives in the inbox, create a folder named after the piece of equipment and send the emails there. Emails don't get lost and get greasy and wrinkled. People can make up service records on paper but it's hard to fabricate dates and pics in emails when it comes time to sell. You can send the whole folder to the buyer when you sell.
many guys i know that have owned a bobcat for years, say that they are the type of machine thats worth making the small fixes on . as in even if its a beat up 80s machine its still worth fixing any issues because the machine will run good as new if done right. not like a car thats just finished after so long. good video!
I bought a used Mustang skid steer. Medium sized, about the size of the one in video. Paid $1800....came with 3 attachments. Rebuilt the carb, put in new fuel lines, fuel pump. All that cost about $70 or less. Repainted it for $20 with spray cans, looks new. Has been running great for a couple years. I bought a spare engine for real cheap because I thought mine would die. It just keeps on going!
Im no diesel mechanic but from my experience and family experience if you are looking at any truck, tractor or piece or diesel equipment. When you go to look at it before you start it feel if the engine is warm. You want to know how it starts cold not warm. This is also included on new equipment.
Very nice complete review of what to look for when buying a skid steer. I bought an older John Deere skid steer back in 2004 from a private owner and yes, some people do play hide and seek with potential buyers. My skid steer had low hours and was not beat, but it did have a few things wrong with it such as leaky AND or original seals. The old and original seals leaked which resulted in bucket drift. I replaced "both" of the lift cylinder seals by myself so the cost was minimal. Also, my skid steer had original or OLD hydraulic hoses. I did not think that was a big deal until one blew while I was using the machine and hydraulic fluid went all over my driveway. I have since replaced all of the hoses, BUT they are expensive to replace. Also, one of my wheel axle seals started leaking. I too fixed this myself, but it was a PITA to do. If I would have looked closer at the wheel axles (behind the wheels) I would have noticed a lot of caked-on dirt and farm animal waste which gradually caused my one wheel seal to leak. The good here is that I then immediately cleaned the other wheels (and removed the a,lot of crap there too) to eliminate them from leaking. However, the biggest thing that was wrong with my skid steer was one of the tilt cylinders had a small "nick" in the cylinder. Yes, it was small BUT even a small nick will result in a cylinder leak. I took the leaky tilt cylinder into a shop and that cost me about $200. So, you are right, bring a piece of cardboard and really look carefully at everything. Also, hop in the seat and take it out for a full operational test and drive.
I have operated Bobcat equipment my whole life, I have two skidsteers, with both having over 3000 hours. In my experience, Bobcat has always been the best machine. I have had little to no mechanical issues from the machines. Kubota does make an excellent engine!
Bought my first bobcat (07- S185) at 20 years old, had 3,000hrs when I got it has 4,100hrs now. Only issue is I had to replace the alternator. And clean up some wire connections behind the ignition panel.
@@walsh9354 a vice and a plumbers wrench or huge pliers, and a couple sockets you can do it yourself. really easy. Costs under 100 for each seal kit. I bent a shaft, used a hydraulic pipe bender to press it back to straight, and changed my seals i was 100% good again. Saved a ton of money
@@walsh9354 just consider labor is usually 100 bux if your not getting a mobile service charge added on top. Might just take 1 hour if you have it off the machine
You have the filters mixed up, the top one is Hyd and the middle is oil. Also, when you run that machine out of fuel, you have to crack the bleeder valve knob open while you prime the primer bulb, crank it and it will start right up. Once it starts, and cleans the air out, close the valve. It takes maybe 2 min.
Oh yeah, and something cool I do with my buckets. You can weld a tow hook to the top of the bucket, grab you a chain, and you can tow anything you can wrap a chain around. You can also wrap your train around small trees while attached to the hook and pull them up. Make sure you weld it good of course haha.
this is Rich on my wifes site. if your not use to any off road machinery and your looking to buy something or you own one already. it could be a small skid steer to a dump truck. check the rad cooling fins for dirt pluggage. really fine dust plugs the rad fins causing the engine to over heat and if the unit has a history of over heating this will glaze the cyl walls and causing blue smoke from the exhaust because of oil blowby. cure if smoking! engine rebuild,new piston rings and cylinder hone. so clean you rad fins a couple times a yr or even more frequently if in a very dusty environment. Cheers Rich
Nice video. I've been running equipment for awhile and can always use a refresher. Nobody knows it all and refreshing knowledge is always a good thing. Thanks!
Excellent video. Anytime you buy anything with an engine pay attention to the exhaust when you start it up and while it’s running pull the dipstick and open the oil fill cap to see if there is any blow by.
Ok when you mentioned my baby the F-15 I had to chime in...the F-15 is a center-stick design, with hydro-mechanical controls unlike the F-16 and F-22 which are side-stick designs and full fly-by-wire. Thanks for all the good information on buying one of these machines, it's scary buying a used car let alone a used workhorse
Nice job with the video! Covers several major points that a end user should check on a used machine. I agree, service records are a big plus IMO. It shows that the previous owner actually cared for this piece of equipment.
Thanks Josh for this video. We just purchased some vacant land and want to get a used skid steer to use on it. That cardboard tip is great. You also touched items that are essential for a good used purchase. Thanks for sharing.
Great channel and video. I have an older bobcat skidsteer also (743), and love their simplicity, including very few wires, simple fuel system, bulletproof Diesel engines, and old controls that won't break and cost thousands to fix. Most farms seem to have a skidsteer, just a great machine for general work. There are a few really knowledgeable guys on the skidsteer forum that helped me a great deal to fix things, highly recommend...
Very good point about buying from arrogant salesman. Most tractor or machine dealers seem this way. Like they know more about machines and brag about it. Not like buying a car at all. Everyone starts somewhere and not being familiar with tractors and knowing what you want right way is ok.. I remember buying 1st stump grinder was like if you don't want it I have someone coming right after you and price is set.
Maintenance, maintenance is the rule. I made my own record keeping so I can track hours, date, type of filters, type of fluids etc. With different types of equipment, if your going to monitor their use you need to keep track. Good points for video.
Each side of this machine have two sets of drive chains. Lower the arms and roll the bucket forward to lift the front set of tires off the ground. Shut the machine off and walk to the side of the tire that is off the ground and try to roll the tire forward and back. This will show the drive chain tension on that wheel. If you find to much play,or hearthe chains sla the bottom of the case, then the chains will need adjustments or more.
One thing to know is, that no one ever tells you even the owners manual. When working on hill side at 45 Deg. or above you can and I have seen it burn your engine up due to lack of oil from the pickup tube in oil pan drain to much to back or front if you stay on that angle to long. I am old skid steer tech. Not all. will do this depending on brand. with motors setting side ways like bobcat not so much but GEIL and other engine runs front to back set up, can be a problem. Also need to check drive chain slack from frt to rear wheels, to much may need to readjust or replace the chain. AND never get out of skid steer with bucket up, they can fall and well you know. I wish they would install psi stop safety valve like on bucket trucks ect. but they don't . Take care neighbor. Love your vids .
Doing great, I operate heavy equipment for a living. We run nothing but CAT amazing equipment, Over the years I have operated more brands and models than I can remember. Anyways you did awesome, best idea was to borrow your Buddy's so you had a baseline to compare! Great work keep it up.
Josh just a bit of heads up the more electronic parts and gizmos you have the more probs you'll get when its older also i kind of prefer machines with tracks basically you get no flats and its easier to get out if you get stuck. With older machines hydraulics usually leak a bit just keep it topped up and check your seals you can repack them yourself and save a ton of money. Tracked bobcats you have to check the rear sprocket for wear teeth should be square and have lots of meat on them also the track should have lots of rubber replacement is about 1100 $ each grease the moving parts and you're all set. Good luck!
Thanks man...that's what I think too..if it were up to me everything would have a chevy 350 and a muncie 4 speed, no electronics just engine and gears!
One more thing to add is the aux. hydraulics have 2 different ratings depending on the machine (low/std flow) and (high flow) this will play a difference in attachments you add to it
Good Video with some great tips for beginners. I've had my 873 for a couple of years now but wished I'd known more before I bought mine. I've spent thousands repairing issues I found after the fact. By the way, the tires are mounted backwards on your buddy's Bobcat there. LOL I noticed it while watching the video. He may have mounted the wheels on the opposite sides instead of using wheel spacers so he could run some over the tire tracks, but it looks like they just mounted the tires backwards on the rims.
Also, Skid steers come in all shapes and sizes, from radial lift to vertical, from wheels to tracks, electric over hydraulic controls to standard hand and foot likes this 773 (great machine btw) higher horsepower, heavier lift capacity, how high it can lift a load, in cab radios and backup cameras and some newer ones (BobCat Deere and CAT) large lcd screens. These machines are versatile and effective from loading to hauling, digging, breaking, lifting, mulching, mowing lawns, cutting trees down, lifting pallets of material. Skid loaders and Compact track loaders have changed the industry! My personal choice of brand would be New Holland, customer since 96’, but brands are things of preference fortunately there are a myriad of brands ASV, BobCat, CAT, Case, John Deere, Gehl, New Holland and many many more ! While these are all great machines while new, used Skid steers can sometimes be basket cases, some things to watch out far are and whining from the hydraulics, any cracks of the arms, any hesitation and or jittery movements from the bucket and arms, how responsive the machine is in terms of movement and operation of the arms and bucket, always watch out for structural rust such as cylinder pins arms axles arm pillars etc, as well as sloppy arms while in the air (applies to vertical lift machines such as this 773) how they may wiggle side to side, how the cab is wether or not it is fully operational. To sum things up Skid Steers are great ! New and Used, New and Old, Small and Big, Clean and Dirty, they are super tools of ever growing industries! Great Video, loved how you give a “novice” take on how to watch over certain things! Definitely subscribing ! Keep the vids rolling!
I've been looking to get a skid steer, for snow plowing and brush removal, as my property tends to overgrow quite a bit and this video helped me out quite a bit
Hey Josh! I'm caching up on your videos. So I used to use a skid loader similar to this one when I worked on a grounds crew. We also had a larger and wider Bobcat as well. I would also add to drive it on different terrain and drive it with and without a load. The one like this had more of an on road tire and would bounce like crazy! You had to use the seatbelt or it would throw you around!!! But the new one was pure luxury. It had an air ride seat and also did not bounce around at all. The newer one was slower though due to its size, so I preferred the medium one....unless it was hot out, then used the new one since it had AC! Oh yea, the heaters on these are awesome in the winter! Keep up the good farm work and camera work, wooo!
I will just say this, if your going to get an open cab, get one with foot pedals for loader controls. Nothing worse, in the dead of winter not being able to feel your hands and not have dexterity to control hand controls. With the bobcat , you can put big warm gloves on and still operated well. If your getting a cab that is heated, then ya, hand controls you can have some good control with. I ran a bobcat for 6 years at my last job, and it worked well. i got use to a case a few times when we would get a second loader.
yes i used gloves often, just with the hand controls, having big insulated gloves on you could loose some finesse. Where with the foot pedal control i find it easier with out a heated cab and with carharts and gloves and bulky coat on.
I bought my tractor for the exact same reason. My salesman/now buddy at my John Deere dealer in Crocket, TX was friendly, honest, and not only sold me down in size but gave me the perfect tractor for what I wanted to do. He listened to me and using his knowledge got me into what I needed and not what he wanted to sell me. Great service and answers his cell anytime I call.
If you get a machine, get the operators manual. It will tell you the info you need. I have one for every piece of equipment I have. Also wear your seat belt.
I bought a Bobcat 873 that did hard time at a foundry. It bled oil like a stuck pig, hard to start, had one bad axle hub, and the arms were badly fractured from ramming castings out of the molds. So needles to say was badly abused and I picked it up for $1500. Now I'm not made of money, so $45K for a new one is out of the question. Many of the parts to repair the issues were not expensive, it just took time and effort. The main oil leak was from the arm control valve seals that only cost a total of $12, but six hours to install. Rebuilding each cylinder was about $50 and three hours each. The hard to start issue was a $15 glow plug relay and poor glow plug terminations. The bad axle required a $350 shaft repair and $150 used hub. My Bobcat dealer wanted $2800 for a used arm frame, so I removed my arms and fish plated bothsides of both arms. I replaced all inboard and out board wheel bearings, races and seals that can be seen in the link below. So to date I think I have less than $4K in the machine total but I have a fair amount of time invested, and time is money. But I know the condition of my machine, plus I have the invoice history from new. So at this point given the present condition of the machine and my investment in time, I confident I could make money, but I have no desire to sell because I've built a dependable machine. ua-cam.com/video/kjpKDonnXxE/v-deo.html
Thanks for the video. The biggest problem I had when looking for a smallish skid loader was people misrepresenting what they have for sale. Especially on Craigslist. It’s surprising how often someone takes an inferior brand or model, paint it yellow and put Caterpillar stickers on it, or paint it white and put Bobcat stickers on it. The other thing I saw was people selling a desirable model, but when you open the door and look, they have adapted a motor/pump combination from a different (usually smaller) model, and not disclosed that.
As a guy who's owned bobcats for 30 years, the best advice i can give u is grese it every 8 hours at most, and change filters and oil more than necessary. The machine will last a long time
HELLO SIR.. YOU HAVE THE FILTERS MIXED UP.. THE TOP FILTER IS THE HYD FILTER..NEXT ONE IS THE OIL FILTER AND THE LAST ONE IS UR FUEL FILTER.. PLUS ONLY USE SAE 15W40 DIESEL MOTOR OIL.. VERY GOOD TO DATE ALL FILTERS AND EVEN PARTS THAT YOU REPLACE...KEEP ALL FLUIDS TOPPED OFF AND TIRES SET TO SPEC..80PSI.. THE BIGGEST THING OF ALL IS KEEP ALL FITTINGS GREASED.. GREASE EVERY TIME YOU USE THE MACHINE.. RUN CLEAN DIESEL AND LUCAS ADDITIVES ARE GREAT TO USE IN FUEL AND OIL.. HAVE A GOOD TIME LOVE THE FARM SIR...
Sales men lawyers and politicians all fall in same category in my opinion Another thing is to ask to lift the cab and check the underside for leaks and possible issues
The 773 bobcat is a great skid loader, it has 46 hp but it gets the job done, it is also one of the most common bobcats out there but they don’t make it anymore
Great tips! Those things do get a lot of hard hours, they aren't bought for Sunday trips down the lane :) Fresh paint is but shouldn't be a no deal but there is a huge auction company out here that slaps fresh paint on everything they auction. Keep the videos coming please.
Take a look at Nick Miller on UA-cam. He does really great videos on used equipment. Also if it's diesel, make sure there's no blow by in the engine. Also check for welds on the boom.
Something I have don on that type of bob-cat is cut away about 1.25 inches of metal below the latch so as to be able to get at and service the battery with ease.
Very very useful equipment, for big farm like you have, I guess just buy used one, fix a bit here and there will help you recover the cost soon, I believe that. Engine and traction got to be good, hydraulic issues, can do easily. Am I right...?Bobcat is the best known brand, American build....
When I was learning what to look for on a skid steer. I found out that the value of a machine is affected by the hydraulics. The industry average life span is bench marked at 4K hours for the hydraulic pumps,wheel motors,controls and cylinders. Those are the life components of a skid steer. I learned that the best value was to search for a machine in the 2k to 3k hour range to minimize the cost of worn out hydraulic components and get maximum usefulness out of it on the farm without nickel and diming you to death
Be careful when hooking up the aux hydraulics, Bobcat has its own recommended oil and some skidsteers use 10 30 sae oil. Damage could occur if accidently mixed. I never rent attachments as you can not be sure the type of oil that has been used previously.
Hey Josh, great channel keep it up! I think you've got a great attitude toward farming. Great to see the joy you have during the daily grind. I subscribed a few weeks ago and haven't been disappointed. Great to see your farming operation. Love the channel man. God Bless!
Hey man! I noticed in the beginning of the video where you pointed out the types of filters, and you called the oil filter the hydraulic filter, and the hydraulic filter the oil filter. The big orange one is the hydraulic filter up top. the oil filter is the one attached to the engine block. But spot on on the fuel filter. Always remember that the bigger filter goes to the system with the most fluid! Theres much more hydraulic fluid in that machine than there is engine oil! Other than that, great video!
Tracks are better but wheeled carry a better price used. If you buy wheeled and plan on digging and moving round bales, then get a large framed one. Big tires and bigger HP. You have to drive it and if you can't, take someone with you that can. Skid steers are the most abused equipment for sale.
A track loader might be a better choice, the traction is much better and all the same accessories fit. Bobcat is faster and usually has 2 speeds and appears to be a better machine. I have done a lot of research on bobcat, go to their site and browse, couldn't hurt.
RADIATOR FILTER SYSTEM: Now I'm using this web site like a introduction to how they work (I get nothing from them this is for information only) these are available on amazon for car's and truck's and smaller engine's " like a bobcat " I've run with one on my F250 4x4 with a 300 inline 6 for year's and never had a problem with my coolant system "like sludge in the bottom of my radiator" Donaldson Coolant Filtration Overview
Stoney Ridge Farmer I go near that often my ashley plant not far want me to see if I can get the # on the sign? Might be a week or two next time passing it.
No matter how pretty they look on the outside, the real money is in the drive system. The side covers would be nice if they easily opened to reveal the worn chain drives. Man, these get expensive.
marking filters is not a way to judge the condition of the machine it could have had two oil changes in its life and then changed and back hours marked for all you know.Service records can be faked very easily its a nice thing to look at but I never factor in extra value cause of it. Save the cardboard get in to it lift the cab start using your hands to find the leaks. Substantial leaks can and will fill up in the belly pans and not show an external leak. I have learned lessons and now take an independent heavy duty mechanic with me and pay him to pull oil samples on the machine and give it an inspection. Deposits can be given being conditional that the independent inspection and oil analysis come back acceptable to you the buyer Its not cheap but neither is buying a machine with a screwed motor etc. And if the seller does not agree to the inspection process make tracks.
nice vid. thanks. just bought a Kubota L525, L2501, and a BH77 with tiller, and rake, only 44.5 hours. Boy oh Boy, I should of bought this skid steer. Any suggestions.
Actually I appreciated what you said. You nailed the dealership attitude on the head. Perhaps you know why these folks don't put prices on equipment. Maybe I don't want to listen to them at all until I feel it's a fair price? Seems hinky...I'm no fan of hinky
Very true...I've bought hundreds of cars in my day...just to enjoy and sometimes to repair and sell...tractor dealers are their own special breed of person around these parts...cocky..arogent and mysterious and less than knowledgeable about the products they sell....first time I went to kubota and asked "Why should I buy Kubota v/s John Deere...the salesman said....It depends if you like green paint! What the heck kinda answer was that!!
My experience with skid steers are take your time. Dont get in a hurry. Grease every one of your greasing ports and or nipples before you start running it . check all of your fluids . and always know your area . Know whats around you at all times. If ya have people working while your running use hand signals and know what they mean .
Real basic stuff for novices that have never operated the equipment. How to move around, operate the bucket, and general strategies for grading land and spreading gravel or dirt with it. I don't know much about this stuff but I sure do learn a lot from your videos, so whatever you want to do is cool with me! Thanks!
I own 773 machine! First do not start it till you check the hydraulic oil level!!! If it empty and you always assume it is! You will destroy the pump!! Next warm the fluid up before moving it. If it has all bobcat filters then it been maintained well as bobcat filters cost money. Check the pre filter and the filter. If there is a dirty filter something up as the pre filter did not do its job! Did they use bobcat hydraulic oil or no name?? Factory fluids have components like anti foam additives and are engineered for the machine. Lift the cab up and inspect under the cab. Look for leaks. The control valve rebuild is 1k! You did a nice basic video but it needed more. These machines can be expensive to fix! 4K for engine. Hydraulic pump 2k. Hydraulic motor 1k. The k’s can add up!!!$$$$$
Great video. Good advice on buying equipment that I've never considered. I wish I'd watched this before I bought my tractor. One tip for keeping service records... Email yourself logs and thorough information at each service and include pics of receipts and bottles of oil and other parts that will show what you bought and part numbers and such. When the email arrives in the inbox, create a folder named after the piece of equipment and send the emails there. Emails don't get lost and get greasy and wrinkled. People can make up service records on paper but it's hard to fabricate dates and pics in emails when it comes time to sell. You can send the whole folder to the buyer when you sell.
As a 30 year operator, I'd say you've covered pretty much most of my pet peeve's w/ these machines. Nice job on the video.
Good to hear..thanks man!
How many hours do you think is too much to buy
many guys i know that have owned a bobcat for years, say that they are the type of machine thats worth making the small fixes on . as in even if its a beat up 80s machine its still worth fixing any issues because the machine will run good as new if done right. not like a car thats just finished after so long. good video!
I bought a used Mustang skid steer. Medium sized, about the size of the one in video. Paid $1800....came with 3 attachments. Rebuilt the carb, put in new fuel lines, fuel pump. All that cost about $70 or less. Repainted it for $20 with spray cans, looks new. Has been running great for a couple years. I bought a spare engine for real cheap because I thought mine would die. It just keeps on going!
romansten9 real equipment doesn't have carbujators or spark plugs lmao
@@dregenius wrong. Real equipment gets the job done
@@dregenius the old bobcats were gas engines and if u maintan them good they will last u a long time
Where is a good place to look for deals like these?
@@dregenius Find me a so called "real" piece of equipment (skid loader) for $1000 and I'll buy it.
Im no diesel mechanic but from my experience and family experience if you are looking at any truck, tractor or piece or diesel equipment. When you go to look at it before you start it feel if the engine is warm. You want to know how it starts cold not warm. This is also included on new equipment.
Great point buddy
Very nice complete review of what to look for when buying a skid steer. I bought an older John Deere skid steer back in 2004 from a private owner and yes, some people do play hide and seek with potential buyers. My skid steer had low hours and was not beat, but it did have a few things wrong with it such as leaky AND or original seals. The old and original seals leaked which resulted in bucket drift. I replaced "both" of the lift cylinder seals by myself so the cost was minimal. Also, my skid steer had original or OLD hydraulic hoses. I did not think that was a big deal until one blew while I was using the machine and hydraulic fluid went all over my driveway. I have since replaced all of the hoses, BUT they are expensive to replace. Also, one of my wheel axle seals started leaking. I too fixed this myself, but it was a PITA to do. If I would have looked closer at the wheel axles (behind the wheels) I would have noticed a lot of caked-on dirt and farm animal waste which gradually caused my one wheel seal to leak. The good here is that I then immediately cleaned the other wheels (and removed the a,lot of crap there too) to eliminate them from leaking. However, the biggest thing that was wrong with my skid steer was one of the tilt cylinders had a small "nick" in the cylinder. Yes, it was small BUT even a small nick will result in a cylinder leak. I took the leaky tilt cylinder into a shop and that cost me about $200. So, you are right, bring a piece of cardboard and really look carefully at everything. Also, hop in the seat and take it out for a full operational test and drive.
I have operated Bobcat equipment my whole life, I have two skidsteers, with both having over 3000 hours. In my experience, Bobcat has always been the best machine. I have had little to no mechanical issues from the machines. Kubota does make an excellent engine!
The only issue my skidsteer has had. Both hydraulic lift arm seals went bad, and some hydraulic hoses went bad besides that noting that major
Bought my first bobcat (07- S185) at 20 years old, had 3,000hrs when I got it has 4,100hrs now. Only issue is I had to replace the alternator. And clean up some wire connections behind the ignition panel.
Don't tread on me what did that cost you ?
@@walsh9354 a vice and a plumbers wrench or huge pliers, and a couple sockets you can do it yourself. really easy. Costs under 100 for each seal kit. I bent a shaft, used a hydraulic pipe bender to press it back to straight, and changed my seals i was 100% good again. Saved a ton of money
@@walsh9354 just consider labor is usually 100 bux if your not getting a mobile service charge added on top. Might just take 1 hour if you have it off the machine
You have the filters mixed up, the top one is Hyd and the middle is oil. Also, when you run that machine out of fuel, you have to crack the bleeder valve knob open while you prime the primer bulb, crank it and it will start right up. Once it starts, and cleans the air out, close the valve. It takes maybe 2 min.
Man, I seen the filter mix-up, ran outside, flung the door open thinking I been putting the wrong filters on.
Oh yeah, and something cool I do with my buckets. You can weld a tow hook to the top of the bucket, grab you a chain, and you can tow anything you can wrap a chain around. You can also wrap your train around small trees while attached to the hook and pull them up. Make sure you weld it good of course haha.
this is Rich on my wifes site. if your not use to any off road machinery and your looking to buy something or you own one already. it could be a small skid steer to a dump truck. check the rad cooling fins for dirt pluggage. really fine dust plugs the rad fins causing the engine to over heat and if the unit has a history of over heating this will glaze the cyl walls
and causing blue smoke from the exhaust because of oil blowby. cure if smoking! engine rebuild,new piston rings and cylinder hone. so clean you rad fins a couple times a yr or even more frequently if in a very dusty environment. Cheers Rich
Nice video. I've been running equipment for awhile and can always use a refresher. Nobody knows it all and refreshing knowledge is always a good thing. Thanks!
Excellent video. Anytime you buy anything with an engine pay attention to the exhaust when you start it up and while it’s running pull the dipstick and open the oil fill cap to see if there is any blow by.
Ok when you mentioned my baby the F-15 I had to chime in...the F-15 is a center-stick design, with hydro-mechanical controls unlike the F-16 and F-22 which are side-stick designs and full fly-by-wire. Thanks for all the good information on buying one of these machines, it's scary buying a used car let alone a used workhorse
Nice job with the video! Covers several major points that a end user should check on a used machine. I agree, service records are a big plus IMO. It shows that the previous owner actually cared for this piece of equipment.
Thanks Josh for this video. We just purchased some vacant land and want to get a used skid steer to use on it. That cardboard tip is great. You also touched items that are essential for a good used purchase. Thanks for sharing.
Great channel and video. I have an older bobcat skidsteer also (743), and love their simplicity, including very few wires, simple fuel system, bulletproof Diesel engines, and old controls that won't break and cost thousands to fix. Most farms seem to have a skidsteer, just a great machine for general work. There are a few really knowledgeable guys on the skidsteer forum that helped me a great deal to fix things, highly recommend...
Thanks Greg
Very good point about buying from arrogant salesman. Most tractor or machine dealers seem this way. Like they know more about machines and brag about it. Not like buying a car at all. Everyone starts somewhere and not being familiar with tractors and knowing what you want right way is ok..
I remember buying 1st stump grinder was like if you don't want it I have someone coming right after you and price is set.
It's totally different than a car that's for sure...and also in this economy they basically say "if you don't buy it, somebody else will"
Maintenance, maintenance is the rule. I made my own record keeping so I can track hours, date, type of filters, type of fluids etc. With different types of equipment, if your going to monitor their use you need to keep track. Good points for video.
Each side of this machine have two sets of drive chains. Lower the arms and roll the bucket forward to lift the front set of tires off the ground. Shut the machine off and walk to the side of the tire that is off the ground and try to roll the tire forward and back. This will show the drive chain tension on that wheel. If you find to much play,or hearthe chains sla the bottom of the case, then the chains will need adjustments or more.
One thing to know is, that no one ever tells you even the owners manual. When working on hill side at 45 Deg. or above you can and I have seen it burn your engine up due to lack of oil from the pickup tube in oil pan drain to much to back or front if you stay on that angle to long. I am old skid steer tech. Not all. will do this depending on brand. with motors setting side ways like bobcat not so much but GEIL and other engine runs front to back set up, can be a problem. Also need to check drive chain slack from frt to rear wheels, to much may need to readjust or replace the chain. AND never get out of skid steer with bucket up, they can fall and well you know. I wish they would install psi stop safety valve like on bucket trucks ect. but they don't . Take care neighbor. Love your vids .
Thanks man...great tips!
Thanks for the Video. Been using them for years all different types. Learned a lot.
Yes sir!
Doing great, I operate heavy equipment for a living. We run nothing but CAT amazing equipment, Over the years I have operated more brands and models than I can remember. Anyways you did awesome, best idea was to borrow your Buddy's so you had a baseline to compare! Great work keep it up.
Heard lots of great things about CAT...nice of my friend to let me use his machine for sure!
Josh just a bit of heads up the more electronic parts and gizmos you have the more probs you'll get when its older also i kind of prefer machines with tracks basically you get no flats and its easier to get out if you get stuck. With older machines hydraulics usually leak a bit just keep it topped up and check your seals you can repack them yourself and save a ton of money. Tracked bobcats you have to check the rear sprocket for wear teeth should be square and have lots of meat on them also the track should have lots of rubber replacement is about 1100 $ each grease the moving parts and you're all set. Good luck!
Thanks man...that's what I think too..if it were up to me everything would have a chevy 350 and a muncie 4 speed, no electronics just engine and gears!
One more thing to add is the aux. hydraulics have 2 different ratings depending on the machine (low/std flow) and (high flow) this will play a difference in attachments you add to it
Thanks man! Good info to know
Does the pump just have to be “High Flow” ? Or do
other components as well have to be rated for a
“High Flow” system?
Good Video with some great tips for beginners. I've had my 873 for a couple of years now but wished I'd known more before I bought mine. I've spent thousands repairing issues I found after the fact. By the way, the tires are mounted backwards on your buddy's Bobcat there. LOL I noticed it while watching the video. He may have mounted the wheels on the opposite sides instead of using wheel spacers so he could run some over the tire tracks, but it looks like they just mounted the tires backwards on the rims.
Also, Skid steers come in all shapes and sizes, from radial lift to vertical, from wheels to tracks, electric over hydraulic controls to standard hand and foot likes this 773 (great machine btw) higher horsepower, heavier lift capacity, how high it can lift a load, in cab radios and backup cameras and some newer ones (BobCat Deere and CAT) large lcd screens. These machines are versatile and effective from loading to hauling, digging, breaking, lifting, mulching, mowing lawns, cutting trees down, lifting pallets of material. Skid loaders and Compact track loaders have changed the industry! My personal choice of brand would be New Holland, customer since 96’, but brands are things of preference fortunately there are a myriad of brands ASV, BobCat, CAT, Case, John Deere, Gehl, New Holland and many many more ! While these are all great machines while new, used Skid steers can sometimes be basket cases, some things to watch out far are and whining from the hydraulics, any cracks of the arms, any hesitation and or jittery movements from the bucket and arms, how responsive the machine is in terms of movement and operation of the arms and bucket, always watch out for structural rust such as cylinder pins arms axles arm pillars etc, as well as sloppy arms while in the air (applies to vertical lift machines such as this 773) how they may wiggle side to side, how the cab is wether or not it is fully operational. To sum things up Skid Steers are great ! New and Used, New and Old, Small and Big, Clean and Dirty, they are super tools of ever growing industries! Great Video, loved how you give a “novice” take on how to watch over certain things! Definitely subscribing ! Keep the vids rolling!
I've been looking to get a skid steer, for snow plowing and brush removal, as my property tends to overgrow quite a bit and this video helped me out quite a bit
Hey Josh! I'm caching up on your videos. So I used to use a skid loader similar to this one when I worked on a grounds crew. We also had a larger and wider Bobcat as well. I would also add to drive it on different terrain and drive it with and without a load. The one like this had more of an on road tire and would bounce like crazy! You had to use the seatbelt or it would throw you around!!! But the new one was pure luxury. It had an air ride seat and also did not bounce around at all. The newer one was slower though due to its size, so I preferred the medium one....unless it was hot out, then used the new one since it had AC! Oh yea, the heaters on these are awesome in the winter! Keep up the good farm work and camera work, wooo!
I will just say this, if your going to get an open cab, get one with foot pedals for loader controls. Nothing worse, in the dead of winter not being able to feel your hands and not have dexterity to control hand controls. With the bobcat , you can put big warm gloves on and still operated well. If your getting a cab that is heated, then ya, hand controls you can have some good control with. I ran a bobcat for 6 years at my last job, and it worked well. i got use to a case a few times when we would get a second loader.
Good point ! Thanks!
Don't they sell gloves where you live?
yes i used gloves often, just with the hand controls, having big insulated gloves on you could loose some finesse. Where with the foot pedal control i find it easier with out a heated cab and with carharts and gloves and bulky coat on.
You know exactly what you doing you're doing a good job
Thanks again for the awesome videos and help!!!
Thanks Marc!
Thanks in a million. Great content. Awesome. Grade: A++💥
Looking to get a skiddy myself. Very helpful video
I bought my tractor for the exact same reason. My salesman/now buddy at my John Deere dealer in Crocket, TX was friendly, honest, and not only sold me down in size but gave me the perfect tractor for what I wanted to do. He listened to me and using his knowledge got me into what I needed and not what he wanted to sell me. Great service and answers his cell anytime I call.
Good stuff buying equipment lots to think about!!
Yes sir there are way more things than I touched on in this video for sure
If you get a machine, get the operators manual. It will tell you the info you need. I have one for every piece of equipment I have. Also wear your seat belt.
I bought a Bobcat 873 that did hard time at a foundry. It bled oil like a stuck pig, hard to start, had one bad axle hub, and the arms were badly fractured from ramming castings out of the molds. So needles to say was badly abused and I picked it up for $1500. Now I'm not made of money, so $45K for a new one is out of the question. Many of the parts to repair the issues were not expensive, it just took time and effort. The main oil leak was from the arm control valve seals that only cost a total of $12, but six hours to install. Rebuilding each cylinder was about $50 and three hours each. The hard to start issue was a $15 glow plug relay and poor glow plug terminations. The bad axle required a $350 shaft repair and $150 used hub. My Bobcat dealer wanted $2800 for a used arm frame, so I removed my arms and fish plated bothsides of both arms. I replaced all inboard and out board wheel bearings, races and seals that can be seen in the link below. So to date I think I have less than $4K in the machine total but I have a fair amount of time invested, and time is money. But I know the condition of my machine, plus I have the invoice history from new. So at this point given the present condition of the machine and my investment in time, I confident I could make money, but I have no desire to sell because I've built a dependable machine.
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Thanks for the video. The biggest problem I had when looking for a smallish skid loader was people misrepresenting what they have for sale. Especially on Craigslist. It’s surprising how often someone takes an inferior brand or model, paint it yellow and put Caterpillar stickers on it, or paint it white and put Bobcat stickers on it. The other thing I saw was people selling a desirable model, but when you open the door and look, they have adapted a motor/pump combination from a different (usually smaller) model, and not disclosed that.
I like videos like this. It helps me when I look for used tractors. Like all your videos keep it up.
Yes sir...thanks for watching I appreciate you buddy
i love these machines we should be able to just drive them to shop an that when your bored lmao
lol....bored...never happen here bhahhahaha
As a guy who's owned bobcats for 30 years, the best advice i can give u is grese it every 8 hours at most, and change filters and oil more than necessary. The machine will last a long time
Thanks for the advice Matt
Matt I’m thinking about investing in a Bobcat for making some money. Advice? Attachments? Anything you can advise for help?
HELLO SIR.. YOU HAVE THE FILTERS MIXED UP.. THE TOP FILTER IS THE HYD FILTER..NEXT ONE IS THE OIL FILTER AND THE LAST ONE IS UR FUEL FILTER.. PLUS ONLY USE SAE 15W40 DIESEL MOTOR OIL.. VERY GOOD TO DATE ALL FILTERS AND EVEN PARTS THAT YOU REPLACE...KEEP ALL FLUIDS TOPPED OFF AND TIRES SET TO SPEC..80PSI.. THE BIGGEST THING OF ALL IS KEEP ALL FITTINGS GREASED.. GREASE EVERY TIME YOU USE THE MACHINE.. RUN CLEAN DIESEL AND LUCAS ADDITIVES ARE GREAT TO USE IN FUEL AND OIL.. HAVE A GOOD TIME LOVE THE FARM SIR...
Sales men lawyers and politicians all fall in same category in my opinion
Another thing is to ask to lift the cab and check the underside for leaks and possible issues
The 773 bobcat is a great skid loader, it has 46 hp but it gets the job done, it is also one of the most common bobcats out there but they don’t make it anymore
The turbo model is 56 HP
That magpul shirt got a sub.
Great tips! Those things do get a lot of hard hours, they aren't bought for Sunday trips down the lane :) Fresh paint is but shouldn't be a no deal but there is a huge auction company out here that slaps fresh paint on everything they auction. Keep the videos coming please.
Thanks buddy! I'll keep rolling them out!
Take a look at Nick Miller on UA-cam. He does really great videos on used equipment. Also if it's diesel, make sure there's no blow by in the engine. Also check for welds on the boom.
Good points thanks man
Love2boat92 welds on the arms aren't a issue as long as they didn't do a bad job on the weld
And if it's not diesel, don't even bother buying it. Gassers just don't last and they guzzle fuel during their short lives anyway lol
Something I have don on that type of bob-cat is cut away about 1.25 inches of metal below the latch so as to be able to get at and service the battery with ease.
Great video me and a few of my fellow ffa members and friends really enjoy your videos keep up the good work!
Right on! COW VIDEO COMING SOON!! PLANNING FOR FENCES ON THE FARM
The good news is that my old John Deere is now running great.
Very very useful equipment, for big farm like you have, I guess just buy used one, fix a bit here and there will help you recover the cost soon, I believe that. Engine and traction got to be good, hydraulic issues, can do easily. Am I right...?Bobcat is the best known brand, American build....
When I was learning what to look for on a skid steer. I found out that the value of a machine is affected by the hydraulics. The industry average life span is bench marked at 4K hours for the hydraulic pumps,wheel motors,controls and cylinders. Those are the life components of a skid steer. I learned that the best value was to search for a machine in the 2k to 3k hour range to minimize the cost of worn out hydraulic components and get maximum usefulness out of it on the farm without nickel and diming you to death
Right on thanks for that piece of info buddy
Be careful when hooking up the aux hydraulics, Bobcat has its own recommended oil and some skidsteers use 10 30 sae oil. Damage could occur if accidently mixed. I never rent attachments as you can not be sure the type of oil that has been used previously.
Yep it's a 10w30 machine
Hey Josh, great channel keep it up! I think you've got a great attitude toward farming. Great to see the joy you have during the daily grind. I subscribed a few weeks ago and haven't been disappointed. Great to see your farming operation. Love the channel man. God Bless!
Yes sir...thanks for the great comment too!
Hey man! I noticed in the beginning of the video where you pointed out the types of filters, and you called the oil filter the hydraulic filter, and the hydraulic filter the oil filter. The big orange one is the hydraulic filter up top. the oil filter is the one attached to the engine block. But spot on on the fuel filter. Always remember that the bigger filter goes to the system with the most fluid! Theres much more hydraulic fluid in that machine than there is engine oil! Other than that, great video!
Thanks man....I misspoke there...trying to get that job done before gravel guy showed up...see what happens when u get in a hurry! Thanks again buddy
Thanks for another Freat Video. Enjoying the ride.
Thanks Butch
Tracks are better but wheeled carry a better price used. If you buy wheeled and plan on digging and moving round bales, then get a large framed one. Big tires and bigger HP. You have to drive it and if you can't, take someone with you that can. Skid steers are the most abused equipment for sale.
A track loader might be a better choice, the traction is much better and all the same accessories fit. Bobcat is faster and usually has 2 speeds and appears to be a better machine. I have done a lot of research on bobcat, go to their site and browse, couldn't hurt.
I agree...very tipsy on wheels and uneven ground
RADIATOR FILTER SYSTEM:
Now I'm using this web site like a introduction to how they work (I get nothing from them this is for information only) these are available on amazon for car's and truck's and smaller engine's " like a bobcat " I've run with one on my F250 4x4 with a 300 inline 6 for year's and never had a problem with my coolant system "like sludge in the bottom of my radiator"
Donaldson Coolant Filtration Overview
They make great attachments for it. There a place that builds them on us 52 in Lexington nc before I 85 it’s on north side. Check them out.
Is that "Everything Attachments"?
Stoney Ridge Farmer think it’s Myers tools and they have several different things for sale you can see from 52.
Stoney Ridge Farmer I go near that often my ashley plant not far want me to see if I can get the # on the sign? Might be a week or two next time passing it.
great video,I can't wait for the next one.
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You could have bought 2 or 3 mail order brides to do the work for half the price
Yea...but they dont come with a tooth bucket..right?
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer they May or may not have teeth. You never kmow.
I love the content you got a new subscriber
looks like a tight squeeze in the for the big boys.
great vid looked at that T shirt and thought to myself Demonetize!
LOL...seems the whole world is against firearms right now
Good work
Good vid man many thanks
You also want to check the bucket for crackes and how bad is the cutting egg
Nice job, good to know. Thanks for sharing.
A Tracked Skid-Steer is much safer than a rubber-tired one. Rubber-tires are good for pretty much flat-ground and that's about it.
Agreed
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Most all diesels use 15W40
No matter how pretty they look on the outside, the real money is in the drive system. The side covers would be nice if they easily opened to reveal the worn chain drives. Man, these get expensive.
marking filters is not a way to judge the condition of the machine it could have had two oil changes in its life and then changed and back hours marked for all you know.Service records can be faked very easily its a nice thing to look at but I never factor in extra value cause of it. Save the cardboard get in to it lift the cab start using your hands to find the leaks.
Substantial leaks can and will fill up in the belly pans and not show an external leak. I have learned lessons and now take an independent heavy duty mechanic with me and pay him to pull oil samples on the machine and give it an inspection.
Deposits can be given being conditional that the independent inspection and oil analysis come back acceptable to you the buyer
Its not cheap but neither is buying a machine with a screwed motor etc.
And if the seller does not agree to the inspection process make tracks.
I would suggest putting the date on the filter
I use a composition notebook for every piece of equipment I have. If there is any question as to what
I did or when I did it, it's all in the book.
The tires are on backwards. But great review.
So true about tractor dealer arrogance.. you buy a 30-40k+ machine “if u can’t come down on $ can u install a radio?” If no go somewhere else!
nice vid. thanks. just bought a Kubota L525, L2501, and a BH77 with tiller, and rake, only 44.5 hours. Boy oh Boy, I should of bought this skid steer. Any suggestions.
I just started watching this channel but you have the hydraulic filter and oil filter are switched but do like the channel
Yep was in a hurry running my mouth..trying to make a vid...accomplish a task and beat the gravel truck! GRRR too much going on at once!
Stoney Ridge Farmer I understand mistakes happen
More good stuff.
Thanks Stoney for the intro. !
Actually I appreciated what you said. You nailed the dealership attitude on the head. Perhaps you know why these folks don't put prices on equipment. Maybe I don't want to listen to them at all until I feel it's a fair price? Seems hinky...I'm no fan of hinky
Very true...I've bought hundreds of cars in my day...just to enjoy and sometimes to repair and sell...tractor dealers are their own special breed of person around these parts...cocky..arogent and mysterious and less than knowledgeable about the products they sell....first time I went to kubota and asked "Why should I buy Kubota v/s John Deere...the salesman said....It depends if you like green paint! What the heck kinda answer was that!!
My experience with skid steers are take your time. Dont get in a hurry. Grease every one of your greasing ports and or nipples before you start running it . check all of your fluids . and always know your area . Know whats around you at all times. If ya have people working while your running use hand signals and know what they mean .
Agreed
........and be sure to let your 3 and 5 year old kids out of the house so they can get run over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DUHHHH????
Good evening brother
How do i know if the skid steer ha original motor
Right on about tractor dealers arrogance. Knuckleheads. Dealer I bought mine from wasn’t arrogant. He got my bidness.
skid steers are great for removing dead horses out of barn stalls.
Why are your tires backwards ?
You got your operator card son.
Awesome video
Thanks
Hehe, best piece of equipment on our farm , my favorite to operate :-)
+Stac Homestead you are absolutely right
I use bobcats all the time at work is that a pedel controls for the bucket and loader
Could you do a video on operation/techniques with the skid steer?
Let me think on that...what specifically are ya looking to know?
Real basic stuff for novices that have never operated the equipment. How to move around, operate the bucket, and general strategies for grading land and spreading gravel or dirt with it. I don't know much about this stuff but I sure do learn a lot from your videos, so whatever you want to do is cool with me! Thanks!
Buy one and practice with it. It's the ONLY way to learn. What we do might mot work for you.
I own 773 machine! First do not start it till you check the hydraulic oil level!!! If it empty and you always assume it is! You will destroy the pump!!
Next warm the fluid up before moving it. If it has all bobcat filters then it been maintained well as bobcat filters cost money. Check the pre filter and the filter. If there is a dirty filter something up as the pre filter did not do its job! Did they use bobcat hydraulic oil or no name?? Factory fluids have components like anti foam additives and are engineered for the machine. Lift the cab up and inspect under the cab. Look for leaks. The control valve rebuild is 1k! You did a nice basic video but it needed more. These machines can be expensive to fix! 4K for engine. Hydraulic pump 2k. Hydraulic motor 1k. The k’s can add up!!!$$$$$
Also Josh...are the tires on the wrong direction?
Subscribed!
Hey brother
What is a ball park budget to put aside for maintenance on a used loader?