Dave, Thanks so much, I have just purchased two HK Orange receivers and I put one in a Stryker and removed the AR500 that was in there to use in my Super Sportster EP that I am currently building and this video helped to let me know that I made the right choice in switching them. I have flown the Stryker several flights now with the Orange HK Rx with no problems, but still trust AR500's range a little better for a balsa plane and you confirmed my gut feeling.
This was a godsent! Thank you for this review of the receivers range, I just got me two of those HK and was aprenhensive to use them cause the range issues. Great video Mr Herbert!
Watched a lot of your videos over the years Dave, you never fail to deliver either a entertaining time, or some damn good info, never. Thanks a billion, and take care of yourself old timer. -Mike.
Great job Dave, I was planning on purchasing a few of the orange Rx myself and now with your information I think I will try a few of them myself and you can be assured that I will test then to make sure they will be safe to fly! Thank you for your videos, they are always fun and educational!! 2 THUMBS UP! jb
hi Dave, great job testing both RX's, thx for this ! I have 3 HK orange RX but recently bought HK orange satellites too. Maidened my PZ P51D a couple of weeks ago (3 Flightmax HK lipo batteries 11.1 V 3s 1300 maH 20C and 2 Rhino 1350 maH 25 C used in 5 succesfull consecutive flights) with orange RX and satellite and it worked perfectly. Range was no problem and could fly as far as I can see and feel comfortable with, yesterday I did another 3 flights and all is fine. So far so good ! lol
Great video! I wonder if Hobby King is following the trajectory outlined in "The Inventors Dilemma", where companies start out with low-end or lower-quality products, and then move up the food chain. I love those Kraft servos! I hope you keep adding some of this interesting historical context to your videos, it's so interesting to those of us new to the field!
Basically confirms my own tests and experience with the Orange RX's. Doesn't mean that I won't use them, but I only install them in foamies and I keep them close! Thank you for an informative video!
Thank you for this informational vid, Dave. THe comparison was an eye opener. I thought all Orange RXs were made equal. I use them on my scratch-built foamies and my clone 450 heli; on my scratch-built AP, I use the Spektrum RX. Make more of these vids, Dave. You are definitely doing great with your contributions to the hobby!
Another great video Dave. I know your pain with the Hobby King and damaged goods that are DOA. I recently bought (3) of the HK Spektrum AR6110 knockoffs. All (3) of them work, but will not hold a bind. HK says I have to pay to send them back. Like you said, not worth the return shipping. I have also noted, they are no longer selling them at this time! Have fun my friend ~ James
I really injoyed this one! and even tough the range is worse, i thinnk im getting few of those RX's for my DX7 i think the range is, especially for foamies and stuff like that, MORE than enough! great job dude!
Good video as always and great to finally see someone do a ground range test with these receivers. But I'd say the actual flying range should be about 1,5 times the range on the ground or so, right? The difference between both transmitters on the other hand is surprising.
You keep mentioning that "you could never fly this far away" but people who fly FPV can go that far and much further. So, this is a very valuable test for them as well. Thanks Dave!
WOW ! Thanks so much i am going to do some equill test simply because now im hearing the anntene must be a perfect length for the best reception and so on with seeing your testing i am thinking i have about twenty orange receivers and they are all the same but now i dont think they are all equill! we have lost controll before but wrote it off to other stuff now i know i need to look again! i was about to put up some brand new planes for fpv and im glad i know a test to run.
I have lost a total of 4 planes to Lock out on AR500's and AR6110E'S. I am selling off all of my spektrum receivers and replacing them with the Orange with UBEC's. No issues with the Orange at all! And for $8 its a pure no brainer... thanx for the vid though! Good info!
well i appreciate your test results , i noticed the orange recievers were not the full range , where as the spektrum was,. thay do have full range orange rx.s with two ;long grey antennae , and i have had no problems with the full range. yes i did have issues with the orange rx.s with the one little short red antennae thank you , please try your experiment with orange full range , would love to see the results. and fyi, i recently have had issues with my new DX8 FAILING RANGE TEST, horizon hobby stated nothing wrong, crashed two planes , could pace off only about 23-25 paces during range test,. not sure what to think. thank you marty
When building a EXI 450, I had to remove my Spectrum AR6110 because in declining battery charge the motor would cut out on me. I erplaced it with one of the HK orange rx's and have had no problems since. I give them a thumbs up for being 80% cheaper and having good performance. Of course I can't fly my 450 near as far as an Airplane anyway.
Unlike the others the numbers arent my main concern, that was answered with the driving test, those I would love to see more of. I have switched my whole fleet over to the orange rx with satilites and now have a box full of unused paperweight spektrum recievers. Very Very good review. But like other mentioned why did you not road test the Speks?
Unless I'm mistaken, the Orange Rx you show is clearly marked as a Park receiver, not full range. I've flown 6 of these Orange park receivers in a number of planes at our field, flying as far as my eyesight allows and never had a glitch. Spektrum is also made in China but hopefully with better quality control, components and design. I also flew with Kraft equipment in the (distant) past. Lost one plane when the wire wound elevator stick pot failed (the wiper wore through the wire and it opened up) so they weren't bullet proof. Servos were good, though, but quite large and heavy. I've had reasonable luck with Hobby King products but also got one inoperative servo and a receiver that wouldn't hold it's bind.
That is not a park receiver. I had 12 of them before my big fire destroyed everything. They all worked fine. The park Orange receivers are called Orange Lites. I used to work at Kraft RC systems. We used only military grade A pots, so am surprise to hear that. Thanks.
The Orange receivers I mentioned say ORANGE Rx, DSM2 and Park Receiver in very small letters. The antennas are short, 1" wires poking out of the case at right angles. What you show in the video may be a different Rx as it's not clear although it looks like the ones I've used. Yes, Kraft was good stuff with good customer service. I mailed Kraft about the wire wound stick pot and they sent a replacement with a carbon element. I assumed I wasn't the only one who had a wire wound pot fail.
This WAS full range. In no place does it say it is a Park Receiver. It can be read easily at :23 It was the first of the Orange Receiver line in 2011 and were advertised as full range long before they came out with the second versions of Orange receivers with 2 antennae I would never use a park receiver in any of my planes. Thanks again.
Are you still a teacher at a school? If so, what do you teach? I enjoy and look forward to your well thought out informational RC videos. I thank you for your time, Max.
thanks dave i am into helis and i fly very widein the field many of my mates keep saying ,dont lose range now but you have just proved theres plenty i have walked the lengh of the fields and alls ok but this vids helps many thanks grant new zealand
Very Informative Dave! Quick Question, Whats the main difference between the 2 Dx6i's? Other than of course your green and red lights! LOL. Just curious. I dont use Dx6i, but I have many new pilots Im training and they have DX6i's. I only have issue with what batteries they use and what voltage is left in the Tx. Thanks DAVE!
Great video Dave, very informative. I was wondering about the orange rx's as I run futaba and just bought a couple orange rx but havent had the time to range test. I do have one question though Why is the orange rx 1056 at 20 ft and only 793 at 15 ft? when the specturm is 1056 at 15 ft? Isn't range "Range" so to speak? or did I miss something? I did watch this video 3 or 4 times LOL any how Great test. -OTTO-
Your opinion friend.I have flown Spektrum from its initial release useing a Dx6, original Dx7, Dx7s and theDx 8 and not one singel problem ever. I have however lost three planes useing Orange Rx and had two band new ones that would not work from the time I recieved them. I would never trust anything but park flyers to an Orange Rx.
Dave, Great job. Problem, Antenna wires are very sensitive to positioning. Therefore if you did not keep wires exact per each test the test is not valid...
Great stuff.Very informative as always.Thanks for posting. I have a problem too. I ordered some Dynam motor combos.The first two were bad .They sent me 2 to replace them.They do the same.Have you ever had this problem with an electric motor? When I give full power from idle,the motors just vibrate and an alarm ring goes on? If I give power slow it will not vibrate .props are balanced.The shafts are new?Any suggestions?Thanks for any help. It seems like a cheap toy car wheel with lots of play.
Thank you so very much. I'm completely new to RC Planes but not to RC hobby. I have been wondering if the Oranges are worth the money. I am only scratch building but still, Don't want to crash. Are there other spektrum compatibles?
An excellent test criteria except you didn't test multiple Spektrum receivers. At this time we have an equal number of HK and Spektrum receivers in planes flying at our field. I have witnessed planes crashing unexpectedly over the past few months. None of them were flying with the HK receivers. I don't know if the receivers were the reason for the crashes. I would like to see the results from more samples from both manufactuers. Would you test a sampling of receivers that I sent you? Jim
Hey Dave, have you heard that the orange rx apparently have a second antenna pad that can be used to attach a longer antenna. Seems like it would level the playing field a bit since the Spektrum RX has 2 long antennas. I'm also curious about the orange satellite rx and how they improve performance.
Hi I found this video really interesting having just bought a load of Orange Rx's for testing. Do you know who makes the Orange receiver. I got mine from HK - havent done any range checks yet. I know HK sell them and so do others? so where so they come from re manufacture. Had the same issues with the servos. Thanks for the video. Interesting. Servoboy
@sparky0308 I think reliability should be a better argument than range, especially when even 792 feet is a pretty good distance for most airplanes. I tend to fly 2m span planes not much further away than about 200 meters which is approx. 650 feet. Receivers will be more reliable when they have double the range though and Spektrum can't quite deal that well with interference from what I've experienced.
Hi Dave, Great info. I have an orange rx but I also have the sattelite rx for it too. I've had a Kinetic 800 up to 280 meters. Just curious... Did you do any testing with the sattelite rx connected as it looks like your tests were done without it. Thanks, Andrew
@Mrinfoone on your receiver when you look at the bind port there should be a positive/negative symbol... Out of the three wires the orange one will need to be on the positive side... Way I remember it is orange always faces the bulkier bit of the receiver... You will not harm your receiver or servos by plugging them inter wrong way... Hope I helped!
Awesome rc shark at the end! And great video! Thanks 4 sharing. Ps. Check out what I recorded from my Radien, apparently humans aren't the only ones flying at rc parks anymore.
@flyingchimp99 It takes power from the lipo and takes the volatage down to a safe voltage to power the rx and servos. Most esc has them built in but you can use an external one for saftey
Something strange going on: if you normalize the data by taking the ratio of actual range per foot of Turkey Baster range (i.e. take the actual range stated that was based on the car calibration and divide by the Turkey Baster range test) the Red Tx comes out first with 100 ft actual per foot of Turkey, second is the Orange1 at 80, and then all the rest are 52 to 55. So it is hard to say which combo is more reliable. Using the Turkey Baster. Take away seems to be to "test your installation".
I have to echo what unplugged wrote. It's not only a matter of polarization of the antennas. Radiation patterns of antennas can be dramatically and significantly changed by the things around it. Just sticking them both in a turkey roaster is not good enough. Were the antennas of both receivers perfectly straight and in the same orientation with regard to the transmitter? Were both receivers in exactly the same position inside the roasting pan? These factors can totally change the pattern.
Very clever, educational and fun. I need help on how to set up my DX 61 , receiver, and 4 servos...rudder, elevator and 2 on the wing. Can I use the wing ones for faster turns and to go up and down.
I have the dx6i and i used the hobbyking orange rx for a few weeks and had no problems with them. Until........ I lost connection with my skyfun at less than 200 feet. I picked up the plane and the light was blinking on the rx showing a brownout due to low power. I had never had this happen with the exact same setup before. Since then all of the 10 orange rx that i bought would brownout and lose connection. Its interesting that you said your two radios had different ranges.
@NightFlyyer i know is very hard too see a plane but if you do fpv is when it comes handy i was thinking on the 2400 foot range on the transmitter , thats why the 1 000 f felt like too short to me thanks awsome videos i hopefully will buy my first plane next week , i took a look at the airfield sky trainer (cessna ) that nitroplanes has for $ 169 i think is a good deal
Awesome Video...! I just bought 2 orange receivers (6 channel without the heat shrink) from Hobby King and neither would bind with my DX6i... On one, it appeared to bind but when I disconnected it does nothing. The 2nd one appeared to bind once or twice then stop the flashing led stopped all together. It just heats up when try to bind now. Very disappointed. After this video, I might try an orange receiver but wont get my hopes up...
How do you normally have your transmitter antenna pointed when flying ? It is not clear from your range testing on the road whether the transmitter is pointing along the road and, if so, whether it is straight out or tilted up. I read somewhere that the range was better if the transmitter antenna was at right angles to the model. Perhaps you could test that using your method. Another factor should be how the receiver antennae are in relation to the transmitter so that needs testing too.
If that is your sticker on the back window of the van then Welcome home brother. I have a similar sticker on the bumper of my car. 66-67 outside Qui Nhon
@dietcoke1996 i concur. you are very informative, your videos are practical, and we, the hobbyists need somebody who can say "alright, heres the right way to do it and how we did it back in the day" in my opinion you are a good role model for kids like me who are in the hobby. thanks.
The orange receivers are not like the AR500 so it's not really a good comparison .I believe those orange receivers are not full range until you add the satellite receivers, they are more like the Spektrum AR6200 without the satellite receivers.
I would only use these receivers on cheap foamies. I like the price but I would not risk them in bigger planes. I have had great luck with Hobby King servos and I have had a ton of problems with the HS-55 servos.
great video mr. herbert,, its too bad the quality of stuff these days isnt like what it used to be. I never knew that you could use a pot to test range....but i guess you learn something new everyday, anyways nice job! -Ramis182
good vid thanks for all the work only way to do it. I have 3 orange r615x with the 2 little aerials not had them long and nowhere on the case or manual does it say 'park flyer' or not full range so you would take it for granted that it was full range but on testing it obviously isn't. l tested one of mine today put the tx in the car butted up against the windscreen switched on and managed to walk exactly 470 paces away before the red flashing lost contact light came on. not exactly 470 yards but would say 400 yards give or take l took pretty long strides. So that's 1200 feet not bad l slope and never really go anywhere near that distance so long ir short range is academic to me these orange rx will serve my purpose. By the way on your video l hear a audible beeping when you drive out of range ? l don't get that and lm using the same gear ..can you tell me why ? mines in DSMX Mode Thanks great info
The satellites add a lot more range to these. I know that it should only add diversity, but I checked mine with and without, and could actually get 30-35 paces away with the satellite connected vs. only about 15 without
you may have misinterpreted this. I learned from watching this that although orange recievers aren't as good as genuine spektrums, they work well enough that it doesnt matter...
the ar500 is a full range receiver,and the orange ones are classed as short range parkflyers are they not.unless you put the extra satellite receiver to it then its full range.
To all the commenters, just my two cents...... I have a bunch of orange RX and I have a few that give over 60 paces on the range test, while others barely go 25 paces. All have alt $12.00 plug in receiver. Most of the guys that have spectrum TX at my field use orange RX. Never had a problem with them, but HAVE had a few problems with Specktrum brand RX. I fly some of my 20 and 30 cc gas with orange RX, but I don't fly real far away. To each his own I quests. Always range test your set ups.
i just got a fpv setup from hk so with my dx6i am i only going to be able to fly like 1000 ft b4 i lose signal or is there a signal booster i can get for my tx, thanks
sometimes when you expose a circut board like the one inside a transmitter it will stop working or some parts will stop working its happened to me before so maybe that happened to the bad transmitter
Well my Orange receivers have never given me any trouble(as opposed to original Spectrums)and they are used in planes from 1 to 2,5m wingspan to the point where my old eyes can`t see what`s up or down.On the other hand I`ve had crashes with the original AR61`s where I nearly hit myself.Gotta admit I`m having serious doubts about bying Spectrum-how many satelites are they upto now-is it 4 or 6 on the "ultra royal"? And of course my DX8 spends more time in Germany than at the field with me!
and your are allowed to have your opinion i am just saying i have over 20+ planes and everyone has a orange receiver in it not one has had a problem i have also had a dx6 that has the well known problem with the on off switch which has caused at least 3 crashes with spectrum telling me that they would do nothing to fix it except send me another one with the same problem....i have no problem with spektrum except there prices and the quality received for those prices....i do enjoy these debates :)
Because the FCC limits the amount of power output from the Tx, usually the only way manufacturers have to improve range is developing better Tx's. It's too bad those chinchy Exceed Rx's with the satellite receivers aren't DSM2, because I'd like to know how they perform.
I don't know if you did that, but you should guarantee that all the times the position of the antenna in relation to the other antenna should be the same, if in a test you have both vertically parallel to each other you gone have good range, if in the next test you have one perpendicular to each other you gone have crap range. Again it just wasn't clear in the video if you took that in consideration or not, not trying to teach anything.
Hi, I really like your test and I did have problens with the orange reciever too. What I did and its still cheapper then the original DSM2 reciever is to buy a satellite for the orange receiver, this will cost around $14 at Hobby King, and after that I did not have a problem at all, even fly at the place that I have cracked my planes, because of lost o f signal. That will be great if you can add a satellite and make the same test, you would not be desaponted. Regards, Mauro from Ceara/Brazil.
Dave, Thanks so much, I have just purchased two HK Orange receivers and I put one in a Stryker and removed the AR500 that was in there to use in my Super Sportster EP that I am currently building and this video helped to let me know that I made the right choice in switching them. I have flown the Stryker several flights now with the Orange HK Rx with no problems, but still trust AR500's range a little better for a balsa plane and you confirmed my gut feeling.
This was a godsent! Thank you for this review of the receivers range, I just got me two of those HK and was aprenhensive to use them cause the range issues. Great video Mr Herbert!
Watched a lot of your videos over the years Dave, you never fail to deliver either a entertaining time, or some damn good info, never.
Thanks a billion, and take care of yourself old timer.
-Mike.
Fantastic that you take your time and then share it with us. Thanks.
Great job Dave, I was planning on purchasing a few of the orange Rx myself and now with your information I think I will try a few of them myself and you can be assured that I will test then to make sure they will be safe to fly! Thank you for your videos, they are always fun and educational!! 2 THUMBS UP! jb
hi Dave, great job testing both RX's, thx for this ! I have 3 HK orange RX but recently bought HK orange satellites too. Maidened my PZ P51D a couple of weeks ago (3 Flightmax HK lipo batteries 11.1 V 3s 1300 maH 20C and 2 Rhino 1350 maH 25 C used in 5 succesfull consecutive flights) with orange RX and satellite and it worked perfectly. Range was no problem and could fly as far as I can see and feel comfortable with, yesterday I did another 3 flights and all is fine. So far so good ! lol
Great video! I wonder if Hobby King is following the trajectory outlined in "The Inventors Dilemma", where companies start out with low-end or lower-quality products, and then move up the food chain. I love those Kraft servos! I hope you keep adding some of this interesting historical context to your videos, it's so interesting to those of us new to the field!
Basically confirms my own tests and experience with the Orange RX's. Doesn't mean that I won't use them, but I only install them in foamies and I keep them close!
Thank you for an informative video!
Thank you for this informational vid, Dave. THe comparison was an eye opener. I thought all Orange RXs were made equal. I use them on my scratch-built foamies and my clone 450 heli; on my scratch-built AP, I use the Spektrum RX. Make more of these vids, Dave. You are definitely doing great with your contributions to the hobby!
Another great video Dave. I know your pain with the Hobby King and damaged goods that are DOA. I recently bought (3) of the HK Spektrum AR6110 knockoffs. All (3) of them work, but will not hold a bind. HK says I have to pay to send them back. Like you said, not worth the return shipping. I have also noted, they are no longer selling them at this time! Have fun my friend ~ James
I really injoyed this one! and even tough the range is worse, i thinnk im getting few of those RX's for my DX7 i think the range is, especially for foamies and stuff like that, MORE than enough! great job dude!
Good video as always and great to finally see someone do a ground range test with these receivers.
But I'd say the actual flying range should be about 1,5 times the range on the ground or so, right?
The difference between both transmitters on the other hand is surprising.
thanks for a wonderfully comprehensive video, sir.
You keep mentioning that "you could never fly this far away" but people who fly FPV can go that far and much further. So, this is a very valuable test for them as well. Thanks Dave!
WOW ! Thanks so much i am going to do some equill test simply because now im hearing the anntene must be a perfect length for the best reception and so on with seeing your testing i am thinking i have about twenty orange receivers and they are all the same but now i dont think they are all equill! we have lost controll before but wrote it off to other stuff now i know i need to look again! i was about to put up some brand new planes for fpv and im glad i know a test to run.
Really very nice vids sir dave this is really good way of range checking
I have lost a total of 4 planes to Lock out on AR500's and AR6110E'S. I am selling off all of my spektrum receivers and replacing them with the Orange with UBEC's. No issues with the Orange at all! And for $8 its a pure no brainer... thanx for the vid though! Good info!
I only use the orange rx with the satelite rx with it, had no problems, never used it by itself.Nice easy way to test the range Dave.
Great vid, would love to see the results with the new OrangeRX satellite reciever add on.
well i appreciate your test results , i noticed the orange recievers were not the full range , where as the spektrum was,. thay do have full range orange rx.s with two ;long grey antennae , and i have had no problems with the full range. yes i did have issues with the orange rx.s with the one little short red antennae thank you , please try your experiment with orange full range , would love to see the results. and fyi, i recently have had issues with my new DX8 FAILING RANGE TEST, horizon hobby stated nothing wrong, crashed two planes , could pace off only about 23-25 paces during range test,. not sure what to think. thank you marty
Thank you for a GREAT DEMONSTRATION and review
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When building a EXI 450, I had to remove my Spectrum AR6110 because in declining battery charge the motor would cut out on me. I erplaced it with one of the HK orange rx's and have had no problems since. I give them a thumbs up for being 80% cheaper and having good performance. Of course I can't fly my 450 near as far as an Airplane anyway.
Unlike the others the numbers arent my main concern, that was answered with the driving test, those I would love to see more of. I have switched my whole fleet over to the orange rx with satilites and now have a box full of unused paperweight spektrum recievers. Very Very good review. But like other mentioned why did you not road test the Speks?
Unless I'm mistaken, the Orange Rx you show is clearly marked as a Park receiver, not full range. I've flown 6 of these Orange park receivers in a number of planes at our field, flying as far as my eyesight allows and never had a glitch. Spektrum is also made in China but hopefully with better quality control, components and design. I also flew with Kraft equipment in the (distant) past. Lost one plane when the wire wound elevator stick pot failed (the wiper wore through the wire and it opened up) so they weren't bullet proof. Servos were good, though, but quite large and heavy. I've had reasonable luck with Hobby King products but also got one inoperative servo and a receiver that wouldn't hold it's bind.
That is not a park receiver. I had 12 of them before my big fire destroyed everything. They all worked fine. The park Orange receivers are called Orange Lites. I used to work at Kraft RC systems. We used only military grade A pots, so am surprise to hear that. Thanks.
The Orange receivers I mentioned say ORANGE Rx, DSM2 and Park Receiver in very small letters. The antennas are short, 1" wires poking out of the case at right angles. What you show in the video may be a different Rx as it's not clear although it looks like the ones I've used. Yes, Kraft was good stuff with good customer service. I mailed Kraft about the wire wound stick pot and they sent a replacement with a carbon element. I assumed I wasn't the only one who had a wire wound pot fail.
This WAS full range. In no place does it say it is a Park Receiver. It can be read easily at :23 It was the first of the Orange Receiver line in 2011 and were advertised as full range long before they came out with the second versions of Orange receivers with 2 antennae I would never use a park receiver in any of my planes. Thanks again.
Are you still a teacher at a school? If so, what do you teach? I enjoy and look forward to your well thought out informational RC videos. I thank you for your time, Max.
thanks dave i am into helis and i fly very widein the field many of my mates keep saying ,dont lose range now but you have just proved theres plenty i have walked the lengh of the fields and alls ok but this vids helps many thanks grant new zealand
Thanks Dave. I have soem of these in my drawer, nice to know they're ok. How about a review on the 'MX Microlite park receiver' ?
awesome video and very helpful, those companies better come to you for testing what is that old saying buyer beware, right?
Another great vid! Thanks! I wonder how the range changes by adding a satellite receiver... you should test that too!
Dave, I have learn so much from you. Can you give us more info on how you made the RX beep when out of range? Maybe a schematic?
Good job. Thanks for the tips. Helped me make a decision in RX
Interesting and enjoyable video, very informative, thanks.
Very Informative Dave! Quick Question, Whats the main difference between the 2 Dx6i's? Other than of course your green and red lights! LOL. Just curious. I dont use Dx6i, but I have many new pilots Im training and they have DX6i's. I only have issue with what batteries they use and what voltage is left in the Tx. Thanks DAVE!
Great video Dave, very informative. I was wondering about the orange rx's as I run futaba and just bought a couple orange rx but havent had the time to range test.
I do have one question though Why is the orange rx 1056 at 20 ft and only 793 at 15 ft? when the specturm is 1056 at 15 ft? Isn't range "Range" so to speak? or did I miss something? I did watch this video 3 or 4 times LOL any how Great test.
-OTTO-
great job as always
Wow, a Spektrum sure takes it sweet time to reconnect!
Your opinion friend.I have flown Spektrum from its initial release useing a Dx6, original Dx7, Dx7s and theDx 8 and not one singel problem ever. I have however lost three planes useing Orange Rx and had two band new ones that would not work from the time I recieved them. I would never trust anything but park flyers to an Orange Rx.
Great work, thanks from Sweden!
thank you so much for making this vidya dave!
Dave, Great job.
Problem, Antenna wires are very sensitive to positioning. Therefore if you did not keep wires exact per each test the test is not valid...
Very nice dave good work
Great stuff.Very informative as always.Thanks for posting. I have a problem too. I ordered some Dynam motor combos.The first two were bad .They sent me 2 to replace them.They do the same.Have you ever had this problem with an electric motor? When I give full power from idle,the motors just vibrate and an alarm ring goes on? If I give power slow it will not vibrate .props are balanced.The shafts are new?Any suggestions?Thanks for any help. It seems like a cheap toy car wheel with lots of play.
Thank you so very much. I'm completely new to RC Planes but not to RC hobby. I have been wondering if the Oranges are worth the money. I am only scratch building but still, Don't want to crash. Are there other spektrum compatibles?
An excellent test criteria except you didn't test multiple Spektrum receivers.
At this time we have an equal number of HK and Spektrum receivers in planes flying at our field. I have witnessed planes crashing unexpectedly over the past few months.
None of them were flying with the HK receivers. I don't know if the receivers were the reason for the crashes. I would like to see the results from more samples from both manufactuers.
Would you test a sampling of receivers that I sent you?
Jim
Hey Dave, have you heard that the orange rx apparently have a second antenna pad that can be used to attach a longer antenna. Seems like it would level the playing field a bit since the Spektrum RX has 2 long antennas. I'm also curious about the orange satellite rx and how they improve performance.
Awesome love to c vids like this thanks
Great job Sir!
Hi I found this video really interesting having just bought a load of Orange Rx's for testing. Do you know who makes the Orange receiver. I got mine from HK - havent done any range checks yet. I know HK sell them and so do others? so where so they come from re manufacture. Had the same issues with the servos. Thanks for the video. Interesting. Servoboy
I admire the effort...
@sparky0308 I think reliability should be a better argument than range, especially when even 792 feet is a pretty good distance for most airplanes. I tend to fly 2m span planes not much further away than about 200 meters which is approx. 650 feet.
Receivers will be more reliable when they have double the range though and Spektrum can't quite deal that well with interference from what I've experienced.
Hi Dave,
Great info. I have an orange rx but I also have the sattelite rx for it too. I've had a Kinetic 800 up to 280 meters. Just curious... Did you do any testing with the sattelite rx connected as it looks like your tests were done without it.
Thanks,
Andrew
@Mrinfoone on your receiver when you look at the bind port there should be a positive/negative symbol... Out of the three wires the orange one will need to be on the positive side... Way I remember it is orange always faces the bulkier bit of the receiver... You will not harm your receiver or servos by plugging them inter wrong way... Hope I helped!
Good for my park flyers, but my club models are proud to have the spektrum brand in them
Awesome rc shark at the end! And great video! Thanks 4 sharing. Ps. Check out what I recorded from my Radien, apparently humans aren't the only ones flying at rc parks anymore.
@flyingchimp99 It takes power from the lipo and takes the volatage down to a safe voltage to power the rx and servos. Most esc has them built in but you can use an external one for saftey
Something strange going on: if you normalize the data by taking the ratio of actual range per foot of Turkey Baster range (i.e. take the actual range stated that was based on the car calibration and divide by the Turkey Baster range test) the Red Tx comes out first with 100 ft actual per foot of Turkey, second is the Orange1 at 80, and then all the rest are 52 to 55. So it is hard to say which combo is more reliable. Using the Turkey Baster. Take away seems to be to "test your installation".
Thanks for the vid, Dave!! ...curious to know if the red DX6i had the same setting for country/ transmitter power options..??..
Semper Fi
I have to echo what unplugged wrote. It's not only a matter of polarization of the antennas. Radiation patterns of antennas can be dramatically and significantly changed by the things around it. Just sticking them both in a turkey roaster is not good enough. Were the antennas of both receivers perfectly straight and in the same orientation with regard to the transmitter? Were both receivers in exactly the same position inside the roasting pan? These factors can totally change the pattern.
Thanks Dave for the video. Would you use the orange Rx in a .40 size bird?
Very clever, educational and fun. I need help on how to set up my DX 61 , receiver, and 4 servos...rudder, elevator and 2 on the wing. Can I use the wing ones for faster turns and to go up and down.
I have the dx6i and i used the hobbyking orange rx for a few weeks and had no problems with them. Until........ I lost connection with my skyfun at less than 200 feet. I picked up the plane and the light was blinking on the rx showing a brownout due to low power. I had never had this happen with the exact same setup before. Since then all of the 10 orange rx that i bought would brownout and lose connection. Its interesting that you said your two radios had different ranges.
@NightFlyyer i know is very hard too see a plane but if you do fpv is when it comes handy i was thinking on the 2400 foot range on the transmitter , thats why the 1 000 f felt like too short to me thanks awsome videos i hopefully will buy my first plane next week , i took a look at the airfield sky trainer (cessna ) that nitroplanes has for $ 169 i think is a good deal
Awesome Video...! I just bought 2 orange receivers (6 channel without the heat shrink) from Hobby King and neither would bind with my DX6i... On one, it appeared to bind but when I disconnected it does nothing. The 2nd one appeared to bind once or twice then stop the flashing led stopped all together. It just heats up when try to bind now. Very disappointed. After this video, I might try an orange receiver but wont get my hopes up...
Thanks for the info Dave!!!!
How do you normally have your transmitter antenna pointed when flying ? It is not clear from your range testing on the road whether the transmitter is pointing along the road and, if so, whether it is straight out or tilted up. I read somewhere that the range was better if the transmitter antenna was at right angles to the model. Perhaps you could test that using your method.
Another factor should be how the receiver antennae are in relation to the transmitter so that needs testing too.
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If that is your sticker on the back window of the van then Welcome home brother.
I have a similar sticker on the bumper of my car. 66-67 outside Qui Nhon
2 questions. 1: Why test a parkflyer Rx against a Full Range Rx? and 2: why does 15 ft =793 feet for Rx and 1056 feet for the other?
I wonder if lengthening one of the antenna leads on the Orange RX would make a difference? Any thoughts on this Dave?
that was very .. educating! thanks! I off to test my failing orange satelite rx using a cooking pot then!
@dietcoke1996
i concur. you are very informative, your videos are practical, and we, the hobbyists need somebody who can say "alright, heres the right way to do it and how we did it back in the day"
in my opinion you are a good role model for kids like me who are in the hobby.
thanks.
very good test!
The orange receivers are not like the AR500 so it's not really a good comparison .I believe those orange receivers are not full range until you add the satellite receivers, they are more like the Spektrum AR6200 without the satellite receivers.
I've lost a couple planes to the orange rx's and I don't mind paying extra for the better quality spektrum RX, where also there is a warranty!
I would only use these receivers on cheap foamies. I like the price but I would not risk them in bigger planes. I have had great luck with Hobby King servos and I have had a ton of problems with the HS-55 servos.
great video mr. herbert,, its too bad the quality of stuff these days isnt like what it used to be. I never knew that you could use a pot to test range....but i guess you learn something new everyday, anyways nice job!
-Ramis182
liked the test !!!
good vid thanks for all the work only way to do it. I have 3 orange r615x with the 2 little aerials not had them long and nowhere on the case or manual does it say 'park flyer' or not full range so you would take it for granted that it was full range but on testing it obviously isn't. l tested one of mine today put the tx in the car butted up against the windscreen switched on and managed to walk exactly 470 paces away before the red flashing lost contact light came on. not exactly 470 yards but would say 400 yards give or take l took pretty long strides. So that's 1200 feet not bad l slope and never really go anywhere near that distance so long ir short range is academic to me these orange rx will serve my purpose. By the way on your video l hear a audible beeping when you drive out of range ? l don't get that and lm using the same gear ..can you tell me why ? mines in DSMX Mode
Thanks great info
Dave have you tried these receivers with the the satellites on them? Just wondering if that will improve there range.
Great job
The satellites add a lot more range to these. I know that it should only add diversity, but I checked mine with and without, and could actually get 30-35 paces away with the satellite connected vs. only about 15 without
you may have misinterpreted this. I learned from watching this that although orange recievers aren't as good as genuine spektrums, they work well enough that it doesnt matter...
what is the song at the very end of this video. And do you think that the switch that you changed could have affected the radio at all.
the ar500 is a full range receiver,and the orange ones are classed as short range parkflyers are they not.unless you put the extra satellite receiver to it then its full range.
The orange rx without a satelite isn't full range where the ar500 is full range. Have you tested the orange rx against the ar500 using the satelite?
Never had any issues with the AR500 & AR600.
When used properly they work just fine. :)
To all the commenters, just my two cents...... I have a bunch of orange RX and I have a few that give over 60 paces on the range test, while others barely go 25 paces. All have alt $12.00 plug in receiver. Most of the guys that have spectrum TX at my field use orange RX. Never had a problem with them, but HAVE had a few problems with Specktrum brand RX. I fly some of my 20 and 30 cc gas with orange RX, but I don't fly real far away. To each his own I quests. Always range test your set ups.
What radio would you recommend for a FPV newbie that will not need to be upgraded for a long time?
i just got a fpv setup from hk so with my dx6i am i only going to be able to fly like 1000 ft b4 i lose signal or is there a signal booster i can get for my tx, thanks
hey bud great video but i heard the orange receiver works alot better with the satelite attached
So if I don t have much $, would you recommend buying the orange receiver, or should I save up for a better one?
sometimes when you expose a circut board like the one inside a transmitter it will stop working or some parts will stop working its happened to me before so maybe that happened to the bad transmitter
Well my Orange receivers have never given me any trouble(as opposed to original Spectrums)and they are used in planes from 1 to 2,5m wingspan to the point where my old eyes can`t see what`s up or down.On the other hand I`ve had crashes with the original AR61`s where I nearly hit myself.Gotta admit I`m having serious doubts about bying Spectrum-how many satelites are they upto now-is it 4 or 6 on the "ultra royal"? And of course my DX8 spends more time in Germany than at the field with me!
and your are allowed to have your opinion i am just saying i have over 20+ planes and everyone has a orange receiver in it not one has had a problem i have also had a dx6 that has the well known problem with the on off switch which has caused at least 3 crashes with spectrum telling me that they would do nothing to fix it except send me another one with the same problem....i have no problem with spektrum except there prices and the quality received for those prices....i do enjoy these debates :)
yea i use hobby king orange rxs only for fomies and other park fliers i dont use them on any of my larger planes
Because the FCC limits the amount of power output from the Tx, usually the only way manufacturers have to improve range is developing better Tx's. It's too bad those chinchy Exceed Rx's with the satellite receivers aren't DSM2, because I'd like to know how they perform.
I don't know if you did that, but you should guarantee that all the times the position of the antenna in relation to the other antenna should be the same, if in a test you have both vertically parallel to each other you gone have good range, if in the next test you have one perpendicular to each other you gone have crap range.
Again it just wasn't clear in the video if you took that in consideration or not, not trying to teach anything.
so there are like 500m. of range aprox ? i though there was way more range in a stock radio
Hi, I really like your test and I did have problens with the orange reciever too. What I did and its still cheapper then the original DSM2 reciever is to buy a satellite for the orange receiver, this will cost around $14 at Hobby King, and after that I did not have a problem at all, even fly at the place that I have cracked my planes, because of lost o f signal. That will be great if you can add a satellite and make the same test, you would not be desaponted. Regards, Mauro from Ceara/Brazil.