Begode ET Max vs Leaperkim Lynx: In-Depth Comparison & Review
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2024
- In this video, two of the fastest and most powerful EUCs in the world are compared: the Leaperkim Lynx and the Begode ET Max. Which one is better? Find out in this detailed breakdown to see which electric unicycle is right for you.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
00:59 - Power
05:12 - Build Quality and Quality Control
08:27 - Waterproofing
09:15 - Ride Feel and Stability
10:45 - Suspension
13:11 - Pedals
15:43 - Ease of Maintenance
18:07 - Trolley Handle
19:31 - Lighting
21:51 - Conclusion: Which EUC is Better?
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I started riding EUC's about 2 months ago. My first was an Inmotion V8S. I got instantly hooked on riding. It's a great wheel because it's so portable and for it's size it's quite the performer. It still left me wanting for more speed and range. Every wheel seemed to have its pros and cons, except the Lynx, so I ordered one. It's so very different. It's heavy by comparison and it took some getting used to. The suspension is great and having power pads makes it more comfortable. I'm still in the re-learning stages of this wheel but it seems to do everything I ask of it. I feel like I have mastery over the V8S and still ride the heck out of it. Bottom line is the Lynx is a beast of a wheel and I don't think I will ever outgrow it.
Interesting, I had a similar story but 6 years ago. Started on the V8, rode it 4 years (8000km) mostly Offroad, and then upgraded to S22 when it came out. Now I've too bought the Lynx, because the s22 is crap.
same, just got my Lynx today and may last wheel was an MSP, I can max out at the speed and have a few thousand miles on it, but this Lynx makes me feel like a noob. Literally dumped it 15 secs into the first ride because turning it was so different compared to the MSP
I tried the ET Max. It felt a lot like riding my EX30, except that it was more powerful and easier to turn with the narrower rim. It was incredibly well balanced and stable. I did some hard acceleration and braking and had no wobbles whatsoever. Unlike the EX30, the ET Max didn't feel like it needed any aftermarket mods to unlock the potential. This is perhaps the first big wheel from Begode that seems like a finished product. I was so tempted to buy one and fell in love with it instantly. I do wish it had a bit more range, though.
One big thing to consider is "how much can we trust these wheels?"
A friend is currently in negotiations with begode for a bribe to cover up another wheel 🔥
They have done this many times
Leaperkim has never done this
You don't, I charge my Master in the middle of my garage floor. I might be a little less cautious if it had a proper BMS.
Cheers
Go for Lynx ne ver a
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Very well put together video, thanks for your hard work
Great video. I watched your last video about the Lynx too. Also great. Learned a lot. I can't wait to get a modern EUC.
I don't usually enjoy reviews that have no actual riding content... but, I really enjoyed this review/comparison. Great work!!
Nice vid, I was myself wondering, what if I would've gotten the ET max instead... I'm 100% happy now for choosing the Lynx ✌️
If you have pedals with nubs you can take a cutting disc for the dremel and cut horizontal notches and it makes them 1000× better. Excellent video Rob!!
My lynx has a street tire so 55mph (on its speedo) is stable as long as you are. The only issue i've had has been with the trolley handle getting stuck in the out position, which is apparently a common problem as ewheels had a kit ready to mail out as a fix when i mentioned it.
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You are too kind, thank you so much! 😀
Thank you for the video, by comments I see you have order Shinko 244. I have ridden with this tire on my Master and I absolutely love it. Shinko 244 gives so much more gyro force over normal knobby, nowhere near a street tire though!
Going to put it in my Lynx and was thinking if I need to shave the sides, in Master I had it with spacers.
An idea for a content: How to fit Shinko 244 into Lynx, do we need to shave it? Mention about the "hair" in the tire which should be clipped away to reduce noise + possibility to grind on inner shell.
Awesome review video 📹 ❤👏 well spoken and fair opinion. Couldn't help but noticed that you have protection covers on the Lynx bumpers, can you tell me where did you buy it? I went to grizzal but they don't offer full fairing system. Also Clark Pads don't offer any fairing system for the Lynx either. It's a bummer 😕
Vertexpads.com 🙂
@@WheelGoodTime thank you 😊
Glad i bought the lynx i rode etmax other day like the lynx better so did the guy with the etmax. He said he was getting one
Good choice 🤙
Just ordered the ET Max this past weekend; had the Patton before that. Definitely wanted more stability and wanted higher speeds, so I’m pumped to go on my first ride with it.
I honestly like how Begode takes time after the release to update firmware with their wheels; you get to see and feel the progress. Similar to updating a Tesla with a performance package!
Speaking of upgrades, how would I go about finding that 900lb spring for it? I know that eWheels provides it but I ordered from Alien Rides, and I can’t seem to find the 900lb spring on its own to purchase.
Next Gen Mobility can custom order the 900 lbs spring for you 🙂 it'll be totally worth it!
J'en ai un à te vendre si tu veux
Lynx all the way for versatility 💫
Great review, thank you. Regarding the ET Max being better for street riding, isn't that extra weight a negative for that type of riding, less comfortable or nimble? Maybe it's more about what type of street riding, with traffic, etc.
For high speed street riding, you generally want something that is stable at the highest speeds, because at 40+ mph you don't want the slightest thing to throw off your balance. But yes, below those speeds, nimbleness is a big asset. With a heavy wheel, the weight becomes an asset rather than a hindrance because the weight gives it more stability at speed. Hope this helps 🤠
@@WheelGoodTime Not sure what type of streets let you hold speeds of 60mph in a city, in Barcelona for example there are no streets with traffic that allow those speeds besides short bursts or hard accelerations. I understand the greater stability of a heavier wheel but still think a good street tire and enough experience make the Lynx ideal because of the weight. Kind regards!
@@wheelman6964 I agree, 60 mph is a very uncommon thing for most riders, few ever need to go that fast (and if they do, it's in a car). The Lynx is my personal choice, and with a different (non-stock) tire you can make it stable enough for higher sustained speeds, close/similar to that of the ET Max. 🥳
I think it is wishful thinking, wanting Begode to add high acceleration from standstill. Because if Begode could, they would already have released a wheel that could surpass the Patton or Lynx for instant acceleration. I am still waiting.
To the EX30, they added fieldweakening. But that lowers the torque/acceleration and increases the topspeed.
My Abrams accelerates faster than my EX30 from standstill. So Begode needs to do a lot of work on the firmware.
You need to understand that developing high acceleration from a standstill demands time and precise engineering. Just because Begode hasn't rolled out a wheel that is superior to the Patton or Lynx in instant acceleration doesn't mean they're incapable of doing it. The LYNX isn’t ALL that off a standstill either. When the EX30 was introduced, it, too, was sluggish off the jump. It took months of testing to present a firmware update that delivered better performance and safety. And while we’re on the subject of the EX30, it introduced field weakening for higher speeds without compromising ALL of the torque and acceleration. In fact, the app allows you to adjust the amount of field weakening you prefer AND the field weakening doesn’t even kick in until 70% of PWM anyway. Let’s also talk about the Abrams. Sure, it may feel quicker off the line, but it's notorious for unexpected cutouts. You’re going to compare THAT to the EX30? No comparison. The EX30 is STILL considered a great wheel for all around performance and reliability. The ABRAMs is garbage. (I say this with all due respect 🫡)
Y do the E.uni's have such little torque.
I d much prefer massive acceleration to hi speed, 70 kph is way more than I need n E way.
I'd trade that top speed for rocket like take-off up a steep incline.
I'd much rather take 50kph top speed & acceleration to 50kph up a 60° incline under 2 seconds than 100 kph top speed.
Something about their looks suggests the Lynx is better for day rides, while the ET Max is for night rides.
Perhaps yes... But if you want to see traffic, and be seen by traffic, then the Lynx is your best bet 🙂
@@WheelGoodTime I personally wouldn’t rely on either wheels lights for safety…I have a BrakeFree helmet light for braking, and a helmet lamp to see with…no matter what wheel I’m on.
The more lights, the better for maximum visibility 🙂
Team Lynx
Leaperkim just won the perfect EUC allrounder competition.....its good enough for everything so evening is something good comes out it dosent matter
whats the point having high pedals on Begode if battery cases is lower?
the low battery cases are for added stability
Begode should spend some time and money tidying up their app/software offering, which is very untidy and sclerotic. A mess actually.
I’m waiting for a bit more WH, as reported with the Max at speed we’re limited to 30 miles in range… that comes quickly.
Personally, I expect the upcoming big battery 168v Begode wheel to be announced very soon 🙂
When is the et max master pro coming out? 6000wh or better. Lets goooo
They tend to drop announcements rather unexpectedly. However I bet it's going to come any day now!
How much do you weigh out of curosity? I'm trying to decide between the 900lb an 1300lb spring for the ET Max.
I weigh 192, geared riding weight is ~200-205. Unless you weigh greater then 250 lbs, I think the 900 would be best.
I want you to try out the GT Pro and then compare it to the ET Max. Everyone I've seen seems to say that it's better
Interesting! I'd love to get my hands on one.
Where did you get the proof for the ET max ip67 rating?
I just posted an excerpt from the report (the important bits) in a new post on the YT channel community tab 🙂
Ordered myself a Lynx, current wheel is a Ninebot Z10, about 300km ridden. Lynx just appears to be the more reliable choice out of everything else. I needed a all around wheel for riding for pleasure, Lynx might be a bit too bulky to go grocery shopping, not quite sure how it would get perceived, but it seems like a safer wheel for just having fun and exploring. I should probably also get a V8F/S for short distance riding, which seems more or less safe, but i have doubts about the battery cells these are using.
Why do you have doubts about the battery cells?
@@WheelGoodTime As I have understood the batteries in these wheels are not historically known for causing fires, the model V8S has switched to newer LG cells to increase capacity. However, I was unable to find specific information about which cells these are exactly. After contacting what was supposedly a factory support on the Alibaba site for more details, I initially learned that it uses LG cells (not specifying the model). But when I asked for the exact model, the response was that it uses Chinese cells. I think this could explain the reduced price, but I'm unsure if I would like to keep a wheel with cells of unknown reliability and no BMS.
Gotcha I thought at first you meant you had doubts about the Lynx's battery cells. For the V8F/S I understand your concern. I think once you get used to riding your Lynx, you won't have much desire to ride anything else 🙂
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Should try using street tyre on Lynx to compare those two
I'd love to give it a try! This comparison is intended for stock configurations on each of these wheels, but I am still curious how differently the lynx rides with a street tire. I hear great things about the Shinko 244, despite it being a trail oriented tire, so I ordered one for my lynx 🙂
@@WheelGoodTime I'll look forward to hearing how you like the Shinko. Tempted to do the same despite enjoying the Kenda 262 so far. I'm curious if the Shinko 244 will actually help the street stability at speed. What do you think about the pedal lowering kit for offroad? I do mostly trail riding, but have noticed I'm a bit tentative about pushing the speed when I'm on the street. I really don't want to lose any offroad performance by lowering it, but if it's not really an issue and actually improves the sense of stability at speed, I may just go for it:).
It's much more stable since i installed Pirelli Diablo sport on my Lynx...proper street tyre will give you stability more since it has that upright effect .. but still lynx is light wheel hehehe since I have Ex30 as well with same tyre , so I know how both feel on high speed run :)
The lowering kit does improve your sense of stability, especially at speed. Some have said it may cause pedal scrapes, but personally I haven't had that happen yet. I like the lowering kit! 🙂
@@WheelGoodTime lowering kit definitely helps the stability, but then only helps on straight line if stock tyre or any knobby tire is installed. Lowering kit won't help fast cornering for hard core riders as they will scrape them a lot. With street tyre, that Spanish rider has 90/90 profile installed, the control of manoeuvring the wheel is with the rider without being afraid to lean their body weight during fast cornering since that tyre profile is to keep the wheel upright. She would definitely scrape pedals if she has lowering kit installed
Excellent review! Again, you didn't touch the batteries and the BMS, so I could argue something.... (I think you were afraid of me arguing 😛). Well done. Kudos.
I'd stil prefer the lynx
same
Yep, bought it
Because of quality
Because of quality, because it's literally 10kg less, because of its superior suspension, because of its longer no maintenance time, and because Begode shocked me with their bad design and quality in the past. Leaperkim was always ahead. (Psht we ignore Abraham's)
Lynx is a much better "street wheel" depending what you consider "street riding"
It's not all about going faster
The manoeuvrability of the lynx makes it better for what I consider "street riding"
Master pro is better than both on the street .more range and better seated riding wheel aswell
Just a question of tire choice. But a good street tire on the Lynx, and it'll be way better for the city as it's lighter and has a better trolly.
Master Pro v3 is better for street riding, but definitely not city riding.
Well, unless it's an American city, these are basically just streets
I feel fine at 54 mph GPS -59 wheel speed, I can deep carve between 2 lanes at 45 mph no problem
Such a tough decision!
Not at all. The answer is clear. Lynx.
Off the line the Lynx feels as fast accelerating as my V11Y up to 18 mph, after that the Lynx really accelerates hard
If both wheels have a 14" rim does that mean you could but the Begode ET Max tyre on the Lynx...?
No, there isn't enough clearance because of the fender vertically, and battery boxes side to side.
@@WheelGoodTime Seems to me the best wheel straight out the box is the Begode, the Lynx seems like you have to spend money on it lowering the pedals and spending money on other things before you even ride it....??
@@tanyano9 yeah that seems fairly accurate. I believe the Lynx offers a better ride experience overall, but ET Max is pretty complete already while the lynx needs a few extras to get that awesome ride experience.
@@WheelGoodTime Thanks for the rapid reply, as you can probably guess I'm looking at these two wheels ....
@@tanyano9 if you have any more questions, I'd be happy to answer them to help you out further 🙂
So it seems if you are a high speed commuter the et max is your wheel, if you like messing around on wheels and trail riding n stuff the lynx is your wheel
I would disagree it depends what you consider top speed I think the ET Max only has it beat by maybe 5 mph max, I routinely cruise at 51 miles per hour GPS speed (54 wheel speed) riding the streets, as the battery gets down to 30% I get beeps at 48 wheel speed 44 gps.
Without a lot of practice I agree the ET Max is better for canyon racing when you're making turns at high speed and braking
The beep start at 53 mph ws (49 gps) down to about 75% battery
@@-JohnSmith- I only say it because the weight and height helps with stability and seated riding. I feel on lighter wheels anything above 40 I’m kinda nervous to be on my phone, but on heavier wheels I can divert my attention more without fear of loosing balance
I know a lot of friends that can easily control the lynx at 50+ mph. I think once you’re used to the lynx, wobbles shouldn’t be an issue. Just don’t be scared if you believe wobbles happen at 45. I’m certain it’s not the wheel’s fault
The Lynx is definitely more stable at high speeds with different tires other than the stock Kenda 262. I don't want people to think wobbles will just happen at 45 mph - you're right. I just wanted people to understand that the ET Max is more inherently stable at higher speeds than the Lynx. 🙂
8 don't think begode will be able to change to offline torque. it's probably due to the motor whinging being different and these larger motors dont accelerate as hard intially
I've tried a few different firmwares on the ET Max, and the current one has less than an old version, weirdly enough. I personally think they can do it by increasing pedal softness 🙂
You know how Nascar and Formula 1 racing has one vehicle that looks all the same because it's pretty much the same vehicle. I think the Lynx could be that one vehicle for EUC racing.
With the exception for long distance rides, master Pro v3 takes that cake
10-20 hours per 10 minutes. Thats insane.
This "talking head" type video took me about 12-15 hours total of planning/scripting/filming/editing/publishing, so this one was actually much easier 😜 it's always the wheel reviews and "ride footage-heavy" stuff that takes loads of time 🙂
Haha… you can bet begode tightened all the screws on the one they sent to the I.P. Testers..
the second number in ip rating is for dust.
so by water resistance rating they are the same
The first digit is for solids, the second digit is for liquid. 🙂 www.iec.ch/ip-ratings
@@WheelGoodTime Thanks for clarifying this... as this was my understanding too.
Jet plane vs. a propeller plane.
Can anyone say these “IP” ratings are bona fide?
This testing needs to be done at an independent laboratory for obvious reasons. I know Inmotion do this on their latest wheels. What about the other manufacturers?
Manufacturers who test their devices themselves may well cheat, hence the need for independent testing.
Can anyone comment?
I saw the IP reports with my own eyes. DM my Wheel Good Time Facebook page to see if for yourself, I'll send it to you 🙂
@@WheelGoodTime
Ok thanks.👍
They are good for electronics but for bearings it's still a crapshoot, high possibility for water ingress in the bearings even with an IP rated wheel, they haven't solved that puzzle yet.
Lynx is 4 mph over GPS speed
At what speed is it 4 mph over? The speedometer gets its speed information from the tire rotation speed, so it will always be off by a certain percentage.
@@WheelGoodTime From about 45 to 55 wheel speed
What takes you 10 to 20 hours per 10 minutes? There’s barely any editing or anything going on in the production sense. Maybe hire an editor!
Planning everything, which includes writing the script, filming, transferring files to the computer (insta360 files take a LONG time due to the tracking), editing the video files, planning and creating the thumbnail, creating video metadata in UA-cam so the algorithm "sees" me, re-watching multiple times to ensure there are as few editing errors as possible, re-filming some shots that didn't go as planned, and finally... uploading the file to UA-cam. This particular video took less time overall - "talking head" videos consistently take less time to create - but many can take much longer than that. For example, my ET Max, Lynx and GT Pro videos each took roughly 40-60 hours of work to create, from start to finish.