What RUINED Don Bluth Animation?
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2019
- Don Bluth was the first, true rival Disney animation ever faced. He went head-to-head with them releasing movies on the same date as Disney's films. Despite putting up a fight, his success ran out and went down hill. Why did this happen? What exactly ruined Don Bluth's run against Disney?
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More Don!
2d animation, where did it go?
I did. I sure did. Nice research on this topic for the video. I've always wanted to know so much about the Bluth(no pun intended)
The Amazing Bulk
Saberspark Please Review Popee the performer That violent japanese 3D animated kids show
Disney: makes movies about following your dreams.
Don Bluth: Follows his dreams.
Disney: Wait,that's illegal
Disney: We have to keep extending the copyright laws so Mickey Mouse doesn't go into the Public Domain!
Disney: Let's make another movie based off of someone else's fairy tale and not pay any royalties to their families!
Disney: let's remake a movie and pretend the original doesn't exist and then belittle the original creator (who was a Disney fan) in the press.
Why though guys, WHY!!!!!
@@silkworm2595 You'll have to elaborate on that one.
@@crocodileman94 kimba
Disney: “Heh…not bad, Don-kun. You made me use 10% of my power.”
Is your picture the lead singer of Avatar?
Look at all those chickens No, it’s Demonaz from Immortal
More like "we actually have money, suck it don"
1 thousandth like
*10% of my money
If you ask me, Bluth forced Disney to step up their game.
Damn bro why you so negative
@@Justin-uc8sc if I may ask, why is that negative?
Totally. Disney was getting stale. They needed competition.
Guess the girls start fighting eh
They need that again
As of September 2020, Bluth is now starting up a new animation company which will focus on 2D animated films.
Update: As of 2024, I haven't heard any further news on Bluth's new company. Still hoping for the best though.
I REALLY hope it works out better than before. He has no competition in 2D animation anymore and I'm certain there's a market for it. I know I'm super, super over 3D animated films. The animation lacks warmth for me.
why i think bluth will live being a dude who "is starting a new animation company"
REALLY???? Okay I'm so down for classic 2d style!
I hope it all works well, so tired of disney.
YEAH!
Yes I miss 2d
Hearing the little dinosaur say “yup yup yup” is bittersweet.
Poor kid... :(
Judith barsi?
@@roccimo Yeah. Poor girl.
That little girl's father was a monster, nothing more.
+Wastelander1972
I don't know what's sadder; that Maria Barsi was so close to leaving Jozsef, or that she didn't even think of filing a restraining order against him the night of her and Judith's murder.
Matthew Moran Sadly. Actor Michael Caine even offered to help them out, but for some reason Judith’s mother seemed hesitant out of fear.
"Nowadays Disney has many rivals..."
Not really, they keep buying them up...
No not really tho. 🤔🤨😐.
You are wrong tho
Hoshino Otaku
What do you mean
The only rival they haven't bought would be WB/DC...... (Warner Brothers and DC)
Warner Bros. and their subsidiaries, Sony's BlueSky Animations, NBCUniversal and its subsidiaries like DreamWorks, etc.
"All dogs go to heaven" is a huge nostalgic blast to me
Same!
Yo same tho. Those movies were awesome
Yeah mine to..
What's wierd is that everyone is all like 'oh yeh Disney is my entire childhood'
But I've seen more don bluth films than classic disney films.
Me too
Same! I haven't even seen most of the classic Disney films...
I haven't seen any of the films mentioned in this video, but the I have heard of the two video games Dom made.
Tbh, I prefer Don Bluth movies over classic Disney, but they were so similar that I couldn't spot the difference
I've seen all the Disney movies, probably more than any Don Bluth movies but looking back at them they had far more impact on me. Like the land before time and all dogs go to heaven are like the only movies to make me cry (I'd probably still cry if I watched them now XD)
Like I didn't even realize they were from the same guy when I was a kid.
Still. He showed. Never laugh at a mans dreams. He punched back hard. Maybe not with a final win. But this man's dream was no push over.
I'd rather die fighting than live in humiliation.
@@BeeaReyoU. I agree hugely
Like Rocky. He didn't win the match, but he went the distance.
It goes to show you that sometimes no matter how hard you try you will always be a failure in life
@@Donnyvoon weak bait.
Holy crap, that Don Bluth reference in Samurai Jack I never realized made me grin ear to ear.
I never understood, and now i'm so damn pleased.
it's practically an inside joke at this point. Unless you were born in the early 80s, played both games, or a Don Bluth fan, it would fly over many people's heads.
So you're telling me that wasn't an edit?
@@timerbunneh hell no, man. It's honest-to-goodness legit!
OH MY GOD!!! HOW DID I NOT KNOW THAT?!?!?
I find it so weird that Don Bluth never made sequels to his own movies. It was always another person and studio.
The land before time sequels: am I a joke to you?
Ever heard of land before time sequels?
@@xboy1064 I think he is referring to sequels directed by Don himself.
@@vaderetro9648 o h sorry
@@justaguywhowatchesyoutube5588they weren’t directed by Don Bluth.
Thumbelina and Anastasia were my favourite.
Dancing bears, painted wings, things I used to remember....
Rockadoddle was my childhood.
I watched it with my dad..
I miss those days..
Anastasia sucked
It’s not all bad he did give us Tim Curry as an evil penguin 🐧.
yeah, Tim Curry is a master of villains, hell he was in another bluth film as a villain in Ferngully the last rainforest that even has THE Robin Williams in there! Kinda makes you wonder how they both react when meeting the greatest stars
This penguin villain was a best part of a movie. He is kind of example of "so bad, so its good" rule. His absurdity makes him fun and charismatic
Mad-Hatter-ison Witkowksi Ferngully is not Don Bluth, but Tim Curry did appear in “Bartok the Magnificent” as a giant talking head giving skeletal based joke riddles.
tbh The Pebble & The Penguin is one of my biggest guilty pleasures ever
@@robbiewalker2831 Thought it was....
But I remember Bartok very well, it was one of the sequels that made you question if it really was since the only returning character was Bartok.
I will say and admit, it was one of the cutest Bluth film out of the others. One of my childhood gems next to the former film too.
To be fair though, even the bad movies are still visually interesting
Don't forget, some of the characters too :)
And certain voice actors.
Don may have made bad films, but it wasn't from a lack of effort and care, that's for sure.
A troll in Central Park was my favorite
True dat.
Honestly I really wish I had gotten to see Ice Age in Don Bluth's traditonal animation style, or at least a 3D animation version of it.
Imagine the incredible expressions and proportions he could have given the characters, especially Sid who already looks a bit like a Don Bluth character.
You comment a lot
"[...] his bad films! Pebble and the Penguin, Rock-a-doodle, and A Troll in Central Park."
But... I loved those movies. *sad noises*
I would argue Rock-a-doodle was better than LBT.
@@objectionheresay9668 U need help!!!!!!😠
IamCoalfoot U also need help!!!!!!
@@Draco-1400 Lol, loving your passion here
Secret of NIMH was a special film for me. An American Tail was a fun adventure film. And The Land Before Time is a strange but fun franchise
DON'T YOU DARE SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT THE LAND BEFORE TIME!
Matt Vu
Realistic cgi is crap compared to cartoony stylization.
@@starguardlux2874 dont worry he only worked on the first one
The Land Before Time will always be my favourite, but the soundtrack is just so nostalgic to me that I get overly emotional when I hear it.
But man did they just destroy that series. Terrible sequels, some horrible TV version and I'm sure other things that would make me physically ill. It's par for the course though considering what happened to both fievel and secret of nymn.
Who else here is hoping that Don's Dragon's lair movie becomes a thing ?
I want Dirk the Daring from Dragon's Lair in Super Smash Bros Ultimate and before you say anything, Dragon's Lair is a video game. So Dirk can qualify in the game.
I spent so much money on the Dragon's Lair arcade that Don should be rich. Never did beat it either. A movie would more than make up for that.
Me
After that Indiegogo I'd sure hope so. It wasn't enough to make a movie, obviously... but it was still people's money. I hope the pitch was really picked up. I lost track of what happened since
@@elmono6299
That would be cool
The land before time and an American Tale were my favorites
Mine too! As a 2nd generation American, both movies (but mostly Fievel) both strike home.
Diana Setterby I loved Land before time but American Tale I just wanted feed Fievel to the cats. In fact he's the reason I feed live mice and rats to cats
@lan fortuna Why? Fievel is awesome, and An American Tail in general is a really great film.
David Herrera he's an annoying rat and he beat out Disneys own mouse themed movie the great mouse detective he's just so annoying
David Herrera ua-cam.com/video/1HG9igUxx5o/v-deo.html
Don Bluth sounds like he would be bad at monopoly with all his studios that went bankrupt and all
So true! Bluth go back Disney. Oh well
He definitely wouldn't be able to pulls Disney and buy all his competition so he can force his company to stay above the water.
The last time I was this early, American 2d animation was still alive and well.
to me cgi is nothing special these days
I'm still waiting for 1D
I read this as the second ammendment and I was very confused
I miss 2D animation..
@@laurelalloro Watch TV. It's alive and well there.
Just reading the title killed me a little inside. I really miss his style in animation today.
The animation style of An American Tale was always one of my favorites.
same here
Don Bluth movies had style and that special flair well many of those old movies are probably just nostalgic
Doug Sahr why?
Doug Sahr his movies were crap
10:20 I had "All dogs go to heaven" on a VHS 😁
I also had "The pebble and the penguin", "Thumbalina", "The land before time", "The sword in the stone", "Anastasia" and "Bartok". I kinda miss watching movies like that.
Same! It sucks that movies are judged on how well the do in the box office.
Saberspark mentioned how All Dog Go To Heaven sold well on VHS. I had a copy of it as well and so many other people I know had it on VHS.
Kinda?
@@MrJavaman5 still have a copy.
Fun fact: I have the entire Land Before Time collection
Now I' wondering what Ice Age would look as a Don Bluth film
Mannie would have died
It would've been more interesting, very more mature, than we have right now.
The land before time, An American tale and All dogs go to heaven were my favorite childhood movies.
Dogs was the first film I saw in theatre. I remembre being slightly irritated by the daylight afterwards.
Can’t keep a good dog Dow-wow-wow-wow-won!
Anastasia and DGTH will always be great classics in my eyes.
@@notgray88 Loved Anastasia also, the animation quality is just so good. Its like candy for the eyes!
Same.
"The Land Before Time" God, I love that movie. One of the best.
Original > Sequels
Judith Barsi Ducky's voice actor was Murdered by her Father it breaks my heart to even watch this movie
I remember it being one of my favorites when I was growing up. I really need to go back and watch it again. It has been too long since I last saw it.
This is the only film that made me cry.
ashton houran yup, made me cry every time when I watched it as a kid
this was literally just a list of every movie i loved as a kid. always thought they were just the best disney movies. i think his downfall was not getting enough exposure.
James Bowen I actually helped induce child birth with the movie "A Troll in Central Park" I laid the woman in a chair placed the remote at her feet told her "Im gonna turn on A Troll in Central Park, if the baby isn't completely brain dead it'll come rushing out to turn off the tv then I'll grab it by the hand and yank it out"
@@ianfortuna9385 Second comment I found of yours in this thread. Once again, rude and insolent like a little child. I guess Don Bluth hurt your feelings once?
K.L. Second comment? Lol you must be the troll from Central Park. Btw where are you from?
K.L. Where are you from?
@@ianfortuna9385 shut up
All of Bluth's movies even the "bad" ones were so important to me and my aesthetics.. I simply love his work ❤️
Me: "Lol who names an animation company after themself, imagine if Walt Dis... oh"
Grim funny enough when he wanted to not be credited as a director so badly for pebble and the penguin he realized, he was screwed, the company was named after him. Gary Goldman laughed at his face and was spared
420th like bros
This made me laugh my ass off
Technically its started out as Disney Brothers but Roy wanted to be behind the scenes (basically a Jobs and Watts situation) so they renamed it Walt Disney but know we mostly refer to it as Disney so it has the whole family
Omygod
Don Bluth movies: * are doing well *
The little mermaid: I'm about it end this man's whole career
Splash
mlp movie magic I guess she doesn’t want to be part of his world.
I think Don Bluth's fall can be sum up with just one word "Hubris"
Fuq the Little Mermaid. I mean yes, well executed AF, and turning the whole Disney Renaissance with their musical films into becoming a powerhouse (thanks Jodi Benson, who Don luckily got to afterwards), but the it's an unoriginal script and at no point a true depiction of the beautiful H C Christian Andersen story.
17:40 In a way, that's practically what happened, as Land Before Time received many cuts BECAUSE Spielberg and Lucas deemed some scenes too distressing or frightening. And that probably rubbed Bluth the wrong way.
I loved Pebble and the Penguin and Thumbellina. The dark designs that Bluth came up with was just so uniquely different from Disney's style
I studied animation at a school Don Bluth donated a lot of his production materials to and we were taught in our history class that Bluth and Spielberg did split up over workflow differences! Apparently Spielberg wasn't familiar with the animation pipeline and asked for lots of edits after animation was already finished and colored, which is something most animation studios would take care of in the storyboarding or rough animation stages at the very latest. It cost a lot of money and made films he worked on extra expensive to produce because of how many shots had to be almost completely redone.
I also suspect that there were creative Differences too-I suspect that Bluth wanted a more PG Land Before Time and Spielberg wanted something more kid friendly
@Gaby George You’re right. _Land Before Time_ got horribly edited because Spielberg (and George Lucas) put their 2 cents in and insisted on having a children’s psychology group evaluate the film causing somewhere around 11 minutes cut and added that old dinosaur narrating to “soften the blow.”
when Spielberg asked Don Bluth to work on a sequel of an american tail, Bluth asked for a bigger budget ( 11 millions $ instead of 8 for the first movie ). Spielberg didn't want to put this budget on table and decided to raise his own studio. ( finally, Fievel 2 needed 22 m$ and wasn't as successful as the first movie was )
MichaelAarons1701 I hate to admit it, but Lucas and Spielberg made the better call. Yes, seeing those lost minutes of Land Before Time would’ve been great, but I’m saying that as an ADULT. As a kid, I was scared shitless of LBT
According to me, Spielberg would have been more inspired to continue his collaboration with Don Bluth instead of raising his own studio because We're back ! a dinosaure story, Balto and Fievel 2 were not very good. later on, when Amblinmation became Dreamwork, the only really good films were Prince of egypt and in a certain way Road to eldorado. Spirit and Sinbad had no strong good scripts. With Don Bluth, sure Spieberg would have produce better movies and they could even be as good as those from Disney renaissance.
So Disney was Nintendo, and Don Bluth was Sega.
TheMr77469 y e s
Titan AE is the Dreamcast
Pretty much. While Pixar is Sony PlayStation and illumination is Xbox
@@normadgarmez7026 illumination, is to successfully (sadly). Xbox, it more, like Dreamworks
@@normadgarmez7026
No, pixar are both playstation and nintendo, dreamworks is Xbox and Illumination is idk
>His bad films
>Names movies that were still fun and entertaining
UUHHHH, excuse you. Rockadoodle was great...
SOMEONE AGREES!!!! AHHHH!!
_It seems like the whole, overall animation world is trying to go to where maybe animation doesn't belong._
*~ Don Bluth*
Exactly
Like anime, ugh i hate anime
@@farawaygaming_ why?
farawaygamer hate to say this to you. But Anime is right where it needs to be.
Keeping 2D Animation alive and well, along with Mature!
DragonBall Super: Broly was a worldwide phenomenon for a reason!
What about Ghibli movies or something? :p
It took me 10 years to get that joke from Samurai Jack, thank you
I get that it's referencing the game, but I still need some help
@@rachael1090 one is successful, the other not so much
The Secret of Nimh is one of my favorite movies. Not just animated.
In my opinion, enough time has passed that Classics such and Don Bluth's style and the stop motion that brought us Nightmare Before Christmas need to come back and remind us that they are still here. Despite what some companies think, there is a definite market that is larger than perceived for these types of products. Bluth...we miss you.
The change in tone was actually brought on by executive meddling. Bluth wanted to add darker elements to rock-a-doodle, but executives wouldn't let him because they wanted it to appeal more to kids.
He was even forced to cut a scene on which the owl villain cooks a skunk alive.
Now I'm worried about what's gonna happen if Don Bluth's Netflix suffers the same thing executive meddling.
@@elchanchopato9601 What would the Bluth Cut look like?
Wow
It's an old story:
1.Creative artist makes good stuff.
2. Corporate powers tell them to water it down to appeal to kids
3. It appeals to no one.
People that I know hate Anastasia cuz there like “it’s sooooooooooo inaccurate” but I mean, it’s good inaccurate
Considering that those Bolshevik fucktards slaughtered millions, including children, drove their own country to the brink of ruin along with half the region, went about invading other nations and starting proxy wars and (along with the Americans) almost started a nuclear holocaust a bunch of times... yeah.
Hey the movie does have a catchy villain song with Rasputin (voiced by Christopher Lyod but sung by Jim Cummings).
@@elmono6299 RA RA RASPUTIN LOVER OF THE RUSSIAN QUEEN
Yeah, it was an AMAZING movie but it just wasn't accurate
Who cares if it’s inaccurate? Movies like this and Disney’s always make me interested in the actual history/original story
*Anastasia is now on Disney+*
Disney: You could not live with your own failure. And where did that bring you? Back to me.
To don bluth xd
Anastasia is one of my FAVORITE animated movies ever 😭❤️ and American Tail was a frequent pick on my weekend trips to the video store as a kid
It’s sad. Just seeing Disney’s ACTUAL competitor take a huge fall.
Its like the Pewds and Tseries fight. One man Vs a huge company.
But he didnt have the supposed Pewds did..
It was like Nintendo vs SEGA.
Remember when Disney were real a**holes to the creator of Kimba. They're a bunch of bullies.
Disney motivate this guy to make his legacy
In the 80’s bluth kinda motivated Disney to get back up again
Bluth is a legend
The Land Before Time was such a big part of my childhood, I remember having a VHS and just watching it at least once a week. It really sparked my love for dinosaurs as a child.
I had the whole series, and I had frequent marathons
those movies were the shit when I was a kid
Ive still got the Land before time collection on VHS at my grandma's house. Used to watch them alot from age 4-7.
@@Jennie-qy5ps I'd still watch them too if I had them
my VCR broke, and my youngest sibling pulled out some of the tape in them
if I ever see the full collection on DVD, I'll probably get it
@@grimmoflunalis1440 Wal*Mart has had the 14-film collection for awhile now, I think it's like $30 or $40. I think Target had it too, but I'm not sure.
@@Jennie-qy5ps I'll take a look, thanks
Don Bluth inspired so many independent artists and studios to dream big and work hard for their chance to shine (SPA studios is a modern successor I can think of).
Disney isn't even doing much 2D anymore, if any. My favorite films were actually the ones the company never talks about, like Atlantis or Treasure Planet, which were so out there and imaginative and funny. Either way, it shouldn't have a monopoly on movie magic. It shouldn't be a black hole swallowing up any competition.
I remember in my childhood, even though Disney movies were of course great to watch, DreamWorks (back when they did 2D) and Don Bluth movies were just as special if not more sometimes. I was really spoiled for choice, and that wouldn't have been as amazing if Disney was the only one that had been allowed to exist.
My favorite movie of all time is An American Tail.
I agree, when I was a kid in the 90s, my favorite animated movies were "The Lion King" and "The Land Before Time", As time passed in the late 90s and early 2000s it was a diverse market where there were animated films to choose from, it wasn't just Disney and I started to get to know Aardman and Studios Ghibli, which were also important films for me.
Disney's magic ended because of its monopoly 😢
"Bartok? Bardock? Bardock the Magnificent?"
Would be funny to see that one Saiyan as a magician in Otherworld, now that I think about it...
FRIEZAAAA!!!!
Ki blasts are sparkles and super saiyan glows like the sun.
It’s kinda depressing that Titan A.E. bombed so hard. I love that movie.
Even as a guy who didn’t see the movie myself, I enjoy the idea that movie has potential for and feel so bad that it failed so miserably
GojiraTX
So do I. Titan A.E. is actually pretty interesting and amazing. But I hate how "unsuccessful" movies like this get thrown under by most people just because they weren't financially successful. Which, goes to show that not all movies that don't make money are bad.
Titan A.E. and Treasure Planet are weird, estranged siblings, when you look at it.
I thought the movie was pretty good. Not one of my favorites but a good watch.
agreed
All dogs go to heaven is one of my all time fav movies so i wish it beat Disney
I love that movie too! It's so sentimental to me because I was so weird and cute and sometimes even creepy when I was little. Some people say the story is weird, I mean, yeah, it's a bunch of dogs gambling and one is killed and goes to heaven and cheats death and takes care of an orphan girl and befriends a super gay dummy thicc alligator but it's just fun and I love it. SUCK IT DISNEY
Imagine Bluth doing so much better if he stopped directly competing with Disney.
@Henrystrikesback I know haha, I didnt wanna give a full summary fo the movie. Lel
It’s straight up Socialism propaganda and I love it
mine too
My little brother had just turned 7 when "Land Before Time" was released. He became obsessed with the movie. I really think it helped prepare him for two years later when our mom was suddenly diagnosed with cancer and died shortly thereafter.
I saw his last film in cinema, Titan AE, and to be honest I loved it, for me is one of my favorites of him. I really am a nostalgic guy, and every time I remember Don Bluth and his films brings me a tear or two. For me and for the rest of the people that saw the magic of is animation, holds a special place in our hearts.
“Should’ve stayed with Spielberg” is one of the most Duh sentences I’ve ever heard
Nathan C I suspect there were creative differences
Yeah, because Spielbergs further animated Movies performed so much better. Don Bluth even managed to make 5 more movies, while Spielberg was only able to make 3 before his Animation Company went bankrupt and at least Bluth had a comeback hit, so no, he shouldnt have stayed with Spielberg actually.
I think the reason Don Bluth didn't "stayed" with Steven Spielberg and why Spielberg was not involved in the later Don Bluth films, was due to the fact that Spielberg and his company Amblin had more control and put guidelines during the production of An American Tail and The Land Before Time.
In fact, it was the latter film that caused Don Bluth to cut ties with Spielberg because Spielberg and George Lucas had to remove 10-15 minutes of the film (hence the 69 minute runtime) because they were deemed frightening to small children.
@@nanotek1416 I think the reason Don Bluth didn't want to be involved with Steven Spielberg in his later movies, was due to the fact that Spielberg and his company Amblin had more control in his previous films, An American Tail and The Land Before Time which Bluth found disagreeable.
In fact, it was the latter film that caused Don Bluth to not be involved with Steven Spielberg afterwards because Spielberg and George Lucas had to remove 10-15 minutes of The Land Before Time (hence the 69 minute runtime) because they were deemed frightening to small children.
Nano Tek they both didn’t do well in animated movies after that, but they did extremely well on what they did together
I would argue that Don Bluth motivated Disney to do better which made the Renaissance happen; Don Bluth should say, "You're welcome, Disney!"
true. particularly the failure of Oliver and Co. being beaten by An American Tail.
Nah. Disney should say, "Thank you, Don."
The failure of "The Black Cauldron" was Disney's real wakeup call. The fact is, Disney was headed for trouble even before Don Bluth started his own company; not only were the Disney creations becoming less ambitious, but they also settled for either copying Mary Poppins elements countless times, or they simply did a Dark Ages entry, assuming that these two elements alone would always sell the product. Many people joining Don Bluth already knew Disney's approach at the time wasn't going to work forever, and that was all the more reason for them to jump onboard elsewhere for something that strove to do more.
Disney needs another wake up call now.
he was robocop to disney's ed 209- lit a fire under their ass but this time ed was given better designed feet and maintained its assault.
And here I am with my favorite Don Bluth's
Rock a Doodle: The songs are absolutely amazing and I always adored Chanticleer and Uncle Dukey
American Tail: Lovely movie, gorgeous water effects
Land Before time: So terrifying but so sweet and funny
Titan: Coolest, damn space animation
Thumbelina: Such a beautiful movie with sweet, sweet songs
Anastasia: Gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous
So a part of me is upset some of my favorites were considered such failures - but then again one of disneys failures is one of my favorites of theirs "Treasure Planet"
This makes me a little sad. I remember this studio being just as much a part of my childhood as Disney movies. I didn't know the difference. To me, it was just magic. I'll definitely be purchasing these movies for my children some day.
Funny you didn't mention his depression/nervous breakdown following the murder of Judith Barsi.
I can understand why. What happened to that poor girl was horrible. Not that it was Bluth's fault whatsoever.
What? No way
Okay???... what!? Can someone tell me what happened??? 😱😰
Krista Bautzmann Judith was killed by her father at home and he committed suicide after that. Was really heartbreaking
@@KayleeCee Yeah, it wasn't his fault but when you are so close to an event like that, it must be impossible not to be affected by it.
It hit rock bottom, just like the time SpongeBob and Patrick got on the wrong bus
I *raspberry* couldn't agree *raspberry* more *raspberry*
ProfesserUniverse nice lol, the raspberry was on point haha.
Don Bluth is Spongebob and Steven Spielberg is Patrick.
@@tonymata8070 thanks 😆😆
I cant **pbfff** understand **pbfff** your accent **pbfff**
I was just thinking about Disney having those lackluster years before their Renaissance. Don Bluth filled the void.
Titan AE was amazing. My friends and I watched it all the time. We also bought the books and wrote fanfiction.
Didn't know there were people who still did that.
In the words of Arin Hanson: "Burbank California! Where dreams are crushed. Come on down!"
Netizpossible arin crushed his own dreams and now he’s a hollow shell of a once great animator.
Burbank California were you can find a gun store- there's a couple
@@zerotodona1495
Hollow shell maybe, but I still think he's genuinely funny.
I'm not always gonna yern for "the old days" cause it makes me less open to the new days imo. But I get where you're coming from.
I watch their live stuff like 10-minute power hour as opposed to regular GG cause I find it more interesting and entertaining.
"Maybe because kids think dinosaurs are cooler than Billy Joel.." XDDDDD
With Jurassic Park I wouldn’t be surprised
Funny enough, I loved that movie as a kid. Both of them.
Tricky. Both are pretty close in competition
Oh cool, I just noticed on imdb that a Dragons Lair movie is announced! I wish Don Bluth the best of luck on his first full length movie in a long time.
So who made "Secret of Nim 2" or did i just imagine the rat concentration camps
Hitler
Wait w h a t
I wanna see that :0
That's a thing??
Dunno who made it but it appeared on the Disney channel many years ago. It is terrible, and I wish it didn't exist.
That was a stand-alone effort from MGM's relatively short-lived second animation department- it was helmed by eventual direct-to-DVD mainstays Paul Sabella and Johnathan Dern (seriously, most of their post-MGM work involved the Bratz dolls). It did a few TV shows (including one for All Dogs Go to Heaven- they also did the theatrical 1996 sequel, with no Bluth involvement- and one called The Lionhearts, where William H. Macy was one of the leads), but ultimately tapered off production before shutting down in 2000. Afterwards, they've done some involvement in animation, with "Igor", "Sherlock Gnomes", and "The Addams Family", all CGI.
Poor Judith Barsi. She voiced many of Don's characters and died tragically.
She only voiced 2 still it is sad
It's all because of her stupid abusive dad!
She only voiced 2 characters, but she wanted to keep working for Don Bluth for years to come. Sadly, her life was taken too soon. :(
Judith's dad was so evil! Killing his own daughter and wife! F*cking horrible!
😭😭😭😭 She would be *42* now
Titan AE was incredible and insanely underrated.
PLANET BOB!!
Right!
is a fond part of my childhood, that's for sure
And also it was have a really spacey look8ng animation .
Wait
Wait wait wait wait
THAT'S A DON BLUTH MOVIE?!
Actually, Max and Dave Fleischer were Disney's first REAL Rivals, dating from 1928 all the way up to Fleischer Studio's dissolution in 1942.
You could say the same thing for Looney Tunes too. Looked up that company and seems they are known for Popeye and Betty Boop and although they are classics it seems the company itself only made 2 feature length animated films, of which don't seem very noteworthy to be considered competition for Disney's early hit classics. This topic specifically is really talking about animated films, not so much animated series.
I watched "Thumbelina" and "The Pebble and the Penguin" so many times as a child that I still remember the songs (same with "All Dogs Go to Heaven" and "Land Before Time," but the first two I watched waaay more). They were as much a part of my childhood as Disney.
Weird to hear the history behind those movies.
We missed out on so much by Don's failure. His animation was gorgeous.
I paid to see Titan A.E in the cinema...or my Dad did. It may have flopped but not in my heart, I loved it and love it until this day.
Same here. Also, the sountrack is *_fantastic._*
I loved it, too! I still rock out to the soundtrack. I bought the book, too!
Just because a movie flops, doesn't make it bad. I love Titan A.E too. Another criminally underrated animated film is "The Fearless Four" (1997) it deserves more awareness than it has.
Look at critic reviews for it my personal favorite is A STAR WAR'S RIPP OFF someone got paid to write that VERY INACCURATE single sentence as a full review it got destroyed by critics almost as if they were bribed to say it's awful but oddly enough every user review praised the movie I've seen this before my advice don't trust critics multiple user reviews normally gives a good idea of what your gunna get those professionals know nothing more than you and me
Titan AE has some incredible visuals, amazing soundtrack, interesting characters, but a weak story overall. I certainly don't feel it got a fair shake from critics and I'm kinda surprised it hasn't gained more of a cult following.
I remember being amused, charmed and terrified by The Little Mermaid, but An American Tail was the very first film I recall seeing in the cinema. It was Don Bluth, not Disney, who introduced me to a night at the movies.
I feel like Don Blueth is an inspiration and a cautionary tale to anyone who wants to tackle on such professions in the world.
Best of luck to all you fellow writers, animator, artist and everything else under the sun
when you realize Secret of NIMH is 37 years old._.
Don Bluth doing the animation
Jerry Goldsmith doing the music.
'nough said!
When you realize it's only 7 years older than you ;~;
@@rachael1090 HAHA! I won't tell you how old I am and I loved this movie. Hint: I'm older... much older... than the movie.
You what
I loved that movie. It's a pretty dark book too, I highly recommend reading it.
I love how he was like “and these failures” and I loved ALL those crappy movies as a kid 😂😂😂
Yes!! The pebble and the penguin and rock a doodle are two of my absolute favorites!!
@@user-px6hz6ex4c I liked the Troll in Central Park
Same here!!! Haha loved them all!
@@Kakachi07 I think the reason I didn't like the troll in central park that much was because I had one of those big baby doll sized troll dolls, I wanted it sooo bad and got it for Christmas one year. One night I had a nightmare that it had this demonic face and glowing red eyes and I got rid of all my troll dolls and didn't want to have anything to do with trolls anymore lmao. But most all of Don Bluth's movies were my absolute favorite as a kid... all dogs go to heaven & the land before time... I wore out those 2 VHS tapes!!
The best animated movies and shows are the ones you can watch again as an adult.
Don Bluth was a Truly amazing artist, and story teller. I'm kinda sad we dont have More works like that comming out now.
Nice profile pic
Rest in peace, Judith Barsi.
"What Ruined Don Bluth Animations?"
The 90's
It's always that cursed decade
the reason why is that the creator of the studio fucking LIES to us
Yes, Toy Story, Bug’s Life, and Nightmare before Christmas killed him. 3D animation is now the way of life!
Stefan Unson
Unfortunately.
I loved the old fashioned way of animating.
@Peruano ML except that now we have 3D that looks 2d in spiderverse and 2D that looks like 3D in Klaus, and thas't really great
I ADORED Rock-a-Doodle as a kid. I'm not saying it was a GOOD movie, but I loved the hell out of it.
Caldella same! I wouldn’t call it a bad movie 🤷🏾♀️
kids with gobots probably liked those too...as long as they never saw a transformer...
Very few people make that distinction with things they like; good on you.
I like Rock-a-Doodle too, just not the ending..
It’s been 15 years or so since I first saw Rock A Doodle and it and Thumbelina are still two of my fondest childhood movies. They aren’t perfect but I rewatch them quite frequently. They bring back wonderful memories!!
I actually like Great Mouse Detective. I love Basil and Vincent Price's favorite role. And it got Disney enough movie to start the Renaissance. Plus critical clean for pushing the barriers of animation again. That clock tower scene is amazing
"So what's Don doing nowadays?" He was in a Nostalgia Critic review :p
"Bad" Don Bluth movies are still impressive from a technical standpoint, and I've never seen one I genuinely didn't like. In fact, I grew up loving Rock-A-Doodle. The story was flawed, but the voice talent involved was excellent, the music was catchy and I still get laughs from the Duke's nephew.
Justin Oakes CHANTICLEER!!!
... i remember really liking the pebble and the penguin, haven't seen in ages now though
Exactly!!!! Rock-A-Doodle is one of my favorite movies ever! I still watch it to this day! I know very line and song by heart.
Me too! It was definitely one of my absolute favorites when I was a kid. Some of those scenes like the storm were just the right amount of scary for little me! I was surprised to learn as an adult that it was considered a failure! That vhs ran through my vcr enough times to make up for the failure elsewhere in my mind!
Titan AE is like Treasure Planet, a good movie that most people just never saw
I agree
It is a flawed movie though, most of the characters are useless, the pacing is bad with way to much happening at the very end, the traitors feel shoehorned and the 3D makes the film feel very dated
Easily a 6/10 but they needed an 11 to survive
A LOT of people have seen Treasure Planet at this point. It's probably one of the most talked about Disney films of that era at this point.
Never saw Treasure Planet, but Titan A.E. was great. Unfortunate more people didn’t see it.
i'd say Titan A.E. is like Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. 2 really good movies that just got swept under the rug and never had a chance to really shine. though id say sky captain beats titan as better movie.
It’s interesting that even some of the movies you listed as failures are ones that stood out to me as a kid. Was I a big Simba and Ariel fangirl? Of course. But I also watched and rewatched The Land Before Time, An American Tail, All Dogs Go to Heaven, Thumbalina, Rock-a-doodle, and even The Pebble and the Penguin! (As a teen/adult I love Titan AE) My fam had a sizable VHS collection and blockbuster was big at the time. These aren’t movies I saw in theatre, these are movies my dad bought once and I watched over and over. What’s more interesting is that I would actually LOVE to rewatch them as an adult, or get copies of them remastered for a new generation. If Don Bluth/Fox/Steven Spielberg/etc could get them on a streaming platform, or re-release them, I think they’d probably do really well for a generation nostalgic for their childhoods, wanting to show the same movies to their kids.
Anastasia was good partially because Fox controled the creation process. Bluth apparently didn't like Anastasia's idea, but they rejected all his other ideas.
Don Bluth had more of an impact on my early childhood than Disney. Secret of Nimh is one of my favorites of all time.
And I loved Titan AE. It actually feels like a prequel to Firefly concept-wise
both Titan and Firefly would have really taken off if only people had known about it and could see it. Titan, (like Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow), being just nobody watched it and Firefly for inconsistencies with times shown and the channel it was shown on cause the channels all had their roster and could not really fit firefly in well.
I wouldn't go that far to prove a point, they both had a very strong impact on my childhood. I mean I have good memories growing up watching Don's movies and I have great ones with disney even. When ur a kid it's not about the numbers or sales or who the movies are made by, we just loved watching them because it made us happy to..we didnt care about wat was better or more enjoyable to watch is wat I mean. When your a child we get something from the cartoons we watch that adults just dont get. Again their about competing against each other and I think they both did a good job and yes I will say now as an adult obviously nothing can beat disney, that'll never happen and that's ok because don comes next and that's a good thing 🙂💯. Don's movies are just as good, a cartoon is a cartoon kids love watching them because of the story 😁👍🏼....our imagination does the rest ❤😊.
Susan A. Hubbard my early childhood was full of all dogs go to heaven, the secret of nymh, and lastly American tale
@@thatguybrody4819 I'm so happy I'm not the only person who knows about Sky Capetian.
@@MrNewElvis ye
All Dogs Go to Heaven one and two (along with a lot of animal-based films like Balto and Cats Don't Dance) are one of the major reasons I got into drawing when I was younger. I'll never forget them
Can’t believe it’s been ten years since Dom DeLuise passed away.
@@angelcastaneda529 Right? His voice was iconic for good ol' Itchy. R.I.P Dom Deluise
And also Tiger from An American Tail. That’s my personal favorite.
Well think of this.
There is a parallel universe where Burt Reynolds reprised his roll as charlie
@Juan Cortez Muro Jesus Christ, how many of these comments did you put out here, you annoying shank?
The Dragon's Lair Indiegogo was a pitch reel that was then going to be pitched around to studios to get further funding. He released it to his backers a few years ago. Maybe it's floating around online, but rough animation was made for some action scenes, and clean animation was made for the more casual walking and standing scenes. Being able to see a bit of completed animation from Don Bluth's team honestly made it all worth it. It's one thing for a person to have a distinct design style, but to also have a distinct animation style is unforgettable. I hope his pitch, or any other pitch, is successful one day.
'The Secret of Nimh' is one of my favorite book to movie adaptations! My Mom let us watch it when my sister and I were both sick( amongst other amazing movies like 'The Littles' and 'Quest for Camelot') and it played non-stop on our TV untill it wasn't on Netflix anymore.
I don’t think anyone ever claimed “Anastasia” was supposed to be historically accurate. Hell, the movie doesn’t even get the freaking *dates* right. It’s some historical facts blended with rumor and fairy tale elements.
And it totally rocks. I will fight anyone on this.
Curiously, very few people who shit on Anastasia and call it one of Bluth's at best mediocre entries (compared to that inconsistent, drab and dull shitfest that All Dogs was, while also boasting probably the worst score in the history of mainstream animation?) provide any reasons beyond the historical inaccuracies. Okay, so Anastasia does not follow facts-what's next? It still has great songs, interesting characters, superb animation and probably the best written romance I've seen in a cartoon. And it has so many scenes that just get me every single time: Anya reuniting with the Empress, Dmitry realizing she's the princess, him refusing the money for her retrieval...
True, Rasputin is a lame villain and overall the whole magic subplot seems out of place and forced just to create some kind of legitimate threat-tellingly, the biggest change in the Broadway adaptation was ditching Rasputin altogether in favor of a Cheka agent. But aside from that Anastasia has every right to be included among Bluth's greatest works to date.
@@yarpen26 I've never liked Anastasia, even though I enjoy watching the musical numbers. They're some of the best. But it's entirely because of the of the out of place villain. He had some cool visuals and a nice song, so it's even more annoying that he fits into the plot so poorly and has no character depth and his sidekick ruins the dark atmosphere at every opportunity.
I think of it as Bluth's worst good movie. I can actually sit through it, unlike All Dogs, which always loses my interest halfway through, and his bad movies which are completely unwatchable. It just drives me so crazy that it had the potential to be a completely awesome movie, but screwed up by including the lame villain, who himself showed potential to be genuinely cool and scary if he had been developed better and put in a different film! It ruins the movie for me. It's like I'm being majorly let down every time I watch it, getting glimpses of what could have been, then being denied when medieval monk-robe and his bat appear on screen.
It also annoys me that Anastasia's hairstyles make no sense. Is her hair short or long? Elsa's hair bugs the crap out of me too. No me gusta illogical hairstyle changes.
@@FrogsForBreakfast Ironically, Rasputin and Bartok seem to more or less resemble Jafar and Yago's personalities in the first drafts of Aladdin, where Jafar was supposed to be this yelling and always complaining , semi-pathetic asshole while Yago went out of his way trying to calm him down. Good thing it didn't end up this way in the final movie.
Yeah I recall Russia not giving a flip.
My general rule of thumb is if the ethnicity/race of origin doesn't care, it's not actually offensive. It's what separates this from something like Pocahontas.
yarpen26 - I didn’t find Rasputin that bad, I think the weird humor of his body rotting saved him as a villain. But I definitely see where you’re coming from, I find the villain from Disney’s The Princess and the Frog annoying and think the movie would be better off without him.
Give this man a Netflix series. Even if it's just a executive producer.
YES! It would be much better than most other animated stuff there.
the old guard made an amazing prequel to The Dark Crystal, so I'm inclined to agree. By now there are tons of people around who want to make the absolute best Don Bluth style movie possible.
Dragons lair Netflix series yeah
Imagine if it gone to Cartoon Network boy that will bombed if cn had the rights
I remember liking Pebble and the Penguin, with all the talk in this video about it makes me want to go back and watch it. See if it's all nostalgia.
Really nice! The Secret of NIMH is one of my favorite movies ever, especially because I've watched it with my already gone grandmother. And Don Bluth is an inspiration for me: I'm an artist and animator, and I wanna create a good animation movie someday with passion and love like he does.
as an artist myself, I can testify that, sometimes having someone to hold you back and prevent you from spending tons and tons of time and money on projects, is very much needed in most cases, when you let a creative person take the lead, well, let's just say we have a tendency to shoot for the stars, while forgetting to keep a ladder under our feet.
Richard Williams learned this the hard way.
Don Bluth was the Peter Molyneux of the animation industry!
datore sometimes you've got to stop wanting so much and just do your job
Ironic being that _The Great Mouse Detective_ is allegedly the film that saved Disney from bankruptcy.
I'd love to see him do an adaptation of one of the _Redwall_ books or a Mouseguard module.
The great mouse detective is my favourite Disney movie 🐀
Aleksandra Abrahamowicz ME TOO. A THOUSAND TIMES ME TOO.
Omg you're right!!! I'd love for Don to put more darker themes on Redwall
Does Don Bluth Productions still exist?
I want someone to make a video titled, 'The history behind The Velveteen Rabbit. Don Bluth's unfinished masterpiece for New Line Cinema.'
Have you covered "Little Nemo: Adventures in Slumberland" it's such a fever dream of a movie for me. I saw it as a kid but then could never remember the name, or how to find it so I thought I made it up with parts of my imagination. I was so happy to eventually find it. I had reoccurring dreams from that movie. That door to nightmare land. The sublime, the uncanny, eerie, yet fantastical. I didn't realize how much it played a role in shaping my style and aesthetic choices.
I never realized that this man was responsible for every movie that I’ve enjoyed as a child. Thanks to Bluth wherever he is.
Saber it's funny that you mention Don needed a good business manager because I'm a computer animation/game development major, and we NEVER prioritized business in ANY way, shape, or form. We prioritized animation and technique....but we never learned HOW to PROPERLY get into the industry....let alone how to properly START our own business. Don Bluth is a symbol of the shit show that goes down in animation business. You'd be surprised at how many people in the animation industry have a lack of business common sense......
Wholeheartedly agree! Artists learn HOW to create, but not quite WHAT to do with the creation. Maybe this is why everyone says you can't do shit with an art degree....
More art schools _definitely_ need to teach the business side of the graphic art industry.
I went to Ringling for illustration back in 2003-2007 and it was an anomaly that they actually required a business of illustration class for all the seniors that taught us about branding for ourselves, marketing, job hunting, interviews, leave-behind books, clamshell portfolios, agents, taxes, contracts, and pricing. It's ridiculously important and not many schools cover it!
And as an aside, that class produced one of my favorite quotes from the two profs who jointly taught the class: "We're here to tell all of you how _we_ got fucked over so you can avoid them and find _new_ ways to get fucked over. Because all of you _will_ get fucked over at least once in your careers."
@@TheGoldenDunsparce Honestly a lot of people who say that don't actually know what all you can do with one, because it's a _lot._ The graphic art industry is really diverse in what all you can do and just how many different companies and sub industries you can work within. Basically anyplace that needs imagery for any reason at all, all the way down to the CIA. (One of the illustration grads a few years ahead of me at Ringling was hired by the CIA to illustrate their training manuals.)
Makes me wish that there was a way to add some art business classes as a part of attaining an AA or certificate in college. I've been in (and I'm still in) some classes for making art and I've heard of classes for businesses, but I've never heard of a class that combines them together...🤨🧐🤔
See while i’m not in the industry, that is a MASSIVE industry hole. Because honestly, there are some top tier artist who wind up staying amateur because they don’t have the where with-all to angle themselves in the industry. Hell, I know just plain artist that would benefit from that.
So yea, either find a business assistant or someone who knows a lot about managing funds so you don’t over do it. Although, I gotta say, there isn’t much by means of training for us either (historian here).
Getting back to his love of Snow White, I always thought the little girl in “All Dogs Go to Heaven” Looks like a child version of Snow White in her rags dress.
I would absolutely love to see a biopic movie of Don Bluth. His story is so fascinating
Funnily enough, all of my favorites of his were the "failures". All dogs go to heaven, rockadoodle, and thumbalina.
Wendy McCoy Thumbalina 🥰
Same, plus Titan.
All dogs go to heaven will always be my favourite
All dogs go to Heaven is my dads favorite movie, making it a favorite to me too. It doesn't deserve its fate
Take that you simp
Lol