Life's purpose and the problem of futility

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  • @natanmandala
    @natanmandala 4 роки тому +2

    Ecclesiastes was one of the first books that I read too, and is one of the main reasons I am, who I am today. There is nothing new under the sun, but the ARTS is the only thing that we can create different pieces of work with. Humans and nature does not change...SBN

  • @OtubeShalhoub
    @OtubeShalhoub 4 роки тому +1

    "When you know why a child builds the sandcastle on the beach, even though he knows it's futile, then you understand everything you could possibly know about the meaning of life"
    Best thing I heard for a very long time
    Thanks

  • @BabakPA
    @BabakPA 4 роки тому

    This video is very powerful. Thanks for sharing

  • @psycronizer
    @psycronizer 6 років тому +1

    4:12...
    Darryl..good talk..very good...when you say we must be looking at it all wrong, well, I'd say that life itself IS pretty much pointless, as harsh as that sounds, I mean, it is just a matter of probability that the nature of certain molecules got together and react in their specific ways...a lucky accident of sorts..just a property of matter. Primordial earth had all the amino acids and surface chemistry going on inside clay etc etc....it may take another five hundred years or more but I have no doubt that sooner or later a probable pathway will be identified that leads to the creation of simple, but replicating, organic molecules that by their very nature are subject to the laws of natural selection, and perhaps other, as yet unidentified directors of chemical processes, I dread to think what this information might precipitate in terms of the religious fanatics...what you said about your life....I'm sure that resonates with a very large percentage of people, myself included, when the chips are down it is very easy to look around and take stock of how crappy life can be..I've just gone back into the workforce as a factory worker after six years of sitting on my arse, basically, I hate it, but of course I need to be there to live. I despise the way the world is set up, how we work 5 days and have 2 off, it seems crazy to me, as does paying basically for the rest of your working life just to have a piece of dirt and a box that you live in...it's geared to keep us forever working till we drop, or close to it. When I hear of people who basically opt out, and end it, for whatever reason, and people agonize over why they do it, I think there's plenty of reason's why and I'd never call anyone a coward for taking that option. I heard it said by quite a few people that at some point in their lives they have considered ending it, and not just because of some reaction to a specific event....it is true though that being sentient is a great achievement I suppose with many benefits but it also inevitably carries with it the very thing you are talking about, the futility of knowing that it is going to end and you have zero control over it. I wonder, given perfect health etc etc, how long most human's could live for, before they finally came to the realization, that they had, had enough...and wanted to stop....500 years ?...a thousand ?...what is it going to be like on the minds of future people who CAN choose to significantly extend their lives ? maybe it might work out that it creates an even stronger desire to live on, or rather a more acute fear of oblivion ?...guess we will never know !...

  • @assassinaria
    @assassinaria 4 роки тому

    The biggest mystery to me is this: everything in the universe tends towards its own destruction. Everything except for life.
    All living things will work towards preserving its life. Why?
    Is this because we animals help the universe destroy matter? Or is this because we are matter that has mutated to work towards preserving itself?

  • @lobintool
    @lobintool 6 років тому

    Aways a pleasure to listening to your musings about meta -physics, Not sure if I understand them all but keep them coming..my sanity depends upon it!

  • @cameonashipleftonaplane698
    @cameonashipleftonaplane698 4 роки тому

    Oh yeah I know I found something that holds my interest this guy is the truth new subscriber

  • @LilachLavy-Emanuel
    @LilachLavy-Emanuel 6 років тому

    I just LOVE your perspective

  • @iiirwtiii
    @iiirwtiii 6 років тому

    Great video, Darryl. Thank you.

  • @FraterOculus
    @FraterOculus 6 років тому +1

    Meaning is a symbolic product of intellect, and intellect is subsumed by being. There is nothing separate from being to give any kind of reflective answer upon being. Intellect inseparable from being is casting a symbol or word onto the being which it is a part of, and that is it. Meaning is whatever linguistic response you have to apparent movement and disparity in being

    • @FraterOculus
      @FraterOculus 6 років тому

      See, I just invented my own semi-nonsense lingo and created my own meaning by using a group of symbols used to classify something. Meaning is just the interpretation of reality, which is a subjective phenomenon. Meaning is whatever I ascribe to it, and maybe didn't communicate the intended message at all, but you ascribe a meaning to it also. Meaning is a human phenomenon, so how can meaning be ascribed to being, which contains humans but is not itself human? Being is vast beyond meaning and subsumes meaning

    • @FraterOculus
      @FraterOculus 6 років тому

      Yeah, we can't seem to be free from "how to live." Life takes care of itself, our problem comes from "living"

  • @kenmcnutt2
    @kenmcnutt2 6 років тому

    Darryl you are so freaking brilliant. I'll never understand why you aren't more well known. You even threw in some good bits of science in this video. Besides for the heat death of the universe, and the Big Crunch, there is one more possibility: the Big Rip. Also, it's easy to combine your idea of time with relativity. If two people are not moving, their "time slices" will be the same. Two people moving at different speeds will have different time slices (at angles to one another instead of parallel and overlapping). Getting rid of those pictures is bullshit though, and not for sentimental reasons. We shouldn't be in the business of erasing history. We learn from the past.

    • @kenmcnutt2
      @kenmcnutt2 6 років тому

      ua-cam.com/video/H1WfFkp4puw/v-deo.html I'm not describing an interpretation. I'm describing the actual science, but that's fine. You and I seem to disagree on science more than anything.

    • @kenmcnutt2
      @kenmcnutt2 6 років тому

      "Relativity fits with more than one theory of time." I don't think that statement is true. I don't want to place words in your mouth, but it seems as though you subscribe to philosophical presentism. Although that is our subjective experience, that is because we aren't moving very fast with respect to each other. If one of us were moving at an extremely high speed, our "nows" would be objectively different, but would feel the same subjectively. I find your videos on time very entertaining to watch, but I've never heard you talk about how those views would fit with relativity. No offense, but I don't think they would in an objective way, only subjectively (which isn't a problem since most of what you talk about is people being points of subjective consciousness within a larger interconnected system). The universe doesn't have one universal objective "now". It all depends on frame of reference.

    • @kenmcnutt2
      @kenmcnutt2 6 років тому

      I agree with everything you just said except that if you froze time for the universe, it would have implications from a relativistic point of view. Namely, the universe would have only one frame of reference when normally that's the furthest thing from reality. It's because everything is in motion that a universal objective state of time doesn't exist. I don't think that your mind experiment proves what you think it proves, and just because we understand that time from a subjective stand point remains the same, it doesn't mean that an objective standard of time exists (maybe if you could observe from outside the universe, but that's getting too metaphysical for me).

    • @kenmcnutt2
      @kenmcnutt2 6 років тому

      At least I understand what your point is now.

  • @spidergoose891
    @spidergoose891 5 років тому

    The heat death and big crunch are the same thing...

    • @darrylsloan
      @darrylsloan  5 років тому

      No, the former refers to energy reaching therodynamic equilibrium, the latter to gravitational collapse.

    • @spidergoose891
      @spidergoose891 5 років тому

      @@darrylsloan gravitational collapse would cause heat death until the next big bang

  • @dangray9536
    @dangray9536 5 років тому

    Nothing means anything and we're all gonna die

    • @darrylsloan
      @darrylsloan  5 років тому

      No, everything means something for the time in which it means something. Impermanence doesn't rob anything of meaning. Impermanence is a consequence of change. And ongoing change (including death and facilitating evolution) is necessary for there to be anything meaningful at all.

    • @dangray9536
      @dangray9536 5 років тому

      @@darrylsloan thanks for clarifying

  • @spidergoose891
    @spidergoose891 5 років тому +1

    13.7 billion years late?...this cycle...there's no way to know how late we are ... we could be the 10,000th cycle that evolved into humans.

  • @schrishzen
    @schrishzen 6 років тому

    I’m with you on the time thing

  • @gretaboulet4364
    @gretaboulet4364 6 років тому

    /Very well put. But since energy can't be destroyed can we not hope for another life in another universe?

  • @berkansevindik7965
    @berkansevindik7965 6 років тому

    What exactly is play ? What exactly is a point ?

  • @TheBigfoot2013
    @TheBigfoot2013 6 років тому

    Hi Darryl, interesting video. I agree with you on futility of life of any living creature. Nonetheless I think our planet is a beautiful miracle and I believe nature conservation is one of the most important things. I deeply upsets me how humans destroy nature. However as you mentioned earth and its nature will be destroyed at some point. So I would like to no your opinon on nature conservation. Do you think protecting nature or destroying it is equally selfish?
    Kind regards from Germany!

  • @crossman3940
    @crossman3940 6 років тому

    Tesla thought all thing's where light and we return to a previous state of light . I quite like the thought of this .

  • @lobintool
    @lobintool 6 років тому +1

    ok this .... might not make sense but here goes:
    It's my attempt at poetry but probably a shit one but I'll give it a turn anyway:
    All you have to do is hold your nerve.
    To manifest what you deserve,
    It really is quite simple
    When you know it's paradoxical
    We know all we need to know already
    There is nothing new under the Sun!
    Make Peace with where ever you are
    And surrender to whatever may come.
    Enough is Enough already...but forget trying to win.
    And don't fall into the trap of original sin
    It's much easier tha you think
    When you find the missing link
    Just let govand allow
    Que Sera Sera..whatever will be will be...you don't need to know how!
    There is no "one size fits all"
    There is no going back
    The past is done and dusted
    It's just out of whack
    There maybe many truths none of which are true
    Not sure how it works nut maybe just maybe
    We are all connected, you and me!
    Don't try to follow my logic
    It doesn't make any sense to me
    Believing in a god I don't believe in is knocking on the door of insanity.
    Who knows what is really going on?
    We all have ideas and we could all be wrong!
    Anything is possible, it could be quite simple.
    The solution could be meta-physiical.
    I'm no here to tell you what to believe..that is non of my business. I'm not even here to tell you what I believe either

  • @lobintool
    @lobintool 6 років тому +1

    Wow! I wasn't expecting that. Is this what "serendipity" is all about? I've been lobbing my thoughts out on various sites (mainly to do the the "Law of Attraction" malarkey) from which the standard get out response is "If it doesn't work it all your own fault"
    Anyway I've never come across anyone who quoted my own words back to me and responded to my concerns in the way you did. I'm not sure that you have all the answers and I'm pretty sure you don't profess to have them but that doesn't matter. It was enough that you made the effort and I'm so grateful to you for making it. Many thanks!

  • @MattL-zb7zc
    @MattL-zb7zc 6 років тому

    Did you watch the UA-cam video I sent you? It was regarding that there is no time slices stacked one next to the other but rather one person’s past could be another’s future depending on distance of location across the universe basically demonstrating relativity. It used a loaf of bread as an example. I sent it on fb messenger.

    • @MattL-zb7zc
      @MattL-zb7zc 6 років тому

      Darryl Sloan Relativity means time is relative and demonstrates time dilation i.e. the faster you move approaching the speed of light the slower you would move in time (age much slower than earthlings) and vice versa if you were to move slower than earth rotates in some space station somewhere you would age rapidly and probably die much sooner according to people on earth but to the individual time and 80 years seems to move the same no matter where you are but if u were to come back to earth you would either be much older or much younger than your family and friends.

    • @MattL-zb7zc
      @MattL-zb7zc 6 років тому

      Darryl Sloan yes over vast distances of space it is possible if a person or entity billions of miles away was to be traveling either away from our planet or towards us at a small difference of speed faster than we are. That little bit of time dilation of time slowing down would make a huge difference over many and many miles/kilometers in space and if they could visually see what was happening on earth at any giving time when they were either peddling towards or away from us it would be hundreds of years in difference than what the being standing very close to them would agree on if there other counter part would say is the present time on earth to them if moving in different directions from earth or at different speeds.
      In other words they would constantly be disagreeing on what the present moment is on earth from their focal point is to one another depending on directionality and speed they are traveling in their area or world across the universe.

    • @MattL-zb7zc
      @MattL-zb7zc 6 років тому

      Darryl Sloan Yes time dilation and time not running the same all over is a paradox because going by our common sense a minute is a minute all over but as we now know Einstein’s two theories of special and general relativity prove that ain’t true.

  • @lobintool
    @lobintool 6 років тому

    Anyway I'm not religious nor ever have been but I watched your video about the Buddhist Retreat and that sort of makes sense because Buddhism isn't a religion. Hope that makes sense!

  • @emmanottingham6233
    @emmanottingham6233 6 років тому

    Hi Darryl. When you talk about attachment, how do you make people change their mindset about this? I sometimes work with people who are hoarders. Been into properties where they are roof to floor with stuff they have saved rubbish and all sorts of other things. Mental health are crap at dealing with this tbh. I don't really have any answers of how to help them want to throw things away. Have tried to take a bag of stuff away for one hour then bring it back to see how it makes them feel but it's like no no no u can't take it! Any advice would be great......Also it seems to be a pattern of hoarders that they have lost "people" in life or don't have a lot of people in their lives.

  • @cash1927
    @cash1927 6 років тому

    Hey Darryl, is there anywhere I can get my hands on the films you guys made? I recently moved house and the copies I had have gone missing. Thanks in advance.

  • @a_name_a
    @a_name_a 6 років тому

    Your view of time fits with relativity. Relativity only says that the rate of physical reactions is relative, ie 2 seconds for 1 frame of reference is 1 second for another frame of reference. The 4 dimensionality of space time only arises when solving physics problems, because the whole point of physics is to predict a future, and to do so you need a reference point t initial. This doesn't not mean time has slices. I feel alot of Physicists have become so blinded by the math they do, that as soon as they see the variable t they count it as a dimension you could traverse, when in reality it's only there to help us make predictions.
    To expand upon your view of time. I believe , while the rate of physical processes in the universe are relative to ones motion and acceleration, they all occur instantaneously. You need some sort of consiousness and memory system to be able to preceive time. Think about it, how long is 2 seconds? For a hummingbird or fly it's alot longer than it is for us. The rate at which time is preceived depends on the information flow to the conscious observer. It doesn't make sense to talk about how long 13.7 billion years is if there is no consiousness. Yes it is equal to n number of oscillations of a cesium atom, but how long is that?? I hope I'm making sense.

  • @Neccronix
    @Neccronix 6 років тому +3

    I had a strong mental image of a spaceman standing on the bridge of his spaceship, yelling profusely at a black hole; "I MATTER!"

  • @wx811
    @wx811 6 років тому

    Theories change over time. When you speak of the heat death of the universe (which I've never heard of until now) it's really just a theory. If you accept a theory as fact then you're obviously not a scientist, or at least not in a clear understanding of the scientific method. And even scientific method is limited, because it was created by man, and not the universe.
    My point is that theory explains a law, it isn't the law itself. If you consider heat death as law or fact then you're not truly understanding the truth. We know certain radiation happens as a result of certain testing and data, but then we try to explain that that will create an effect, which is called a theory. And theory changes based on data change.
    The scientific method is flawed from trying to create fact. Science to create something useful is certainly good, but trying to explain why or how something happens is really kind of dumb to be honest. We haven't even been out in the entire universe, we haven't even left our own solar system, so obviously we have absolutely no idea what the universe is, or how it works. All we have is our data on our planet, which is like an atom in the many in the universe, and is purely insignificant when trying to understand something beyond where we've traveled, which, in reality, is our own planet.
    As far as purpose goes, every human being is self-aware. This creates a curiosity as to where we come from. Other animals probably do this as well, we just have a language barrier. We don't speak like birds, or like dogs, so we can't ask them what they think about the universe. But language isn't just a human thing, it's universal. Why would birds chirp if they weren't trying to communicate?
    Purpose is the same with any self-aware creature. We naturally are curious about all this, which is why we even come up with theories like heat death and stuff like that, because we are curious. We've tried to understand it for ages, but never gotten anywhere. I don't think getting rid of that curiosity is good, because we wouldn't advance as a race. I personally think that purpose is an evolutionary tool to evolve the species, and grow the ability to survive, rather than a spiritual thing or something that should be ignored altogether. Curiosity grows the human race, it's a genius way nature gives us a way to grow and evolve. You act like purpose is negative, and yet you wouldn't make this video if you didn't have purpose. If you had no purpose you'd naturally sit there and just die. It's useless from an evolutionary point of view to stay static. As we grow and find new ways to survive, we need more and more purpose. This curiosity isn't negative, as you seem to think it is, it is actually completely necessary for survival.
    Those are my thoughts. Just used basic logic to come out with those answers, but even then they may be incomplete. Not saying I'm perfectly correct, but I believe I make a good point.

    • @wx811
      @wx811 6 років тому

      well, as I said I'd never heard of that theory until now. But if it's based off of basic laws of physics, then it would make sense to some degree. I'm not familiar with this theory, as I said, but I know basic scientific method, and usually theory is the explanation for a law, not as something which uses law as the explanation. I'm just using my basic knowledge of scientific method here. I've never heard of law being used to explain a theory, because theory itself is what is normally used to explain a law. This is a new concept that I believe might be modern scientific method, but what I learned about it is exactly as I've laid out.
      It does make sense using a law to explain a theory, and therefore will make it more plausible. It's just I've never heard of this being done in basic scientific method, so I naturally disagreed.
      I'm not trying to be argumentative, I love your videos mate. You make plenty of sense, and I consider you the philosophical type, thinking about things before you come out with a conclusion. Some things I naturally agree with, like the end of the universe (nothing has to be something in the end, just the fact that our universe exists proves that it's eternal, because "nothing" exists as "something" naturally. What you're saying is that the universe will go back into the void, which we know is certainly true, based on basic laws of gravity and the law of disorder [everything moves towards disorder], but in general the universe as matter won't exist, but the void will, because "nothing" exists as "something") while other things I tend to disagree with. But I believe that you at least think before you speak, and I respect that.
      I've also been thinking about this kind of stuff for years. I'm only 22, but I've debunked time travel in five minutes and basically debunked other theories in similar times (I don't remember these, but they've been long since gone in the scientific community). I like to keep things a simple as possible, therefore giving me the best time and effort usage possible to figure it out. This gives me the ability to figure out things like time travel (Time is essentially the measurement of the sun going across the sky during the day. This is the origin of "time". Therefore time travel doesn't exist, because time doesn't exist as an "entity" in the universe). I keep it simple, but never oversimplify, and always figure things out quite quickly.
      I think it's great that science is beginning to use basic laws of nature as the tool for creating theories. It's a step in the right direction. Sorry if I came across as argumentative, I didn't intend that. I only was bringing forth my own personal knowledge.
      Anyway, sorry to take up so much of your time. It's certainly nice to hear back from you.

  • @lobintool
    @lobintool 6 років тому

    Hello Darryl, thanks for responding to my comments, your slant on what is going on resonates with me but if I could just ramble on a bit on about what does or does not make sense to me I'd be interested in your opinion. First of all I realize we are approaching this philosphical conundrum from different perspectives ..you have your Catholic Irish stuff in the mix..I'm just a Heathen with no affilliation to any religion.
    So anyway, do you know anything about "The Law of Attraction"
    The general thrust of the deal is that everything is just energy vibrating at different frequenciesband that we can manifest anything we desire simply by aligning our vibrations to those which match what we want. (just log onto UA-cam and type LOA) there's plenty of stuff to ahve a go at on there!
    However, and this is what sent the alarm bells ringing, it requires "belief" or "faith". So my question, which no one wants to answer is "what differentiates the "Law of Attraction" from any other religion?"
    So anyway I'm guessing you know where I'm going with this......yep...almost without exception the acolytes of "The Law of Attraction" queued up to invoke Quantum Physics to support their various claims and add some scientific credibility to their spurious arguments.
    For the sake of clarity let me explain what I understand about Quantum Physics.
    "Quantum Theory" states that all matter in the Universe including you and me and the chairs we are sitting in are just energy vibrating at different frequencies.
    As far as I'm aware it is still just a theory.
    However anything is possible and I'm quite willing to accept that anything is possible and there is enough logic left in my tank to consider how this sort of thinking could pan out.
    But here's the thing..Idon't'want to get involved in what I conceive to be a "New Age Religion" which proseltizes more dogma and doctrinare stuff which is no different to any other relgion!
    Anyway my rambling is over..make of it what you will..!

    • @samchapman7513
      @samchapman7513 6 років тому

      Darryl Sloan
      What if we are in control but we just can’t see it yet from this lower perspective we are presently vibrating on?
      I guess we have to keep looking into the abyss of belief in order to see how we are actually creating it ourselves, although I for one have spent a lifetime feeling truly afraid of that power
      But I keep reading about how powerful we are as creative beings and yet know I haven’t tapped into that, although maybe I have, but I’ve only been doing it from a minimised and lower density point
      This is so fascinating to me and to have others who are questioning and contemplating such endeavours is awesome 🐝

  • @paradoxicalocus3761
    @paradoxicalocus3761 6 років тому

    I love listening to your voice and accent :D From where precicely in the UK do you hail?

  • @creatorchris712
    @creatorchris712 5 років тому

    You havent searched a bit the electric universe theory.Search the big bang never happened

  • @annabarbara9003
    @annabarbara9003 2 місяці тому

    No wonder you're a fan of John Wyndham

  • @knightmedia1
    @knightmedia1 6 років тому +1

    Sorry, but to your reference on 'reality'.......there are actually tonnes of realities around what we perceive as the 'real', dream/causal travelling, alternate realities, plus many more, just because our minds believe one angle of that, doesn't make it true or the rest of them un-true, other than that, interesting views lol.........but again, only views and opinions, NOT fact, but thanks all the same ;-)

  • @truthspeller3279
    @truthspeller3279 6 років тому

    Rom 8:18 (For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. 19For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. 20For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope 21that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now. 23And not only this, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body. 24For in hope we have been saved, but hope that is seen is not hope; for who hopes for what he already sees? 25But if we hope for what we do not see, with perseverance we wait eagerly for it.
    26In the same way the Spirit also helps our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words; 27and He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.
    28And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. 29For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; 30and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.