I knew it! I was watching another video yesterday where the individual was not all that excited about "Color Point." The first thing I thought was "I BET Blake will love it." lol. Thank you for this wonderful quick "review." I look forward to the future in-depth videos to come.
I love your enthusiasm for colour and love that you want to share it with the world. When I watch your videos all I want to do is get my computer and play with all you are sharing. I love your way of explaining things so clearly which helps at my age as I am not one of the youngest in your fan club. So thank you so much, can’t wait for the virtual summit to see what you have in store for us all.
Thanks for the information on Point Color. You have gone into much more detail than most of the instructors currently reviewing the new software update. Love your shot of the Dallas Divide from the overlook pull-off. My wife and I happened to be in Ouray last week also, although didn't go to Dallas Divide. Spent all of our time ATVing between Ouray and Silverton. You are spot on with how the yellows really popped.
Such a gorgeous countryside. Pictures do not do the scenes justice. I gotta get to work, lol! I'm so glad you and your wife got to enjoy the splendor of yellow there too. Amazing!
WOW! That's awesome feature! I really enjoyed your tutorial on Point Color and got excited from your excitement! I can't wait to experiment it myself! I'm sure you'll make more tutorials on this new feature! Thank you so much Blake! God bless and good luck!
Thank you Blake!! You always get me so excited to try out the new stuff! And since I also love color theory, I super excited to get into this new tool! :D
Just speechless!!! What an improvement for getting the right colors and creating awesome photos! Thank you Blake for helping us understand this new feature quickly and efficiently
There is no more you can whish!!! Being happy with the life you live!!! And making other people as happy as you are by sharing where you are the best in. ❤ You are a wonderful person, Blake!
As soon as I saw what was in ACR 16.0 I thought Blake is really going to like this...........sure enough just like a child's first time in a candy store. The best part is having that level of control for color in masking now. It would appear that Adobe does listen as it has been much requested since the masking section became available. Appreciate the in depth video especially covering the lower sliders in Point Color.
Yeah, Blake, it's probably more than we are seeing at present. This is going for a 32bit workflow system that gives the ability to infinitely distort the hyperbolic 3D color space we see diagramed all the time in color space comparisons but have never had an intuitive WYSIWYG way to manipulate it in such a simple but forceful way. And I love their categories of 'Light, Color, Effects' as a not so obvious way to admit that the Rudis Mantra of Tone-Color-Effects is a truly all encompassing way to understand how to bring the digital negative to life; some of us know what they mean by Light is in better described as Tone. Kudos to having such a profound impact on the most significant image editing platform ever created to date.
Woah! I didn't even recognize that until you said it. Look at that! Probably just a coincidence. I dont think Adobe knows what I preach let alone watches my channel haha!
Bravo, Blake. Most are focusing on Lens Blur and HDR, and I agree that while those are cool, before I even saw this video I thought Point Color is the one that will help us the most day to day. ACR/LR review coverage should be 80% Point Color and 20% the rest, but most have that backwards. You got it right. As usual. :)
Full artistic colour control! Definitely on board with your excitement over this and totally agree with you about it being the user's vision! I'm also sure you will be back with some interesting ways to use this for particular effects and results. Even in preparation for B&W no doubt!
I saw this yesterday when I updated. It's incredible. Thanks for showing us how it's used! I totally missed the slider adjustments modeled after the luminance mask tool. This is a huge upgrade in capabilities.
I love your enthusiasm. I have only recently returned to Adobe products and have been a long time C1 user, yes I know, I'm one of those. C1 has alienated me and many others with their revised pricing model recently so I am very glad to see this implementation of this colour manipulation feature. It was an aspect of C1 that I used on most images so great to see it here. I appreciate that your channel is all about Adobe, however, I think it is important to realise that other software manufacturers, especially those with different tools, help drive innovation. Without C1, PL7 etc etc Adobe I doubt would have made the recent strides they have. The other big one for me was being able to mask curves in ACR.
Thank you Blake. I asked Adobe (in several surveys) to get a more sophisticated HSL tool within the masking panel. Finally!!! It seems Adobe is doing what it can to minimize the need to side-trip through PS..There are still so many opportunities within LR. Especially with AI.
Beautiful picture Blake!! Where is this. It goes without saying that the tutorial is phenomenal, as usual, and highly useful. Thanks again for all that you do. We need to start calling you Blake Mahomes.
This is a vast improvement on the hue selector in the Color section of the masking panel, that's for sure! Precise color control in local adjustments especially, has now been delivered in LR/ACR.Kudos to Adobe.
Wow!! Now this is an exciting tool! I actually think it makes color easier as it is based on the actual colors there, then you can adjust the broad color.
Love this feature and your enthusiasm in the video! Point color is an intriguing new feature. What's exciting for color-vision-defiicent people like me, is that I don't have to decide "is it yellow or is it orange," similar to the targeted adjustment tool, and (for everybody) can adjust hue, saturation, and luminance for a targeted color all in one place (instead of separate H, S ,and L panels). I might have missed you mentioning this, but you can have multiple "point color" selections and adjustments.
A few years ago I stopped using the HSL or mixer panel on anything I was going to make a larger print because I felt like I was getting some color banding that showed up. Now I think that problem goes away.
I was hesitant to take that section too far, but now with the point color control you can really setup a color for a homerun with further adjustments in the mixer tab.
Thank you once again for your information. Only just updated so will play with in time. All the best for PS Virual Summit and look forward to viewing .What tea do you drink ? It must be a good brew. 😎
@@f64Academy I am going to look over my live music full spectrum photos and see what I come up with. I am not spending much time with photography at the moment but when I do your vids are the first I go to. I struggled from film to digital until I found the vids you do. The excitement and explanation of different topics is awesome.
Did Adobe’s update to Ps messed up the link from LrC? The “edit in Photoshop” function in LrC is now greyed out 😕 I know this is off topic and not sure if you have covered the issue in another video.
Love your genuine excitement. Def a huge step up in color control. Haven’t yet noticed the update on my LrC. Is the HSL panel finally included in masks?
No. Not necessarily. This is raw not PS, so ZSE still has a place in the workflow. Rarely do things replace something else in my workflow, instead I prefer to have things work in tandem.
I understand what you are saying, but how would you modify a specific colour in ZSE after the precise adjustments you can now do in camera raw?...and why would you need to? @@f64Academy
I agree this new feature is awesome! As I watched, I was thinking how there are cases where you would want to use this feature with a mask. Then you introduced the added bonus that Adobe added this to the masking section to make it even more powerful. Among many uses, I can see this as a way to correct white balance issues when the camera captures the white balance in part of the image correctly, but not other parts. Keep up the great work!
I have just notice that if you do more than one colour in an image you get separate boxes at the top of the panel so you can go back in and change each one
Wow! The only downside I see with this is the amount of hours I could spend experimenting and trying to decide from all the possibilities. It's nice to see Adobe adding more professional features again instead of dumbing down and making it easier for the amateur. That probably sounds terrible but we must stay ahead of the curve and if Adobe and other firms make one-click software that gives anyone the ability to get professional results without having any knowledge of how things actually work, our profession is doomed. Great video as usual.
Thanks. Also recommend folks watch Julieanne Kost summary where she shows the use of point colour with masking especially with example of face retouching. Great tool now!
I've been working out of my archives for a few years because I'm just not able to get out and about like I used to, or would like to do. After a while, you run out of things you can do to process, improve or rescue older photos, so for about a year I've mostly been playing around with generative AI creations while my photo archives have languished on the hard drive. But I really like working oh my photos, and if these additions to Lightroom Classic can help me further refine and make improvements to them, I may get back into archive diving again!
I like your enthusiastic approach to the new functions. IMHO this will give me the opportunity to make my most recent subjects (well camouflaged preying mantis) stand out a little - just like I saw and found them because in the photos they blend even more into the environment than they do in reality (where certain lighting directions that allow finding them do not translate well into the photos because then these lack definition). The same urgency (I need to revisit images) like you articulated has befallen me regarding some rare orchids (yellow bee orchids, a genetic aberration which is without the brown lip color the normal form has) which are so darn hard to depict because they again blend so well into the environment where they grow that it's almost impossible to do them justice..
This is raw so for me it doesn't change much in PS, just helps get color accuracy done in Raw so I can focus less on that in PS and more on vision. No tutorial to follow really. Anytime I show something in ACR or usually means what I do before going into PS. That's not the same for everyone, but with my workflow that's what you can expect. This has nothing to do with blend if in PS or gradient maps for color grading.
Strange, I'm on version 13 and I still have the Basic panel. It is not split into light, color and effects. In fact I've looked at a couple of videos and yours is the only one that shows this?
WOW! Once I return from Acadia I'll need to use the new tools to enhance the colors. :) Blake, I think you're eating to many s'mores. You're getting sugar rushes.
Great job explaining the usage and possibilities of this new tool. My question is, does it create a mask that can be accessed separately? Keep up the awesome work!
This the Point Color tool will be amazing if you are shooting a portrait in mixed lighting or under the shade of a tree where you get a greenish hue to the skin.
@@MRBuDWiZe It's not too difficult. Just sample the area of skin with the green tint. Then turn on the masking feature to visualize what's being selected. After that adjust the range based on the three parameters to narrow down the portion of the skin that's problematic. You kind of have to evaluate the image and determine how to mask it. Also, don't forget to feather the selection for a natural transition. To really isolate the problematic areas, I'd even temporarily boost the vibrance to 100 and saturation to 30 or 40. This will make it easier to spot the problem areas.
Back in the day, the Nikon editing software, Capture NX had a better version of this with their U point technology. You could click a point in the image and then change anything, colour, contrast, luminance, based on the pixels under the cursor. And you could choose an area, circle/elipse. It's why for years I didn't bother with photoshop, Capture NX or whatever it was called, made it very easy to do a lot with photos. You could change any hue to any hue too. I've waited years for this, particularly to have it in the making area as well.
I’ve dreamed about this for 15 years, color adjustments not just based on a hue range but also saturation and luminance range. Now I will probably have to dream many more years for it the be available as an adjustment layer in Ps. The color tools in photoshop, which I always thought was kind of their flagship product, is falling behind ACR/Lr, premiere and after effects. For example how many times does one have to flip between shadows, midtones and highlights in color balance every day? It’s ridiculous.
@@f64Academy Do adobe listen to petitions? Anyway it would be insanely powerful if this was actually inside Photoshop. And it would be a very nice pro feature that many of us would love! Lately I feel adobe is more focused on catering to beginners and hobbyist, turning Lego into Duplo. Focusing on elimination clicks rather than giving more control :(
Been using since appears on ACR and Lr but I find a funny thing, well strange in a way. Usually, Adobe uses the same features between ARC and Lr, on Point Color on Lr when you over the eyedropper you get a magnifier here you can see the detail and color you going to choose. On ACR that doesn't exist, we just click and that's all. Ok, no doubt we can say that in Lens Blur the icon to activate visualize depth is also different, but that's only the Icon, here I found the Lr more precise way to select the color, well, better. Don't know why on ACR is different.
The old HSL panel in LR had the eyedropper tool that gave you more or less the same functionality as the new Point Color...it's only the range and masking tools that are meaningfully new.
@@f64Academy I had to go in and do the update. Pulled up an old engagement picture from 2016 where the girl tanned WAY too much and adjusting her skin tone was like WHOA!! 🤯 Definitely a game changer.
I have to say that over the past 2-3 years ADobe has made LR and ACR quite competitive with their color manipulation (and masking) tools. I mean 2-3 years ago, LR and ACR were a bit of a joke in this regard and many others, but lately, I think it's really starting to show its value, and the value of the Photographers package (which Adobe HASN'T asked for more money yet, yet we are getting a lot of new features in both ACR/LR AND Photoshop -- although they are starting to implement the pay-for-AI model, but you can still use it without buying extra credits -- it's just slower but luckily things like generative fill are tools I really don't use anyway with my photography editing workflow). Even though most of the modern hardware out there isn't necessarily HDR-compatible (screens, tablets, phones, printers, etc) it is nice that they at least included this for now, for when the technology becomes more readily available and in use (although that may still be a few years away before it becomes mainstream, but at least we'll have the option when it does). Personally I'm not that interested in this feature currently (As I mostly do landscapes, and like to keep things mostly realistic) and if I do need HDR, I will continue to use traditional techniques to achieve the results I need/want.
Tbf, Capture One basically has had this for a while. The next major version of Capture One will have AI masking...so the race is on! I'd say the LR+PS for less per month is still the better option for most, though!
Yep, C1 people are always quick to say C1 had that first, but Adobe people are like whatever about everything else. So C1 getting AI, cool, who cares, lol I casually pick on them, but I kinda mean it, because its annoying when the comments get taken over by C1 users on a mission :)
I wouldn't really call it next level. Finally lightroom is slowly playing catch up to what resolve can do, a little bit. I still wish there was a LOT more to do here. This is a step in the right direction but it's still missing so much.
Don't forget though, Blend Modes, Blend If, more detailed masking, etc. There is still a reason to go into PS IMO. Until they add blend modes and layers into ACR/LR, I'm still a huge Ps person with my workflow.
Blake, as a newer f64 Elite Academy member which has been awesome by the way, I can see where this would change my workflow! To keep it non destructive, we would need to pull into ACR as a smart object right as any direct editing in ACR would be destructive. This pretty much eliminates the need for HSL/Saturation adjustments in PS? Looks like the range sliders incorporate feathering or blend if!?
They don't necessarily incorporate blend if, they just operate similarly. I don't tend to open as a smart object, but that's my workflow. It doesn't hurt to open as a smart object. But since it's raw it's always nondestructive. If you use this in ACR as a filter on a stamped layer, I would probably use it as a smart object.
I would add it would really vary with the kind of thing you're doing as an image editor: a one off fine art piece vs a commercial shoot putting a batch of images through a consistent flow with a given color objective in mind, at a couple examples where you might use this as an initial step in ACR or LR to bring a specific image into a particular 'look', ready for sharing or printing, where a non-destructive 'layer' is less needed, or whether it's done more as a masked treatment for particular aspects of an image or batch of images ready for final tweaks for fine art proof prints or commercial production where one may need to go back and make a change and apply that change to every image in a set.
You can only export it to be viewed on HDR devices so it's not that applicable to many people... Yet. I'm sure technology will catch up to the feature. Greg Benz had a great video explaining it.
@@f64Academy But my monitor is showing HDR and I can see all the colours in Camera raw and Lightroom, however when I open it in photoshop it goes back to not showing:)
@@klaudijuskairys exactly. You can't use this data for anything other than display purposes and it has to be exported directly out off acr or LR you cant hand that data off to Ps
Does this mean I'll be asking for a refund on all the courses about color that I've bought from ya? I'M JUST KIDDING!!!! 😂😂😂 I'm almost as excited about it as you, just experimented with it on a drone image I took in my backyard of a tree starting to change color.
HDR "… we can't print them …" - never will. If one is after printed images, HDR display support is a complete non-starter. But there are people out there who want it. Me? Meh …
I knew it! I was watching another video yesterday where the individual was not all that excited about "Color Point." The first thing I thought was "I BET Blake will love it." lol. Thank you for this wonderful quick "review." I look forward to the future in-depth videos to come.
Exactly! You really have to know and love color theory for this tool to a. make sense and b. get you excited, lol
@@f64AcademyI'm still learning to love it Blake! 💜
Great to see you so excited! It's a fantastic new tool!
I love it! Very exciting stuff!
I love your enthusiasm for colour and love that you want to share it with the world. When I watch your videos all I want to do is get my computer and play with all you are sharing. I love your way of explaining things so clearly which helps at my age as I am not one of the youngest in your fan club. So thank you so much, can’t wait for the virtual summit to see what you have in store for us all.
😁 thanks so much. I love what I get to do for a living. I have some good stuff planned for the summit 😁
Your enthusiasm is contagious! Thanks for sharing this, Blake.
😁 my pleasure!
Thanks for the information on Point Color. You have gone into much more detail than most of the instructors currently reviewing the new software update. Love your shot of the Dallas Divide from the overlook pull-off. My wife and I happened to be in Ouray last week also, although didn't go to Dallas Divide. Spent all of our time ATVing between Ouray and Silverton. You are spot on with how the yellows really popped.
Such a gorgeous countryside. Pictures do not do the scenes justice. I gotta get to work, lol! I'm so glad you and your wife got to enjoy the splendor of yellow there too. Amazing!
WOW! That's awesome feature! I really enjoyed your tutorial on Point Color and got excited from your excitement! I can't wait to experiment it myself! I'm sure you'll make more tutorials on this new feature! Thank you so much Blake! God bless and good luck!
😁 glad you enjoyed it. I'm sure more will come in time!
Wow! This is a pretty awesome feature. Thanks for covering it and giving us a run down on it's use. Always love your enthusiasm for colour Blake 🙂
I can't help it! I get so excited haha
Really great overview. You were like a kid in a candy shop! Best coverage of these new features that I have seen yet!
😁 genuine excitement. I LOVE new color tools.
Your excitement is fun to watch. I enjoyed this video.
😁 I just can't help it when an awesome color tool comes out
Thanks. Of the 5 videos I watched of this new color feature , yours was the most detailed.
Sweet! That's what I aim for 😁
Thank for this level of detail and understanding about this very competent new color tool.
My pleasure!
Thank you Blake!! You always get me so excited to try out the new stuff! And since I also love color theory, I super excited to get into this new tool! :D
Yes! You'll love it for those times you need color accuracy.
@@f64Academy You mean every time I edit my photos??? lol! ;)
@@jayehaleryn 🤣🤣🤣 yeah it happens to the best of us!
Your enthusiasm is contagious! Great video.
Just speechless!!! What an improvement for getting the right colors and creating awesome photos! Thank you Blake for helping us understand this new feature quickly and efficiently
My pleasure. I love what I get to do for a living.
There is no more you can whish!!!
Being happy with the life you live!!! And making other people as happy as you are by sharing where you are the best in. ❤
You are a wonderful person, Blake!
@@MvRPhGy thank you very much 😁 I needed that smile today. Based on your comments I would say you are a wonderful person as well 😁
You make me smile, but yes... I try too
Have a nice day (here it is night already),
Robert
Thank You! A lot to unpack here. Processing my birds, flowers, and butterflies photos will become a new adventure!
As soon as I saw what was in ACR 16.0 I thought Blake is really going to like this...........sure enough just like a child's first time in a candy store. The best part is having that level of control for color in masking now. It would appear that Adobe does listen as it has been much requested since the masking section became available. Appreciate the in depth video especially covering the lower sliders in Point Color.
My pleasure! I really did feel like a kid in a candy store 🤣
Thanks Blake! Awesome job as always. You got me so psyched I’m off to overdose on color coffee too!
That's where it's at! Love it!
Yeah, Blake, it's probably more than we are seeing at present. This is going for a 32bit workflow system that gives the ability to infinitely distort the hyperbolic 3D color space we see diagramed all the time in color space comparisons but have never had an intuitive WYSIWYG way to manipulate it in such a simple but forceful way. And I love their categories of 'Light, Color, Effects' as a not so obvious way to admit that the Rudis Mantra of Tone-Color-Effects is a truly all encompassing way to understand how to bring the digital negative to life; some of us know what they mean by Light is in better described as Tone. Kudos to having such a profound impact on the most significant image editing platform ever created to date.
Woah! I didn't even recognize that until you said it. Look at that! Probably just a coincidence. I dont think Adobe knows what I preach let alone watches my channel haha!
This is an awesome upgrade. Its all about color. Thanks for this video Blake
BAM! You bet!
This is awesome! What a great addition - thanks for sharing your passion for color and creating a visual experience!
Wow! Thanks for showing this. I’ve really got to set aside some play time!
You should! It's fun :)
Bravo, Blake. Most are focusing on Lens Blur and HDR, and I agree that while those are cool, before I even saw this video I thought Point Color is the one that will help us the most day to day. ACR/LR review coverage should be 80% Point Color and 20% the rest, but most have that backwards. You got it right. As usual. :)
I agree! Those are alright features, bit very limited on scope. This is the bees knees!
Really like what you said in the last 2 minutes about color critiques.
It's important to be yourself and let your imagination blend with reality to allow the world to see your vision!
Blake, this is one of the best TV shows I've watched for a long time ... 😲 🙂
😁 woohoo! I DO have a shot in Hollywood!
Excellent explanation of this new tool, thanks!!
Thank you! 😁
Brilliant as always Blake! Thank you
My pleasure, it's a brilliant tool!
Full artistic colour control! Definitely on board with your excitement over this and totally agree with you about it being the user's vision! I'm also sure you will be back with some interesting ways to use this for particular effects and results. Even in preparation for B&W no doubt!
Oh for sure! The fun has just begun!
Love your excitement for this new feature.! I totally agree.
Woohoo!
Thax for updating and your excitement! We will try it out!
Any time!
I saw this yesterday when I updated. It's incredible. Thanks for showing us how it's used! I totally missed the slider adjustments modeled after the luminance mask tool. This is a huge upgrade in capabilities.
It certainly is! They did great work with this feature!
Blake today = kid on Christmas morning :) Thanks for the enthusiastic demo!
Seriously! I didn't even hear Santa update it :) haha
Thank you Blake, I was waiting your video on Point Color. 😊
:) Glad you enjoyed it! I dropped everything to experiment with it.
color point is so powerful more than color mixer, very precise .Thanks
For sure! But using them together is the chefs kiss. It's not always about one or the other but how they can work in tandem.
As always you are the man. thanks for bringing this to my attention, it will make so much difference😄
Aw thank you! It's always my pleasure 😁
I love your enthusiasm. I have only recently returned to Adobe products and have been a long time C1 user, yes I know, I'm one of those. C1 has alienated me and many others with their revised pricing model recently so I am very glad to see this implementation of this colour manipulation feature. It was an aspect of C1 that I used on most images so great to see it here.
I appreciate that your channel is all about Adobe, however, I think it is important to realise that other software manufacturers, especially those with different tools, help drive innovation. Without C1, PL7 etc etc Adobe I doubt would have made the recent strides they have. The other big one for me was being able to mask curves in ACR.
I don't disregard that at all. How many companies have used Adobe as their framework for features? Capture One included. My point is ... Who cares 🤣
Thank You Blake. It is truly amazing. That is control exelence. So useful. I had't even seen there was an update for ACR.
I agree! Game changing!
Thank you Blake. I asked Adobe (in several surveys) to get a more sophisticated HSL tool within the masking panel. Finally!!! It seems Adobe is doing what it can to minimize the need to side-trip through PS..There are still so many opportunities within LR. Especially with AI.
Nice! can you ask them to make this an adjustment layer in Photoshop 😁
Beautiful picture Blake!! Where is this. It goes without saying that the tutorial is phenomenal, as usual, and highly useful. Thanks again for all that you do. We need to start calling you Blake Mahomes.
🤣 I'm just me 😁 that was the Dallas Divide, it's a pull off from HWY 62 in CO near Ridgeway on the way to Telluride. Pull off and shoot 🤣
How does this change your workflow with using Color Calibration?
It doesn't. It just makes my color even better before going onto PS
This is a vast improvement on the hue selector in the Color section of the masking panel, that's for sure! Precise color control in local adjustments especially, has now been delivered in LR/ACR.Kudos to Adobe.
Agreed!
Wow!! Now this is an exciting tool! I actually think it makes color easier as it is based on the actual colors there, then you can adjust the broad color.
I agree!
Love this feature and your enthusiasm in the video! Point color is an intriguing new feature. What's exciting for color-vision-defiicent people like me, is that I don't have to decide "is it yellow or is it orange," similar to the targeted adjustment tool, and (for everybody) can adjust hue, saturation, and luminance for a targeted color all in one place (instead of separate H, S ,and L panels). I might have missed you mentioning this, but you can have multiple "point color" selections and adjustments.
Thanks Blake ... Im off to play !!!😄
Hope you enjoy!
A few years ago I stopped using the HSL or mixer panel on anything I was going to make a larger print because I felt like I was getting some color banding that showed up. Now I think that problem goes away.
I was hesitant to take that section too far, but now with the point color control you can really setup a color for a homerun with further adjustments in the mixer tab.
Thank you once again for your information. Only just updated so will play with in time. All the best for PS Virual Summit and look forward to viewing .What tea do you drink ? It must be a good brew. 😎
I'm a huge Earl Grey fan. But I'll drink almost any black tea. I don't like green tea or herbal tea much.
This is going to b awesome for full spectrum photography
OMG yes it is!
@@f64Academy I am going to look over my live music full spectrum photos and see what I come up with. I am not spending much time with photography at the moment but when I do your vids are the first I go to. I struggled from film to digital until I found the vids you do. The excitement and explanation of different topics is awesome.
When you are adjusting range is it possible to mask the clouds?
Yes. You'd need to mask the sky then either intersect the luminance or paint the clouds away.
Great new features. Little bit complicated but will be very useful.
It is, but get your hands dirty, you'll get it pretty quickly especially if you turn range visibility on.
Did Adobe’s update to Ps messed up the link from LrC? The “edit in Photoshop” function in LrC is now greyed out 😕 I know this is off topic and not sure if you have covered the issue in another video.
Love your genuine excitement. Def a huge step up in color control. Haven’t yet noticed the update on my LrC. Is the HSL panel finally included in masks?
The point color definitely is. I show that at the end. This is currently in LrC as well.
@@f64Academy yes I saw that part of your video. For a long time I wanted the HSL with a mask to control the WB locally.
Blake: I have your ZSE panel. It would appear to me that camera raw now renders the colour adjustment sections in ZSE redundant?
No. Not necessarily. This is raw not PS, so ZSE still has a place in the workflow. Rarely do things replace something else in my workflow, instead I prefer to have things work in tandem.
I understand what you are saying, but how would you modify a specific colour in ZSE after the precise adjustments you can now do in camera raw?...and why would you need to? @@f64Academy
I agree this new feature is awesome! As I watched, I was thinking how there are cases where you would want to use this feature with a mask. Then you introduced the added bonus that Adobe added this to the masking section to make it even more powerful. Among many uses, I can see this as a way to correct white balance issues when the camera captures the white balance in part of the image correctly, but not other parts. Keep up the great work!
This is great; However, I do not have this. Yet, Adobe Creative Cloud says my LRC and Photoshop are up to date. How do I get them?
The only way I know is to update the programs. Try restarting your machine, then open CC again.
I have just notice that if you do more than one colour in an image you get separate boxes at the top of the panel so you can go back in and change each one
Yep! Highly functional! I love it.
Thanks for the insight.
My pleasure
Wow! The only downside I see with this is the amount of hours I could spend experimenting and trying to decide from all the possibilities.
It's nice to see Adobe adding more professional features again instead of dumbing down and making it easier for the amateur. That probably sounds terrible but we must stay ahead of the curve and if Adobe and other firms make one-click software that gives anyone the ability to get professional results without having any knowledge of how things actually work, our profession is doomed.
Great video as usual.
I agree 💯! I don't like the dumbing down of tools for the sake of working less. It takes the fun and vision out of it.
Thanks. Also recommend folks watch Julieanne Kost summary where she shows the use of point colour with masking especially with example of face retouching. Great tool now!
I'll check hers out. I did show it in masking at the end but it's not that in depth. I used a sky mask to isolate blue.
I've been working out of my archives for a few years because I'm just not able to get out and about like I used to, or would like to do. After a while, you run out of things you can do to process, improve or rescue older photos, so for about a year I've mostly been playing around with generative AI creations while my photo archives have languished on the hard drive. But I really like working oh my photos, and if these additions to Lightroom Classic can help me further refine and make improvements to them, I may get back into archive diving again!
That's a good thing to keep your mind fresh! Have you started working on composites with some of your images? That may fuel your creativity.
very lovely place 🌹🌹
It really is!
I like this new feature too.
Glad you enjoy it as well.
This is wonderful but isn't this also available on Lightroom with a selected specific point range?
Yes it's in Lightroom
I like your enthusiastic approach to the new functions. IMHO this will give me the opportunity to make my most recent subjects (well camouflaged preying mantis) stand out a little - just like I saw and found them because in the photos they blend even more into the environment than they do in reality (where certain lighting directions that allow finding them do not translate well into the photos because then these lack definition). The same urgency (I need to revisit images) like you articulated has befallen me regarding some rare orchids (yellow bee orchids, a genetic aberration which is without the brown lip color the normal form has) which are so darn hard to depict because they again blend so well into the environment where they grow that it's almost impossible to do them justice..
This is terrific. Now - how will this affect Blend if and gradient mapping? Will it be used less or? Maybe a video showing us - coming soon? 😊
This is raw so for me it doesn't change much in PS, just helps get color accuracy done in Raw so I can focus less on that in PS and more on vision.
No tutorial to follow really. Anytime I show something in ACR or usually means what I do before going into PS. That's not the same for everyone, but with my workflow that's what you can expect.
This has nothing to do with blend if in PS or gradient maps for color grading.
Basically, Point color gives you the ability to use Saturation and Luminance mask when adjusting colors. Pretty awesome.
I like it alright
Great video Blake! Can't wait for color uniformity slider in ACR to stop paying for Capture one.
Just unify it with other tools. The polish on top of this could be color grading or local adjustments.
Strange, I'm on version 13 and I still have the Basic panel. It is not split into light, color and effects. In fact I've looked at a couple of videos and yours is the only one that shows this?
This is ACR 16.0.0 Restart your machine, then go into the Creative Cloud App and see if you need to update it.
Cheers Blake, I've just tried that to no avail. I may be a bit premature. I have form for that so the Mrs says..... ;)@@f64Academy
WOW! Once I return from Acadia I'll need to use the new tools to enhance the colors. :) Blake, I think you're eating to many s'mores. You're getting sugar rushes.
I stay away from sugar as much as possible. This is RAW passion 🤣
Blake, you are so funny!! 😂 Color vomit??? 😂
Point Color is somthing I miss from capture one pro in C1P you can do many more things :)
I knew a Capture One user would have something to say 😂 at least we have something good now in ACR/LR
Great job explaining the usage and possibilities of this new tool. My question is, does it create a mask that can be accessed separately? Keep up the awesome work!
No, unfortunately. That all stays in the Raw data.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ❤💙💚
Certainly! My pleasure!
This the Point Color tool will be amazing if you are shooting a portrait in mixed lighting or under the shade of a tree where you get a greenish hue to the skin.
this has been killing my with sony a7rIII photos on a football field i just have to learn how to use this tool so i can see how to actually fix it
Glad you see a place for it!
@@MRBuDWiZe It's not too difficult. Just sample the area of skin with the green tint. Then turn on the masking feature to visualize what's being selected. After that adjust the range based on the three parameters to narrow down the portion of the skin that's problematic. You kind of have to evaluate the image and determine how to mask it. Also, don't forget to feather the selection for a natural transition. To really isolate the problematic areas, I'd even temporarily boost the vibrance to 100 and saturation to 30 or 40. This will make it easier to spot the problem areas.
@@Daniel_Zalman thanks mate will have a shot at it
Back in the day, the Nikon editing software, Capture NX had a better version of this with their U point technology. You could click a point in the image and then change anything, colour, contrast, luminance, based on the pixels under the cursor. And you could choose an area, circle/elipse. It's why for years I didn't bother with photoshop, Capture NX or whatever it was called, made it very easy to do a lot with photos. You could change any hue to any hue too.
I've waited years for this, particularly to have it in the making area as well.
here it is :) Thanks Adobe!
I’ve dreamed about this for 15 years, color adjustments not just based on a hue range but also saturation and luminance range.
Now I will probably have to dream many more years for it the be available as an adjustment layer in Ps. The color tools in photoshop, which I always thought was kind of their flagship product, is falling behind ACR/Lr, premiere and after effects. For example how many times does one have to flip between shadows, midtones and highlights in color balance every day? It’s ridiculous.
Maybe we can make a petition to have this as an adjustment layer. Can you imagine the Lookup Table profiles one could make for ACR with this power?
Instead of dreaming you could search for it, it is called Lumenzia.
@@f64Academy Do adobe listen to petitions? Anyway it would be insanely powerful if this was actually inside Photoshop. And it would be a very nice pro feature that many of us would love! Lately I feel adobe is more focused on catering to beginners and hobbyist, turning Lego into Duplo. Focusing on elimination clicks rather than giving more control :(
Been using since appears on ACR and Lr but I find a funny thing, well strange in a way. Usually, Adobe uses the same features between ARC and Lr, on Point Color on Lr when you over the eyedropper you get a magnifier here you can see the detail and color you going to choose. On ACR that doesn't exist, we just click and that's all.
Ok, no doubt we can say that in Lens Blur the icon to activate visualize depth is also different, but that's only the Icon, here I found the Lr more precise way to select the color, well, better. Don't know why on ACR is different.
The old HSL panel in LR had the eyedropper tool that gave you more or less the same functionality as the new Point Color...it's only the range and masking tools that are meaningfully new.
That's where the next level comes from 😉
Hello! How do I find this ACR tool? I can't find it in Lightroom? Is there a link? I am confused. :)
It's in Lightroom also, you don't need ACR through Lightroom it should be in the LR develop module
Do you mean to tell me it is the Color Grading section? @@f64Academy
I found it. I had to update Lightroom.@@f64Academy
I ❤ this!!!
so glad you do too!
@@f64Academy I had to go in and do the update. Pulled up an old engagement picture from 2016 where the girl tanned WAY too much and adjusting her skin tone was like WHOA!! 🤯 Definitely a game changer.
Aka. Capture one pro. Awesome adition. I was about to buy capture one.
To each their own. I just prefer the Adobe ecosystem.
But the change of some slider positions was really bad. No way to change that?
I don't know what you mean. It's a slider, so you can move it wherever you'd like.
:)) the new place of temp/tint, vibr/sat, text/clar/dehaze...
I have to say that over the past 2-3 years ADobe has made LR and ACR quite competitive with their color manipulation (and masking) tools. I mean 2-3 years ago, LR and ACR were a bit of a joke in this regard and many others, but lately, I think it's really starting to show its value, and the value of the Photographers package (which Adobe HASN'T asked for more money yet, yet we are getting a lot of new features in both ACR/LR AND Photoshop -- although they are starting to implement the pay-for-AI model, but you can still use it without buying extra credits -- it's just slower but luckily things like generative fill are tools I really don't use anyway with my photography editing workflow).
Even though most of the modern hardware out there isn't necessarily HDR-compatible (screens, tablets, phones, printers, etc) it is nice that they at least included this for now, for when the technology becomes more readily available and in use (although that may still be a few years away before it becomes mainstream, but at least we'll have the option when it does). Personally I'm not that interested in this feature currently (As I mostly do landscapes, and like to keep things mostly realistic) and if I do need HDR, I will continue to use traditional techniques to achieve the results I need/want.
I agree. Adobe have treated us VERY well with the Photography plan. I used to pay so much for upgrades in the Creative Suite days (CS).
I fully understand how to use this lol, not too hard if you know your color grading.
That's right! We were prepared for this 😁
Tbf, Capture One basically has had this for a while. The next major version of Capture One will have AI masking...so the race is on! I'd say the LR+PS for less per month is still the better option for most, though!
Yep, C1 people are always quick to say C1 had that first, but Adobe people are like whatever about everything else. So C1 getting AI, cool, who cares, lol
I casually pick on them, but I kinda mean it, because its annoying when the comments get taken over by C1 users on a mission :)
How do you spell censored?
Probably incorrectly
I wouldn't really call it next level. Finally lightroom is slowly playing catch up to what resolve can do, a little bit. I still wish there was a LOT more to do here. This is a step in the right direction but it's still missing so much.
It's better than it was two weeks ago...
@@f64Academy oh yeah, big leap in the right direction!
You may need a tranquilizer now, Blake.......before your head explodes! 😆
you got one?
It may take a little while to get to you.....I'm in England!@@f64Academy
Just joking, but Adobe just solved Sony's color problems with that.
🤣🤣🤣 so true!
if you work out how to correct it in this panel please feel free to share my a7rIII is killing me
Second that!😃
You found it too 😊
What really happened... Matt found it and called me, lol
There are fewer and fewer reasons to go to Photoshop with every major LR/ACR improvement.
Don't forget though, Blend Modes, Blend If, more detailed masking, etc. There is still a reason to go into PS IMO. Until they add blend modes and layers into ACR/LR, I'm still a huge Ps person with my workflow.
Blake, as a newer f64 Elite Academy member which has been awesome by the way, I can see where this would change my workflow! To keep it non destructive, we would need to pull into ACR as a smart object right as any direct editing in ACR would be destructive. This pretty much eliminates the need for HSL/Saturation adjustments in PS? Looks like the range sliders incorporate feathering or blend if!?
They don't necessarily incorporate blend if, they just operate similarly. I don't tend to open as a smart object, but that's my workflow. It doesn't hurt to open as a smart object. But since it's raw it's always nondestructive. If you use this in ACR as a filter on a stamped layer, I would probably use it as a smart object.
I would add it would really vary with the kind of thing you're doing as an image editor: a one off fine art piece vs a commercial shoot putting a batch of images through a consistent flow with a given color objective in mind, at a couple examples where you might use this as an initial step in ACR or LR to bring a specific image into a particular 'look', ready for sharing or printing, where a non-destructive 'layer' is less needed, or whether it's done more as a masked treatment for particular aspects of an image or batch of images ready for final tweaks for fine art proof prints or commercial production where one may need to go back and make a change and apply that change to every image in a set.
Seems like there is no one, who can explain, how to export HDR file. Everyone is jumping into other features
You can only export it to be viewed on HDR devices so it's not that applicable to many people... Yet. I'm sure technology will catch up to the feature.
Greg Benz had a great video explaining it.
@@f64Academy But my monitor is showing HDR and I can see all the colours in Camera raw and Lightroom, however when I open it in photoshop it goes back to not showing:)
@@klaudijuskairys exactly. You can't use this data for anything other than display purposes and it has to be exported directly out off acr or LR you cant hand that data off to Ps
@@f64Academy Thank you!
Well, that looks familiar!
"I just want to color vomit all over everything!"
Ha!
Does this mean I'll be asking for a refund on all the courses about color that I've bought from ya? I'M JUST KIDDING!!!! 😂😂😂 I'm almost as excited about it as you, just experimented with it on a drone image I took in my backyard of a tree starting to change color.
Haha, no. I mean you could... But this doesn't supplement everything. Just makes working with raw color easier.
Looks same as capture one
How many things in C1 lool the same as Adobe 🤣 of it ain't broke don't fix it
HDR "… we can't print them …" - never will. If one is after printed images, HDR display support is a complete non-starter. But there are people out there who want it. Me? Meh …
I'm not into it. The technology just isn't there yet for this feature. It's a niche feature IMO
@@f64Academy I wonder who the target audience for this feature actually is …
@@c.augustin primarily people who show their work on HDR displays. That's about it really.
better skin selection would be better! you might have to re-do the video now
I could. But I prefer people to experiment 😁 use that brain 😁
"sensored" should be censored! 🤣
I'm going to fire my proofreader
Slowly please, thank you
There's a slow down button in the play bar. Use that please. Thank you 😁
Your yellow looks orange to me.
If that's the case for you... For the sake of the tutorial, disregard the colors you see and focus on how to use the tools.
Kind of not my thing ;-)
No worries, I don't see why, but maybe it will be at some point.