What If The Middle East's Borders Were Redrawn?

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  • Опубліковано 1 тра 2024
  • The geopolitics of the Middle East have become synonymous with instability, war, and conflict, and much of this is owed to the borders of the middle east. Middle Eastern borders definitely need to be redrawn, as the current borders contribute to wars and hostilities such as those between Iran and Israel, Iran and Saudi Arabia, Syria and Israel, Syria and Turkey, etc., but can new borders actually bring peace to the middle eastern region? Monsieur Z and the US of Z community have come together to redraw the borders of the middle east to solve exactly that! This is what if the Middle East's borders were redrawn?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 860

  • @MonsieurDean
    @MonsieurDean  Місяць тому +268

    I would just reestablish Rome if I could.

    • @IVBW-by8lf
      @IVBW-by8lf Місяць тому

      Ok

    • @TheRatOnFire_
      @TheRatOnFire_ Місяць тому +15

      Roma Invicta, Roma Aeterna

    • @PrussiaAustriaConfederal
      @PrussiaAustriaConfederal Місяць тому +8

      Viva Roma. Lunga vita a Roma! Roma è per sempre!

    • @msmith1890
      @msmith1890 Місяць тому +5

      There was once a dream. A dream called Rome.

    • @familygash7500
      @familygash7500 Місяць тому +4

      I think that some Italian guy wearing a fez actually tried to do that, once. He didn't see much success, though.

  • @AgentPerry8018
    @AgentPerry8018 Місяць тому +453

    Britain and France should go back and redraw the Middle East’s borders since they’re the ones who made them

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  Місяць тому +180

      Second times the charm, ey?

    • @1650th
      @1650th Місяць тому +43

      I don't want radioactive sand thank you very much

    • @JAKE-em5xr
      @JAKE-em5xr Місяць тому +19

      You never let a british draw a map they wont do it good second time either

    • @TheRealVenom448
      @TheRealVenom448 Місяць тому +5

      If you mean via nuke, then the sand would turn into glass.​@@1650th

    • @TheTrex9000
      @TheTrex9000 Місяць тому +9

      No, don't ever let Britain cook again

  • @diegoyanesholtz212
    @diegoyanesholtz212 Місяць тому +258

    Africa has a poorly drawn border too you should do that continent next.

    • @MrGnorts
      @MrGnorts Місяць тому +12

      there was a map on Reddit that did that, it was very detailed

    • @diggingdwarf610
      @diggingdwarf610 Місяць тому +1

      @@MrGnorts whats it called might wanna check it out

    • @MrGnorts
      @MrGnorts Місяць тому +7

      @@diggingdwarf610
      the only one I've found so far is "Map of Ethnicities in Africa [OC]" by ChocolateInTheWinter
      I really can't recall the one I thought of, but there's a chance this one is actually the one I thought of
      edit: the other maps with seemingly more "countries" aren't ethnic, but tribal
      edit2: there's also "Extremely detailed map of Africa's languages [2429 x 2969]"

    • @diggingdwarf610
      @diggingdwarf610 Місяць тому +1

      @@MrGnorts thanks imma look at them

    • @MrGnorts
      @MrGnorts Місяць тому

      @@diggingdwarf610 np man

  • @CMVBrielman
    @CMVBrielman Місяць тому +408

    7:20
    You do know Jordan tried *exactly* that, right? And for their trouble, a Palestinian assassinated their king.

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  Місяць тому +192

      Damn

    • @Kolateak_
      @Kolateak_ Місяць тому +108

      And then Palestinians tried to do it _again_

    • @Chr0n0s38
      @Chr0n0s38 Місяць тому

      ​@@MonsieurDean Palestinians are fiercely anti-monarchy. The only solution would be to force Israel to treat them all as first class citizens, though due to how many Palestinians there are the result would be the end of the idea of Israel as a Jewish state.

    • @familygash7500
      @familygash7500 Місяць тому +96

      They straight up tried to overthrow The Hashmites in a civil war known as: 'Black September'. Why they did that, I have no idea.

    • @user-oy2zg3bt6n
      @user-oy2zg3bt6n Місяць тому

      @@MonsieurDean this is not the only problem with the map either, Saudi Arabia will just collapse, water problems will be plaguing everyone but Israel who's already been dealing with that by desalinization, Israel and U.A.R border disputes over the Christians and the Golan, the entire future of the region depending on weather the Persians people would decide their own fate or would remain as an Islamic theocracy (because one thing that's suppose to be VERY clear is how Shiite population are literally everywhere that's important and nowhere else!

  • @Marcus-nn6js
    @Marcus-nn6js Місяць тому +169

    Well, this won't cause massive arguments in the comments.

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  Місяць тому +59

      Monsieur Z in a Fez: “Haha! Now let the donkey and elephant fight for my amusement!”

    • @No_Nem12345
      @No_Nem12345 25 днів тому +3

      @@MonsieurDeanwhy didn’t I understand that 💀

  • @easternhistorian4763
    @easternhistorian4763 Місяць тому +61

    Make it all Cyprus, the Kingdom of Cyprus needs to extend to Greece, Armenia Cilicia and all of the levant.

    • @sarantis1995
      @sarantis1995 Місяць тому +1

      Richard the Lion heart, first king of Cyprus xD

  • @DeanMonsieur
    @DeanMonsieur Місяць тому +113

    Redraw intergalactic borders next. The Spug System has been unlawfully mining Zorback Gling Crystals for too long!

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  Місяць тому +29

      This is a must!

    • @TastefulGorilla
      @TastefulGorilla Місяць тому +21

      Free Quasarstan.

    • @TheTrex9000
      @TheTrex9000 Місяць тому +12

      Please, we all know Kepler 32b rightfully owns all of the Cygnus Sector.

    • @jameszog1018
      @jameszog1018 Місяць тому +3

      @@TheTrex9000 Kepler Imperialists! Vroxia forever!

    • @adamhastie8439
      @adamhastie8439 Місяць тому +2

      Vive la sirius

  • @beastdork19
    @beastdork19 17 днів тому +9

    Naw bro you drew worse borders than even the French and British with this one 💀

    • @Omarkhawaldeh13
      @Omarkhawaldeh13 22 години тому

      Thank you from an actual middle eastern Jordanian 🇯🇴❤️

  • @Jose-cy7od
    @Jose-cy7od Місяць тому +497

    I like apple juice.

  • @W3ap0n1zedAut1sm
    @W3ap0n1zedAut1sm Місяць тому +78

    Waiting for all the Greeks to start flipping out that they are included in this lol

    • @johncalabria1607
      @johncalabria1607 Місяць тому +14

      It’s understandable because of Cyprus being involved. I don’t think anyone misinterpreted this video as saying Greeks are middle eastern

    • @sarantis1995
      @sarantis1995 Місяць тому +6

      I was puzzled when I saw my country on the middle east map but then again when it came to Cyprus, as a direct extension of Turkey's territorial claims, it makes sense.
      The Greece (incl Cyprus) - Judeojordan - UAR - Egypt axis would be a very formidable force in the region of East Mes though.
      The proposed borders look nice from an objective perspective but Turkey comes out as a "big loser" and only in 1920 would such an arrangement have worked.

    • @mastrey
      @mastrey Місяць тому

      ​@@sarantis1995 i feel that the economic crisis in turkey have the potential capacity to force turkey to accept some type of kurdistan estate
      The Chipre situation can be more dificult because the population of ilegal occupands is growing
      A potential solution will be a ecconomic incentive to remove non-locals from east chipre to a more comfortable levels before any type of fusion with Chipre were the Fusion with Grece will be posible
      I also feel that Middle East have 5 Regional powers Iran Saudis Egypt Turkey and Israel and maybe a improve bersion of the map needs to include the full caucasus region

    • @assasine08
      @assasine08 Місяць тому

      Not did they only "lose" land but imagine how bad turkey would try to escalate the problem of sea borders with Greece if that is today already a big issue.

    • @olbiomoiros
      @olbiomoiros Місяць тому +3

      @@johncalabria1607 Even if that were so. There were Greeks in Anatolia, the Levant, and Egypt. It’s not like Greeks are completely detached from the Middle East. We have a historical connection. Not to mention how Cyprus is literally in the Middle East.

  • @End_Mii
    @End_Mii Місяць тому +50

    WRONG! Middle East is historical Albanian land! 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱

    • @Deridus
      @Deridus 28 днів тому +3

      Long live King Zog!

    • @beastdork19
      @beastdork19 17 днів тому +3

      Finally someone who gets who really owns the Middle East!!!

    • @scorpionjaxxer339
      @scorpionjaxxer339 8 днів тому

      No. That’s stupid

    • @Deridus
      @Deridus 8 днів тому +1

      @@scorpionjaxxer339 Yes, factually accurate.

    • @scorpionjaxxer339
      @scorpionjaxxer339 8 днів тому +1

      @@Deridus Roman and Persia would be better. Rome rules west, Persia rules east (oversimplification). At least in a perfect world😅

  • @Counterfactualy_no
    @Counterfactualy_no Місяць тому +18

    This comment section is going to be peaceful and civil with no out of control debates

  • @Zaabi
    @Zaabi Місяць тому +45

    Not gonna lie the map was definitely made by people who ether never lived in Arabia or people who don’t know the Middle East- this is cursed

    • @adamnesico
      @adamnesico Місяць тому +1

      Any frontiers would be cursed.
      What would you draw instead?

    • @Zaabi
      @Zaabi Місяць тому +5

      @@adamnesico the Arabian peninsula, merging the Arabian cost states into the uae plus South Yemen including the Hormuz and Qashem islands

    • @friendlyreminder3280
      @friendlyreminder3280 29 днів тому +3

      I live in the middle east and this seems pretty good

    • @Zaabi
      @Zaabi 29 днів тому +2

      @@friendlyreminder3280living in the Middle East and being from the Middle East are two different things. And my point was that Arabias borders make zero sense

  • @NordicSupremacist
    @NordicSupremacist Місяць тому +185

    The American gon fix the French British mistake!

    • @utopia4056
      @utopia4056 Місяць тому +17

      Yea we thought the same thing about Vietnam.

    • @aehoward91
      @aehoward91 Місяць тому +6

      Ah we just need to spread manage democracy all they need is some freedom!

    • @jgw9990
      @jgw9990 Місяць тому +12

      ​@@utopia4056Pain. America missed an opportunity to stick it to the French and side with the Vietnamese. Britain basically advised France to leave as soon as possible, but France wouldn't listen.

    • @ChariTheAlternate
      @ChariTheAlternate Місяць тому

      Screw off

    • @thomasdevine867
      @thomasdevine867 Місяць тому +3

      Something has to be done. And anything that wasn't malicious or about control by outsiders would have to be better.

  • @AlexVictorianus
    @AlexVictorianus 28 днів тому +9

    But why keep the Islamist regime in Iran? A secular constitutional monarchy would be better.

  • @Kyle-qd2sy
    @Kyle-qd2sy Місяць тому +44

    A shame the Assyrian's don't get included in this. After the Assyrian genocide and attacks by ISIS they don't make up a lot of territory anymore but before WWI their population made up a decent amount of what is now south-east Turkey and north west Iraq.

    • @Lockfly
      @Lockfly Місяць тому +14

      The population of Assyrians in Iraq is that of a small town. Anyway Assyrians live in close proximity mostly with Ezidi Kurds who have outnumbered them for a couple hundred years now and have been their source of protection. If anything it would be way more feasible giving them a state or an Ezidi-Assyrian state.

    • @kacgb5315
      @kacgb5315 Місяць тому

      Ya source of protection and their genociders to😂, double edged sword ig, the kurds were useful to the Turks when they wanted other minorities dealt with but ay assyrians can't do much since the population is so low and muslims surround them

    • @xianxiaemperor1438
      @xianxiaemperor1438 Місяць тому +3

      Exactly! what a waste.

  • @legendtroll7501
    @legendtroll7501 Місяць тому +92

    I'm gonna be real. I can understand 99% of the rest of the map. But please enlighten to me as to why major turkish cities in southern anatolia are given to Syria? Kurdish freedom? Understandable. Cyprus united with autonomy? Ok. But how do you justify giving actual majority turkish lands to Syria I am very curious. Even antioch, which Syria actually claims, is today majority turkish in basically every map I have seen in my life.This just does not make sense.

    • @Altair-El-Haddad
      @Altair-El-Haddad Місяць тому +28

      It was Syrian lands way back, that's why.

    • @ayyybob
      @ayyybob Місяць тому +33

      It's majority turkish, end of story ​@@Altair-El-Haddad

    • @Altair-El-Haddad
      @Altair-El-Haddad Місяць тому +10

      @@ayyybob not really, it has always been Syrian lands, just like golan heights.

    • @physetermacrocephalus2209
      @physetermacrocephalus2209 Місяць тому +19

      ​@@ayyybob
      Thats should not be how decisions are made. By that logic things like colonialism, wars of agression and ethnic cleansing are all just and logical which in reality or not.
      All human ethnic groups should have thier territory restricted to only thier indigenous lands. We should treat ourselves like the animals we are. Indigenous populations are proven and supported. Unindigenous populations are all deported back to wherever science says the genes are from.
      TL;DR Aparthied aka traditional nationalism as how all of civilzation worked before things like colonialism and wars of agression ruined.

    • @ayyybob
      @ayyybob Місяць тому +8

      @@physetermacrocephalus2209 y'know what you do have a point, I'm sorry for what I said

  • @legchairhistorian5496
    @legchairhistorian5496 Місяць тому +43

    Wow I’m first 23 seconds, this seems like a very controversial video. Making spheres are reminiscent of the Sykes picot I must say.

  • @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
    @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 Місяць тому +102

    What if we glass it from orbit instead? Much less problems.

    • @utopia4056
      @utopia4056 Місяць тому +15

      That would work of they had done what they did for no reason. You cant destabilize an entire region for 50 years and then wonder why they cant get along. Thats like expecting africa to be peaceful after the french left. Nice way to show how little you know about this though.

    • @jgw9990
      @jgw9990 Місяць тому +5

      ​@utopia4056 Before those 50 years, things were kept stable by the Ottoman Turks basically ruling over the Arabs. Maybe its better, maybe not.

    • @crusader2112
      @crusader2112 Місяць тому +1

      ​@jgw9990 Indeed. Specifically Jews, Christians and Muslims were living in relative Peace under the Ottomans, then came European Zionist J*ws which in turn radicalized the Muslims.

    • @duquedealbadetormes6117
      @duquedealbadetormes6117 Місяць тому +17

      ​@@utopia4056Sooo...
      Let's just glass Africa.
      Problem solved.

    • @1650th
      @1650th Місяць тому +1

      Not before I come for you

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Місяць тому +17

    That thumbnail is awesome! You never dissapoint

  • @kieranthomas8190
    @kieranthomas8190 Місяць тому +22

    I don’t see the point in splitting off the Southeastern coast of Egypt, considering that it’s mostly Sunni Arab, just maybe with a higher portion of Coptic Christians. I could see a case for an independent/autonomous Sinai state though considering the unrest in the region. Also, the Jordanian-Israeli solution makes sense, but neither Egypt nor Jordan wants to accept Palestinians because they’re too radical. Look at what happened in Black September. But maybe in this world Palestinians are more content on having a Palestinian/Hashemite state on the East bank of the Jordan River (which seems unlikely).

  • @okman9684
    @okman9684 21 день тому +3

    Why we call it the Middle East. Its literally middle of nowhere in a spherical globe 😑

    • @Noric.Morava
      @Noric.Morava 19 днів тому

      Because mediaeval and rennesance Europeans viewed todays turkey as east and china and mongol steps as far east. As such, this middle area became known as middle east.

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 Місяць тому +10

    the fez with a Z is what I picture Lord Zedd from Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers to wear on Casual Fridays

  • @xianxiaemperor1438
    @xianxiaemperor1438 Місяць тому +6

    It's a real shame that there isn't an Assyrian Republic on this but oh well such is life I suppose...

    • @samankucher5117
      @samankucher5117 Місяць тому +1

      there should be one but unfortunately most of them now live in Europe and Amirica .

  • @Mast3r0fTheUniverse
    @Mast3r0fTheUniverse Місяць тому +16

    😂 I doubt the Turks would tolerate this. 😂

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  Місяць тому +28

      No one is asking for their consent.

    • @Mast3r0fTheUniverse
      @Mast3r0fTheUniverse Місяць тому +5

      @@MonsieurDean a plan guaranteed to fail. Making me laugh 🤣🤣😂🤣🤣 even harder now.

    • @adamnesico
      @adamnesico Місяць тому

      @@Mast3r0fTheUniverseAs any plan is doomed to fail, lets just sell them weapons.

    • @Mast3r0fTheUniverse
      @Mast3r0fTheUniverse Місяць тому

      @@adamnesico as long as we don’t put any boots on the ground.

    • @ArmaGeddon-iu1vv
      @ArmaGeddon-iu1vv Місяць тому +4

      ​@@MonsieurDean "No one is asking for their consent."
      This is the usual final remark before disaster hits

  • @desichalkos5627
    @desichalkos5627 Місяць тому +21

    Giving the region around lake Van to the kurds is as indefensible as the current status quo. That land was Armenian in every sense of the word until the genocide, and giving it to the kurds is just rewarding them for the massive role they played in said genocide (and the Assyrian one, too). As far as i'm concerned, their current persecution is punishment for being lapdogs of the turks.
    Does there exist a reality in which the Armenians don't get shafted at every opportunity?

    • @zgramzhnisk3036
      @zgramzhnisk3036 Місяць тому +9

      Give it to them and they end up being almost a minority in their own country, the region bordering Armenia and Lake Van has around 2-2.5 million people, Armenia itself has a population of 2.7 million. You would be creating a country where half the land and the population is not even Armenian, which would be unstable af.

    • @Lockfly
      @Lockfly Місяць тому +5

      So what? There's millions of Kurds there now and there's nothing to do about it. Kurds have also proven themselves to not be ethnically cleanable Saddam certainly tried and failed very badly.

    • @RK-cj4oc
      @RK-cj4oc Місяць тому +4

      ​@@LockflyThe Turks " cleansed" plenty a few years ago.

    • @sarantis1995
      @sarantis1995 Місяць тому

      The only viable alternate history for a strong Armenia is the Wilsonian Armenia but we missed this chance, didn't we?
      🇬🇷 🤝🇦🇲

    • @kylezdancewicz7346
      @kylezdancewicz7346 28 днів тому

      So you want to destabilize Armenia by giving them a massive “minority” that would be like 30+ percent of the population of the entire Armenian state because historically… Historically A controlled area B is a stupid argument that is illogical and ignores such thing as the actual situation.

  • @datdumbguy1067
    @datdumbguy1067 Місяць тому +20

    Middle East belongs to Albania. Give it all to Albania, except Kuwait, they stay.

  • @ColdHighway7
    @ColdHighway7 Місяць тому +3

    How to fix the ME: Get the hell out of the region, eliminate foreign aid and the only money that goes there is through trade

  • @wilpikle7754
    @wilpikle7754 Місяць тому +12

    Damn of course we are gonna forget the Assyrians and Chaldeans RIP

    • @MPHJackson7
      @MPHJackson7 Місяць тому +2

      He probably didn't include them since he was only focusing on states big enough to not get conquered by other states

    • @johnthestringray
      @johnthestringray 28 днів тому +3

      ​@@MPHJackson7then why the little 4 coastal states in Lebanon and Syria. Those would be eaten up by Israel or the big Syria quite quickly.

  • @iggymag
    @iggymag Місяць тому +3

    This just seems to me like another batch of poor borders made by someone who has not lived or is from the middle east

  • @adamhenrywalker
    @adamhenrywalker 16 днів тому +2

    How about no borders? Just one big country?

    •  8 днів тому

      As an Arab i giggled a bit ngl. Forcing Turks,Arabs, Jews, Kurds and Persians to live in one country is never going to happen. We arabs don´t even like eachother (ex. Lebanese christian vs. Lebanese muslims in the 70s/leb civil war or sunni and shia arabs)

  • @parlyramyar
    @parlyramyar Місяць тому +11

    How come Kurdish areas of mahabad and mukryan and ardalan regions are given to Azerbaijan and Iran? They are neither azeri turkish nor shia🤔

  • @theyakamoz1
    @theyakamoz1 Місяць тому +5

    RIP Assyrians not mentioned :(

  • @frasenp8411
    @frasenp8411 Місяць тому +14

    Interesting although I think your "solution" for Israel-Palestine is not at all good. Basically it is just removing Palestinians, from both historical Palestine as well as the Palestine with the current 1967 borders, and moving them to neighbouring countries which would just cause cross border conflicts as they would obviously still want to go back to their land and establish an independent state.
    Thus I don't see this leading to Israelis and Palestinians living peacefully together or apart. But then again it is a very complicated question and I am not expecting you to solve it here lol but I am surprised that you gave all of the 1967 borders to Israel though.

    • @user-oy2zg3bt6n
      @user-oy2zg3bt6n Місяць тому

      most Jordanians even today are "Palestinians" because of former policies and land was even part of the mandate for Palestine (until like 1922)
      the real problem is Palestinians not wanting Israel to exist (we changed nothing about the people remember) while also hating the Jordanian monarchy.
      even if all Palestinian were moved onto Jordan they would still overthrow the government and make another terror base/state (like they did in south Lebanon after black September, like in modern Gaza or how they attempted to do in Jordan which lead to black September)
      it would have probably eventually worked if we tried it from the start but as it is now, nope.

    • @frasenp8411
      @frasenp8411 Місяць тому +6

      @@user-oy2zg3bt6n I would definitely not say most Jordanians are Palestinians but the main issue is that both Palestinians and Israelis lay claim to the same land and both have ties to the land both historically and currently and a solution has to be made that is fair for both and also making sure Palestinian refugees can return but also making sure that no war errupts between Israel and Palestine after a two state solution (which is what most of the world supports)
      Also one of the reasons (but not the only one) Palestinian refugees don't get citizenship is because the countries don't want to legitimize Israel expelling them which would encourage more of that but rather they want them to be able to return when an independent state is created

    • @user-oy2zg3bt6n
      @user-oy2zg3bt6n Місяць тому +1

      @@frasenp8411
      1. but they are Palestinians, when Jordan was in control of the west bank there were marriages and movements that allowed Palestinian integration and sometimes later Jordan allowed some direct Palestinians to get citizenship, this made most Jordanians get Palestinian ancestors, like 60% or something like that.
      (they are also not that far off generically but besides the point)
      2. if not wanting to legitimize the fleeing from the area is indeed a reason but it's definitely a more minor one, besides it's not like they didn't do worse to Jews in the Arab world yet Israel the US and France took them in.
      now that i think of that, we are in a pointless argument, agree to stop?

    • @snakey934Snakeybakey
      @snakey934Snakeybakey 28 днів тому

      the "1967 borders" are a non-entity. Not a thing.

    • @Earthlybeing396
      @Earthlybeing396 24 дні тому

      Palestine never existed

  • @user-xp5id1kh4r
    @user-xp5id1kh4r Місяць тому +4

    @1:30 looks like an Elephant rearing on its hind legs

  • @anthonylandin6788
    @anthonylandin6788 Місяць тому +3

    No Matter how the borders are drawn the region will fall to into chaos with groups still fighr for more land

  • @mohammadhazraty2372
    @mohammadhazraty2372 Місяць тому +2

    We all know how peace can be achieved, and it's with Persia, Ottomans, and Mamluks

  • @Ali-bu6lo
    @Ali-bu6lo Місяць тому +2

    I don't have much comment on the other parts but the Iranian section seems very inaccurate to me.
    1) "Balochistan has more in common with Pakistan", What??? Pakistan has far more problems with Balochi separatism than Iran has ever had and Balochi nationalism is far more stronger there. Not to mention that based on observing the massive protests in Balochistan that happened in late 2022 alongside the rest of the country the Baloch population of Iran are patriotic and loyal to Iran but against the Islamic republic, this sentiment is seen both among the general population and their leadership such as Molavi Abdolhamid Ismaeelzahi. Sunni Kurds of Iran do have a historic ethno-nationalist movement but even among them there has been signs of change towards acceptance of Iranian national identity, which brings us to the second point.
    2) Iran has a strong civic nationalism that transcends the ethnic differences and is strongly rooted in history (just take a look at Shahnameh for example), I don't understand why westerners, of both left and right have a tendency to disregard this and imagine Iran as either some Yugoslavia to be broken apart or a state that can only be held together by religion.
    3) Keeping Iran as a Shia theocracy is not gonna make it stable. Almost 50 years of the "theocratic republic with a supreme leader" has secularized Iran far more than any other country in the region and there are even signs of Islam itself being in decline.

  • @sarantis1995
    @sarantis1995 Місяць тому +7

    As a Greek, I see this as an absolute win

    • @kylezdancewicz7346
      @kylezdancewicz7346 28 днів тому +2

      I’m just glad he didn’t do something stupid like say Greece should get Constantinople.

    • @meina0614
      @meina0614 20 днів тому

      @@kylezdancewicz7346it should.

    • @kylezdancewicz7346
      @kylezdancewicz7346 20 днів тому +1

      @@meina0614 Oh really, because theirs more Kurds living there then Greeks

    • @meina0614
      @meina0614 20 днів тому

      @@kylezdancewicz7346 i wonder why. Also most western Anatolians are just islamicized/turkicized Greeks anyway.

    • @kylezdancewicz7346
      @kylezdancewicz7346 20 днів тому +1

      @@meina0614 So your saying Greece could get the city based off nothing even though barely any Greeks live there anymore

  • @baconmikee4400
    @baconmikee4400 Місяць тому +32

    Probably one of your worst border redrawings, you could've done better I know you could.

    • @Izanagi057
      @Izanagi057 Місяць тому +2

      Explain

    • @a3cools115
      @a3cools115 Місяць тому

      He’s a zionist so no

    • @rlmartinez26
      @rlmartinez26 Місяць тому

      His solution is to remove the Palestinians from Palestine in favor of Israel is that enough?

    • @kylezdancewicz7346
      @kylezdancewicz7346 28 днів тому +2

      @@Izanagi057There’s just some weird decisions I believe, like why turn Iran into the neo-Persian empire, it’s just a weird decision. Giving Cyprus to Greece is a bit strange, and Turkey lost Turkish lands to the UAR. The Egyptian coast being independent is pointless and his idea of a two state solution sees Israel get all it land and more and the he just tells the Palestinians to just move to Jordan.

  • @physetermacrocephalus2209
    @physetermacrocephalus2209 Місяць тому +27

    If only the Baath party did not go completely insane. Oh well lmao.

    • @crusader2112
      @crusader2112 Місяць тому +2

      Thoughts on Antoun Saadeh?

    • @PatagoniaAries
      @PatagoniaAries Місяць тому +5

      Sometimes it be like that
      At least al Assad is still alive

    • @crusader2112
      @crusader2112 Місяць тому +8

      @@PatagoniaAries Can't Mossad the Assad! Hehe

    • @MegrelMamba
      @MegrelMamba Місяць тому

      ​@@crusader2112I miss when people with European descent didn't d-ride muslim leaders

  • @dudua3755
    @dudua3755 7 днів тому

    This video makes me remember that unless the guy is a doctor of middle eastern history, no one will never understand the middle east like a middle easterner. FFS.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Місяць тому +32

    Suggestion: What if Greece realized the Maegeli idea?.🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷

    • @user-uo8gw2li2q
      @user-uo8gw2li2q Місяць тому

      Hypothetical situation
      The Greeks elect an extremist as Prime Minister, they prepare themselves for a war, they invade Turkey and begin to carry out a genocide of Turks in Istanbul and other Turkish cities and regions.
      Do you really think that the international community would support the Greeks if they try the Megali Idea, the Greeks will be seen as villains and the Turks as victims (I am neither Turkish nor Greek).

    • @sarantis1995
      @sarantis1995 Місяць тому +1

      You'd have a bigger Greece and a very angry Turkey. Britain wouldn't allow it though

    • @olbiomoiros
      @olbiomoiros Місяць тому

      @@sarantis1995true. Britain France and the US wouldn’t. But what would be the case today, not just about Greece, but any other country. Britain and France are gradually being reduced to average European countries.

  • @Pyxis216
    @Pyxis216 Місяць тому +2

    Bahrain in this map is too op for its size due to oil and gas. While Iran lost alot of its oil producing region to Iraq.

  • @Lol-ql3gd
    @Lol-ql3gd 22 години тому

    As an khuzestani-irani-arab i can say that no arab in southern iran wants to break from Iran. same with the Iranian azeris in the north.

  • @firemangan
    @firemangan Місяць тому +3

    The people at funeral homes gona be making big money

  • @JF-rh5vq
    @JF-rh5vq 29 днів тому +1

    never let this guy cook again

  • @deathsquad8891
    @deathsquad8891 Місяць тому +9

    >gets to Palestine and Israel
    I am sure these comments will be civil.

    • @MegrelMamba
      @MegrelMamba Місяць тому +3

      Dear România,
      Annex Serbia, Bulgaria, and Hungary
      🙏🏿🙏🏿

    • @that1dudeintheinternet
      @that1dudeintheinternet 29 днів тому

      Dear Romania,
      Stop making vampires in your country.

  • @tengiz
    @tengiz 28 днів тому +1

    Well I'd never think that I would see someone creating worse borders than British

  • @j.m.d.a1496
    @j.m.d.a1496 Місяць тому +2

    It should be divided into Greater Israel and Greater Kurdistam

  • @zionmolina3039
    @zionmolina3039 Місяць тому +5

    Could it be? I don't think it possible.

  • @inductivegrunt94
    @inductivegrunt94 Місяць тому +2

    The mistakes of past empires fixed thanks to present hindsight. And this is why the local population should dictate their borders and not greedy imperials not even on the same continent.
    Not a perfect map, but a better one than the middle east we have today thanks to British and French meddling.

  • @georgesoros4223
    @georgesoros4223 Місяць тому +1

    I stopped at Jordan assuming responsibility for the Palestinians, the Jordanian did try to do that and in return, hundred of Jordanian police and armed forces were killed in an attempted overthrow of the Jordanian king. The Jordanians will never forgive nor forget what the Palestinians did.

  • @matthewmoser1284
    @matthewmoser1284 Місяць тому

    I'm a big fan of creating several different types of maps which focus on a single homogeneous zone. Separate maps for resources, defensible terrain, water, arable land, languages, religions, and ethnic divisions.
    Then overlay each map to find regions which have a balance of things like arable land, water and resources, but which compose the vast majority of the population having the same language, culture, and religion.
    The first part prevents resource wars, while the second reduces internal strife.

  • @syphonie
    @syphonie Місяць тому

    can you do every continents borders redrawn??

  • @hreedwork
    @hreedwork 26 днів тому

    I think i remember you making this video when you were reviewing games. Very good method to explain ideas! 😎👍🙏

  • @williaminnes6635
    @williaminnes6635 Місяць тому +3

    *sips Sykes Pekoe tea* I'm sorry, old boy, the western borders of Iraq are not up for discussion.

  • @zeinnanla5422
    @zeinnanla5422 Місяць тому +1

    Merely splitting Shia and Sunni isn't really a solution when the mere existence of Sunnis and Shiites isn't what's sparking conflict. A pan-Arab secular union of states as was promised to the Arabs before Sykes-Picot seems like the most reasonable option.

  • @stevejohnson3357
    @stevejohnson3357 Місяць тому

    I noticed changes to the borders of Yemen but don't remember hearing about it. It has been an area trouble by religious divisions for a long time but how would these new boundaries change that?

  • @bnbcraft6666
    @bnbcraft6666 Місяць тому +16

    I noticed you have Nagorno-Karabahk to Azerbaijan 🤨, that region was entirely Armenian before September 2023

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  Місяць тому +8

      And now?

    • @bnbcraft6666
      @bnbcraft6666 Місяць тому +14

      ​@MonsieurDean should the Armenians not be allowed to return home without fears of genocide in this hypothetical scenario?

    • @MegrelMamba
      @MegrelMamba Місяць тому +4

      ​@@bnbcraft6666I guess this map is entirely based on what the ethnic lines are currently. If he based it off of historical interpretation it would need much bigger pre-planned research.

    • @bnbcraft6666
      @bnbcraft6666 Місяць тому +3

      @MegrelMamba he give ethnic Turkish parts of southern turkey to Syria

    • @MegrelMamba
      @MegrelMamba Місяць тому

      @bnbcraft6666 Oh I just noticed

  • @lilSaltee
    @lilSaltee Місяць тому

    Please complete the series! Europe, Africa, s america, central america, canada, rest of asia, oceania, etc

  • @Geomaverick124
    @Geomaverick124 Місяць тому

    I agree with the exception of cyprus. Either it stays split or its given to Turkey...Turkey winds up not only losing territory but gets boxed in by Greece which will cause tension.

  • @Gruyntake
    @Gruyntake 29 днів тому +2

    *Greeks watching this video :
    🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

  • @MrAmhara
    @MrAmhara Місяць тому +12

    You don’t even know what the “ Middle East” is if you have a map of the “ Middle East “ including Pakistan, Turkey, Afghanistan ect.

    • @talesferreiralimadossantos8806
      @talesferreiralimadossantos8806 Місяць тому +2

      These countries have close relations with some nations of the "true" Middle East, so that's why they were involved.

    • @samankucher5117
      @samankucher5117 Місяць тому

      that makes it the greater middle East .

  • @ragingnoah
    @ragingnoah Місяць тому +8

    Now do this with the Balkans

    • @1650th
      @1650th Місяць тому +7

      I do not want another world war

    • @TheTrex9000
      @TheTrex9000 Місяць тому +1

      @@1650th Austrians learned this the hard way

  • @Omnigreen
    @Omnigreen 6 днів тому

    Was it too hard to put names on countries?

  • @matthiuskoenig3378
    @matthiuskoenig3378 Місяць тому

    10 minutes seems abit short for the number of changes shown.

  • @JonathanSladkoTV
    @JonathanSladkoTV Місяць тому +1

    Most of this sounds pretty good, but turkey would absolutely hate this lol

  • @A_foranonymous
    @A_foranonymous Місяць тому +1

    A guy on youtube did what two huge empires couldn't 😂

  • @The_Real_Grim_Reaper
    @The_Real_Grim_Reaper Місяць тому +1

    I think Balochistan would work better as a part of the Persian empire either as a client state or autonomous region rather than given to Pakistan.

  • @DarkSora12892
    @DarkSora12892 Місяць тому

    I think alittle more labeling would definitely help those of us with minimal knowledge on the region

  • @SamuelChac0n
    @SamuelChac0n 18 днів тому

    iran wouldn’t call itself persia that’s a foreign name

  • @zigzag4273
    @zigzag4273 29 днів тому

    Why would Egypt give it's Red Sea coast any autonomy? I don't get it. There isn't a separatist movement, insurgency or anything that warrants autonomy. If anything the autonomy should be granted to the Nile Delta.

  • @Dyache2
    @Dyache2 Місяць тому +1

    you should do South Asia next

  • @theuniverse5173
    @theuniverse5173 Місяць тому +3

    The comments are going to become fun

  • @rosscalverley
    @rosscalverley Місяць тому +1

    What if New Zealand-Lebanon existed?

  • @even_cooler_name_w_israel
    @even_cooler_name_w_israel Місяць тому +2

    saudi arabia turned into a void ;c

  • @K-Talks217
    @K-Talks217 Місяць тому

    I think although this could be ethnically right, We also need to consider that natural resources should be evenly distributed or else more conflict will occur in the region. The reason why these borders are so highly contested because of their natural resources that they possess like Oil and Natural Gas. Also, I think the USA played a large in creating instability in the region while trying to bring peace in the region as well.

  • @faulttix
    @faulttix Місяць тому +2

    could i suggest u make a playlist of ur redrawn borders videos? also amazing video!

  • @flaxbadas
    @flaxbadas Місяць тому +3

    You make it worst ☠️

  • @ronanmahaffey2996
    @ronanmahaffey2996 Місяць тому +1

    Nah. Give it all to Britain.

  • @dappy9988
    @dappy9988 8 днів тому +1

    WHO LET THE EUROPEANS DO IT AGAIN NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @eoachan9304
    @eoachan9304 Місяць тому +1

    Good intentions, and mostly sensible...except NOONE in the Middle East wants the Palestinians due to their tendency to be associated with their radical and troublesome "leaders" who cause problems. Such as that the Palestinian leaders years ago tried to actually take over Jordan(and failed)! The Egyptian government also had a go at looking after the Palestinians, and then washed their hands of them. One expects that if the troublemakers amongst the Palestinian people could be separated from them they would be much more welcome...this would involve preventing the funding of radicals by Iran of course, and supporting the more peaceful moderates.

  • @PhilipLaSnail
    @PhilipLaSnail 28 днів тому +6

    As an Israeli, I see this as an absolute win.
    A free Kurdistan?!
    A democratic Jordan?!?
    A weaker Syria?!?!
    OUR HOMELANDS NOT BE THREATENED BY TERRORISTS?!?!
    That is a wet dream for us.

    • @uncle.tedkaczynski
      @uncle.tedkaczynski 25 днів тому +1

      Terrorists? Define terrorists since y’all keep attacking us since 1948

    • @khurramzafar
      @khurramzafar 6 днів тому

      Uh oh, here comes the Nazi calling the Resistance to Apartheid as terrorists! Everyone step back, the Fashy boi's got some hard opinions!

  • @PrussiaAustriaConfederal
    @PrussiaAustriaConfederal Місяць тому +1

    We need this. The Middle East is just a place where America steps in needlessly because of stupid borders.

    • @adamnesico
      @adamnesico Місяць тому

      No border will leave them satisfied.

  • @israilkolas5853
    @israilkolas5853 29 днів тому +1

    I mean Hatay, Adana and Antep are mostly Turkish though not Arab

  • @user-tw8rx3wy7j
    @user-tw8rx3wy7j 6 днів тому

    "i tHiNK AlL oF tHis ShOUld bE pARt Of tuRKiYe🤓🤪" -whatifalthist

  • @david_n_nettey
    @david_n_nettey Місяць тому

    My family is from Ghana. I would love to see you do Africa next

  • @GnosticAtheist
    @GnosticAtheist 4 дні тому

    Dude, the borders between us (Norway) and the evil Swedish Empire is far more important. We are talking miles of contested material that at least a few academics talk about occasionally.

  • @alibouaichi547
    @alibouaichi547 22 дні тому +1

    Bro made it worse 💀

  • @ayyybob
    @ayyybob Місяць тому +8

    As an arab, my only problem with this map is that it makes the perfect opportunity for a cold war between Iran and Saudi Arabia to happen, which is...not good...at all...
    Also, i think the two-state solution is much better for the jews and pals than the one-state solution

    • @josephfriedman1305
      @josephfriedman1305 Місяць тому +2

      He is saying that Jordan is the 2nd state in the 2 state solution.

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  Місяць тому +6

      You already have a much worse Cold War between the two. At least this will cease the largest land and power disputes between them.

    • @ayyybob
      @ayyybob Місяць тому +1

      @@MonsieurDean okay you got a point, but I feel like the whole "mini autonomous states" thing would give Iran and KSA too much land, and will also make the gulf very divided and open to conflicts

    • @ayyybob
      @ayyybob Місяць тому +3

      @@josephfriedman1305 I think the pals wouldn't want to leave their home and go to Jordan, plus I don't understand how israel and Jordan become best friends in this timeline it just doesn't make any religious, historical or beneficial sense

    • @Chr0n0s38
      @Chr0n0s38 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@ayyybobThe bigger issue is Palestinians are anti-monarchy. They actually assassinated one of Jordan's kings a few decades ago.

  • @matousparpel1788
    @matousparpel1788 Місяць тому +1

    How are these videos made, where do i draw like this

    • @genericbeansmile756
      @genericbeansmile756 Місяць тому

      I don't know exactly what process Mr Z uses but if I had to replicate the effect I would find a well-scaled map online, use a basic photo editor to fill in each country with a different color, put the original map into a Powerpoint slideshow, make the next slide the map with the country filled in, add a frame transition effect, and repeat for however many frames are needed, voicing over the whole thing at the end.

  • @RVMaz
    @RVMaz 28 днів тому +1

    There is a problem with drawing the borders of the middle east.
    Eventually someone will be pissed off.
    Because at the time these borders were made there were relatively little issues since the population was low and they cant really oppose the borders.
    The problem with this border is that while yes there would be less conflicts between saudi arabia and iran ,1 only has to look once at the situation of the arabs to know they are in a bad spot.
    This is because they have a smaller population and they are now virtually surronded by iran.
    Infact this is the whole reason why saudi arabia invovled itself in yemen and it is not far fetched that they will try it again.
    Additionally there is no such thing as total military independence since nations have invovled themselves here for the sake of oil and other resources and if they do not invovle directly they would support regimes friendly to them in their fight against other countries.
    In short u and ur team have ur work cut out for you but it is best to make sure a power balance exist and countries are roughly divided among ethnic lines(you and ur team did a great job at this)

  • @user-ig9yl9cw5q
    @user-ig9yl9cw5q 26 днів тому +1

    Well show me one country, which only includes one ethnicity and one religion. People just need to learn to mind their own business... Egyptian Muslims and Christians appears to be perfectly fine with each other and the Greek minority is living there for some 2500 years already. If only the Mossad... I mean ISIS would get out of the Sinai...

  • @willyshadoo
    @willyshadoo 10 днів тому

    Ok as a Palestinian Muslim i do have some complaints ill try not to be to biased
    1: if your plan was to make Jordan the new Palestine you should have given it Palestinian land notably the west bank, east Jerusalem and a railway connecting them to the gaza strip which they would also own. This would also compensate Jordan for loosing their northern territories
    2: there's no need for an Egyptian autonomous zone, egypt does not need to be changed
    3: Azerbaijan shouldn't be an iranian proxy. Although they are both shia Azerbaijan is more culturally and ethnically similar to turkey

  • @alecnygard1769
    @alecnygard1769 Місяць тому +4

    Thank you I’ve been missing your more traditional alt history videos so much!

    • @MonsieurDean
      @MonsieurDean  Місяць тому +1

      youtube.com/@DeanMonsieur?si=tgkyUuHE3lDkWqtn

  • @directorjames1855
    @directorjames1855 Місяць тому

    What if the United States never provided aid to the USSR, and the USSR surrendered to the Germans? I can’t find any videos on this, and I think it would be interesting.

  • @alexanderjaruk
    @alexanderjaruk Місяць тому

    This is going to work SOOOOOOO well, just like the last five-hundred times we tried shit like that...

  • @janrudnicki6111
    @janrudnicki6111 Місяць тому +3

    You forgot aBout Armenia and her historical conflicts with Kurdish people Turkey and Azerbaijan that why this boaders cant work.

    • @samankucher5117
      @samankucher5117 Місяць тому

      thats why i said make Armenia and Azerbaijan and the kurds live in one country that has a federal government and local governments.
      nowadays kurds are chill with arminans they can keep the azaries in check and the azaries will keep kurds and arminans in check and that way they will avoid wars over land disputes because they all will be living in a federal country where they can live where ever they want .

    • @janrudnicki6111
      @janrudnicki6111 Місяць тому

      It was like this in the times of the Russian Empire and the USSR - it was probably the only time when Armenians were not subject to ice genocide against this nation.

    • @samankucher5117
      @samankucher5117 Місяць тому

      @@janrudnicki6111
      not exactly because back in those days the Russians helped arminans against kurds and azaris . even after that i think the arminans actually ethnically cleansed kurds from red Kurdistan region of the ussr when the Russians were last in control of that regon.

    • @janrudnicki6111
      @janrudnicki6111 Місяць тому

      @@samankucher5117 Detection of the purges is not very appropriate here - it can only be compared to the genocide in Volhynia and Eastern Lesser Poland in 1943.

    • @samankucher5117
      @samankucher5117 Місяць тому

      @@janrudnicki6111
      i don't know what you mean about that can you elaborate?

  • @elkoikan5993
    @elkoikan5993 Місяць тому

    I love how Greece is part of the Middle East! Their culture, tradition, and climate fit perfectly