J press looks like they have a good selection of everything a sharp dressed man could want in his wardrobe. Totally saving up to check out that store in the future.
Tom Ford makes clothes for a different customer. I'm not saying that gay guys will always make a certain type of clothing or all express the same sensibility, but certain very fashion forward designs and gender ambiguous designs would almost always come from a gay male. I think directionally Thom Browne had the right idea-- slimmer suits are great-- but I think he took it to the point of absurdity. In my opinion the high button stance is VERY unflattering and so are the ultra short lengths.
What does a person's sexuality have to do with what the size of a suit is? Besides, cropped trousers have been around since late 2009-'10 so your point about "dumb trends" seems quite invalid.
You're right, trends never appear less prominently at an earlier point, and if they last for longer than five minutes they immediately stop being a trend.
Okay now you've made sense since you've clarified a bit. But referring to your last sentences, just because your view on his type of suit's silhouette is negative doesn't mean it'll be for someone else's taste. It's just a different take on the suit that is simply just a different style on how to wear it. Some like it high cropped and short like Browne's design, some like it slim, some like it super skinny, it just varies with each person's preference.
The challenge with traditional American clothing is, it doesn't travel well. I don't mean it wrinkles, I mean it calls attention to the wearer, and not in a positive manner.
Thom Brown is too skin fit for me (I'm athletic, and small frame, but having a big ribcage and wide shoulders), it's actually and HELL to find something suiting to my body type ... The only suits that I found that goes pretty well for me are old school wide shoulders type YSL or Mugler from the eighties. It was a pretty cool style of fitting. Someone here in the same case that I am ?
I'm not sure what the point of the rudiments section is supposed to be about in this episode. It's a fine tip, but it wastes a whole segment which could have actually taught one of the rules.
I agree with the years-old comments knocking Thom Browne. We can credit him and his ilk for the epidemic of skinny suits with skinny lapels, skinny ties, high button stances with the tie visibly hanging beneath, and high water pants. Frankly, it's a problem when the effeminately gay male fashion designers make clothes for themselves and even the likes of Brooks Brothers sell out to their trends in the hope of capturing a younger, hipper market. I also disagree with the commenter saying it was disrespectful to laugh at his runway fashions. Screw him! You present skirts for men with a straight face, you deserve a few guffaws.
I can see where you're coming from since I've seen what you've seen when it comes to that but if you want evidence on what I'm talking about just look at Tom Ford. Tom's gay and you would never even hint at it since he wears regular, everyday menswear. I'm doubting what you've typed down because what you're saying is a general assumption. You're right about waiting a little longer to see if that style stays but just remember, fashion goes in cycles so in 20 years it'll probably be back anyways.
a person's sexuality, in MANY cases influences his style of design and what appeals to him...for better or for worse. You're using a 2-3 year period of time as proof that the Thom Browne look is NOT a trend? I think we need to wait a little longer. The fact of the matter is that, in 20 years, nobody is going to be wearing this shit and it's going to look even more ridiculous than it looks now.
High respect to Mr. Walter and J Press!
Jay Walter is one of the last legends of the men's ivy/trad institution, he was so much more fascinating than Thom Browne...great interview!
love the beat for the end credits... oh & the thom browne interview
Love this interview
Fantastic stuff; thanks for putting this up.
Nice, I really liked the contrast between the two interview subjects. I'd love to see you guys take a good look at vests one day...
I love this show
J press looks like they have a good selection of everything a sharp dressed man could want in his wardrobe. Totally saving up to check out that store in the future.
Very nice.
A man with a set of balls never I repeat never sits crosslegged
loved it
Anyone who puts out a three-legged trouser deserves to be mocked. I'm talking to you, Thom Browne.
+Bigwave2003 thanks a lot "Bigwave2003" from the youtube comments
+Bigwave2003 "Anyone who puts out a three-legged trouser deserves to be mocked." -Bigwave2003
A powerful and respectable statement.
Tom Ford makes clothes for a different customer. I'm not saying that gay guys will always make a certain type of clothing or all express the same sensibility, but certain very fashion forward designs and gender ambiguous designs would almost always come from a gay male.
I think directionally Thom Browne had the right idea-- slimmer suits are great-- but I think he took it to the point of absurdity. In my opinion the high button stance is VERY unflattering and so are the ultra short lengths.
What does a person's sexuality have to do with what the size of a suit is? Besides, cropped trousers have been around since late 2009-'10 so your point about "dumb trends" seems quite invalid.
You're right, trends never appear less prominently at an earlier point, and if they last for longer than five minutes they immediately stop being a trend.
thom browne reminds me of paul smith, classics with a twist
Okay now you've made sense since you've clarified a bit.
But referring to your last sentences, just because your view on his type of suit's silhouette is negative doesn't mean it'll be for someone else's taste. It's just a different take on the suit that is simply just a different style on how to wear it. Some like it high cropped and short like Browne's design, some like it slim, some like it super skinny, it just varies with each person's preference.
The challenge with traditional American clothing is, it doesn't travel well. I don't mean it wrinkles, I mean it calls attention to the wearer, and not in a positive manner.
complete opposite to you, 115 pounds and 6'0 so impossible to find off the rack stuff that fits me, have you tried brooks brothers?
Thom Brown is too skin fit for me (I'm athletic, and small frame, but having a big ribcage and wide shoulders), it's actually and HELL to find something suiting to my body type ... The only suits that I found that goes pretty well for me are old school wide shoulders type YSL or Mugler from the eighties. It was a pretty cool style of fitting. Someone here in the same case that I am ?
I'm not sure what the point of the rudiments section is supposed to be about in this episode. It's a fine tip, but it wastes a whole segment which could have actually taught one of the rules.
hooray
This made me want to go to J Press, excellent stuff. Thom Browne's stuff is terrible
I agree with the years-old comments knocking Thom Browne. We can credit him and his ilk for the epidemic of skinny suits with skinny lapels, skinny ties, high button stances with the tie visibly hanging beneath, and high water pants. Frankly, it's a problem when the effeminately gay male fashion designers make clothes for themselves and even the likes of Brooks Brothers sell out to their trends in the hope of capturing a younger, hipper market. I also disagree with the commenter saying it was disrespectful to laugh at his runway fashions. Screw him! You present skirts for men with a straight face, you deserve a few guffaws.
I can see where you're coming from since I've seen what you've seen when it comes to that but if you want evidence on what I'm talking about just look at Tom Ford. Tom's gay and you would never even hint at it since he wears regular, everyday menswear. I'm doubting what you've typed down because what you're saying is a general assumption.
You're right about waiting a little longer to see if that style stays but just remember, fashion goes in cycles so in 20 years it'll probably be back anyways.
a person's sexuality, in MANY cases influences his style of design and what appeals to him...for better or for worse.
You're using a 2-3 year period of time as proof that the Thom Browne look is NOT a trend? I think we need to wait a little longer. The fact of the matter is that, in 20 years, nobody is going to be wearing this shit and it's going to look even more ridiculous than it looks now.