Rest in peace Christopher Hitchens.. the world absolutely needed you for a bit longer. I would have loved to hear his thoughts during these crazy times in 2020. It's difficult to truly believe that he's gone when his aura jumps to life off the screen at you.
The absolute chasm between this brilliant argument and Hitch’s bizarre and unaccountable support for the Iraq war a mere two years later is incredibly difficult for me to come to terms with. How many Iraqi men and women were better human beings in every respect than Mr. Cheney? We’ll never know.
Who was he? I remember seeing a meme/little post today mentioning him and another guy and something to do with Genocide and America? I only clicked this video because he was mentioned here.
"...a one-man, international, rolling crime wave began..." Hitch used language as if it was his invention. His words glistened. I picture him in the afterlife - despite his beliefs - opining with Plato and the rest...and still getting the bulk of the audience questions at the end of the discussion!
Take 21:48 Relax and Enjoy a genius at play 11:38 Stay Safe Stay Free 12:06 nothing changes 2023, and the governments and their friends and family are all hands on the tiller. 15:13 😂 Hitch is dead long live Hitch 16:45 😂 Freedom of choice and speech is all we have. 18:28 😂 I am a veteran of the RAF for 28yrs. Op Warden in the 80s, keeping the Kurdish people safe. On days off, the Turkish Airforce would go, and 'Protect The Kurds'. Heavy armed and come back empty of all weapons. PTSD lives in me 24 7. 24:51 Covid is our Nixon. The Lawnmowers of Death rolling along. So sad. 26:45 Peace and love etc
The description of Kissinger as a psuedo intellectual of the think-tank community is physical detail. This was supported by Christopher through describing Kissinger's creative works as not empathized by "Shelley." 5:07
1:05:40 - Geneen -- Harold Hal "Sydney" Geneen -- was indeed the CEO of ITT (from 1959 to 1977). As it happens I read, many decades ago "The Sovereign State Of ITT", and I would recommend it to others. Edit: Amazon has the book, hardcover/used, for $5.50 (US) + shipping.
Vietnam, Cambodia, Indonesia, E. Temor, Chile, Cyprus, Argentina, Greece, Iran, Turkey. So much of the chaos, strife, conflict, violence, wars, withering of democracy and death across the globe in the turbulent 70's was wrought from or the direct consequence of this evil man.
Invidia refers to envy, spite, or resentment towards someone’s success or possessions. It is often associated with the concept of “looking against” or “looking in a hostile manner,” as seen in Latin roots such as “invidere,” meaning “to look too closely.” looking closely at the questioners i think he means
It gives me some solace to think that millions of people pray for Christopher Hitchens and millions curse Kissinger, especially in the far east and South America.
I am from Brasil and had family killed and tortured by the military regime. It is a good thing Kissinger is no more, has ceased to be, and is bereft of life
Damn! The audio engineer must to have been smoking crack. Even with the volume cranked all the way up I can’t hear much. Christopher Hitchens legacy ensures his immortality, tis shot of Johnnie Walker Black is on Hitch 🥃 miss him dearly.
One thing I found so strange Hitch nailed the flaws and hubris of kissenger then later caught in a similar conundrum agreeing with the catastrophic invasion of Iraq.
Henry Kissinger was the first person chosen by the Bush regime to head the 9/11 Commission. After certain family members of the victims of the attack found out about this they raised a big noisy stink, and demanded that Kissinger reveal his political connections to the Bush administration, Kissinger bowed out on his own. He was then replaced by Philip D. Zelikow - Executive Director/Chair, who was no less connected to the Bush administration and in fact had written a book together with Condoleezza Rice . It was under the influence of Zelikow that Bush and Cheney were treated with kid gloves. Thomas Kean & Lee H. Hamilton wrote a book sometime later where they stated that they thought that they were set up to fail. And fail the Commission did indeed. Their report was a total whitewash. The same thing can be said about the NIST investigation, which was a politically motivated finding that is a scientific fraud. Now this is something that Hitchens himself would argue with voraciously, denying that the government itself was behind the attacks. This is a problem of the mainstream press being nothing more than a system of propaganda. \\][//
+Willy Whitten "a total whitewash. The same thing can be said about the NIST investigation, which was a politically motivated finding that is a scientific fraud" - Give the scientific reasons behind your assertion, or withdraw it. You won't because you can't. www.nist.gov/topics/disaster-failure-studies/world-trade-center-disaster-study +Jazzkeyboardist "how many americans and british died in Chrissy hitchens Iraq war?" - Fewer than died in WW2. A battle to remove another murdering despot, remember? Kissinger et al are definitely slimeballs, REAL slimeballs, but you and the above are merely _tiny_ slimeballs trying to make your _tiny_ livings the same way, but _way_ more weakly. You two are just a couple of gathering flies to be flicked off the wounds to the body politic. You have nothing to offer except disease and maggots.
for us deaf ppl if vol in high one can turn it down but if is low as on this clip then even on max at all systems it becomes useless, simply can not hear the damn thing
Never can understand he said these things and then went on to support exactly the same face saving position by supporting the Iraq war. He was a walking talking contradiction or a catch22
I somewhat understood his position because he fiercely opposed totalitarianism and saw it as an opportunity to topple a brutal government-- but I think everyone was in a trance at the time of 9/11 and the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Definitely not an excuse because a great thinker like Hitchens should have caught himself for supporting something that seemed to be against everything he stood for in his criticisms of Kissinger. I think if he was still alive today, he would admit that he was wrong.
Hitch, if there is any way possible in the universe you'll hear this, I'm sure you'd be happy to know Kissinger has finally dead. Not that you'll ever run into him where you've risen to.
@@vs71597 I really don’t know. But would you agree that if you were God and wanted to prove your existence, could you pick a more believable atheist than Hitch?
@@vs71597this is so ironic. Chris had said many times he wouldn’t even want to go to heaven as it was described. But ok let’s for a second assume that Chris in his life had good morals, and didn’t harm anyone. That should in theory give him the ticket to heaven. But then god would shun Chris because of the blasphemy? That’s exactly chris’ point! That god is arrogant and vein and requires adornment if you’re to enter into his eternal party room regardless of your true morality during life . I guess god and Diddy might get along actually…
3 months before 9/11 Hitchens was a critic of US imperialism. Then Hitchens would start his metamorphosis from a butterfly back into a slug, as George Galloway put it.
Of those two, Galloway is the slug. I just love the hypocritical, monochrome, one dimensional world view of the anti-war left. Hitchens oppossed Saddams fascism and murderous, torturing dictatorship, and he supported his removal. For this, the left assumed he was pro-Bush, a neo con, an imperialist and so on. Of course the left does not use this logic on themselves. Kissinger. for example was AGAINST the intervention in Iraq. Does this mean that you rubentala4762 is a supporter of Kissinger and all his policies and opinions?? For God sake, listen to his arguments and critisizm of Bush and the Iraq War! His support for the Kurds and the Iraqi democratic movement. It had nothing to do with “imperialism”. You can actually be for an idea or action WITHOUT supporting or holding the same opinions as OTHER people who are for the same course of action. As I have just shown with the Kissinger example. Or you DO perhaps hold the same opinions and ideas as Kissinger just because you’re both against the Iraq War?!?
@TommyGlint I’m with you dude, but Hitchens was wrong about Iraq I think only because the cost in treasure, American/coalition and Iraqi lives, etc. was too high for what was gained (basically nothing but a weak Iraq in the origin which was the goal all along I guess). I’m with Hitchens on his support for the Kurds and democracy in Iraq but it was never a reasonable ambition sadly. You could say the same about Afghanistan to a lesser extent.
@@TommyGlintanti war left? don't make me laugh. you war mongers all sound the same, but routinely suffer from a lack of education. your biases toward US foreign policy have enslaved you. If you don't have access to books, let me know.
Putin advised strenuously against the Iraq war; that they did it anyway was a major component of his growing cynicism of America's values. That cynicism drivrs his resentment & disdain of the USA & her lapdogs, which is why he so keenly cites US/NATO precedents for his own horrific behavior. In this sense, he is the embodiment of Hitchens's justice for crimes of the Kissingeresque kind. Trump too would fit his importation of the sin of cavorting with authoritarians, though who would have predicted his path, though some that knew him well did (like David Cay Johnston).
I am so not a marxist like the late great Hitchmeister but, what an orator, i simply love his articulation & arguments - very compelling for a 'lefty' humanist & persuasive too - just as i dont agree ideologically as todays leftist are simply too extreme
Please, you goons can't define leftist without a dictionary. Your inability to dismiss propaganda and think for yourself is tragic, but understandable considering the level of miseducation that exists within the west and its slave allies.
I wouldn’t even say the people you’re talking about on the left: the regressive left who spends too much energy on inanity or issues of the far distant past which have little return on time investment in terms of justice in the here and now and thereby in the future (the near future at least); or at least tryst have a disproportionate concern with matters of much lesser import including one they haven’t even fleshed out the ethical and more often practical implications of and then obsess over them while Kissinger lives until 100 dying 2 weeks ago yet still thinks they’re fighting the good fight - fortunately these people are just a loud and intentionally amplified segment of the left, encouraged by the corporatist elite to do their bidding often unwittingly though social-ethical apathy is the default state of far too many people just wanting a nice easy middle class or upper middle class life while avoiding their greater social responsibilities and instead adopting these small, inane, counterproductive ones like excessive use of HR depts and disciplinary boards and admissions administrator non-academics who endless grow in number increasing cost to education and adding negative utility yet serving the interests of the administrators and others in power. It’s all fucked up in this neoliberal world. I’m frankly skeptical we’ll even be able to show the rate of the decline for more than small bits of time let alone reverse it.
A war to remove a genocidal dictator (Sadam massacred tens of thousands of Kurds and various religious minorities and would have exterminated them entirely if able) and an intervention in the affairs of sovereign nation experiencing a civil war which was a result of post-colonial France's blunders in Indochina on behalf of a military dictator in the name of fighting Communism are different things. To consider the Iraq War justifiable and the Vietnam War a war of aggression are compatible views. And you don't have to think War against the Ba'athist Party in Iraq to justified to support it, it's leaders or it's execution. Speaking for myself, I consider the Iraq War a worthy enough cause to go to war (if there is a cause enough to go war) but I do not believe the Bush administration went to war for that purpose or that the invasion was handled at all competently. Vietnam on the other hand, was a complete disaster from start to finish, for everyone involved.
I'm amazed you still have this much time on your hands to disparage the dead. It's so incredible, I'm not even mad, I'm just in awe that another human being gets such drawn-out pleasure from trolling. I didn't think it was possible.
Yes, trolling. That. Why do you actually take the time to write that out? What happened in your life that makes you want to shitpost? I want to know. Is it really that amusing to you? Why is baffling strangers so important to you?
Not that I expected an answer. I would have been surprised if you had. Somehow I knew you were going to call him Chrissy again, and again celebrate his mother's suicide. At least come up with some new material, change the record or it's going to get stale.
The Congress of Vienna created 99 years of peace between the great powers. An unheard of accomplishment. Hitchens was historically illiterate i suppose?
How does one square this with his support for the Iraq war? I don't think one can cherry pick foreign wars of aggression. He just wanted to sell books. Another in a long line of such overly self-promoting hucksters.
It's a question I've been pondering for some time as well. I think the comparison between Vietnam and Iraq is not simple; Saddam Hussein was a genuine dictator who actually commited genicidal acts, and Iraq was not as transparently a showdown in an imperialist conflict between superpowers. I also suspect that Hitchens would have been decidedly less eager for war had Iraq not been most Islamic given his almost vitriolic dislike of Islam.
It’s hard even for those like hitch to fully process historical, massive, sudden events in real time rather than in retrospect - especially when it likely directly impacted him/his friends and his new country. Plus, the events involved many of his existing strongly held beliefs and pre-existing bias/views likely made it easier for him to fall to the propaganda and emotion of it all. We will never know exactly why/how, but there is a clear differential between pre and post 9/11 hitch. All just criticism considered - I’d say it is a huge compliment to the large swath of his audience who are able to both appreciate pre-9/11 hitch and criticize post-9/11 hitch without entirely tossing him out and ignoring his value - or in 2019-2021 terms ‘without canceling him.’ Props to all of you for continuing to use your critical thinking.
I think Hitch was convinced that Islamo-fascism (and its growing horrors and atrocities) needed to be weakened significantly, and it could be argued that the toppling of Saddam’s regime certainly hastened that weakening, much to the benefit of our allies, though not without tremendous cost of life and resources.
Being wrong about one war doesn’t make the argument about a different set of ‘wars’ wrong, particularly when it comes to the facts underlying those cases. And of course he wanted to sell books. That hardly makes him more of a self promoting huckster than any other author. If you want to contest the case he lays out against Kissinger, then do it. Otherwise, your comment is itself one from a self promoting huckster who has nothing to bring to the case at hand other than his clear disdain for the man rather than the case.
don't ever delete this priceless masterpiece of intellect.
A shame we lost Hitchens at such a young age. Rip dear man.
And a shame we lost Kissinger so late.
@@ordinarymammal6007 Great quip friend! And so very true.
We lost Hitchens in truth years before he passed. But this is a great reminder is he once was actually great.
@@rawbebaba No we didn't. He was consistent and awesome to his last day. Just sayin.
@@shawn6669 lol. Okay so you've never seen any of his work then.
Kissinger just died, I expect this video to make the rounds again.
One can only hope.
Already popped up in my feed. Right at the top.
Here I am!
One is in hope
may he rot in hell w nixon, bush, reagan, ford and j. edgar.
Kissinger still being praised as a great statesman and some kind of wise man to this day is incredibly infuriating
@@xshxr All the peoples in the world, rejoice
Amen@@xshxr
people who think life is a game that can be won. ☮️
Allow it to further your reach from the contemporary mindset, then.
I couldn't have said it better myself! A true POS!
Rewatching this on Dec. 1st 2023, the day of Kissinger’s death. It’s a shame that he never saw justice-a shame on our entire system, that is.
The ultimate proof that there is no universal, divine justice: Hitch is dead and Kissinger still alive.
Yes indeed there is no justice, look at the millions killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, the wars which Hitch supported.
Biden?
Kissinger was a lot cooler than he was. So there is justice.
Lol war CriMEs Are BaSED lOL okay Nickel back!
Hitch was too woke to be alive though
Good riddance to Kissinger, the "one man international rolling crime wave".
A Hitchens lecture I haven't seen? Let the fun begin.
Now may be a good time to see it again . Henry Kissinger is no more, he is a dead Kissinger, he went to see his maker downstairs.
Losing access to this tremendous intellect is a loss to the Western World.
We were offered a window, not access.
Unfortunately we lost it long before he died when he suddenly became extremely pro-war. Like Kissinger himself.
Rest in peace Christopher Hitchens.. the world absolutely needed you for a bit longer. I would have loved to hear his thoughts during these crazy times in 2020. It's difficult to truly believe that he's gone when his aura jumps to life off the screen at you.
True true
The absolute chasm between this brilliant argument and Hitch’s bizarre and unaccountable support for the Iraq war a mere two years later is incredibly difficult for me to come to terms with. How many Iraqi men and women were better human beings in every respect than Mr. Cheney? We’ll never know.
Who came hear after the beast has died?
Me
Who was he? I remember seeing a meme/little post today mentioning him and another guy and something to do with Genocide and America? I only clicked this video because he was mentioned here.
Present
Me too
Hitchens died before this video was uploaded lol.
"...a one-man, international, rolling crime wave began..."
Hitch used language as if it was his invention. His words glistened. I picture him in the afterlife - despite his beliefs - opining with Plato and the rest...and still getting the bulk of the audience questions at the end of the discussion!
I so wish I could hear this but it's so low I cannot. Guess I'll just have to read the book.....
that's how nazis roll
Take 21:48
Relax and Enjoy a genius at play 11:38
Stay Safe
Stay Free 12:06 nothing changes
2023, and the governments and their friends and family are all hands on the tiller. 15:13 😂
Hitch is dead long live Hitch
16:45 😂
Freedom of choice and speech is all we have.
18:28 😂
I am a veteran of the RAF for 28yrs.
Op Warden in the 80s, keeping the Kurdish people safe.
On days off, the Turkish Airforce would go, and 'Protect The Kurds'.
Heavy armed and come back empty of all weapons.
PTSD lives in me 24 7.
24:51
Covid is our Nixon. The Lawnmowers of Death rolling along. So sad. 26:45
Peace and love etc
Rest in peace, Hitch. Rest in piss, Kissinger.
The description of Kissinger as a psuedo intellectual of the think-tank community is physical detail. This was supported by Christopher through describing Kissinger's creative works as not empathized by "Shelley." 5:07
The fact that Hitchens dies before Kissinger is terrible but at least Henry is dead now. Perhaps he'll pay for what he did.
No he won't
"One-man international rolling crime wave." Only Hitchens would indict someone in such a manner!
He was a legend
1:05:40 - Geneen -- Harold Hal "Sydney" Geneen -- was indeed the CEO of ITT (from 1959 to 1977). As it happens I read, many decades ago "The Sovereign State Of ITT", and I would recommend it to others.
Edit: Amazon has the book, hardcover/used, for $5.50 (US) + shipping.
This might be the quietest video on youtube.
Vietnam, Cambodia, Indonesia, E. Temor, Chile, Cyprus, Argentina, Greece, Iran, Turkey. So much of the chaos, strife, conflict, violence, wars, withering of democracy and death across the globe in the turbulent 70's was wrought from or the direct consequence of this evil man.
'...and tell him he can only receive visits from baroness thatcher - which may not be cruel but is certainly fucking unusual' LOL
Kissinger the War Criminal.
Anyone know what the word he uses at 52:12 is and what it means? Invidia?
Invidia refers to envy, spite, or resentment towards someone’s success or possessions. It is often associated with the concept of “looking against” or “looking in a hostile manner,” as seen in Latin roots such as “invidere,” meaning “to look too closely.”
looking closely at the questioners i think he means
Miss this man. Who will now take up the banners? I can think of no one.
Four years later do you think anyone has come close yet?
Surely Douglas Murray could be identified as taking up Christopher Hitchens' banner, no?
12 years on, still no one
Old HAK is still visiting the White House at age 94.
I came to love Kissinger and then I learned to be disgusted with him! Thanks Christopher Hitchens!
Lock him up in The Hague!
Amazing book
Relevant even now more than ever!
It seems to me that the more evil you are the longer you live, how in the world KISSINGER still alive and C Hitch is dead
Becaaaauuuuse " the whole world is in the grip of the evil one." 1 John 5:19
He's dead now at least
Volume too low
Proof that an atheist can be moral and noble.
I had hopes that Hitch had written an obituary for Kissinger, to be taken out of the vault when the time came.
why bother to upload anything with such appauling sound quality? boost it up and post it when it's fit to be audible or don't bother
Check your speakers, they must be dying.
No, nice is correct, the sound cannot be raised to audible levels on this one
in that case check your ears, they must be dying.
turn up the volume, old man
When the questions were inaudible the Hitch repeated them before he answered you plonker.Jim.Liverpool.
Turn it up!!
55:15 is incredibly haunting.
It gives me some solace to think that millions of people pray for Christopher Hitchens and millions curse Kissinger, especially in the far east and South America.
I am from Brasil and had family killed and tortured by the military regime. It is a good thing Kissinger is no more, has ceased to be, and is bereft of life
@@cronistamundano8189 exactly 💯
Kissinger may have outlived Hitchens but the conflagration that Hitchens has brought to bear on that criminal may yet bury him.
So Kissinger is finally dead! Like if you were googling his name and found your way here. 🎉
In fine form, perfect execution. Roll over, HK.
The Giant Intellectual. RIP Christopher Hitchens
How much we miss you Christopher....
Damn! The audio engineer must to have been smoking crack. Even with the volume cranked all the way
up I can’t hear much.
Christopher Hitchens legacy ensures his immortality, tis shot of Johnnie Walker Black is on Hitch 🥃 miss him dearly.
Crack is part of a balanced diet
A peaceful, orderly, democratic transfer of power...one only has to think back to January 6, 2021. I wonder what Hitchens would be saying today.
One thing I found so strange Hitch nailed the flaws and hubris of kissenger then later caught in a similar conundrum agreeing with the catastrophic invasion of Iraq.
Didn't he admit not long before he died that he was very wrong about the invasion
You’re comparing a war criminal like Kissinger to Hitchens? That’s ridiculous.
Hitchens implied that since the U S was responsible for installing Saddam Hussein, that they should be responsible for removing him.
@@deniseg-hill1730he did
He didn't like the way it was done.
What would he say about the war in the levant now?
The timing of this is prescient; months before 9/11 when Kissinger was originally tapped to handle the government commission.
Kissinger outlived Hitchens. The world kinda sucks.
What about Ali Khamenei
Nothing has changed either domestically or foreign. In fact its got worse.
Henry Kissinger was the first person chosen by the Bush regime to head the 9/11 Commission. After certain family members of the victims of the attack found out about this they raised a big noisy stink, and demanded that Kissinger reveal his political connections to the Bush administration, Kissinger bowed out on his own. He was then replaced by Philip D. Zelikow - Executive Director/Chair, who was no less connected to the Bush administration and in fact had written a book together with Condoleezza Rice . It was under the influence of Zelikow that Bush and Cheney were treated with kid gloves. Thomas Kean & Lee H. Hamilton wrote a book sometime later where they stated that they thought that they were set up to fail. And fail the Commission did indeed. Their report was a total whitewash. The same thing can be said about the NIST investigation, which was a politically motivated finding that is a scientific fraud. Now this is something that Hitchens himself would argue with voraciously, denying that the government itself was behind the attacks. This is a problem of the mainstream press being nothing more than a system of propaganda.
\\][//
+Willy Whitten
"a total whitewash. The same thing can be said about the NIST investigation, which was a politically motivated finding that is a scientific fraud" - Give the scientific reasons behind your assertion, or withdraw it.
You won't because you can't. www.nist.gov/topics/disaster-failure-studies/world-trade-center-disaster-study
+Jazzkeyboardist
"how many americans and british died in Chrissy hitchens Iraq war?" - Fewer than died in WW2. A battle to remove another murdering despot, remember?
Kissinger et al are definitely slimeballs, REAL slimeballs, but you and the above are merely _tiny_ slimeballs trying to make your _tiny_ livings the same way, but _way_ more weakly. You two are just a couple of gathering flies to be flicked off the wounds to the body politic. You have nothing to offer except disease and maggots.
Subscribing to you... I think9-11 was "not how they told us"
Do you feel 9/11 was an inside job/false flag or that there were different reasons why it was a scandal?
You're beyond help.
God I wish, Hitch was here today. He'd have some things to say I do not doubt.
Was Mr. Hitchens an Hictorian or was it just one of his many gifts.
He had a degree in politics and philosophy. He was not a historian scholar, just one of his talents as a writer I suppose
Yeah, I would have loved to see The Hitch outlive Kissinger.
Interesting that this was about 10 weeks before 9/11 apparently wiped the memories and redirected the attention of everyone
thank you Hitchen
for us deaf ppl if vol in high one can turn it down but if is low as on this clip then even on max at all systems it becomes useless, simply can not hear the damn thing
This was 75 days before 9/11
u beat me!
I can well imagine what Christopher would have thought about Fauci.
1:15:19 Hitchens blanking audience member at the door. The guy in the blue.
Sorry there is not a hell for Henry Kissinger to go to.
Power and Hyprocrisy are synonymous!
So sad that absolutely nothing has been done after Hitch’s stunning accusations. Does anyone care anymore?
I didn't know CSPAN aired silent movies..... any Chaplin or Keaton coming soon?
"Do you want to live in a society that has less respect for the rule of law and democracy than the British House of Lords?"
😂
that was a few weeks before 911.
Don’t understand what happened to Hitchens that he could make this case while falling the need for war in Iraq
I’m glad I’m not the only one thinking the same while watching this, idk why all the comments aren’t about this unreal hypocrisy. How the mighty fall!
His arguments were valid.
Your point indicates you've heard a one liner and not the detailed arguments.
The figurehead is only the tip of the monster
I think Kissinger somehow gave Hitchens cancer. he's somehow responisbe for his illness & death 😈
I've just had this same thought.
Lyfe aint fair ,as was mentioned at the start.
Rest in Peace,
God bless sir
Hitchens 🙏🏻👼🏻
He didn't believe in God
@@Tracy-k3m He revealed this on his death bed . Did you not follow this eulogy proceeding.
@@mctwain5319 Sure, Jan...sure.
They ALL reveal it on the deathbed, eh... What a bullshit accusation. 🤦
@@danaclass All do !
Never can understand he said these things and then went on to support exactly the same face saving position by supporting the Iraq war. He was a walking talking contradiction or a catch22
I somewhat understood his position because he fiercely opposed totalitarianism and saw it as an opportunity to topple a brutal government-- but I think everyone was in a trance at the time of 9/11 and the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Definitely not an excuse because a great thinker like Hitchens should have caught himself for supporting something that seemed to be against everything he stood for in his criticisms of Kissinger. I think if he was still alive today, he would admit that he was wrong.
here _JC
Volume sucks
Hitch, if there is any way possible in the universe you'll hear this, I'm sure you'd be happy to know Kissinger has finally dead.
Not that you'll ever run into him where you've risen to.
Do you think God let him in after all of his blaspheming? I would have thought there was a big chance but not after Hitch went full pro-war
@@vs71597 I really don’t know. But would you agree that if you were God and wanted to prove your existence, could you pick a more believable atheist than Hitch?
@@vs71597this is so ironic. Chris had said many times he wouldn’t even want to go to heaven as it was described.
But ok let’s for a second assume that Chris in his life had good morals, and didn’t harm anyone. That should in theory give him the ticket to heaven. But then god would shun Chris because of the blasphemy? That’s exactly chris’ point! That god is arrogant and vein and requires adornment if you’re to enter into his eternal party room regardless of your true morality during life . I guess god and Diddy might get along actually…
Mr. Hitchens: I'm Catholic, we have been witnessing the Great Apostasy, AND MOTHER TERESA WASN'T EVEN CATHOLIC!
Why participate in fairy tales? Reality is much more interesting.
3 months before 9/11 Hitchens was a critic of US imperialism.
Then Hitchens would start his metamorphosis from a butterfly back into a slug, as George Galloway put it.
Of those two, Galloway is the slug.
I just love the hypocritical, monochrome, one dimensional world view of the anti-war left.
Hitchens oppossed Saddams fascism and murderous, torturing dictatorship, and he supported his removal. For this, the left assumed he was pro-Bush, a neo con, an imperialist and so on.
Of course the left does not use this logic on themselves. Kissinger. for example was AGAINST the intervention in Iraq. Does this mean that you rubentala4762 is a supporter of Kissinger and all his policies and opinions??
For God sake, listen to his arguments and critisizm of Bush and the Iraq War! His support for the Kurds and the Iraqi democratic movement. It had nothing to do with “imperialism”.
You can actually be for an idea or action WITHOUT supporting or holding the same opinions as OTHER people who are for the same course of action. As I have just shown with the Kissinger example.
Or you DO perhaps hold the same opinions and ideas as Kissinger just because you’re both against the Iraq War?!?
Is national sovereignty absolute? Kill as many you'd like, as long as it's within your own borders?
@TommyGlint I’m with you dude, but Hitchens was wrong about Iraq I think only because the cost in treasure, American/coalition and Iraqi lives, etc. was too high for what was gained (basically nothing but a weak Iraq in the origin which was the goal all along I guess). I’m with Hitchens on his support for the Kurds and democracy in Iraq but it was never a reasonable ambition sadly. You could say the same about Afghanistan to a lesser extent.
@@TommyGlintanti war left? don't make me laugh. you war mongers all sound the same, but routinely suffer from a lack of education. your biases toward US foreign policy have enslaved you. If you don't have access to books, let me know.
Putin advised strenuously against the Iraq war; that they did it anyway was a major component of his growing cynicism of America's values.
That cynicism drivrs his resentment & disdain of the USA & her lapdogs, which is why he so keenly cites US/NATO precedents for his own horrific behavior.
In this sense, he is the embodiment of Hitchens's justice for crimes of the Kissingeresque kind.
Trump too would fit his importation of the sin of cavorting with authoritarians, though who would have predicted his path, though some that knew him well did (like David Cay Johnston).
Cornwallis could be put on trial.
As bad as Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Reagan, Clinton, Putin; what is worst is that Kiss
I think he was murdered
Yeah. Throat cancer has a long history as weapon.
To think that Kissinger is probably looking up at us this very moment.....T
I am so not a marxist like the late great Hitchmeister but, what an orator, i simply love his articulation & arguments - very compelling for a 'lefty' humanist & persuasive too - just as i dont agree ideologically as todays leftist are simply too extreme
Indeed, I'm politically non aligned.
"Leftist" is a political catch-all for the intellectually bereft.
Please, you goons can't define leftist without a dictionary. Your inability to dismiss propaganda and think for yourself is tragic, but understandable considering the level of miseducation that exists within the west and its slave allies.
I wouldn’t even say the people you’re talking about on the left: the regressive left who spends too much energy on inanity or issues of the far distant past which have little return on time investment in terms of justice in the here and now and thereby in the future (the near future at least); or at least tryst have a disproportionate concern with matters of much lesser import including one they haven’t even fleshed out the ethical and more often practical implications of and then obsess over them while Kissinger lives until 100 dying 2 weeks ago yet still thinks they’re fighting the good fight - fortunately these people are just a loud and intentionally amplified segment of the left, encouraged by the corporatist elite to do their bidding often unwittingly though social-ethical apathy is the default state of far too many people just wanting a nice easy middle class or upper middle class life while avoiding their greater social responsibilities and instead adopting these small, inane, counterproductive ones like excessive use of HR depts and disciplinary boards and admissions administrator non-academics who endless grow in number increasing cost to education and adding negative utility yet serving the interests of the administrators and others in power. It’s all fucked up in this neoliberal world. I’m frankly skeptical we’ll even be able to show the rate of the decline for more than small bits of time let alone reverse it.
I wouldn't allow kissinger to die naturally. Just saying.
Vietnam a war of aggression? Hitchens was all over the map. He was more than happy to invade Iraq
A war to remove a genocidal dictator (Sadam massacred tens of thousands of Kurds and various religious minorities and would have exterminated them entirely if able) and an intervention in the affairs of sovereign nation experiencing a civil war which was a result of post-colonial France's blunders in Indochina on behalf of a military dictator in the name of fighting Communism are different things. To consider the Iraq War justifiable and the Vietnam War a war of aggression are compatible views.
And you don't have to think War against the Ba'athist Party in Iraq to justified to support it, it's leaders or it's execution. Speaking for myself, I consider the Iraq War a worthy enough cause to go to war (if there is a cause enough to go war) but I do not believe the Bush administration went to war for that purpose or that the invasion was handled at all competently. Vietnam on the other hand, was a complete disaster from start to finish, for everyone involved.
Oh my Christ, you're still making the rounds.
I'm amazed you still have this much time on your hands to disparage the dead. It's so incredible, I'm not even mad, I'm just in awe that another human being gets such drawn-out pleasure from trolling. I didn't think it was possible.
Yes, trolling. That. Why do you actually take the time to write that out? What happened in your life that makes you want to shitpost?
I want to know. Is it really that amusing to you? Why is baffling strangers so important to you?
Not that I expected an answer. I would have been surprised if you had. Somehow I knew you were going to call him Chrissy again, and again celebrate his mother's suicide.
At least come up with some new material, change the record or it's going to get stale.
The Congress of Vienna created 99 years of peace between the great powers. An unheard of accomplishment. Hitchens was historically illiterate i suppose?
CH would have been 74 on the 15th of next month.
No, he died in December. He shares Jefferson's birthday, April 13th.
The tragedy of this is that Hitch supported so many wars himself .
Such a simplistic comment.
@@ParkerBG but historically accurate .
Henry’s brief moment in the sun
Makes me wish Christianity (or at least some parts) had more literal truth than it does.
Problem with sound quality is - There is no bloodthirsty sound!. I call on UA-cam to banish this rubbish!!!,
assalamu alaikum Chris,, ya prick
Omg 💩
How does one square this with his support for the Iraq war? I don't think one can cherry pick foreign wars of aggression.
He just wanted to sell books. Another in a long line of such overly self-promoting hucksters.
It's a question I've been pondering for some time as well. I think the comparison between Vietnam and Iraq is not simple; Saddam Hussein was a genuine dictator who actually commited genicidal acts, and Iraq was not as transparently a showdown in an imperialist conflict between superpowers. I also suspect that Hitchens would have been decidedly less eager for war had Iraq not been most Islamic given his almost vitriolic dislike of Islam.
It’s hard even for those like hitch to fully process historical, massive, sudden events in real time rather than in retrospect - especially when it likely directly impacted him/his friends and his new country. Plus, the events involved many of his existing strongly held beliefs and pre-existing bias/views likely made it easier for him to fall to the propaganda and emotion of it all. We will never know exactly why/how, but there is a clear differential between pre and post 9/11 hitch. All just criticism considered - I’d say it is a huge compliment to the large swath of his audience who are able to both appreciate pre-9/11 hitch and criticize post-9/11 hitch without entirely tossing him out and ignoring his value - or in 2019-2021 terms ‘without canceling him.’ Props to all of you for continuing to use your critical thinking.
I think Hitch was convinced that Islamo-fascism (and its growing horrors and atrocities) needed to be weakened significantly, and it could be argued that the toppling of Saddam’s regime certainly hastened that weakening, much to the benefit of our allies, though not without tremendous cost of life and resources.
Yeah right! ha! ha! human stupidity is infinite! QED
Being wrong about one war doesn’t make the argument about a different set of ‘wars’ wrong, particularly when it comes to the facts underlying those cases. And of course he wanted to sell books. That hardly makes him more of a self promoting huckster than any other author. If you want to contest the case he lays out against Kissinger, then do it. Otherwise, your comment is itself one from a self promoting huckster who has nothing to bring to the case at hand other than his clear disdain for the man rather than the case.
Kissinger will never be missed, or will be missed as a liar or a agent of chaos.
There's always a women's rights perma-offended person in the audience. She hasn't listened to a word he said, just her own twisted thoughts.