I pre ordered 4 of these, but then the 2TB type. They will be installed in an Asus Hyper m.2 Gen 5 card. Ryzen 9000 series cpu's have 28 pci-lanes. So in total 8 pci-lanes for my Hyper card, 16 lanes for my graphics card and 4 pci lanes for the chipset :)
When a semiconductor device like this has million versions of the same thing. I assume that there is a problem with yields. As there are few reasons to have such variations in a single device. It has to be that the binning process is creating a wide range of dies that do not hit the expected spec.
I mean this is just standard operating procedure for so much computer hardware. The best binned chips become the halo products, and the lower spec stuff become lower-grade SKUs, be it a higher or lower clocked DRAM to the difference between Core i3, i5, i7, i9. They're not gonna throw away Silicon because it didn't meet max yield.
@@aznhomig Generally correct. Previous Samsung drives had, normally two versions, A Pro and an EVO. Now they add an EVO plus. To make at least three versions of the same 990 drive.
@@alexandru8936 The 990 Pro runs too hot. So nix that. The EVO plus line used to have DRAM and was the best of the 3. Not anymore. The EVO is the worst of the 3, so never buy. Better advice is to buy the T500 which is the best Gen 4 drive in the market. It runs the coolest, priced the same as the EVO Plus, it has DRAM, and runs circles around the 990 Pro, Evo Plus, and EVO. Heck you can get cheaper drives for the same performance as the EVO Plus. The MSI Spatium series of drives offer the same speeds for cheaper and it runs a tad bit cooler. Check out the MSI Spatium M482 2TB (DRAM-less like the EVO Plus, speeds are the same, cheaper by $30).
The Crucial T500 is a better buy than any of the 990 EVO, Plus or pro version of NVMEs. It only costs 7 bucks more than the 990 EVO Plus has DRAM and runs cooler. It was tested without a heatsink and no air and it only hit 65*C; with a heatsink the T500 only hit 52*C (tech testers YT channel). It runs much faster than the 990 EVO plus (even beats the 990 Pro). Sammy needs to step up their SSD game.
I have been asking for higher gen and less lanes for the longest time. Imagine getting to have full bandwidth of your gpu with half the lanes allocated.
I"m happy to finally see x2 NVMe drives comming to the mass-market, but as long as you won't be able to allocate how much lanes your slot use, it's uselfullness will be moot. For now, no matter what you plug on any M.2 (storage) slot, in 99% of the case, 4 lanes will be reserved for it.
Great video. Would you consider reviewing the new rtx 2000 ada 16gb gpu? No one has made a meaningful video on it, and I have to use commercial-grade gpus since they support 64x msaa for 3d modeling. Consumer grades only go up to 16x 🤦♂️
4x4/5x2 maybe they know the computer future will have some issue for provide enough pcie lanes High speed signaling is complex and expensive , less lanes overall platform makes sense (keep cost and price reasonable)
All these tests are of no use to me if at sustained speed it does not maintain a transfer of at least 50% of its maximum transfer speed at his complete capacity.
It's really a jungle for Samsung SSD... As you already review SSD for the console PS5, can the Samsung 990 EVO PLUS be a good option for gaming or do we need to keep searching for a Samsung 990 PRO ?? I'm confused now....🤔 Oh .. I wrote my message before the end of the video... it's NOT good for gaming.. OK ....
Excellent presentation. Thank you. I have always been fan of Samsung NVMe drives and have a bunch of PCIe 3 and 4 Pro drives. That said, I am not impressed with this drive and would not buy one. Frankly it shouldn't be considered an "EVO" in my opinion. It seems like they are leveraging that moniker and hoping folks wont do their homework.
@@alexandru8936 Every reason. A DRAM-less drive is only half a drive. It eases up wear and tear on the NAND cells. It's faster. Removing this feature turns it into a low-end device.
Please compare that to evo and 990 pro with graphs if its possible!
I pre ordered 4 of these, but then the 2TB type. They will be installed in an Asus Hyper m.2 Gen 5 card.
Ryzen 9000 series cpu's have 28 pci-lanes. So in total 8 pci-lanes for my Hyper card, 16 lanes for my graphics card and 4 pci lanes for the chipset :)
When a semiconductor device like this has million versions of the same thing. I assume that there is a problem with yields. As there are few reasons to have such variations in a single device. It has to be that the binning process is creating a wide range of dies that do not hit the expected spec.
I mean this is just standard operating procedure for so much computer hardware. The best binned chips become the halo products, and the lower spec stuff become lower-grade SKUs, be it a higher or lower clocked DRAM to the difference between Core i3, i5, i7, i9. They're not gonna throw away Silicon because it didn't meet max yield.
@@aznhomig Generally correct. Previous Samsung drives had, normally two versions, A Pro and an EVO. Now they add an EVO plus. To make at least three versions of the same 990 drive.
@Yandarval so witch one to choose? I have laptop msi raider 8SF. Witch one is the best ?
@@alexandru8936 The 990 Pro runs too hot. So nix that. The EVO plus line used to have DRAM and was the best of the 3. Not anymore. The EVO is the worst of the 3, so never buy. Better advice is to buy the T500 which is the best Gen 4 drive in the market. It runs the coolest, priced the same as the EVO Plus, it has DRAM, and runs circles around the 990 Pro, Evo Plus, and EVO. Heck you can get cheaper drives for the same performance as the EVO Plus. The MSI Spatium series of drives offer the same speeds for cheaper and it runs a tad bit cooler. Check out the MSI Spatium M482 2TB (DRAM-less like the EVO Plus, speeds are the same, cheaper by $30).
The Crucial T500 is a better buy than any of the 990 EVO, Plus or pro version of NVMEs. It only costs 7 bucks more than the 990 EVO Plus has DRAM and runs cooler. It was tested without a heatsink and no air and it only hit 65*C; with a heatsink the T500 only hit 52*C (tech testers YT channel). It runs much faster than the 990 EVO plus (even beats the 990 Pro). Sammy needs to step up their SSD game.
Agree..i also have the Solidigm P44 Pro for almost 2yrs now never had an issue ..Sammys now adays are a joke..
@@fog71 people said that the 44 pro had problems with the slc cache filling up and not emptying, did you encounter such problems ?
If they could release an 8 TB (and possibly even a 16 TB) model then these would make sense.
when it comes to gaming using it for a AM4 motherboard. Is it worth getting the 2TB Samsung EVO Plus????
I have the UGreen DXP2800. If you had to choose a specific SSD 1 for read and 1 for write as cache, what would it be?
You should look into the older Intel Optane drives
I have been asking for higher gen and less lanes for the longest time. Imagine getting to have full bandwidth of your gpu with half the lanes allocated.
I"m happy to finally see x2 NVMe drives comming to the mass-market, but as long as you won't be able to allocate how much lanes your slot use, it's uselfullness will be moot. For now, no matter what you plug on any M.2 (storage) slot, in 99% of the case, 4 lanes will be reserved for it.
expect pcie 5, 2 lane m.2s in mini-pcs and notebooks first
Essentially when fabricating the chips there are failures. They dont want to throw away potential $$
How would you rate the evo plus in comparsion to a 990 pro, thanks
we just need more pci lanes on consumer cpu's !
No need to get this; I looked up the GM7000, and the specs are almost the exact same, no big difference, and that cost $50.
Does it not benefit the Lane restricted NAS devices, like QNAP and their expansion cards? assuming of course the bottleneck isn't your network speed.
Great video. Would you consider reviewing the new rtx 2000 ada 16gb gpu? No one has made a meaningful video on it, and I have to use commercial-grade gpus since they support 64x msaa for 3d modeling. Consumer grades only go up to 16x 🤦♂️
4x4/5x2 maybe they know the computer future will have some issue for provide enough pcie lanes
High speed signaling is complex and expensive , less lanes overall platform makes sense (keep cost and price reasonable)
I was looking forward to this ssd but the lack of dram ruined it for me
does it work with DS920+?
3:04 You blew it even with the correction.
Dang! Well spotted. Brain fart! Will re re correct!
Not very impressive and suspect the price won't reflect that. Why bother...
Much lower power utilization. Great for laptops and external enclosures.
5:53 Having just one NAND chip will reduce performance with "defrags" (sic)
does it work with ps5
All these tests are of no use to me if at sustained speed it does not maintain a transfer of at least 50% of its maximum transfer speed at his complete capacity.
Have T500 for my PC and T500 for PS5.
It's really a jungle for Samsung SSD... As you already review SSD for the console PS5,
can the Samsung 990 EVO PLUS be a good option for gaming or do we need to keep searching for a Samsung 990 PRO ??
I'm confused now....🤔
Oh .. I wrote my message before the end of the video... it's NOT good for gaming.. OK ....
Lol I bet the guy who named Samsung drives is also the same guy who named USB
Excellent presentation. Thank you. I have always been fan of Samsung NVMe drives and have a bunch of PCIe 3 and 4 Pro drives. That said, I am not impressed with this drive and would not buy one. Frankly it shouldn't be considered an "EVO" in my opinion. It seems like they are leveraging that moniker and hoping folks wont do their homework.
EVo is the cheap shit. EVO < Samsung without anything (mostly OEM) < Pro bigger number = better
When Samsung 9100 pro gen 5 ssd released date please
Ps5 test ?
No DRAM no buy
yep
Same
Why so important?
@@alexandru8936 Every reason. A DRAM-less drive is only half a drive. It eases up wear and tear on the NAND cells. It's faster. Removing this feature turns it into a low-end device.
I can live without it if it lowers power consumption and instead puts the meta data for the drive on the PC's RAM via HMB.