We definitely need a new pen-f. Also, I believe it would help if OM did a refresh of their premium prime lens line. Improve the optical quality (looking at you, 17mm) and add weather sealing.
Fujifilm did the market research for them with the XM5. They just need to to do the RnD now. I’m hoping they make a new Pen F and take back their dominance with smaller cameras and lenses.
You're referring to the 17mm f/1.8 lens, right? I'm thinking of buying that one soon (I'm sick of the slow AF on the Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 I've been using). I don't love hearing that the image quality isn't great though -- maybe I should reconsider?
Yer I too want more of OM. Maybe an apsc sensor in a new OMX surely they can fit a larger sensor in that tank. We'd all love to see a Pen F remake but I think they should go back to the classic Pen styling for the EP8 remove the fully articulating screen and give it a portrait and landscape tilting screen to give it a photocentric appeal. Then a Lumix like video monster GHline,full HDMI socket with mic and headphone jack on opposite side of screen bracket. I'm guessing it's too late to make that in next om5 as I'm sure that's already in the works. Red thanks for keeping us informed and watch them squirrels around your acorns 😂
@@76steps "remove the fully articulating screen and give it a portrait and landscape tilting screen to give it a photocentric appeal. " The E-M10 has a tilt screen, I don't understand why there is a fully articulate screen on the OM-5.
When I unboxed my EM-1X and held it for the first time, it felt like the camera was custom built just for me. When it pair it with my 40-150 F2.8 lens, the balance is impeccable. I love everything about this camera and if OM Systems came out with a OM-1X, I would be among the first to purchase one.
I will add another vote for an OM-1X, for my E-M1X has been outstanding since obtaining it nearly two years ago. It simply "fits" and the ergonomics feel exactly as if made for my hands. Yes, there ARE a number of minor things that could certainly be tweaked and upgraded (the EVF is certainly usable but... ). Yes, it IS heavy compared to other bodies but I honestly don't notice it when I am out using it for landscapes or wildlife and the occasional rail or aviation images I take. It pairs well with the Pro glass choices I've obtained and the weather sealing is ideal for dusty/snowy western North Dakota/eastern Montana and occasionally a jaunt down to Wyoming or South Dakota. I don't hesitate to use it on days when it's colder here than in Alaska and having extra battery life only adds more points in its favor. I still want a bit more out of the sensor (who doesn't, eh?), especially after shooting the aurora here for the first time, but I'm not nearly as worried about bumping up the ISO as I was in my old 4/3 days. If OM came out with an upgraded version, I'd certainly not hesitate to obtain one, though I'd also never part ways with my E-M1X, either. I'm 57 and feel it a wee bit more every winter here, especially hiking around out in the badlands, but I didn't buy the body to be smaller. I bought it for its capabilities, even after seriously comparing systems and weighing the pros and cons of going to a larger sensor. With the internal processing and software options available today, it's really becoming a mute point in so many shooting situations.
Love my Om-1 but like others getting a bit frustrated with OM Systems and its lack of new products. The honeymoon is over and 2025 needs to see some new cameras coming out.
Consumers want yearly releases, yet make surprise pikachu face when the improvements are incremental. I really miss the good old days, when product releases were meaningful, instead of on a schedule. Fun fact - I used my previous camera for almost 10 years.
@@JezdziecBezNicka I would agree that we don't need annual releases, especially when the product is not different (OM-1i, OM-1ii) but Oly doesn't see any rangefinders in most markets, that's a giant hole in their line. And they don't have a rangefinder with an EVF.
Thank You for your thoughts and wishes to OMDS. I would like to see a really Wow-Camera like an OM-1X in the nearest future especially made for Wildlife Videographers with the best AutofokusSystem what the market can offer right now like a Sony or Canon. I think that can help to keep OM-System and the Micro Fourthird System in the Market. Best wishes, Roland
Completely agree with your thoughts on EM1-X. It was my favorite Olympus to date for use on the 150-400mm. Would love to see the technology you suggested in the larger form factor. As you suggested, it wouldn’t be a travel camera, but a truly professional body that could compete with Nikon Canon and Sony in the professional market. Hopefully along with that we would get a new sensor that could also compete with full frame. I’m obviously asking for a lot here, but we need more revolutionary products for micro 4/3 to grow.
I have been OM system, biggest supporter and critic, I just bought a brand new OM-1 MK2 it is more enough camera for me, but that does not mean that I do not want to see them do better in the future, more than likely, I will not be buying another camera for a few more years, but by seeing OM systems bring out an all new camera with an all new 30 megapixel sensor with all new tech and hardware inside it that give me confidence that OM systems is gonna be around for many more years, encouraging me and many micro 4/3 users to stay with the system, OM systems needs to bring out a camera for the street & travel photographer, such as all new Pen-F styled camera that needs to be the first priority to win over those street and travel photographers first, then for the wildlife photographer all new OM-1X with an all new 28 or 30 megapixels sensor with an all new image processor, six months later, they should bring out an all new OM-1 MK3 & OM-5 with an all new alloy body instead of plastic with a more secure tripod mount, both new cameras need to have an all new 28 or 30 megapixel sensor with all new image processor inside, OM systems need to go all out with cutting edge technology, and where is this pro lens that keeps being talked about, new 50-250mm f/3.5 is pro I think it’s supposed to be also a white lens, it’d be nice to see big white and little white pro lenses for the wildlife photographer to choose from.
I would love an OM-1X with a little more resolution. To me, a camera that feels good in hand is a must, and the EM-1X feels like it was made for my big hands. I would love to see them lean into the outdoor thing and weather seal everything. Could you imagine weather sealed, updated 1.8 primes on a weather sealed Pen-F?
I agree 100% on the X - i've felt no need to replace mine. Would i, though? The ergonomics and superb balance would have to be uncompromised - i still shoot lenses like the ZD 300 f/2.8 and the 150 f/2 on mine and it wears them perfectly. A 25MP sensor would tempt me along with improvements to CAF. Point of order, however - can all you good people stop banging on about the weight and size of the X? I have a mug of coffee sitting on the scales next to me - it's 250gms less than the X. My Nikkormat FT-N is 40gms less than the X. My Kindle plus a 5Ah 18v Makita battery are about the same as the X. The cat that sleeps on my head for six hours every night is 3.5 times the weight of the X. And the dimensions? I have jacket pockets that will take the X with a pancake on it - not something you can do with a Canon or Nikon pro body. It needs that size - 21 buttons / a four-way / 2 jog thingys / six dials / 3 switches / 2 latches, 4 port covers / etc - all of that is instant control, access and convenience and it all takes up space. The thing is a miracle of light-weight and space utilization. End of rant. Thanks for the video - enjoyed your thoughts and the squirrel.
I'm with you 100%. I can mount my OM 12-45mm f/4 pro lens to my E-M1X and it doesn't weigh squat considering what I can do with it. Likewise, if I mount one of my lightweight primes, it just fits my hand like a good 'Snap-on' tool. At the same time, it is perfect for shooting with my 100-400mm Olympus lens. I keep reading posts elsewhere from FF wildlife/bird photographers who are actually switching to OM System because of size and weight vs FF. A very high performing OM1X would really appeal to such people, including me.
They should launch: 1 - OM-1X, for the big lenses and for more processor power and to avoid heating problems; 2 - OM-3, with the OM-5 size, but with metal body and OM-1 (first generation) capabilities; 3 - OM-5 ii, with the OM-1 sensor and Menu; 4 - Penf ii, for the street photography hype (we NEED these Camera! wake-up OMD); 5 - TG-8, with a 1” sensor. And for lenses they should launch a weather sealed 75-300mm mark ii; a new Power zoom option; a 10mm f1.4 Lens and the Pro 50-250mm f4.5! They should do that IMMEDIATELY!!!!
I would love a new om-1 X soon. More low-light capability and better stabilisation and shorter elaboration time when shooting high resolution pictures for landscape photography. Something I loved in other cameras I tried, are the back light buttons. I love my X camera for robustness and reliability in extreme shooting conditions such as rain and cold weather. Be brave. I am waiting for the upgrade!
The OM-1X would be great, as specially for the wildlife shooters. However, I fear that OM-System does not have the development power to develop the required software. Here I'm talking about an AF that is absolutely on par with an A9III or R5II. If they can do that, plus a 40-150mm F/2 with an integrated 1.25 or 1.4 converter, it would be a dream combination. But it will certainly remain a dream.
Yes, I want a New om5 with : - tripode mount that doesn't break! - better sensor specialy in low light. - tilt screen (not a fully articulating screen. I am not a vloger, I take pictures!!!!!!) - better AF to track subject. - métal body If they do that, I am sure they could sell plenty of ! Greetings from France
And USB-C which can charge battery while I am working with the camera. And better menu. And possibility to change custom WB temperature while seeing scene preview.
I agree with you. OM-X is the halo needed for visibility on the market, and of course for the pro photographers. And also the PEN F2 monochrome will be a halo. I don't know if you want it as much as me, but still. Third camera is a PEN-L, with features like the X-M5. And then a PEN-M tiny stylic street and family camera. So 4 cameras is needed. Kk, I could agree about a new tough camera, but I want return into the lost markets.
The OM-5 is where it's at for me and its my most used camera, but a little bit of the shine goes off it when I put it beside my OM4ti film camera. Standing back they look very similar, but the OM4 feels like the real deal in the hand and even more so looking through the viewfinder. I think you know where this is going, lets have the OM5 with metal top and bottom plates at least (even if not Titanium). Give it the new BSI sensor from the OM1 and make it slightly bigger, say around the 450g mark with the difference in size / weight being down to mainly a larger and more high resolution viewfinder. Give it the new menu system and the GND filter from the OM1ii. This would help a lot with the dynamic range in landscapes, which as we all know is a weakness of the smaller sensor. I guess it would have to cost more than current OM-5 and I can't say how well it would sell in current market conditions. What I can say is I would buy one!
Hi Jimmy. Only one piece of OM System I need right now is that mid range zoom lens 55-250mm pro which has been on the lens road map for several years now. I did send my requirements and specifications to OM Systems and they did respond stating my details had been passed to appropriate department. At the moment I am using the 40-150mm f2.8 with x1.4TC which is working very well particularly for video. Wish you and your family a very merry Christmas 📷🎥🎅🎄❤️
Well, actually your list is pretty much like mine. I’m waiting for an OM5 MKII which is basically an OM1 MKII Lite meaning sensor, better AF system and Human AI etc.. A Camera for Travels, friends, nights out, the street and the like. And then of course I keep on complaining that there is a need for an OM1X. Don’t get me wrong the OM1 MKII is a hell of camera, but when it comes to Nature, Outdoor and Wildlife it isn’t the one. One major flaw of the OM1 is basically Winter, or the period from let’s say End of October to March. If you try it with gloves… not fun at all. And then you need something you can handhold in any direction and distance without loosing grip and suffering ergonomics which is a must on long highes, especially in the mountains, under all weather conditions. The EM1X is just flawless in that regards. And then it is the tech as you rightfully said. Just take two Truepic X where one is purely responsible for AF,AI, IS and Pro Capture and the Other for the Rest. Double or Tripple the buffer. Maybe one SD Card and one CF express card slot. Finally 4K120 for Wildlife Slowmos. And then a New Sensor with finally 24MP and ReadOut speed comparable or near the big ones. And to be real, this isn’t something that is not impossible based on a what OMDS already has. And finally there something I would also put into the play: As such and OM1X would be very fast and very future proof i would also accept that their would be payable FW updates like 1.0, 2.0 3.0 etc.. so that such a camera isn’t needed to be “redeveloped every two three years….
I would seriously consider an EM1x update. I’ve used the battery grip on my OM1 ever since I bought the 150-600. The weight doesn’t bother me and it gives me more leverage with the heel of my right hand. I realize it’s not for everyone.
Hey Jimmy, long time no see man. I totally agree with your comments. About the OM-1X camera. They need to have a new sensor, a wow sensor to make such a camera. It could be a global shutter, a higher resolution, or something else. With a new sensor, they can throw everything inside, but I'm not sure if OM System has the r&d capacity or the will to make such a camera. I can imagine OM-1X with a global shutter similar to the video functions of GH7, dual CF Express Type B slots, and maybe a new battery with higher voltage to support more functions. They can put the Sony A1 viewfinder, the GH7 screen, the Canon R1 or Nikon Z9 battery and make an amazing camera, you're right that the E-M1X body was probably the best body to hold in hand. I just don't see this coming. It's a huge r&d for a very niche product. The one thing I want to see and miss is the PEN-F, it's not so hard to put in a new sensor and processor and release such a camera. They have the foundation from the original PEN-F even if it's not weather sealed, just put a better viewfinder and screen, add a joystick on the back and a bigger/higger capacity battery if possible and that's it. It will be a hot seller for sure. And if they can make a B&W version it will be even more amazing.
Practically speaking: OM needs an entry level camera with its famous IBIS and a viewfinder for $799. They would be the only system that offers such value at such a price: to hook new customers. Canons R100 is less about making $ than it is about locking new photographers into their system. A smaller lighter entry-level camera with better quality features than the canon Fuji or Nikon would give pause to the lower end consumers to consider OM system. Then of course come out with all the stuff Jimmy talked about; but we need more entry-level people coming into the system. Oh, I forgot: package it with a kit lens that blows away the canon R 100 kit lens.
Great ideas for future products. I own the Pen F, OM-5 and the OM-1 MkII. I love all three. I do agree with you. My three O M System Camera wishes are: 1. A larger sensor compact waterproof Tough camera. Maybe with either an 1" sensor or a MFT sensor. Maybe call it a Tough Series camera or maybe call it a Trip camera. 2. A new mid-level camera with a new BSI sensor using the TruePicX processor. Put it in either a new Pen F Pro body or in a metal OM-5 body. Put a dual hinge rear screen on it. 3. An OM-1X with dual processors and improved video will be great. Now for lenses. I would like for them to fill out the f1.4 line of pro prime lenses. The 20/f1.4 was patented by Sigma. Sigma also has patented a 10/f1.4, 14/f1.4, 30/f1.4 and a 40/f1.4 if my memory is correct. It would be great to see a few of them to reach the market.
Bigger sensor is a must to keep the interest in M43 as a system, otherwise I can see the format going the way of the dodo! A new rectilinear prime wide lens. Imagine a game changing 35 megapixel global shutter M43 camera with the ibis they already have…..
I'd love to see a PEN-F 2 with weather sealing ( does not have to be on par with the OM-1). The original Pen-f was heavier than it looked as it was. So add a little weather sealing. Updated sensor, better auto focus with some pro features thrown in. I agree on the OM-1X. They need to throw a ton of R&D into it and make it a true WOW camera. New sensor, even better auto focus and tracking. Just improve the OM-1 mark II and put it in an EM1-X body. I love having a grip on my camera bodies and the EM1-X was IMO the most perfectly handling camera I have ever held. Never owned it but had some friends who owned it. But it absolutely MUST make a major impact on the industry or OM is finished. With that being said, I think these two products could really breath life into OM systems. They can't continue doing what they are doing.
For me, the OM-1 Mk2 is almost perfect. Two improvements that would encourage me to upgrade would be resolution of, say, 26mp and CFExpress support. But, if I’m honest, the 20mp sensor has never really been an issue - even though I shoot birds in flight and so crop frequently. And, although it clears slowly, the buffer is big enough for the relatively slow SD card not to be an issue. So these are ideals rather than necessities.
For Christmas, I would like a Pen-F mark ii with the features of OM5 plus ND up to 6 stops, 25mp, with the OM1 menu and an XZ-3 with at least 20mp. The XZ-2 is just such a phenomenal camera with the most useful focal range and bright aperture.
I agree about having a 1 inch sensor tough camera. That's a sort of "hole" in the market right now. If you want to take your camera on a trip to Florida to go snorkeling with the manatees or on a cruise to the Caribbean where you might do some scuba diving, you can either get an Olympus TG series camera with a 1/2.3 inch sensor or a mirrorless interchangeable lens camera with an expensive waterproof housing. Meanwhile, 1 inch sensor premium point-and-shoots are doing much better than the old 1/2.3" sensor point-and-shoots, offering improved low light performance, but nobody is making one that's waterproof, so if OM System did that, they would have no competition and it could be an all round travel camera for the enthusiast that can't justify carrying around half a dozen lenses plus a waterproof housing when they go on vacation. It would offer high quality results in a small package, and I think a lot of people would buy it. I can think of a couple of people who already own or have owned Olympus Tough cameras that would be likely customers off the top of my head.
I think a successor to the M10 should be a priority. OM needs to attract more "entry level users" to discover the benefits of the micro 4.3 system and once you can attract new users to the system, they will start moving up to more advanced bodies with more features. My M10 ("mark 1) was the first Olympus camera that I fell in love with and led to the M10 Mark ii, followed my the M5 mark ii, followed by the M1 Mark ii and now I have a MI mark iii BUT I still have and love my M10 mark ii!
Great wish list you are sharing with us Jimmy. For me I like to see an upgrade of the PEN with a more advanced sensor of 20 MP, autofocus with recognition capabilities and video to carry with me in my daily life instead using the iPhone. And also an upgrade of the firmware for the OM-1 with enhanced autofocus, tracking and the possibility to use the menu manually on the screen.
The TG isn't a point-and-shoot, it's an adventure and underwater camera. A bigger sensor would necessitate a redesign - likely a bigger camera - that would render existing accessories like underwater housings obsolete.
I just watched your video and I hope you’re right. I’m happy with my OM system equipment, but the more they do , the more it brings OM and micro 4/3 into the news. Which is great to keep the format alive! And I’m sorry it was so cold in London the day you shot this, but I’m sitting in Kingston Canada Now on 9 January and it’s currently -14 Celsius with a windchill of -30. And I just got in from walking the dog. Would love to know more about the gloves you were wearing!
@ Thanks for the quick reply! I’ll check prices in Canada for the gloves. The OM gear is ok in the temps we have, but my 66 year old hands have trouble😉
Hey sir! Ethan from 1of1images You’ve likely seen my macro shots. I think you’re right with the OM1 X camera. It is something that would serve the macro photography well. Things it should offer: Higher processing for high resolution mode overall High resolution images up to 100MP jpegs, 125 MP Raw Focus bracketing in High Resolution mode up to 200 images Focus stacking for regular 20mp (or will we see 26MP sensor?) up to 40 images in camera Focus stacking for high resolution mode up to 40 images in camera Lets let the 90 Pro do what it’s capable of with a better sensor and the above capabilities!
Hi Ethan, thanks for dropping by mate. I always love the X, even when it first came out. Many hated it (at the time) but I was the odd one who actually picked one up when it landed in UK. I've been using it ever since, though these days it's my stream camera and I use the OM-1II instead. I still love how it handles.
@ I’ve never tried the original X. I’ve got the battery grip which makes my EM1 Mark 2 and 3 similar in size, but not in capability. I posted elsewhere that I would like to see the new C come out with high resolution focus bracketing up to 200 images at 80MP or even 100MP. In camera focus stacking for up to 50 images for regular 26MP images (assuming the newer larger MP sensor is used). Also faster bracketing ability for use with bugs and spiders and such
If you want a bigger sensor for the Tough-8, you will need to give up something. Either the body/lens will need to be bigger to cover the new area, you have to give up focal length, or the aperture will get slower. If you change the body shape in any way, you lose out on all of the compatible products that have become part of the system that are part of the infrastructure. I would imagine that a larger sensor would draw more power also meaning battery lifetime would go down. I don't know in detail, but I believe that a lot of the smaller sensors used in the past no longer are being made (like the 1/1.7" sensor). The only 2 sensors left for compact cameras seem to be the 1/2.3" sensor used in the TG series and the 1" sensor. Now, while the TG-x series has a niche, particularly in being a dive camera and really tough, I would really prefer if OM came out with a Stylus-2 to complement the TG-7 or TG-8. Granted with the 1/1.7" sensor no longer being made, like I mentioned above, they would have to tinker with things. What I would like in this unicorn camera is: * Roughly the same size, maybe slightly bigger, but not too big; * Splash resistance to the IP-53 level (i.e. OM-1 level). For me, it doesn't have to be IP-68. * OLED viewfinder, not TFT LCD * Reasonable zoom at f/2.8 (Stylus-1 is 28-300mm equivalent, I might prefer something like 24-250mm or 24-200mm)
I hope they don't make a TG-7 next year just because I just bought one! lol. I love it. And the fact that you can hold the "info" button when it's off and use it as a flashlight is super cool. I do wish you could move the focus box around the screen a little more intuitively though. I hear you on the OM-5 successor but I think with the OM-5 still new, they should focus on (as you pointed out) the PEN. I think they should phase out the EM10 series and replace it with the PEN - I don't feel there's enough of a difference between the EM10 and EM5 lines to warrant both for a company trying to gain ground. Honestly, give me a PEN with the guts of the OM-5 and keep it very stylish, and maybe a modernized 14mm and I'm so there.
I actually think that, aside from the lack of a 1 inch sensor point-and-shoot, the OM System camera lineup is pretty good. Unless they can drastically improve the autofocus, I don't really see the point of adding new cameras to the lineup. If they do make an OM-5 II, I think it should have dual card slots, transforming it from a very expensive prosumer camera to an entry level professional camera for portrait photographers, product photographers, and others who don't need the fast action capabilities of the OM-1 series. What is needed is a 300mm f/2.8 that has a built-in 1.4x teleconverter and weather sealing and is similar in size and weight to the 150-400mm f/4.5. I expect most of the customers who bought the 150-400 will also buy a 300mm f/2.8, as well as many who didn't, so I expect it would be very profitable, assuming that it's not overpriced like the Olympus 300mm f/2.8 for the Four Thirds mount. The other lens that would really complete the system is a 17-60mm f/2 zoom. With Canon and Sony making 28-70mm f/2 zooms, I'm sure OM System could make something similar that would offer a moderate wide angle to medium telephoto field of view that would be perfect for wedding photographers and videographers as well as portrait photographers. I personally do pet photography, and I've rented the 12-40mm f/2.8 on a couple of occasions for Christmas photos and I've had great results, but for Christmas photos, I would like a zoom lens that's a little bit brighter so it can turn the Christmas lights into little bokeh balls and soften the background a little, even at wide angle. I've considered renting the Pana/Leica 25-50mm f/1.7, but I often find myself wanting to go a little bit wider to include more of the background, and I would be willing to sacrifice a third of a stop of light for some extra zoom range.
What I want OM SYSTEM to try is to revise AIR A01. It can be same old 20Mpix sensor, thing that should be there to recreate and occupy new niche is better connectivity and replaceable battery. AIR A01 and Sony attempts at "camera modules" were ahead of their time, and with how much easy it is right now to DIY your own connections-adapters-tripods-rigs, I personally would like to see A02 with ability to control and charge through USB-C and ability to switch batteries or bypass internal one.
I agree for the three proposals... I want a TG8 with larger sensor and better video specs to ditch action cameras. My TG6 is very bad in video. With a 1/1.7 or 1/1.3 sensor it would be a nice upgrade as tiny go pro and dji cameras have done it already. I also want a new OM5 with better video specs and new sensor or at least Om1.2 sensor. And finally we definitely need a hallo product to compete with companies flagships R1/A1II/Z9.
Hi Jimmy another Nice video about OMD cameras Thank you for sharing I still use my and only OM-D E-m1 camera which I bought New when it first came out with My Olympus 12 to 40mm 2.8 and I am happy Greetings from South Carolina :)
“Bigger, massive, more features etc?” VS The concept of micro four-thirds? I’d like to see the premium primes freshly offered with weather resistance, updated optics for new sensors and at affordable prices.
I would like to see more of your lovely models, Jimmy, (friends, family?), your distinct style and theirs too is so distinguished. Better still: some good script turned into a short film, documentary or similar, to put that gear at long last in real use. Otherwise we'll stagnate and regress at this stage of gear gear and only gear. But it should serve a purpose other than make money for manufacturers and hit reviews and views on UA-cam, don't you think? What camera system did you use for the shots 00:40 - 00:57 and 03:43 - 03:53 ? Full frame? I love that genre, and you do have a feel for it. Obviously you can establish a very good trust relationship between you and your clients.
I love my em1x, but would I buy an upgraded version, IDK, I love the feel and the ibs , but the price dropped to the point I had to have one. I don't need a lot of the capabilities of the em1x. But a pen f two would really tempt me. I don't need BUT I might want....
I expect if the OM1 X was released the price would be prohibitive especially given the size of the body. People would question why not one of the other flagship bodies?
This was the general blockade of the original X. People thought it was too big, too expensive for M43. But they forgot to compare the same class of body on full frame would cost 3 times the price at the time. As mentioned in the video, Olympus did miss a couple of important things on the X to really made it stand out. But time tells that the X is one camera that many M43 users actually want.
Well given OM is coming up on the December 28th deadline where they will not be able to sell the OM-5 (or E-m10 mark IV) in Europe due to the camera not having USB C support, I'm disappointed that they haven't done something like the Panasonic G97 (i.e. refresh a camera with USB micro-B to use USB C). As I understand the law, OM will still be able to sell OM-5's after December 28th, unless the cameras were imported into Europe (or made in Europe) before the December 28th. Given if the company has OM-5's stocked in warehouses within Europe to sell, they will need to pay taxes on the inventory, I doubt there are vast warehouses with OM-5s waiting to be sold. I do agree, they probably need to push the envelope on new features, but that can always be a marketing decision, since the fear would be it would rob OM-1 mark II sales (which presumably have a higher profit margin). Now, I don't know if Great Britain still has the USB C mandate that Europe had enacted before Brexit came up.
Good video. I ❤ my OM5 and we All want a refreshed Pen-F. As for lenses my wishlist is that Zuiko do just like Laowa did for ultra wide lenses: 7.5mm, 6mm. Because of my eyesight I can’t do manual photos but I rely on autofocus that these Laowa lenses doesn’t have. For now I use the excellent Leica Summilux 9mm f1.7 and is awesome. Of course zuiko 7-14 and 8-25 are very excellent but I like to go around ultralight as possible 😎👌😇
Thanks for this video! I may be dumb but I still don't understand about different sensor sizes/quality. I understand that they are different sizes, but why are they made from different "materials"? Like if the pixels' size is good on a full frame sensor - why don't use the same pixels' size on a Micro 4/3's sensor. I understand that there would be fewer of them because of the difference in sensor surface area. It's like quantity vs quality; I don't see why we cannot keep the same quality even though we change the quantity. See?
I need help i bought an OM-5 (used one) + 12-45 F/4 for street and traveling. Unfortunately, i can't get sharp Focus. can you help me with the OM-5 Setting for Street
That's unusual as this combo works really well. First, I would suggest see if there's any firmware updates on either or both the camera and lens. Then just test SAF with the camera on a firm base (preferably a tripod). Just to take a few shows to see if the focus point is sharp. Try it with other lenses (if you have any) to see if it's the lens or the camera. If the images are still unsharp, you may need to contact OM or the people you bought the camera/lens from. I don't usually hear this problem however.
Like everyone else said, we would love to see a new Pen-F or an upgraded on atleast. On my wishlist, I would love to see new pancake lens with weather sealing. Will never happen but I also would love to see Olympus experiment the MFT system, one concoction I have dreamt of is an digital faux XPan where its simply two MFT sensors side by side that ideally uses an existing full frame lens mount (Maybe L mount?). But that takes ALOT of capital investment in R&D to get there.....
No newly developed camera form OMD will come out, this company has no intention nor the capacity to develop new products. And i am deeply invested in Olympus MFT, but i don´t trust the financial investors JIP anymore.
They will have a tough time competing with the Ricoh GR in the compact market, Btw, won't the OM1 with battery pack be about the same as an OM-1X ergonomically?
I'd like to see a new pen-f or E-M10 based camera with 25+MP bsi sensor with a more photocentric setup. Tiltscreen or even better the X-T5 screen for better vertical access. OM-1 like evf would be nice also.
I had many cameras before, the quality of the lenses and the M1X made me switch to Olympus. Since then I tried the OM-1 but sold it and I continue to use my 2 M1Xs. If the OM1X comes out and it's better than the M1X then I'll switch, if not then I'll continue to use these until they wear out. Fortunately, that's still a long time.
I honestly don't know what to suggest. My GAS is running low at the moment. Not to be pessimistic, any ideas I can imagine, I also imagine the online commentary to be dead against it. OM-1X would be interesting, and there are plenty of comments here salivating over the concept, but I bet I know the wider reaction if OM released another _big_ M43 camera... 😅
A new premium PEN-F. An upgrade to the E-PL10 with the 20 meg sensor. Maybe a new sensor that would be a "Super 43". A slightly larger sensor that would be the same height as a APS-C sensor.
I’m starting to wonder if OM will simply leave the camera business..apparently it’s underperforming financially (I haven’t seen the financials myself) and that can’t last. Agreed with most of your suggestions though! Maybe they can save on R&D costs and simply pay Fuji to rebadge an Xm5 but add some weather-sealing? 😊. Btw the friendly squirrel was probably interested in your vlogging camera…OP3?
...and what you actually will get: a rebranded old Olympus product, now writing "OM Systems" on it, and a crippled firmware that provides "more stability".
I'd like to see Olympus release weather-sealed versions of their f/1.8 series of primes, the 12/17/25/45mm and, better still for me, a weather-sealed (non-Pro) 20mm f/1.8 competitor to the legendary Lumix 20mm f/1.7. The Pro series f/1.2 are very expensive and, for me, too big and heavy, personally I don't need faster lenses i'd happily settle for f/1.8 or maybe f/1.4 if it didn't add appreciably to the size and weight but weather-sealing would be very nice. A PEN-F 2 with weather-sealing would be nice but I doubt if I could afford to upgrade to it or, for that matter, any new gear. :( It has always really irked me that Olympus reserve weather-sealing for their faster PRO series lenses, one can't have one without the other with all the extra expense, size and weight that goes hand-in-hand with it.
The Fujifilm X-M5 has no EVF which immediately hobbles it compared to an E-M10. The Tough TG-7 should be updated with manual exposure! I bought one because I was excited for a rugged camera that can capture raw files, but when I got it I realized it only offers Program and Aperture priority. What a disappointment. I returned it immediately. Improve the OM-1 with a global shutter. More pixels would be nice, but not at the expense of more image noise.
The Fuji X-M5 is basically a G100 with recipes. Somehow, though, the MFT community frowns on the G100 because of no IBIS. A super cheap entry level simply competes with a point-n-shoot. The E-M10 mk iv is more capable than the X-M5. Ditto the PEN-EP7, from a photographic standpoint. If OM Systems released an OM-1X, the MFT community would complain about the size, or the cost, or both.
Зачем нужна огромная камера на микре?! Хотя я сужу по себе. Для меня для маленького сенсора должна быть компактная тушка. Я люблю ходить на фотопрогулки и мне очень удобно, что я могу засунуть своей 10III в карман куртки, чего нельзя сделать с полным кадром. Если выбирать большую* камеру - между микрой и полным кадром я выберу второй вариант.
The longevity of OM Systems continues to worry me, and is the main reason why I jumped away from the Olympus brand. I hope - I REALLY do - that I'm wrong, but when I purchased my original E-M5, Olympus were innovators and it was those innovations that kept me interested. Now, all I see is the same technology being re-packaged and re-branded - nothing really that innovative, and no the live ND grad was not enough to tempt me back!
To be frank, most flagships don't make much money. They are catered for a very small percentage of customers, mostly pros. Consumers won't appreciate some of the techs as they will never push a camera to that limit, and I am not referring to megapixels or ISO performance but other aspects.
There are so many camera geeks, so few skilled photographers, judging form these comments. quite disturbing. Oh well, I wish your AI point and shoot dreams give you what you desire.
Would like a "PM3' with a Trupix VIII or IV for better low light and 4K video. Plus latest connectivity options and at least PL10 stabilisation performance. Don't need a titling screen just need something that slips in the pocket and is under 350 grams. To go with it an updated 17mm F2.8 pancake. This would not be a blogging camera just an every day carry / party camera. Or just rip off the Panasonic GX880.
We definitely need a new pen-f. Also, I believe it would help if OM did a refresh of their premium prime lens line. Improve the optical quality (looking at you, 17mm) and add weather sealing.
Fujifilm did the market research for them with the XM5. They just need to to do the RnD now. I’m hoping they make a new Pen F and take back their dominance with smaller cameras and lenses.
You're referring to the 17mm f/1.8 lens, right? I'm thinking of buying that one soon (I'm sick of the slow AF on the Panasonic 20mm f/1.7 I've been using). I don't love hearing that the image quality isn't great though -- maybe I should reconsider?
People are always asking for a new pen-f but a cheap OM-10 with latest autofocus/firmwares from OM-1 would be perfect for me.
Yer I too want more of OM. Maybe an apsc sensor in a new OMX surely they can fit a larger sensor in that tank. We'd all love to see a Pen F remake but I think they should go back to the classic Pen styling for the EP8 remove the fully articulating screen and give it a portrait and landscape tilting screen to give it a photocentric appeal. Then a Lumix like video monster GHline,full HDMI socket with mic and headphone jack on opposite side of screen bracket. I'm guessing it's too late to make that in next om5 as I'm sure that's already in the works. Red thanks for keeping us informed and watch them squirrels around your acorns 😂
@@76steps "remove the fully articulating screen and give it a portrait and landscape tilting screen to give it a photocentric appeal. "
The E-M10 has a tilt screen, I don't understand why there is a fully articulate screen on the OM-5.
When I unboxed my EM-1X and held it for the first time, it felt like the camera was custom built just for me. When it pair it with my 40-150 F2.8 lens, the balance is impeccable. I love everything about this camera and if OM Systems came out with a OM-1X, I would be among the first to purchase one.
I will add another vote for an OM-1X, for my E-M1X has been outstanding since obtaining it nearly two years ago. It simply "fits" and the ergonomics feel exactly as if made for my hands. Yes, there ARE a number of minor things that could certainly be tweaked and upgraded (the EVF is certainly usable but... ). Yes, it IS heavy compared to other bodies but I honestly don't notice it when I am out using it for landscapes or wildlife and the occasional rail or aviation images I take. It pairs well with the Pro glass choices I've obtained and the weather sealing is ideal for dusty/snowy western North Dakota/eastern Montana and occasionally a jaunt down to Wyoming or South Dakota. I don't hesitate to use it on days when it's colder here than in Alaska and having extra battery life only adds more points in its favor. I still want a bit more out of the sensor (who doesn't, eh?), especially after shooting the aurora here for the first time, but I'm not nearly as worried about bumping up the ISO as I was in my old 4/3 days.
If OM came out with an upgraded version, I'd certainly not hesitate to obtain one, though I'd also never part ways with my E-M1X, either. I'm 57 and feel it a wee bit more every winter here, especially hiking around out in the badlands, but I didn't buy the body to be smaller. I bought it for its capabilities, even after seriously comparing systems and weighing the pros and cons of going to a larger sensor. With the internal processing and software options available today, it's really becoming a mute point in so many shooting situations.
Em1x onelove, for life
Love my Om-1 but like others getting a bit frustrated with OM Systems and its lack of new products. The honeymoon is over and 2025 needs to see some new cameras coming out.
Consumers want yearly releases, yet make surprise pikachu face when the improvements are incremental. I really miss the good old days, when product releases were meaningful, instead of on a schedule.
Fun fact - I used my previous camera for almost 10 years.
@@JezdziecBezNicka I would agree that we don't need annual releases, especially when the product is not different (OM-1i, OM-1ii) but Oly doesn't see any rangefinders in most markets, that's a giant hole in their line. And they don't have a rangefinder with an EVF.
@@pgy8863Olympus never made a digital camera that had a rangefinder. You may have to explore Leica.
They are well behind the competition as well in terms of firmware updates.
The squirrel is after your 'nuts' Jimmy! Careful.
Yes, to an OM 1 X! They also need a 10mm f/1.4 lens.
Thank You for your thoughts and wishes to OMDS.
I would like to see a really Wow-Camera like an OM-1X in the nearest future especially made for Wildlife Videographers with the best AutofokusSystem what the market can offer right now like a Sony or Canon. I think that can help to keep OM-System and the Micro Fourthird System in the Market.
Best wishes,
Roland
Completely agree with your thoughts on EM1-X. It was my favorite Olympus to date for use on the 150-400mm. Would love to see the technology you suggested in the larger form factor. As you suggested, it wouldn’t be a travel camera, but a truly professional body that could compete with Nikon Canon and Sony in the professional market. Hopefully along with that we would get a new sensor that could also compete with full frame. I’m obviously asking for a lot here, but we need more revolutionary products for micro 4/3 to grow.
I have been OM system, biggest supporter and critic,
I just bought a brand new OM-1 MK2 it is more enough camera for me, but that does not mean that I do not want to see them do better in the future, more than likely, I will not be buying another camera for a few more years, but by seeing OM systems bring out an all new camera with an all new 30 megapixel sensor with all new tech and hardware inside it that give me confidence that OM systems is gonna be around for many more years, encouraging me and many micro 4/3 users to stay with the system,
OM systems needs to bring out a camera for the street & travel photographer, such as all new Pen-F styled camera that needs to be the first priority to win over those street and travel photographers first, then for the wildlife photographer all new OM-1X with an all new 28 or 30 megapixels sensor with an all new image processor, six months later, they should bring out an all new OM-1 MK3 & OM-5 with an all new alloy body instead of plastic with a more secure tripod mount, both new cameras need to have an all new 28 or 30 megapixel sensor with all new image processor inside, OM systems need to go all out with cutting edge technology, and where is this pro lens that keeps being talked about, new 50-250mm f/3.5 is pro
I think it’s supposed to be also a white lens, it’d be nice to see big white and little white pro lenses for the wildlife photographer to choose from.
Can you be more specific about how this 'new tech' will assist your photography? Also, what is the current technology preventing you from achieving?
I miss my E-M1X ! Didn’t realize how good it was till I sold it for full frame! It was so ahead of its time!
Buy another one.
I would love an OM-1X with a little more resolution. To me, a camera that feels good in hand is a must, and the EM-1X feels like it was made for my big hands. I would love to see them lean into the outdoor thing and weather seal everything. Could you imagine weather sealed, updated 1.8 primes on a weather sealed Pen-F?
I agree 100% on the X - i've felt no need to replace mine. Would i, though? The ergonomics and superb balance would have to be uncompromised - i still shoot lenses like the ZD 300 f/2.8 and the 150 f/2 on mine and it wears them perfectly. A 25MP sensor would tempt me along with improvements to CAF. Point of order, however - can all you good people stop banging on about the weight and size of the X? I have a mug of coffee sitting on the scales next to me - it's 250gms less than the X. My Nikkormat FT-N is 40gms less than the X. My Kindle plus a 5Ah 18v Makita battery are about the same as the X. The cat that sleeps on my head for six hours every night is 3.5 times the weight of the X. And the dimensions? I have jacket pockets that will take the X with a pancake on it - not something you can do with a Canon or Nikon pro body. It needs that size - 21 buttons / a four-way / 2 jog thingys / six dials / 3 switches / 2 latches, 4 port covers / etc - all of that is instant control, access and convenience and it all takes up space. The thing is a miracle of light-weight and space utilization. End of rant. Thanks for the video - enjoyed your thoughts and the squirrel.
I'm with you 100%. I can mount my OM 12-45mm f/4 pro lens to my E-M1X and it doesn't weigh squat considering what I can do with it. Likewise, if I mount one of my lightweight primes, it just fits my hand like a good 'Snap-on' tool. At the same time, it is perfect for shooting with my 100-400mm Olympus lens. I keep reading posts elsewhere from FF wildlife/bird photographers who are actually switching to OM System because of size and weight vs FF. A very high performing OM1X would really appeal to such people, including me.
They should launch: 1 - OM-1X, for the big lenses and for more processor power and to avoid heating problems; 2 - OM-3, with the OM-5 size, but with metal body and OM-1 (first generation) capabilities; 3 - OM-5 ii, with the OM-1 sensor and Menu; 4 - Penf ii, for the street photography hype (we NEED these Camera! wake-up OMD); 5 - TG-8, with a 1” sensor. And for lenses they should launch a weather sealed 75-300mm mark ii; a new Power zoom option; a 10mm f1.4 Lens and the Pro 50-250mm f4.5! They should do that IMMEDIATELY!!!!
I would love a new om-1 X soon. More low-light capability and better stabilisation and shorter elaboration time when shooting high resolution pictures for landscape photography. Something I loved in other cameras I tried, are the back light buttons. I love my X camera for robustness and reliability in extreme shooting conditions such as rain and cold weather. Be brave. I am waiting for the upgrade!
The OM-1X would be great, as specially for the wildlife shooters.
However, I fear that OM-System does not have the development power to develop the required software.
Here I'm talking about an AF that is absolutely on par with an A9III or R5II.
If they can do that, plus a 40-150mm F/2 with an integrated 1.25 or 1.4 converter, it would be a dream combination.
But it will certainly remain a dream.
Yes, I want a New om5 with :
- tripode mount that doesn't break!
- better sensor specialy in low light.
- tilt screen (not a fully articulating screen. I am not a vloger, I take pictures!!!!!!)
- better AF to track subject.
- métal body
If they do that, I am sure they could sell plenty of !
Greetings from France
And USB-C which can charge battery while I am working with the camera.
And better menu.
And possibility to change custom WB temperature while seeing scene preview.
I agree with you. OM-X is the halo needed for visibility on the market, and of course for the pro photographers. And also the PEN F2 monochrome will be a halo. I don't know if you want it as much as me, but still. Third camera is a PEN-L, with features like the X-M5. And then a PEN-M tiny stylic street and family camera. So 4 cameras is needed. Kk, I could agree about a new tough camera, but I want return into the lost markets.
E-M1X mark2
I will preorder OM1x the first chance I get!
An OM-1X would be really great 😊
I know I'm in the minority, and I couldn't afford one right now, but I would love to see an OM-1X.
The OM-5 is where it's at for me and its my most used camera, but a little bit of the shine goes off it when I put it beside my OM4ti film camera. Standing back they look very similar, but the OM4 feels like the real deal in the hand and even more so looking through the viewfinder. I think you know where this is going, lets have the OM5 with metal top and bottom plates at least (even if not Titanium). Give it the new BSI sensor from the OM1 and make it slightly bigger, say around the 450g mark with the difference in size / weight being down to mainly a larger and more high resolution viewfinder. Give it the new menu system and the GND filter from the OM1ii. This would help a lot with the dynamic range in landscapes, which as we all know is a weakness of the smaller sensor. I guess it would have to cost more than current OM-5 and I can't say how well it would sell in current market conditions. What I can say is I would buy one!
Hi Jimmy. Only one piece of OM System I need right now is that mid range zoom lens 55-250mm pro which has been on the lens road map for several years now. I did send my requirements and specifications to OM Systems and they did respond stating my details had been passed to appropriate department. At the moment I am using the 40-150mm f2.8 with x1.4TC which is working very well particularly for video. Wish you and your family a very merry Christmas 📷🎥🎅🎄❤️
Well, actually your list is pretty much like mine. I’m waiting for an OM5 MKII which is basically an OM1 MKII Lite meaning sensor, better AF system and Human AI etc.. A Camera for Travels, friends, nights out, the street and the like.
And then of course I keep on complaining that there is a need for an OM1X. Don’t get me wrong the OM1 MKII is a hell of camera, but when it comes to Nature, Outdoor and Wildlife it isn’t the one. One major flaw of the OM1 is basically Winter, or the period from let’s say End of October to March. If you try it with gloves… not fun at all. And then you need something you can handhold in any direction and distance without loosing grip and suffering ergonomics which is a must on long highes, especially in the mountains, under all weather conditions. The EM1X is just flawless in that regards. And then it is the tech as you rightfully said. Just take two Truepic X where one is purely responsible for AF,AI, IS and Pro Capture and the Other for the Rest. Double or Tripple the buffer. Maybe one SD Card and one CF express card slot. Finally 4K120 for Wildlife Slowmos. And then a New Sensor with finally 24MP and ReadOut speed comparable or near the big ones. And to be real, this isn’t something that is not impossible based on a what OMDS already has.
And finally there something I would also put into the play: As such and OM1X would be very fast and very future proof i would also accept that their would be payable FW updates like 1.0, 2.0 3.0 etc.. so that such a camera isn’t needed to be “redeveloped every two three years….
I love it all. Plus the PEN F2
I would seriously consider an EM1x update. I’ve used the battery grip on my OM1 ever since I bought the 150-600. The weight doesn’t bother me and it gives me more leverage with the heel of my right hand. I realize it’s not for everyone.
The E-M10 series strongly needs an update (phase-AF, USB-C and new menu).
The OM-5 also needs to be updated (USB-C and new menu).
Hey Jimmy, long time no see man. I totally agree with your comments. About the OM-1X camera. They need to have a new sensor, a wow sensor to make such a camera. It could be a global shutter, a higher resolution, or something else. With a new sensor, they can throw everything inside, but I'm not sure if OM System has the r&d capacity or the will to make such a camera. I can imagine OM-1X with a global shutter similar to the video functions of GH7, dual CF Express Type B slots, and maybe a new battery with higher voltage to support more functions. They can put the Sony A1 viewfinder, the GH7 screen, the Canon R1 or Nikon Z9 battery and make an amazing camera, you're right that the E-M1X body was probably the best body to hold in hand. I just don't see this coming. It's a huge r&d for a very niche product.
The one thing I want to see and miss is the PEN-F, it's not so hard to put in a new sensor and processor and release such a camera. They have the foundation from the original PEN-F even if it's not weather sealed, just put a better viewfinder and screen, add a joystick on the back and a bigger/higger capacity battery if possible and that's it. It will be a hot seller for sure. And if they can make a B&W version it will be even more amazing.
Practically speaking: OM needs an entry level camera with its famous IBIS and a viewfinder for $799. They would be the only system that offers such value at such a price: to hook new customers. Canons R100 is less about making $ than it is about locking new photographers into their system. A smaller lighter entry-level camera with better quality features than the canon Fuji or Nikon would give pause to the lower end consumers to consider OM system. Then of course come out with all the stuff Jimmy talked about; but we need more entry-level people coming into the system. Oh, I forgot: package it with a kit lens that blows away the canon R 100 kit lens.
Great ideas for future products. I own the Pen F, OM-5 and the OM-1 MkII. I love all three. I do agree with you. My three O M System Camera wishes are:
1. A larger sensor compact waterproof Tough camera. Maybe with either an 1" sensor or a MFT sensor. Maybe call it a Tough Series camera or maybe call it a Trip camera.
2. A new mid-level camera with a new BSI sensor using the TruePicX processor. Put it in either a new Pen F Pro body or in a metal OM-5 body. Put a dual hinge rear screen on it.
3. An OM-1X with dual processors and improved video will be great.
Now for lenses. I would like for them to fill out the f1.4 line of pro prime lenses. The 20/f1.4 was patented by Sigma. Sigma also has patented a 10/f1.4, 14/f1.4, 30/f1.4 and a 40/f1.4 if my memory is correct. It would be great to see a few of them to reach the market.
OM-1X would be good. What I'd really like to see would be a 100mm f1.4 IS, to somewhat approach the magic of the Canon 200mm f2L IS.
Bigger sensor is a must to keep the interest in M43 as a system, otherwise I can see the format going the way of the dodo! A new rectilinear prime wide lens. Imagine a game changing 35 megapixel global shutter M43 camera with the ibis they already have…..
What do you mean with bigger sensor? More megapixels?
@ More pixels yes.
Ideal
I'd love to see a PEN-F 2 with weather sealing ( does not have to be on par with the OM-1). The original Pen-f was heavier than it looked as it was. So add a little weather sealing. Updated sensor, better auto focus with some pro features thrown in. I agree on the OM-1X. They need to throw a ton of R&D into it and make it a true WOW camera. New sensor, even better auto focus and tracking. Just improve the OM-1 mark II and put it in an EM1-X body. I love having a grip on my camera bodies and the EM1-X was IMO the most perfectly handling camera I have ever held. Never owned it but had some friends who owned it. But it absolutely MUST make a major impact on the industry or OM is finished. With that being said, I think these two products could really breath life into OM systems. They can't continue doing what they are doing.
For me, the OM-1 Mk2 is almost perfect. Two improvements that would encourage me to upgrade would be resolution of, say, 26mp and CFExpress support. But, if I’m honest, the 20mp sensor has never really been an issue - even though I shoot birds in flight and so crop frequently. And, although it clears slowly, the buffer is big enough for the relatively slow SD card not to be an issue. So these are ideals rather than necessities.
For Christmas, I would like a Pen-F mark ii with the features of OM5 plus ND up to 6 stops, 25mp, with the OM1 menu and an XZ-3 with at least 20mp. The XZ-2 is just such a phenomenal camera with the most useful focal range and bright aperture.
I would like to see a PEN F II, so the PEN F goes down on the used market. Same for Lumix with the GX9.
I agree about having a 1 inch sensor tough camera. That's a sort of "hole" in the market right now. If you want to take your camera on a trip to Florida to go snorkeling with the manatees or on a cruise to the Caribbean where you might do some scuba diving, you can either get an Olympus TG series camera with a 1/2.3 inch sensor or a mirrorless interchangeable lens camera with an expensive waterproof housing. Meanwhile, 1 inch sensor premium point-and-shoots are doing much better than the old 1/2.3" sensor point-and-shoots, offering improved low light performance, but nobody is making one that's waterproof, so if OM System did that, they would have no competition and it could be an all round travel camera for the enthusiast that can't justify carrying around half a dozen lenses plus a waterproof housing when they go on vacation. It would offer high quality results in a small package, and I think a lot of people would buy it. I can think of a couple of people who already own or have owned Olympus Tough cameras that would be likely customers off the top of my head.
Not only producing new models but the continuation supporting previous releases for example, upgrade the logic (program) for the E-MX1.
Agreed about TG. A TG-8 with a larger sensor and shutter speed control would be fantastic.
What bout a solid-rugged OM5X?
Om1x yea I would love it too. I know a lot of people are going to cry for the Pen F but really that camera lost money.
I just want a version 2 of the 1x
You are definitely more optimistic than me. I dont see anything coming other than rebadged product's with no or very minor updates.
I think a successor to the M10 should be a priority. OM needs to attract more "entry level users" to discover the benefits of the micro 4.3 system and once you can attract new users to the system, they will start moving up to more advanced bodies with more features. My M10 ("mark 1) was the first Olympus camera that I fell in love with and led to the M10 Mark ii, followed my the M5 mark ii, followed by the M1 Mark ii and now I have a MI mark iii BUT I still have and love my M10 mark ii!
Great wish list you are sharing with us Jimmy. For me I like to see an upgrade of the PEN with a more advanced sensor of 20 MP, autofocus with recognition capabilities and video to carry with me in my daily life instead using the iPhone. And also an upgrade of the firmware for the OM-1 with enhanced autofocus, tracking and the possibility to use the menu manually on the screen.
The TG isn't a point-and-shoot, it's an adventure and underwater camera. A bigger sensor would necessitate a redesign - likely a bigger camera - that would render existing accessories like underwater housings obsolete.
I just watched your video and I hope you’re right. I’m happy with my OM system equipment, but the more they do , the more it brings OM and micro 4/3 into the news. Which is great to keep the format alive! And I’m sorry it was so cold in London the day you shot this, but I’m sitting in Kingston Canada Now on 9 January and it’s currently -14 Celsius with a windchill of -30. And I just got in from walking the dog. Would love to know more about the gloves you were wearing!
Cheers mate, the gloves are from PGYTECH, it's heated hahaha keep my hands toasty.
@ Thanks for the quick reply! I’ll check prices in Canada for the gloves. The OM gear is ok in the temps we have, but my 66 year old hands have trouble😉
Hey sir! Ethan from 1of1images
You’ve likely seen my macro shots. I think you’re right with the OM1 X camera. It is something that would serve the macro photography well. Things it should offer:
Higher processing for high resolution mode overall
High resolution images up to 100MP jpegs, 125 MP Raw
Focus bracketing in High Resolution mode up to 200 images
Focus stacking for regular 20mp (or will we see 26MP sensor?) up to 40 images in camera
Focus stacking for high resolution mode up to 40 images in camera
Lets let the 90 Pro do what it’s capable of with a better sensor and the above capabilities!
Hi Ethan, thanks for dropping by mate. I always love the X, even when it first came out. Many hated it (at the time) but I was the odd one who actually picked one up when it landed in UK. I've been using it ever since, though these days it's my stream camera and I use the OM-1II instead. I still love how it handles.
@ I’ve never tried the original X. I’ve got the battery grip which makes my EM1 Mark 2 and 3 similar in size, but not in capability. I posted elsewhere that I would like to see the new C come out with high resolution focus bracketing up to 200 images at 80MP or even 100MP. In camera focus stacking for up to 50 images for regular 26MP images (assuming the newer larger MP sensor is used).
Also faster bracketing ability for use with bugs and spiders and such
If you want a bigger sensor for the Tough-8, you will need to give up something. Either the body/lens will need to be bigger to cover the new area, you have to give up focal length, or the aperture will get slower. If you change the body shape in any way, you lose out on all of the compatible products that have become part of the system that are part of the infrastructure. I would imagine that a larger sensor would draw more power also meaning battery lifetime would go down.
I don't know in detail, but I believe that a lot of the smaller sensors used in the past no longer are being made (like the 1/1.7" sensor). The only 2 sensors left for compact cameras seem to be the 1/2.3" sensor used in the TG series and the 1" sensor.
Now, while the TG-x series has a niche, particularly in being a dive camera and really tough, I would really prefer if OM came out with a Stylus-2 to complement the TG-7 or TG-8. Granted with the 1/1.7" sensor no longer being made, like I mentioned above, they would have to tinker with things. What I would like in this unicorn camera is:
* Roughly the same size, maybe slightly bigger, but not too big;
* Splash resistance to the IP-53 level (i.e. OM-1 level). For me, it doesn't have to be IP-68.
* OLED viewfinder, not TFT LCD
* Reasonable zoom at f/2.8 (Stylus-1 is 28-300mm equivalent, I might prefer something like 24-250mm or 24-200mm)
I hope they don't make a TG-7 next year just because I just bought one! lol. I love it. And the fact that you can hold the "info" button when it's off and use it as a flashlight is super cool. I do wish you could move the focus box around the screen a little more intuitively though.
I hear you on the OM-5 successor but I think with the OM-5 still new, they should focus on (as you pointed out) the PEN. I think they should phase out the EM10 series and replace it with the PEN - I don't feel there's enough of a difference between the EM10 and EM5 lines to warrant both for a company trying to gain ground. Honestly, give me a PEN with the guts of the OM-5 and keep it very stylish, and maybe a modernized 14mm and I'm so there.
I would buy an OM1X sight unseen!
I actually think that, aside from the lack of a 1 inch sensor point-and-shoot, the OM System camera lineup is pretty good. Unless they can drastically improve the autofocus, I don't really see the point of adding new cameras to the lineup. If they do make an OM-5 II, I think it should have dual card slots, transforming it from a very expensive prosumer camera to an entry level professional camera for portrait photographers, product photographers, and others who don't need the fast action capabilities of the OM-1 series.
What is needed is a 300mm f/2.8 that has a built-in 1.4x teleconverter and weather sealing and is similar in size and weight to the 150-400mm f/4.5. I expect most of the customers who bought the 150-400 will also buy a 300mm f/2.8, as well as many who didn't, so I expect it would be very profitable, assuming that it's not overpriced like the Olympus 300mm f/2.8 for the Four Thirds mount.
The other lens that would really complete the system is a 17-60mm f/2 zoom. With Canon and Sony making 28-70mm f/2 zooms, I'm sure OM System could make something similar that would offer a moderate wide angle to medium telephoto field of view that would be perfect for wedding photographers and videographers as well as portrait photographers. I personally do pet photography, and I've rented the 12-40mm f/2.8 on a couple of occasions for Christmas photos and I've had great results, but for Christmas photos, I would like a zoom lens that's a little bit brighter so it can turn the Christmas lights into little bokeh balls and soften the background a little, even at wide angle. I've considered renting the Pana/Leica 25-50mm f/1.7, but I often find myself wanting to go a little bit wider to include more of the background, and I would be willing to sacrifice a third of a stop of light for some extra zoom range.
What I want OM SYSTEM to try is to revise AIR A01. It can be same old 20Mpix sensor, thing that should be there to recreate and occupy new niche is better connectivity and replaceable battery. AIR A01 and Sony attempts at "camera modules" were ahead of their time, and with how much easy it is right now to DIY your own connections-adapters-tripods-rigs, I personally would like to see A02 with ability to control and charge through USB-C and ability to switch batteries or bypass internal one.
Would you like to see a tough camera with a micro 4/3 sensor preferably, but a 1 inch sensor would be somewhat of a compromise.
I agree for the three proposals... I want a TG8 with larger sensor and better video specs to ditch action cameras. My TG6 is very bad in video. With a 1/1.7 or 1/1.3 sensor it would be a nice upgrade as tiny go pro and dji cameras have done it already. I also want a new OM5 with better video specs and new sensor or at least Om1.2 sensor. And finally we definitely need a hallo product to compete with companies flagships R1/A1II/Z9.
Hi Jimmy another Nice video about OMD cameras Thank you for sharing I still use my and only OM-D E-m1 camera which I bought New when it first came out with My Olympus 12 to 40mm 2.8 and I am happy Greetings from South Carolina :)
Omg that blue pen e-pl9 is my white whale 😍😍😍 can’t find it anywhere
I would like a camera for photography only, no video capabilities whatsoever.
Interesting. It will probably be no different to regular cameras, apart from a red button and few extra menu pages? 😊
And will probably cost more.
A new menu system!!!
Actually I've not used one since em10ii, so maybe its already been improved.
OM1X = interesting / global shutter = interesting as well; I want ridiculous.
“Bigger, massive, more features etc?” VS The concept of micro four-thirds? I’d like to see the premium primes freshly offered with weather resistance, updated optics for new sensors and at affordable prices.
I would like to see more of your lovely models, Jimmy, (friends, family?), your distinct style and theirs too is so distinguished. Better still: some good script turned into a short film, documentary or similar, to put that gear at long last in real use. Otherwise we'll stagnate and regress at this stage of gear gear and only gear. But it should serve a purpose other than make money for manufacturers and hit reviews and views on UA-cam, don't you think?
What camera system did you use for the shots 00:40 - 00:57 and 03:43 - 03:53 ? Full frame? I love that genre, and you do have a feel for it. Obviously you can establish a very good trust relationship between you and your clients.
I love my em1x, but would I buy an upgraded version, IDK, I love the feel and the ibs , but the price dropped to the point I had to have one. I don't need a lot of the capabilities of the em1x. But a pen f two would really tempt me. I don't need BUT I might want....
I expect if the OM1 X was released the price would be prohibitive especially given the size of the body. People would question why not one of the other flagship bodies?
This was the general blockade of the original X. People thought it was too big, too expensive for M43. But they forgot to compare the same class of body on full frame would cost 3 times the price at the time. As mentioned in the video, Olympus did miss a couple of important things on the X to really made it stand out. But time tells that the X is one camera that many M43 users actually want.
Well given OM is coming up on the December 28th deadline where they will not be able to sell the OM-5 (or E-m10 mark IV) in Europe due to the camera not having USB C support, I'm disappointed that they haven't done something like the Panasonic G97 (i.e. refresh a camera with USB micro-B to use USB C). As I understand the law, OM will still be able to sell OM-5's after December 28th, unless the cameras were imported into Europe (or made in Europe) before the December 28th. Given if the company has OM-5's stocked in warehouses within Europe to sell, they will need to pay taxes on the inventory, I doubt there are vast warehouses with OM-5s waiting to be sold.
I do agree, they probably need to push the envelope on new features, but that can always be a marketing decision, since the fear would be it would rob OM-1 mark II sales (which presumably have a higher profit margin).
Now, I don't know if Great Britain still has the USB C mandate that Europe had enacted before Brexit came up.
What if they made fullframe camera? Would that cause hype or not? I know its not m43 then anymore but still.
Good video. I ❤ my OM5 and we All want a refreshed Pen-F. As for lenses my wishlist is that Zuiko do just like Laowa did for ultra wide lenses: 7.5mm, 6mm. Because of my eyesight I can’t do manual photos but I rely on autofocus that these Laowa lenses doesn’t have. For now I use the excellent Leica Summilux 9mm f1.7 and is awesome. Of course zuiko 7-14 and 8-25 are very excellent but I like to go around ultralight as possible 😎👌😇
Thanks for this video! I may be dumb but I still don't understand about different sensor sizes/quality. I understand that they are different sizes, but why are they made from different "materials"? Like if the pixels' size is good on a full frame sensor - why don't use the same pixels' size on a Micro 4/3's sensor. I understand that there would be fewer of them because of the difference in sensor surface area. It's like quantity vs quality; I don't see why we cannot keep the same quality even though we change the quantity. See?
I need help i bought an OM-5 (used one) + 12-45 F/4 for street and traveling. Unfortunately, i can't get sharp Focus. can you help me with the OM-5 Setting for Street
That's unusual as this combo works really well. First, I would suggest see if there's any firmware updates on either or both the camera and lens. Then just test SAF with the camera on a firm base (preferably a tripod). Just to take a few shows to see if the focus point is sharp. Try it with other lenses (if you have any) to see if it's the lens or the camera. If the images are still unsharp, you may need to contact OM or the people you bought the camera/lens from. I don't usually hear this problem however.
I want to see an OM-10 (aka EM-10 mk. V) this year, it's time.
Like everyone else said, we would love to see a new Pen-F or an upgraded on atleast. On my wishlist, I would love to see new pancake lens with weather sealing.
Will never happen but I also would love to see Olympus experiment the MFT system, one concoction I have dreamt of is an digital faux XPan where its simply two MFT sensors side by side that ideally uses an existing full frame lens mount (Maybe L mount?). But that takes ALOT of capital investment in R&D to get there.....
I think the next camera should be an OM2 as back in the late 70s early 80s that was their flagship.
No newly developed camera form OMD will come out, this company has no intention nor the capacity to develop new products.
And i am deeply invested in Olympus MFT, but i don´t trust the financial investors JIP anymore.
They will have a tough time competing with the Ricoh GR in the compact market, Btw, won't the OM1 with battery pack be about the same as an OM-1X ergonomically?
OM1-X yes for wildlife. But where is the sensor coming from? No-one is making a small sensor with 40MP - even if it's technically feasible.
I'd like to see a new pen-f or E-M10 based camera with 25+MP bsi sensor with a more photocentric setup. Tiltscreen or even better the X-T5 screen for better vertical access. OM-1 like evf would be nice also.
I had many cameras before, the quality of the lenses and the M1X made me switch to Olympus.
Since then I tried the OM-1 but sold it and I continue to use my 2 M1Xs.
If the OM1X comes out and it's better than the M1X then I'll switch, if not then I'll continue to use these until they wear out. Fortunately, that's still a long time.
At the very least there should be an OM-5 with minor upgrades such as a USB-C port. Any camera they intend to sell in 2025 should have one.
I'd like a Pen-F II with OM-5 capabilities, an OM-5 II with OM-1 capabilities and a TG-8 with a larger sensor 😁
I’d like to see OM market themselves like the Tik Tokkers do with the X100V/VI.
And weather seal their standard line with updated optics.
I honestly don't know what to suggest. My GAS is running low at the moment. Not to be pessimistic, any ideas I can imagine, I also imagine the online commentary to be dead against it. OM-1X would be interesting, and there are plenty of comments here salivating over the concept, but I bet I know the wider reaction if OM released another _big_ M43 camera... 😅
A new premium PEN-F. An upgrade to the E-PL10 with the 20 meg sensor. Maybe a new sensor that would be a "Super 43". A slightly larger sensor that would be the same height as a APS-C sensor.
I agree.
I’m starting to wonder if OM will simply leave the camera business..apparently it’s underperforming financially (I haven’t seen the financials myself) and that can’t last. Agreed with most of your suggestions though! Maybe they can save on R&D costs and simply pay Fuji to rebadge an Xm5 but add some weather-sealing? 😊. Btw the friendly squirrel was probably interested in your vlogging camera…OP3?
...and what you actually will get: a rebranded old Olympus product, now writing "OM Systems" on it, and a crippled firmware that provides "more stability".
i want OM5 form with OM1 battery, that's all.
And new menu
I'd like to see Olympus release weather-sealed versions of their f/1.8 series of primes, the 12/17/25/45mm and, better still for me, a weather-sealed (non-Pro) 20mm f/1.8 competitor to the legendary Lumix 20mm f/1.7. The Pro series f/1.2 are very expensive and, for me, too big and heavy, personally I don't need faster lenses i'd happily settle for f/1.8 or maybe f/1.4 if it didn't add appreciably to the size and weight but weather-sealing would be very nice. A PEN-F 2 with weather-sealing would be nice but I doubt if I could afford to upgrade to it or, for that matter, any new gear. :( It has always really irked me that Olympus reserve weather-sealing for their faster PRO series lenses, one can't have one without the other with all the extra expense, size and weight that goes hand-in-hand with it.
Let us now where you got those gloves from, and that was an Egyptian Goose!
The Fujifilm X-M5 has no EVF which immediately hobbles it compared to an E-M10.
The Tough TG-7 should be updated with manual exposure! I bought one because I was excited for a rugged camera that can capture raw files, but when I got it I realized it only offers Program and Aperture priority. What a disappointment. I returned it immediately.
Improve the OM-1 with a global shutter. More pixels would be nice, but not at the expense of more image noise.
New TG camera? Yes please, but with 1 '' sensor. New pen-f? Absolutely! OM-5? Oh yes but with a new designed thumb grip, please...
The Fuji X-M5 is basically a G100 with recipes. Somehow, though, the MFT community frowns on the G100 because of no IBIS. A super cheap entry level simply competes with a point-n-shoot. The E-M10 mk iv is more capable than the X-M5. Ditto the PEN-EP7, from a photographic standpoint. If OM Systems released an OM-1X, the MFT community would complain about the size, or the cost, or both.
Зачем нужна огромная камера на микре?!
Хотя я сужу по себе. Для меня для маленького сенсора должна быть компактная тушка. Я люблю ходить на фотопрогулки и мне очень удобно, что я могу засунуть своей 10III в карман куртки, чего нельзя сделать с полным кадром. Если выбирать большую* камеру - между микрой и полным кадром я выберу второй вариант.
The longevity of OM Systems continues to worry me, and is the main reason why I jumped away from the Olympus brand. I hope - I REALLY do - that I'm wrong, but when I purchased my original E-M5, Olympus were innovators and it was those innovations that kept me interested. Now, all I see is the same technology being re-packaged and re-branded - nothing really that innovative, and no the live ND grad was not enough to tempt me back!
How much money did Olympus make on the Em1x? Not much I guess.
To be frank, most flagships don't make much money. They are catered for a very small percentage of customers, mostly pros. Consumers won't appreciate some of the techs as they will never push a camera to that limit, and I am not referring to megapixels or ISO performance but other aspects.
There are so many camera geeks, so few skilled photographers, judging form these comments. quite disturbing. Oh well, I wish your AI point and shoot dreams give you what you desire.
Would like a "PM3' with a Trupix VIII or IV for better low light and 4K video. Plus latest connectivity options and at least PL10 stabilisation performance. Don't need a titling screen just need something that slips in the pocket and is under 350 grams. To go with it an updated 17mm F2.8 pancake. This would not be a blogging camera just an every day carry / party camera. Or just rip off the Panasonic GX880.
Lenses. Lenses. Lenses.
200-450mm f/4-f/5.6. Smaller than current 100-400 + Sync I.S. 1200$.
7-14mm f/4-f/5.6. Cheaper and smaller than 8-25mm.
100% on a TG-8 with a slightly bigger/better sensor
We only need one camera, the pen f ii
E-M10 V / OM10 with USB-C would be nice. Or something above 20 MP.