Would be nice if hospitals size you for the correct flange before leaving hospitals or at the 6 week check up with your obgyn. Im a FTM and it’s sad how much lack of information they give you about postpartum
@@MUSiiCF0RALL18 man so true! I'm trying so hard with my milk production and diet and simple personalized information like this can make all the difference.
Same!! I didn’t even know about the different flange sizes until I was fiddling on Amazon….. no one even told me about post pregnancy vitamins… they kind of just boot u once u have the baby and assume you’re going to snap back. They don’t even acknowledge post partum depression they desensitize it by calling it postpartum blues
You literally saved my nipples! I kept going bigger and bigger thinking the flange was too small and that was causing the pain… but your demo showed me i needed to go smaller! So much more comfortable with the smaller size!!!!! I’m so happy I could cry right now
This is probably one of the best videos on the topic. I really appreciate the visual aid you used. I wish I had watched this when I started pumping, but better late than never! Thank you!
It’s honestly amazing that I was so successful with breastfeeding and pumping for work. I remember at like 4 months I found SOME of this info and tried a 19mm. Literally 5 more ounces came out than with the 24mm the hospital gave me. It was SO much more stimulating to have the smaller flange. No one in the hospital even attempted to give me a different one, while that 24 mm was OBVIOUSLY huge on me!!!!!
Whoa! I’m starstruck. I was looking up a UA-cam video to help my friend who is nursing her newborn and there’s my lactation consultant I used. God Bless Katie. She is the reason and inspiration I succeeded 100%. My daughter is happy and healthy and I was blessed enough to never need to supplement. 🙏💜 Thank you and you all can trust this true professional!
How did you heal your nipple from the trauma while still emptying the breast? I'm facing this right now and due to the trauma having difficulty getting any milk out of the plugged ducts.
@@cathleengotsch6855 I’m so sorry you’re going through this! 🫂 I stopped using my pump for a bit until I was healed. I took the loss on milk sometimes in order to hand express and relied mostly on baby’s nursing and hand expressing to empty. Honestly, letting some milk go down the drain is worth it to get my health and well-being back and will help my supply in the long run. I know online conditioning can make it seem like it’s the end of the world to “lose some liquid gold” but it’s honestly ok lol you’ll make more in no time. Then, focused on early nursing for baby. What I mean is, bringing them to feed before they’re hungry, so I can make sure I have a great latch, I’m comfortable and able to adjust without fighting hunger and frustration from baby. Sometimes when baby is super hungry and I’m uncomfortable we sacrifice latch and nipple health just to feed baby. So being earlier to their needs and also frequent to empty the breast, helped me to focus and fix the latch issue that was also playing a factor. Okay so after trouble shooting those two areas of what was causing the trauma, now to healing it: I found that my milk was thicker and had a lot of it but my nipples are small. My milk was not leaving the nipple as fast as the demander was wanting. I started taking sunflower lecethin and this helped immensely. Follow the directions on the bottle, it relieved the clogged duct within 24-48hrs. I kept taking it as a maintenance because when I stopped the first round of healing, I got clogged ducts again. When I consistently took this supplement, I never had a duct issue again unless it was latch related. Next step, very very gentle massage. Honestly I didn’t trust myself to not go too deep or hard on my breast because I was in pain and impatient in some moments and found that me trying to heal was actually me hurting myself more sometimes >_< (never ever pick or pop your duct. If you see the clog emerging, gently hand express it out). I used a small vibrator on a low setting and lol just vibrated around my breast to move the milk back up the breast off my nipple which allowed me to take the pressure off the backed up ducts. This also helps to thin the milk if it’s been in there for a while and thickening up. Drink so much water!!! This thins the milk too. Honestly, thinning that milk out as much as you can helps it pass so easy and still has nutrients for baby. Hydrate those ninnies!! Make sure you have a healthy buttery nipple cream or even bio-oil helped me more than creams when I had scabs and open wounds. Creams burned and hurt where bio-oil just filled right in the cracks softly and healed really quickly. Grape seed oil is great too just make sure it’s appropriate for skin use and not the hair kind. I hope this helps! Message me back anytime as needed, I’ll keep a lookout in my notifications 💞 you’ve got this mama!
@@cathleengotsch6855 Next step, very very gentle massage. Honestly I didn’t trust myself to not go too deep or hard on my breast because I was in pain and impatient in some moments and found that me trying to heal was actually me hurting myself more sometimes >_< (never ever pick or pop your duct. If you see the clog emerging, gently hand express it out). I used a small vibrator on a low setting and lol just vibrated around my breast to move the milk back up the breast off my nipple which allowed me to take the pressure off the backed up ducts. This also helps to thin the milk if it’s been in there for a while and thickening up. Drink so much water!!! This thins the milk too. Honestly, thinning that milk out as much as you can helps it pass so easy and still has nutrients for baby. Hydrate those ninnies!! Make sure you have a healthy buttery nipple cream or even bio-oil helped me more than creams when I had scabs and open wounds. Creams burned and hurt where bio-oil just filled right in the cracks softly and healed really quickly. Grape seed oil is great too just make sure it’s appropriate for skin use and not the hair kind. I hope this helps! Message me back anytime I’ll keep a lookout in my notifications 💞 you’ve got this mama!
@@cathleengotsch6855 Next step, very very gentle massage. Honestly I didn’t trust myself to not go too deep or hard on my breast because I was in pain and impatient in some moments and found that me trying to heal was actually me hurting myself more sometimes >_< (never ever pick or pop your duct. If you see the clog emerging, gently hand express it out). I used a small vibrator on a low setting and lol just vibrated around my breast to move the milk back up the breast off my nipple which allowed me to take the pressure off the backed up ducts. This also helps to thin the milk if it’s been in there for a while and thickening up. Drink so much water!!! This thins the milk too. Honestly, thinning that milk out as much as you can helps it pass so easy and still has nutrients for baby. Hydrate those ninnies!! Make sure you have a healthy buttery nipple cream or even bio-oil helped me more than creams when I had scabs and open wounds. Creams burned and hurt where bio-oil just filled right in the cracks softly and healed really quickly. Grape seed oil is great too just make sure it’s appropriate for skin use and not the hair kind. I hope this helps! Message me back anytime I’ll keep a lookout in my notifications 💞 you’ve got this mama!
This is literally the only video that actually made sense!!! Thank you. I have inverted nipples and have yet to find something that works well. I'll look at a few other options presented on this video.
You should include one for elastic nipples! No matter the flange size I get swelling and a lot of pulling into the tunnel. Currently experimenting with the silicone pumping pals
Elastic nipples can definitely be a challenge! It's difficult to make generalizations about nipples that don't respond as expected to the flanges. I definitely recommend personalized care when you're dealing with elastic nipples. ❤️
I'm a bit lost still, I measure 17mm which is recommended a 21mm flange but my nipples still swell up and rub some of the walls. If I use the standard 24mm flange that came with my pump the same thing happens but also pulls in areola. My nipples are so sensitive and hurt all the time now that I've been pumping :(
I've tried a bunch of different sizes (24mm-13mm) but no matter the size my nipple eventually rubs the sides of the tunnel. The 15mm looks the best in terms of not drawing in areola but the 13mm is also very close. I have very flat nipples that only measure 12mm when not swollen from feeding or pumping. I don't notice a huge difference in pumping time between 17-13mm. A few questions: Is this what is meant by elastic breast tissue? Is there another way to see if I have the right fit than "doesn't touch the sides"? Is there a way I can help with this inevitability? Would you suggest a different style?
@@PollyColonaOficial I did actually. I found out that the smallest size that wasn't rubbing at the beginning of the pump session was the right size for me. It was more important that I didn't bring in ther areola than that it didn't touch the sides for both comfort and speed of pumping. Hope that helps
This video is very helpful!! I am a first time mom and honestly i wish i saw this video before had the wrong flange and now my nipples are sore big and wierd , i eventually got a size down and its more comfortable but i didnt know jaja love the videos! Also for breastfeeding nobody helped me or lactation because of covid… they dont do classes or show you how.. thank you for the video!
Same my nipples went sore and big huhu I just started pumping I didn't know that there were flange sizes. I wonder if nipples will turn to it's normal sizes
This is my very first time breastfeeding and this a foreign language to me 😩. Im trying to get everything together now so I won’t be discouraged once I give birth
It is a whole new language! So much you can't know until you're doing it. The good news is that if you're feeding at the breast, you probably won't need to pump in the first few weeks, and you'll be feeling more comfortable and confident when the time comes.
I have tried 4 different pumps and all size from 13mm to 30mm and I just can't to seem to find the right one and get some milk going. It's very frustrating
It is SO frustrating to have a hard time finding the right fit. We would be happy to help if you want a virtual flange fitting - bfden.intakeq.com/booking
I tried 17mm and it seems like it's rubbing and swelling like it's too small but the 19 mm pulls too much areola in...suction too strong or not the right size so confused!
Omg! This whole time i just thought pumping was painful in general. Ive been using the wrong size this whole time. It was pilling the whole nipple and areola in. Where can i find smaller size flange? I have a Willow pump and a Motify Luna pump.
This is so helpful! I wish I'd found it when I was in the hospital, pumping for my NICU babies. Most sizing charts I see (like Medela's) don't show anything smaller than 24mm. Where does one look to find smaller flanges?
Amazing video ! Thank you! Just the music on the background too loud for the next videos would be good to just make is less it is hard to hear you ( you are important)
Hi! I'm measuring about 25.5 mm and have tried using both a 28 and 30.5 flange (lansinoh 2.0 pump) and my nipples are still sore during and after pumping. Could you assist me with advice or scheduling a virtual consult for help?
OMG!! I’ve had the breast feeding person (can’t think of what they’re called) always tell me I would need a 27mm but my nipples always swelled. I’m realizing it was probably the wrong size 😢 but I do get a good supply of milk, so could it be correct?
Hey, I just ordered a RZDEAL Circle Round Stencil Template Artist Design Drawing Aid Tool (Diameter from 1 mm to 37 mm) from Amazon. This measure nipple size. Some momma told me about before I purchase my flange. I hope this helps.
after measuring and figuring it up, I am 14 mm on one and 16 mm on another. I found maymom inserts on amazon but they only have 15 mm and 19 mm. Would 15mm work for the 14 mm breast? Could I use the 18 mm for the 16 mm breast? Please, help! Thank you!
I have a question if I wear a size 26mm my nipple is the only thing that pulls into the flange but a minute or two in my nipples are rubbing on the side. If I size you to a 27mm then my Areola sucks in what do I do
Hi Lesha! The BeauGen inserts may be a good option for you. If you're not lubricating the flanges, I would recommend some coconut oil, olive oil, or a non-sticky nipple cream to help with the friction. We do offer virtual flange fitting visits, and would be happy to help, if you want help figuring it out.
So I have fairly large areolas and there’s not a lot of definition between nipple and areola. I’m trying to find the right size…Is your nipple everything that protrudes when nipples are hard? That doesn’t happen easily for me but trying to sit in front of a fan to figure it all out lol! I have NCCAH so my breast tissue is prob not the same as most but I’m determined to make breastfeeding work this time
Yes, basically! I would also recommend meeting with an IBCLC who has low milk supply training ahead of time to see what can be done to help set you up for success this time around! If we can help, please let us know!
I’ve tried a 24mm and a 21 mm flange, neither pull areola into the flange but my nipples swell really bad and get extremely painful after I’ve been pumping for a few minutes. I’m exclusively pumping for my newborn and am really getting discouraged by the pain. Any suggestions?
It is possible that you need something smaller, or that you need a different style flange. We would be happy to help you find the right flange for you. bfden.intakeq.com/booking
Hello! Thank you so much for the video! I’m currently pregnant and want to buy the Ameda Mya breast pump that comes with a 24mm flange. I know you’re supposed to measure your nipple once you pumped but because I live in a place where is not that easy to get a new flange, I want to prepare myself in case I need a smaller size because I think I have a small nipple. My nipple currently measures around 13-14 mm, do you suggest buying a 19-20-21 mm flange? Or the nipples do grow A LOT more so I could use the 24mm? Sorry if this post is TMI hahaha
Hi, I'm having problems with my nipples swelling, I was using a 21 mm and went down to a 19 mm and it's still swelling and rubbing against tunnel. I'm exclusively pumping and before pumping I measure 16 mm, what size would you suggest using? And where can I find that blue flange you showed last? Maybe that would work?
So I measured my nipples and they're 20mm (before pumping), but when I use the 24mm flange, my areola gets sucked in quite a bit. Should I go down a size?
I’m so confused as to how the nipple isn’t supposed to touch the walls, but it swells up to the sizing every time?? No matter what size I use, 12,13,14,15,17,19,21 none are working how “everyone” says it is supposed to…. My nipples swell to every size or start off good and then end too tight. Does anyone know of a video with a real breast that you can watch? These fake breast are not helpful at all when trying to figure out how it is supposed to look.
Ok I’m confused still….what about for bigger areolas? Because some of mine still gets sucked into the tunnel…. Think I might have to try the downward shaped flange ?
Absolutely! It is not uncommon for the nipples to be different sizes. It's also not uncommon for the size to change over time as your breasts change/adjust to more milk, less milk, and even less swelling after birth (or from using a flange that's too large).
@@Bfden Thanks for responding. I think my left flange side changed now that my baby is approaching 3 months and had been cluster feeding, because now both breastfeeding and pumping hurts😩
Many can, though not all have the training. This is a service we offer virtually, or in person if you're in Maryland. You can learn more at www.RuminaCenter.com
Hi, I currently use a 24mm, and I think it maybe its too big, my nipples swell quite a bit, and i feel like my pump doesnt fully empty my boobs. But I do have my nipples rubbing on the sides and my nipples turn purple.
I would say yes 100% because that’s happening to me. I get clogged ducts because it’s not emptying all there is. I find the advice online to go up 2-3mm is complete garbage. It definitely doesn’t apply to me. I’ve been wondering why my supply is not going up and realized way too much of my areola goes in Once I looked it up online. I’ve kept trying to downsize all the way to 15mm now and it’s STILL happening. Hoping the 14mm fits because I’m at a loss here trying to exclusively pump 😩😭
With flat nipples what is the ideal size? If i have not much area to measure clearly. Any standard size for flat inverted nipples i can use as a guide?
Flat/inverted nipples can be a challenge. I tend to measure what I can see best as the nipple, pump a bit with that size, and remeasure once the nipple has fully come out.
I’m quite confused about my size and idk if you’ll be able to respond to me. I measure after I pump and they each measure around 19mm which means I’m a 24mm insert. But my nipple and part of my areola is inside the flange. The nipple rubs a tad bit but during and after pumping, my nipples are not sore nor are they sensitive. If I go a size down I’m afraid the flange will be too small and if I go a size up I’m afraid the flange will be too big. Now would you say I should stick with the 24 mm flange?
Hi! I would recommend measuring before you pump, not after. After you pump the tissue has swollen to fit the size of the flange you are using. It sounds like sizing is down would be appropriate, but if you need some help we can help you. bfden.intakeq.com/booking
Hi there, i am really confused now. I have medium sized breasts but my aerola is a lot bigger and spreaded. Which flange size should i go for? :( The country where i live, they wont let me give a trial so i gotta buy and use straight. 😢
As long as you are low risk, you certainly can, but I like to remind people that your breasts will change a lot as your milk comes in, and then stabilizes post partum. Getting a basic idea of flange fit now is a great idea, but don't stock up on a bunch of parts, because the fine tuning should happen once milk supply is stable.
Plz help I have spectra s1 pump nd it came with 28mm flange which is definitely big nd pull my skin I measured my nipple it’s 2 nd half cm which flange size shuld I order?
What if I was given a used pump and have no flanges to figure this out with? I have to buy all of these parts still, I only have the pump unit. Is there a way for me to measure my nipple to see what size I would be? Do you know how I would do that?
Yes, you can measure them. They have a lot of different rulers and ways to measure if you google it. There are also a lot of Facebook groups where LC will size you if you can't go to an LC in person. Search flange sizing in Facebook.
It's generally not recommended to use a used pump. Most pumps have a 1 year warranty and are designed to last for 1 year to be used by 1 pumping parent, for 1 baby. If you're in the USA, your health insurance should cover a new pump for you.
The LC told me I was 24. I also have very flat nips, HUGE areolas, and tissue damage on one. After 3 days of pumping my nips hurt so so bad and I have quite a bit of engorgement. I wish the hospital sized me correctly as I can clearly see areola going into the flange😢😢
Oh my god ! My nipples literally fill the flange and get stretched halfway down the flange tube 😭😂 i thought that was normal , also if i try to express while pumping my boob comes out the flange 🤦🏻♀️ so i guess i need to get an insert
Hi! That's a great question. Inverted nipples are hard, you need to give them some time to come out and then measure. It will be uncomfortable for a bit no matter what, because the tissue has been so protected for so long.
It's hard to measure, because you need to also take into account the way your nipple moves/stretches. There are some measuring tools available online, but I don't use them in our practice. We focus on looking at how the milk comes out, ad how the nipple moves, and how the flange feels when a parent is pumping.
Would be nice if hospitals size you for the correct flange before leaving hospitals or at the 6 week check up with your obgyn. Im a FTM and it’s sad how much lack of information they give you about postpartum
Totally agree it’s almost as if these hospitals and providers want us all on formula as this can really mess with milk production !
I agree with this. I'm 1 week postpartum and this personalized information would be invaluable. Congratulations to you Mama🎉💗 We got this.
@@MUSiiCF0RALL18 man so true! I'm trying so hard with my milk production and diet and simple personalized information like this can make all the difference.
Same!! I didn’t even know about the different flange sizes until I was fiddling on Amazon….. no one even told me about post pregnancy vitamins… they kind of just boot u once u have the baby and assume you’re going to snap back. They don’t even acknowledge post partum depression they desensitize it by calling it postpartum blues
Come see an IBCLC! We will help
You literally saved my nipples! I kept going bigger and bigger thinking the flange was too small and that was causing the pain… but your demo showed me i needed to go smaller! So much more comfortable with the smaller size!!!!! I’m so happy I could cry right now
Oh I'm so glad. You totally made my night
Me too. I had it wring the whole time
About to order smaller ones. Thank you!
This is probably one of the best videos on the topic. I really appreciate the visual aid you used. I wish I had watched this when I started pumping, but better late than never! Thank you!
You're welcome!
It’s honestly amazing that I was so successful with breastfeeding and pumping for work. I remember at like 4 months I found SOME of this info and tried a 19mm. Literally 5 more ounces came out than with the 24mm the hospital gave me. It was SO much more stimulating to have the smaller flange. No one in the hospital even attempted to give me a different one, while that 24 mm was OBVIOUSLY huge on me!!!!!
Whoa! I’m starstruck. I was looking up a UA-cam video to help my friend who is nursing her newborn and there’s my lactation consultant I used. God Bless Katie. She is the reason and inspiration I succeeded 100%. My daughter is happy and healthy and I was blessed enough to never need to supplement. 🙏💜 Thank you and you all can trust this true professional!
I hope you are all doing well!!
Thank you for this visual! I was looking for someone to actually demo this properly! Going to try a smaller flange!
Omggg changed the game for me Ma! Thank youuuuuuu
So glad you found it helpful!
How did you heal your nipple from the trauma while still emptying the breast? I'm facing this right now and due to the trauma having difficulty getting any milk out of the plugged ducts.
@@cathleengotsch6855 I’m so sorry you’re going through this! 🫂
I stopped using my pump for a bit until I was healed. I took the loss on milk sometimes in order to hand express and relied mostly on baby’s nursing and hand expressing to empty. Honestly, letting some milk go down the drain is worth it to get my health and well-being back and will help my supply in the long run. I know online conditioning can make it seem like it’s the end of the world to “lose some liquid gold” but it’s honestly ok lol you’ll make more in no time. Then, focused on early nursing for baby. What I mean is, bringing them to feed before they’re hungry, so I can make sure I have a great latch, I’m comfortable and able to adjust without fighting hunger and frustration from baby. Sometimes when baby is super hungry and I’m uncomfortable we sacrifice latch and nipple health just to feed baby. So being earlier to their needs and also frequent to empty the breast, helped me to focus and fix the latch issue that was also playing a factor. Okay so after trouble shooting those two areas of what was causing the trauma, now to healing it: I found that my milk was thicker and had a lot of it but my nipples are small. My milk was not leaving the nipple as fast as the demander was wanting. I started taking sunflower lecethin and this helped immensely. Follow the directions on the bottle, it relieved the clogged duct within 24-48hrs. I kept taking it as a maintenance because when I stopped the first round of healing, I got clogged ducts again. When I consistently took this supplement, I never had a duct issue again unless it was latch related.
Next step, very very gentle massage. Honestly I didn’t trust myself to not go too deep or hard on my breast because I was in pain and impatient in some moments and found that me trying to heal was actually me hurting myself more sometimes >_< (never ever pick or pop your duct. If you see the clog emerging, gently hand express it out). I used a small vibrator on a low setting and lol just vibrated around my breast to move the milk back up the breast off my nipple which allowed me to take the pressure off the backed up ducts. This also helps to thin the milk if it’s been in there for a while and thickening up. Drink so much water!!! This thins the milk too. Honestly, thinning that milk out as much as you can helps it pass so easy and still has nutrients for baby. Hydrate those ninnies!! Make sure you have a healthy buttery nipple cream or even bio-oil helped me more than creams when I had scabs and open wounds. Creams burned and hurt where bio-oil just filled right in the cracks softly and healed really quickly. Grape seed oil is great too just make sure it’s appropriate for skin use and not the hair kind. I hope this helps! Message me back anytime as needed, I’ll keep a lookout in my notifications 💞 you’ve got this mama!
@@cathleengotsch6855 Next step, very very gentle massage. Honestly I didn’t trust myself to not go too deep or hard on my breast because I was in pain and impatient in some moments and found that me trying to heal was actually me hurting myself more sometimes >_< (never ever pick or pop your duct. If you see the clog emerging, gently hand express it out). I used a small vibrator on a low setting and lol just vibrated around my breast to move the milk back up the breast off my nipple which allowed me to take the pressure off the backed up ducts. This also helps to thin the milk if it’s been in there for a while and thickening up. Drink so much water!!! This thins the milk too. Honestly, thinning that milk out as much as you can helps it pass so easy and still has nutrients for baby. Hydrate those ninnies!! Make sure you have a healthy buttery nipple cream or even bio-oil helped me more than creams when I had scabs and open wounds. Creams burned and hurt where bio-oil just filled right in the cracks softly and healed really quickly. Grape seed oil is great too just make sure it’s appropriate for skin use and not the hair kind. I hope this helps! Message me back anytime I’ll keep a lookout in my notifications 💞 you’ve got this mama!
@@cathleengotsch6855 Next step, very very gentle massage. Honestly I didn’t trust myself to not go too deep or hard on my breast because I was in pain and impatient in some moments and found that me trying to heal was actually me hurting myself more sometimes >_< (never ever pick or pop your duct. If you see the clog emerging, gently hand express it out). I used a small vibrator on a low setting and lol just vibrated around my breast to move the milk back up the breast off my nipple which allowed me to take the pressure off the backed up ducts. This also helps to thin the milk if it’s been in there for a while and thickening up. Drink so much water!!! This thins the milk too. Honestly, thinning that milk out as much as you can helps it pass so easy and still has nutrients for baby. Hydrate those ninnies!! Make sure you have a healthy buttery nipple cream or even bio-oil helped me more than creams when I had scabs and open wounds. Creams burned and hurt where bio-oil just filled right in the cracks softly and healed really quickly. Grape seed oil is great too just make sure it’s appropriate for skin use and not the hair kind. I hope this helps! Message me back anytime I’ll keep a lookout in my notifications 💞 you’ve got this mama!
I'm seriously just had my 3rd kid and am just learning about all this. This video was so helpful thank you so much!
This is literally the only video that actually made sense!!! Thank you. I have inverted nipples and have yet to find something that works well. I'll look at a few other options presented on this video.
So glad it was helpful!
You should include one for elastic nipples! No matter the flange size I get swelling and a lot of pulling into the tunnel. Currently experimenting with the silicone pumping pals
Elastic nipples can definitely be a challenge! It's difficult to make generalizations about nipples that don't respond as expected to the flanges. I definitely recommend personalized care when you're dealing with elastic nipples. ❤️
Same, Samantha!
Me too !
Omg I’m using the wrong flange. I use a 24 and my nipples is so swollen and no one told me i was using the wrong size. Wow i switching sizes asap
This video made me go "ooohh!! NOW I understand." Thank you!
Thank you best explanation I’ve found on UA-cam.
Glad it was helpful!
I really wish I had this video 11 years ago THANK U so much! This is very helpful for new baby 💙
You're so welcome!
I'm a bit lost still, I measure 17mm which is recommended a 21mm flange but my nipples still swell up and rub some of the walls.
If I use the standard 24mm flange that came with my pump the same thing happens but also pulls in areola. My nipples are so sensitive and hurt all the time now that I've been pumping :(
Same here
Same here
Fitting can be tricky! If the 21mm is causing swelling, try the 19mm.
I've tried a bunch of different sizes (24mm-13mm) but no matter the size my nipple eventually rubs the sides of the tunnel. The 15mm looks the best in terms of not drawing in areola but the 13mm is also very close. I have very flat nipples that only measure 12mm when not swollen from feeding or pumping. I don't notice a huge difference in pumping time between 17-13mm.
A few questions:
Is this what is meant by elastic breast tissue?
Is there another way to see if I have the right fit than "doesn't touch the sides"? Is there a way I can help with this inevitability? Would you suggest a different style?
Did you ever find an answer to your question? I have inverted nipples and struggle pretty much with the same thing as you...
@@PollyColonaOficial I did actually. I found out that the smallest size that wasn't rubbing at the beginning of the pump session was the right size for me. It was more important that I didn't bring in ther areola than that it didn't touch the sides for both comfort and speed of pumping. Hope that helps
This video is very helpful!! I am a first time mom and honestly i wish i saw this video before had the wrong flange and now my nipples are sore big and wierd , i eventually got a size down and its more comfortable but i didnt know jaja love the videos! Also for breastfeeding nobody helped me or lactation because of covid… they dont do classes or show you how.. thank you for the video!
Same my nipples went sore and big huhu I just started pumping I didn't know that there were flange sizes. I wonder if nipples will turn to it's normal sizes
Thank you!!!! Thanks a tom for this visual display. Love it and understood it finally!
This was so helpful and easy to understand thank you ❤️
This is my very first time breastfeeding and this a foreign language to me 😩. Im trying to get everything together now so I won’t be discouraged once I give birth
It is a whole new language! So much you can't know until you're doing it. The good news is that if you're feeding at the breast, you probably won't need to pump in the first few weeks, and you'll be feeling more comfortable and confident when the time comes.
I have tried 4 different pumps and all size from 13mm to 30mm and I just can't to seem to find the right one and get some milk going. It's very frustrating
It is SO frustrating to have a hard time finding the right fit. We would be happy to help if you want a virtual flange fitting - bfden.intakeq.com/booking
This was so helpful!! What is the name of that blue curved flange?
That was the Pumpin Pals flange.
I tried 17mm and it seems like it's rubbing and swelling like it's too small but the 19 mm pulls too much areola in...suction too strong or not the right size so confused!
At the beginning of a session 24mm fits well. But then I start swelling no matter what size
When I was 19 with my first this woulda been helpful
THANKYOUUU!! I’m 39 weeks pregnant and I just got my breast pump today…. I was sooo confused on knowing the size.😭
It's so not one size fits all like most people assume! Let us know if we can help!
Your video was very helpful! I think I'm about 15mm diameter. Do I wanna get an exact 15mm flange or should I go with 17mm flange?
For most people, they should start with the 15 in that case. Definitely reach out if you want a visit (virtual or in person) to help!
i wish you could get sized for flanges the way you can get sized for bras... I'm lost on size. thanks for this video!
You can with the right lactation consultant! We'd be happy to help, our clinic is www.ruminacenter.com
Omg! This whole time i just thought pumping was painful in general. Ive been using the wrong size this whole time. It was pilling the whole nipple and areola in. Where can i find smaller size flange?
I have a Willow pump and a Motify Luna pump.
For the willow you'll need inserts, for the Luna you can use the full flange, I like the maymom versions on Amazon, or our website - www.bfden.com
I still don’t know my size. I tried so many. My nipples swell and rub no matter what flange size I use
Keep going smaller :(
Thank you for explaining & demonstrating..
You're welcome! ❤️
This is so helpful! I wish I'd found it when I was in the hospital, pumping for my NICU babies. Most sizing charts I see (like Medela's) don't show anything smaller than 24mm. Where does one look to find smaller flanges?
Amazon also nipple size reference
Cent 19.05 mm Nickel 21.21 mm
Dime 17.91 m
Amazon! Or we sell them in our store - www.bfden.com
Thankyou for the info , its really helpful . I have a question , how to check which size flange fits me ?
3:20 it would be really helpful if you told us what this flange was called and where to get it
Amazing video ! Thank you! Just the music on the background too loud for the next videos would be good to just make is less it is hard to hear you ( you are important)
Thank you my baby is three months and with covid going on I haven’t had much opportunity to get help in person and my flange is way to big 😭😤
It's so hard right now! I hope you're able to find the right size!
Hi! I'm measuring about 25.5 mm and have tried using both a 28 and 30.5 flange (lansinoh 2.0 pump) and my nipples are still sore during and after pumping. Could you assist me with advice or scheduling a virtual consult for help?
Wonderful video. So helpful. Thank you!
I just tried this breast pump I bought and my nipple is SWOLLEN, happy I came across your video so I know to buy a smaller pump flange.
I'm so glad you found that as well! I hope it helps you find a happy pumping journey ❤️
@@Bfden Thank you and it surely will❤️
This video is a lifesaver! Thank you!
OMG!! I’ve had the breast feeding person (can’t think of what they’re called) always tell me I would need a 27mm but my nipples always swelled. I’m realizing it was probably the wrong size 😢 but I do get a good supply of milk, so could it be correct?
Without buying a ton of different flanges, how do I find the right size?
Hey, I just ordered a RZDEAL Circle Round Stencil Template Artist Design Drawing Aid Tool (Diameter from 1 mm to 37 mm) from Amazon. This measure nipple size. Some momma told me about before I purchase my flange. I hope this helps.
You'll want to measure your nipple, or find an IBCLC to measure you!
after measuring and figuring it up, I am 14 mm on one and 16 mm on another. I found maymom inserts on amazon but they only have 15 mm and 19 mm. Would 15mm work for the 14 mm breast? Could I use the 18 mm for the 16 mm breast? Please, help! Thank you!
I have a question if I wear a size 26mm my nipple is the only thing that pulls into the flange but a minute or two in my nipples are rubbing on the side. If I size you to a 27mm then my Areola sucks in what do I do
Hi Lesha! The BeauGen inserts may be a good option for you. If you're not lubricating the flanges, I would recommend some coconut oil, olive oil, or a non-sticky nipple cream to help with the friction.
We do offer virtual flange fitting visits, and would be happy to help, if you want help figuring it out.
So I have fairly large areolas and there’s not a lot of definition between nipple and areola. I’m trying to find the right size…Is your nipple everything that protrudes when nipples are hard? That doesn’t happen easily for me but trying to sit in front of a fan to figure it all out lol! I have NCCAH so my breast tissue is prob not the same as most but I’m determined to make breastfeeding work this time
Yes, basically! I would also recommend meeting with an IBCLC who has low milk supply training ahead of time to see what can be done to help set you up for success this time around! If we can help, please let us know!
I’ve tried a 24mm and a 21 mm flange, neither pull areola into the flange but my nipples swell really bad and get extremely painful after I’ve been pumping for a few minutes. I’m exclusively pumping for my newborn and am really getting discouraged by the pain. Any suggestions?
It is possible that you need something smaller, or that you need a different style flange. We would be happy to help you find the right flange for you. bfden.intakeq.com/booking
The link didn’t work?
@@tayleethompson9610 try this one bfden.intakeq.com/booking ❤️
Seriously the absolute best video of explaining I've seen!!! Thank you so so much for this!!!!!
Hello! Thank you so much for the video! I’m currently pregnant and want to buy the Ameda Mya breast pump that comes with a 24mm flange. I know you’re supposed to measure your nipple once you pumped but because I live in a place where is not that easy to get a new flange, I want to prepare myself in case I need a smaller size because I think I have a small nipple. My nipple currently measures around 13-14 mm, do you suggest buying a 19-20-21 mm flange? Or the nipples do grow A LOT more so I could use the 24mm? Sorry if this post is TMI hahaha
Hi Gladys! It's hard to know for sure without seeing how your body responds to pumping. With a 13/14mm nipple you may need a 17mm flange.
This video is amazing thank you!
You're so welcome!
Great video! Very helpful ☺️
Hi, I'm having problems with my nipples swelling, I was using a 21 mm and went down to a 19 mm and it's still swelling and rubbing against tunnel. I'm exclusively pumping and before pumping I measure 16 mm, what size would you suggest using? And where can I find that blue flange you showed last? Maybe that would work?
It’s a Pumpin Pal Cox’s size flange
My nipple is rubbing against the sides I’m using the 24mm… should I try a 27mm?
Is it rubbing when you start pumping, or when you're finished?
Thank you for the demo. Very helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
So I measured my nipples and they're 20mm (before pumping), but when I use the 24mm flange, my areola gets sucked in quite a bit. Should I go down a size?
Most likely. There are always individual differences, if you want a 1:1 flange fitting, we can help virtually - www.ruminacenter.com
I didnt even know about this stuff and I'm a new mama so thank you
You're welcome!
So helpful!!! Thank you!!!
I’m so confused as to how the nipple isn’t supposed to touch the walls, but it swells up to the sizing every time?? No matter what size I use, 12,13,14,15,17,19,21 none are working how “everyone” says it is supposed to…. My nipples swell to every size or start off good and then end too tight.
Does anyone know of a video with a real breast that you can watch? These fake breast are not helpful at all when trying to figure out how it is supposed to look.
Thank you sm! 🥲💗💗💗
How to know without trying before?🙈
Is it a good tip to place a lubricant around the flange?
Yes! If that helps your comfort definitely do it.
Ok I’m confused still….what about for bigger areolas? Because some of mine still gets sucked into the tunnel…. Think I might have to try the downward shaped flange ?
The areola shouldn't impact the flange fit, we should be looking at nipple size.
Thank you for this video!!
You are so welcome!
Thank you so much
You're welcome!
My nipples are really sore going to try a bigger size currently I’m using a 27 by Medela
If your nipples are swelling, try sizing down. Lubrication can also help.
Where did you find that blue sloping flange?? I looked on Amazon but nothing came up.
It's a Pumpin Pals Flange
So if my breasts are saggier should I get the different shape?
Thank you. Is it possible for both nipples be a different flange size? Can size change throughout breast feeding?
Absolutely! It is not uncommon for the nipples to be different sizes. It's also not uncommon for the size to change over time as your breasts change/adjust to more milk, less milk, and even less swelling after birth (or from using a flange that's too large).
@@Bfden Thanks for responding. I think my left flange side changed now that my baby is approaching 3 months and had been cluster feeding, because now both breastfeeding and pumping hurts😩
Can a lactation consultant at you up with an ideal pump and flange size? Or is there such a service available?
Many can, though not all have the training. This is a service we offer virtually, or in person if you're in Maryland. You can learn more at www.RuminaCenter.com
Where can i find the slopped/slanted flange
It’s pumpin pals brand
Hi, I currently use a 24mm, and I think it maybe its too big, my nipples swell quite a bit, and i feel like my pump doesnt fully empty my boobs. But I do have my nipples rubbing on the sides and my nipples turn purple.
That does sound like they may be too big! If needed, we do offer virtual flange fitting appointments - bfden.intakeq.com/booking
Where can I shop for this flanges please?
which ones?
Where to get the blue at
Those are Pumpin Pals - pumpinpal.com/
Can having the wrong size cause clogged ducts? Because never fails I pump and get clogs 🥴
I would say yes 100% because that’s happening to me. I get clogged ducts because it’s not emptying all there is. I find the advice online to go up 2-3mm is complete garbage. It definitely doesn’t apply to me. I’ve been wondering why my supply is not going up and realized way too much of my areola goes in Once I looked it up online. I’ve kept trying to downsize all the way to 15mm now and it’s STILL happening. Hoping the 14mm fits because I’m at a loss here trying to exclusively pump 😩😭
Absolutely, if the breasts aren't being emptied properly you can easily end up with plugged ducts.
So helpful, amennnn ! Thank you :)
You're welcome! So glad you found it helpful!
Hi,i am using right flange but aerola is pulling into tunnel along with nipple is rubbing..can i use pumpin pal for this issue
You can try! But a smaller flange may be helpful. We can help with a virtual flange fitting if that would be helpful - bfden.intakeq.com/booking
For how long/how many minutes should i pump? I do 15 pumping on each breast.
With flat nipples what is the ideal size? If i have not much area to measure clearly. Any standard size for flat inverted nipples i can use as a guide?
Flat/inverted nipples can be a challenge. I tend to measure what I can see best as the nipple, pump a bit with that size, and remeasure once the nipple has fully come out.
I’m quite confused about my size and idk if you’ll be able to respond to me. I measure after I pump and they each measure around 19mm which means I’m a 24mm insert. But my nipple and part of my areola is inside the flange. The nipple rubs a tad bit but during and after pumping, my nipples are not sore nor are they sensitive. If I go a size down I’m afraid the flange will be too small and if I go a size up I’m afraid the flange will be too big. Now would you say I should stick with the 24 mm flange?
Hi! Measuring before is much more accurate, after you have pumped your tissue has swollen to meet the size of the space available to it.
Hi! I would recommend measuring before you pump, not after. After you pump the tissue has swollen to fit the size of the flange you are using. It sounds like sizing is down would be appropriate, but if you need some help we can help you. bfden.intakeq.com/booking
How do you measure? I need help idk what size to get.
Hi there, i am really confused now. I have medium sized breasts but my aerola is a lot bigger and spreaded. Which flange size should i go for? :(
The country where i live, they wont let me give a trial so i gotta buy and use straight. 😢
You need to start with measuring the nipple, the breast and areola size don't factor into flange fit.
The blue and orange silicone flanges you have, what brand are they? Thank you for this video!
The blue and orange flanges are made by Pumpin Pal, though only the blue and pink are silicone. The orange is a hard plastic.
@@Bfden Thank you!
I’m currently 33 weeks pregnant would it be okay to turn my pump on and try it to see what size I need?
As long as you are low risk, you certainly can, but I like to remind people that your breasts will change a lot as your milk comes in, and then stabilizes post partum. Getting a basic idea of flange fit now is a great idea, but don't stock up on a bunch of parts, because the fine tuning should happen once milk supply is stable.
So everytime i pump my nipple goes all the way in to the flange its a size 24
It is probably too big. You can try sizing down and see if that helps.
Plz help I have spectra s1 pump nd it came with 28mm flange which is definitely big nd pull my skin I measured my nipple it’s 2 nd half cm which flange size shuld I order?
If you're measuring 2.5cm before pumping, you could try the 24mm and see how that fits.
My nipple rubs on the sides with The 24mm. My areola gets pulled in with. 27mm. What now?
Amazon also nipple size reference
Cent 19.05 mm Nickel 21.21 mm
Dime 17.91 m
You may need to size down.
What if I was given a used pump and have no flanges to figure this out with? I have to buy all of these parts still, I only have the pump unit. Is there a way for me to measure my nipple to see what size I would be? Do you know how I would do that?
Yes, you can measure them. They have a lot of different rulers and ways to measure if you google it. There are also a lot of Facebook groups where LC will size you if you can't go to an LC in person. Search flange sizing in Facebook.
It's generally not recommended to use a used pump. Most pumps have a 1 year warranty and are designed to last for 1 year to be used by 1 pumping parent, for 1 baby. If you're in the USA, your health insurance should cover a new pump for you.
@@Jessiealabama1205 Could u suggest some fb groups
My nipple gets pulled into my pump about 2 inches. Does that mean my flange is too big.
Most likely! It could be that you need a different shape, but sizing down would be a good place to start.
The LC told me I was 24. I also have very flat nips, HUGE areolas, and tissue damage on one. After 3 days of pumping my nips hurt so so bad and I have quite a bit of engorgement. I wish the hospital sized me correctly as I can clearly see areola going into the flange😢😢
They're using old and out of date info. I'm sorry you're having such pain.
Oh my god ! My nipples literally fill the flange and get stretched halfway down the flange tube 😭😂 i thought that was normal , also if i try to express while pumping my boob comes out the flange 🤦🏻♀️ so i guess i need to get an insert
🙏🙏🙏❤️🙏🙏🙏
THANK YOUUU
You're welcome!
How to measure for inverted nipples?
Hi! That's a great question. Inverted nipples are hard, you need to give them some time to come out and then measure. It will be uncomfortable for a bit no matter what, because the tissue has been so protected for so long.
How do you measure your nipple to know what size flange to buy?
There are nipple rulers that can give you a place to start, but really trying the flanges is important to see which works best for you.
Very helpful mam...
Can u teach us How to measure the nipple size in right way to find the correct flange size please help madam.
It's hard to measure, because you need to also take into account the way your nipple moves/stretches. There are some measuring tools available online, but I don't use them in our practice. We focus on looking at how the milk comes out, ad how the nipple moves, and how the flange feels when a parent is pumping.