Yeah, that is actually very typical. People like to use old tales to legitimize their agenda. It tricks people into believing that they are not trying something new.
In the early ballads, Robin Hood was just a Yeoman, very religious Yeoman dedicated to the Virgin Mary, who kept a hiding place in Barnsdale Forest and was a Yorkshireman during the reign of Edward "our comely king". Unfortunately, the ballads do not say which of the early Edwards it was, but most likely someone who lived before the year 1377 when the legend of Robin Hood was already well known according to William Langland. The Medieval ballads are Robin Hood and the Monk, Robin Hood and the Potter, Robin Hood and Guy of Gisborne, a Gest of Robyn Hode and Robin Hood's Death. Those earliest ballads don't yet feature the Maid Marion or Friar Tuck, but the Sheriff of Nottingham and the Rich Abbot of St Mary of York are more than enough fooled by the Merry Men.
One person who maybe the actual influence of Robinhood is actually one of my ancestors named David, Earl of Huntingdon. According to legend even though he was Scottish he did serve in the crusades during the exact time it’s stated that Robinhood did, and he also lead the revolt against Nottingham castle like robin did in the original story. Also one thing I found while doing research on him while doing ancestry was that he was also a professional archer. Coincident? I think not! 😤
The original probably influenced copycats and inspired people as every famous historical figure has. Propaganda tool… bullshit. This dude is full of shit.
Right as I was listening to your video the biggest hawk that I've ever seen flew low over my truck. Anyways I knew the part about him originally going after tax collectors but not the rest. One thing that I randomly remembered while listening was the character from the book Atlas Shrugged Ragnar Daniskul the pirate. He at one point remarks that his real enemy was Robinhood. Ironically the character himself Bears some resemblance to the earlier Robin Hood story
Thats interesting. It is usually interesting when Robin Hood shows up in another tale, as he usually is not the principle hero, for example, Sir Walter Scott's Ivanhoe, or TH White's the Once and Future King.
@@ParryThis Wow I have not heard of those stories in a very long time, I grew-up on them and Robin of the Hood. I was born and grew up in Derby, about 20 miles south of Nottingham. Played in Sherwood forest as a kid and have been to Nottingham castle many times, Robin Hood has always been very real to anyone from that area. Of course historically as you point out these are combinations of many tales and influences over the centuries. I've always wondered why the legend of Robin Hood eventfully settled as we know it today, at Nottingham and the midlands of England.
Hmm, I am an American so it might explain it, but I never picked up the communist bent, other than his merry men never really mentioned personal property, but, i thought that was because of the oppressive nature of nobility. I always interpreted it as a man who had been pushed too far by tyranny, especially that of over-taxation, and decided to fight back, returning the money to the people to do as they wished, rather than a central government taking it and "using it for the good of the people".
Thank you very much for this. I always see people debating this topic online, and there are lots of people who either say robin hood is an anti tax libertarian, and others who go hard left and claim him for communism. Its very interesting to see the historical basis for the tale.
First off, good point about the Robin Hood legend being used as propaganda. Almost all stories serve to influence the listeners, and you do a pretty good job of tracing how the story has changed and morphed to reflect the times (though you missed out on the NeoPagan twist that the BBC's 'Robin of Sherwood' series put on it). That said, I have some concerns with this video. Second, there is no "real Robin Hood." He's a legendary and ultimately fictional character. No one is "getting the history wrong" because there is no "historical truth of Robin Hood" as your title alleges. Third, what is up with your dates? At 1:15, you actually cite a source. Good going. But the source you cite is from 1226--which is not as you claim at 1:26 "literally a century after the reign on Richard the Lion-Heart," who reigned from 1189 to 1999. Twenty-seven years is not a century. At 2:05, you say that "we have written accounts scattered across history from the *tenth century* to the fifteenth century of criminals being referred to as 'Robin Hood.'" (emphasis mine) Again, at 2:20, you're speculating the the original person going by that name lived in the "tenth century or even earlier." Tenth century? That's 901 to 1000. I seriously doubt there are any records of the name 'Robin Hood' from that century or the following century. If there are, it would be really great if you cited them, as the earliest source you cite is thirteenth-century. I've spent a lot of time poring over Anglo-Saxon texts, and I have never heard of any source that early referencing the name. Fourth, you allege at around 3:09 that the first stories of Robin Hood show the hero leading a band of Anglo-Saxons resisting the Normans, but again, you don't cite any sources. In fact, the text that is considered by many to be the earliest account of a Robin Hood story is A Gest of Robyn Hode; based on the writing style and language, scholars date it to the fifteenth century, and it is set in the reign of a King Edward, placing it somewhere between 1272 and 1483--literally two to four centuries after the Norman conquest of 1066. The Gest contains not a single hint that Robin Hood is anti-Norman. Indeed, Robin allies himself with a Norman knight against the clergy, to whom the knight owes money from a loan, not taxes. Though the two are initially rebels against the king as well, the tales ends with both joining the royal court. So where is your evidence that the first Robin Hood stories were about resisting Norman rule? That feels like yet another modern spin on an old story. Fifth, at around 10:00, you make a sweeping generalization about high taxes to pay for wars ranging from the Hundred Years War (14th to 15th centuries) to the Napoleonic Wars (19th century), and you allege that the Catholic Church was made the scapegoat for these high taxes. What? In the early 16th century, Henry VIII broke the power of the Catholic Church in England, declaring himself the head of the church and more importantly dissolving the monasteries and stripping them of their land and economic power. I seriously doubt that three hundred years later during the Napoleonic Wars, taxpayers were getting riled up against the wealth of the Catholic Church. All in all, you provide an interesting analysis of the Robin Hood legend, but your fuzziness regarding dates and your almost complete lack of primary sources makes it really hard to take this video seriously. I would like to recommend casual viewers check out Tony Robinson's video exploration of this topic: ua-cam.com/video/xPRBQadLNIM/v-deo.htmlsi=LtQ4AruwDGZdzrZf
According to historians theree were several Robin Hoods in different time periods. Robin was a nickname for anybody named Robert. There is a record of an outlaw named Robert Hoade.
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I was born in Nottingham... this video is totally wrong. Robin Hood indeed robbed from the rich and gave to the poor. Just come to Nottingham. Visit Nottingham Castle and Sherwood Forest... and spend lots of your tourist dollars here. ;)
13:00 I love the attention to history and, charmingly, you are very unsubtly anti-communist and it shows. I enjoyed the video, politics and all, and am impressed with your level of research and knowledge of anthropology and appreciate your attempted lack of bias.
Any lawbreaker back then was obviously not a serf and had freedom therefore chose to bandit out of hunger or greed as a ☠️ sentence awaited the breaker of some really small crimes so to rob to give away is a thing that would be unbelievable and the poor had owners that would notice anything new given to one of there serfs
He’s my family. He was not . The barrons that defeated king Richard hired Robbin Barrett and John Barrett . They went from Sherwood to wales to Ireland with strongbow . It’s Robin Barrett they were Scot highlanders Shepards that made the beret and were skilled hoarse back riders and archor marksman and swordsman. They became Templar nights and were displeased and left. Motto is unbowed unbroken. They were rewarded a huge chunk of Ireland, you are wrong, he was in wales with Norman’s but was not a Norman but a maintain main from the north. Danes Daniel is Ganges Khon there name is all over china. They conquered a few Barrett tribes. Barrett’s are robbing. Name means mighty hoods .
More then one the legend goes back to Scottish mount highlander Shepards. He was not a Saxon a Highlander !!!!! No the story was rob the elites . Some royals were good they raised armies for. The story goes to an older story to Tatar.
All wasn’t peaches and cream in Anglo-Saxon England. Did you know there was slavery, even of other Anglo-Saxons? The Normans ended that part. Slaves could be had, just not Englishmen and -women. Also, a slave owner could burn his slave alive for refusing him? That horrified Normans, who ho put an end to that as well. All that rot about “oh, what a lovely island we had before the Normans despoiled it” was cranked out by Anglo-Saxon churchmen who made up all kinds of nonsense, like a virgin could walk the breadth of England with a bag of gold unharmed and unrobbed. The Godwin family were like crime lords back then. The last three people to see King Edward the Confessor alive? Harold, the crime lord, Stigand Archbishop of Canterbury and Harold’s brother, and an unnamed steward of the king in attendance, a family member beholden to Harold. The fix was in! Good video! Cheers!
Et is hood or hat het . Et at . Green beret feather . Israel highlander special forces. North Italy bereta battled the bad pope look at bareta hand gun logo . 3 arrows and rings. They were marks man. This was a cause and family thing. Robin of Mosley is my great great great great great grandfather! He was a knight that left the Templars but he was skilled before a knight as a highlander.
This guy is half right. Robin never died . The rumors were far and wide. But they went to Ireland . Robin Barrett and John Barrett, their son William Barrett, with strongbow. Richard declare . Robin is my ancestor .
According to historians theree were several Robin Hoods in different time periods. Robin was a nickname for anybody named Robert. There is a record of an outlaw named Robert Hoade.
This guy is half right. Robin never died . The rumors were far and wide. But they went to Ireland . Robin Barrett and John Barrett, their son William Barrett, with strongbow. Richard declare . Robin is my ancestor .
Et is hood or hat het . Et at . Green beret feather . Israel highlander special forces. North Italy bereta battled the bad pope look at bareta hand gun logo . 3 arrows and rings. They were marks man. This was a cause and family thing. Robin of Mosley is my great great great great great grandfather! He was a knight that left the Templars but he was skilled before a knight as a highlander.
According to historians theree were several Robin Hoods in different time periods. Robin was a nickname for anybody named Robert. There is a record of an outlaw named Robert Hoade.
I always knew that the story that most people tell is wrong. But its pretty common for stuff like this to be co-opted by people to fit their agenda.
Yeah, that is actually very typical. People like to use old tales to legitimize their agenda. It tricks people into believing that they are not trying something new.
it happens to most comic book heroes. and robin hood is just a comic book hero from the 1300s so he wouldnt be any different.
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Glad you think so! Thank you very much.
In the early ballads, Robin Hood was just a Yeoman, very religious Yeoman dedicated to the Virgin Mary, who kept a hiding place in Barnsdale Forest and was a Yorkshireman during the reign of Edward "our comely king". Unfortunately, the ballads do not say which of the early Edwards it was, but most likely someone who lived before the year 1377 when the legend of Robin Hood was already well known according to William Langland.
The Medieval ballads are Robin Hood and the Monk, Robin Hood and the Potter, Robin Hood and Guy of Gisborne, a Gest of Robyn Hode and Robin Hood's Death. Those earliest ballads don't yet feature the Maid Marion or Friar Tuck, but the Sheriff of Nottingham and the Rich Abbot of St Mary of York are more than enough fooled by the Merry Men.
Great video, good visuals and amazing storyline I’ve never heard! I sub
I am certainly glad you enjoyed it. Welcome aboard.
One person who maybe the actual influence of Robinhood is actually one of my ancestors named David, Earl of Huntingdon. According to legend even though he was Scottish he did serve in the crusades during the exact time it’s stated that Robinhood did, and he also lead the revolt against Nottingham castle like robin did in the original story. Also one thing I found while doing research on him while doing ancestry was that he was also a professional archer. Coincident? I think not! 😤
That is interesting. I am not familiar with that story, but if the timeline matches up, it would bear study.
The original probably influenced copycats and inspired people as every famous historical figure has. Propaganda tool… bullshit. This dude is full of shit.
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Right as I was listening to your video the biggest hawk that I've ever seen flew low over my truck. Anyways
I knew the part about him originally going after tax collectors but not the rest.
One thing that I randomly remembered while listening was the character from the book Atlas Shrugged Ragnar Daniskul the pirate. He at one point remarks that his real enemy was Robinhood. Ironically the character himself Bears some resemblance to the earlier Robin Hood story
Thats interesting. It is usually interesting when Robin Hood shows up in another tale, as he usually is not the principle hero, for example, Sir Walter Scott's Ivanhoe, or TH White's the Once and Future King.
@@ParryThis Wow I have not heard of those stories in a very long time, I grew-up on them and Robin of the Hood. I was born and grew up in Derby, about 20 miles south of Nottingham. Played in Sherwood forest as a kid and have been to Nottingham castle many times, Robin Hood has always been very real to anyone from that area. Of course historically as you point out these are combinations of many tales and influences over the centuries. I've always wondered why the legend of Robin Hood eventfully settled as we know it today, at Nottingham and the midlands of England.
Hmm, I am an American so it might explain it, but I never picked up the communist bent, other than his merry men never really mentioned personal property, but, i thought that was because of the oppressive nature of nobility.
I always interpreted it as a man who had been pushed too far by tyranny, especially that of over-taxation, and decided to fight back, returning the money to the people to do as they wished, rather than a central government taking it and "using it for the good of the people".
Thank you very much for this. I always see people debating this topic online, and there are lots of people who either say robin hood is an anti tax libertarian, and others who go hard left and claim him for communism. Its very interesting to see the historical basis for the tale.
Yeah, thats what made me feel the need to make this video, as it is so very often mis represented online.
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First off, good point about the Robin Hood legend being used as propaganda. Almost all stories serve to influence the listeners, and you do a pretty good job of tracing how the story has changed and morphed to reflect the times (though you missed out on the NeoPagan twist that the BBC's 'Robin of Sherwood' series put on it).
That said, I have some concerns with this video.
Second, there is no "real Robin Hood." He's a legendary and ultimately fictional character. No one is "getting the history wrong" because there is no "historical truth of Robin Hood" as your title alleges.
Third, what is up with your dates?
At 1:15, you actually cite a source. Good going.
But the source you cite is from 1226--which is not as you claim at 1:26 "literally a century after the reign on Richard the Lion-Heart," who reigned from 1189 to 1999. Twenty-seven years is not a century.
At 2:05, you say that "we have written accounts scattered across history from the *tenth century* to the fifteenth century of criminals being referred to as 'Robin Hood.'" (emphasis mine)
Again, at 2:20, you're speculating the the original person going by that name lived in the "tenth century or even earlier."
Tenth century? That's 901 to 1000. I seriously doubt there are any records of the name 'Robin Hood' from that century or the following century. If there are, it would be really great if you cited them, as the earliest source you cite is thirteenth-century. I've spent a lot of time poring over Anglo-Saxon texts, and I have never heard of any source that early referencing the name.
Fourth, you allege at around 3:09 that the first stories of Robin Hood show the hero leading a band of Anglo-Saxons resisting the Normans, but again, you don't cite any sources.
In fact, the text that is considered by many to be the earliest account of a Robin Hood story is A Gest of Robyn Hode; based on the writing style and language, scholars date it to the fifteenth century, and it is set in the reign of a King Edward, placing it somewhere between 1272 and 1483--literally two to four centuries after the Norman conquest of 1066.
The Gest contains not a single hint that Robin Hood is anti-Norman. Indeed, Robin allies himself with a Norman knight against the clergy, to whom the knight owes money from a loan, not taxes. Though the two are initially rebels against the king as well, the tales ends with both joining the royal court.
So where is your evidence that the first Robin Hood stories were about resisting Norman rule? That feels like yet another modern spin on an old story.
Fifth, at around 10:00, you make a sweeping generalization about high taxes to pay for wars ranging from the Hundred Years War (14th to 15th centuries) to the Napoleonic Wars (19th century), and you allege that the Catholic Church was made the scapegoat for these high taxes.
What? In the early 16th century, Henry VIII broke the power of the Catholic Church in England, declaring himself the head of the church and more importantly dissolving the monasteries and stripping them of their land and economic power. I seriously doubt that three hundred years later during the Napoleonic Wars, taxpayers were getting riled up against the wealth of the Catholic Church.
All in all, you provide an interesting analysis of the Robin Hood legend, but your fuzziness regarding dates and your almost complete lack of primary sources makes it really hard to take this video seriously.
I would like to recommend casual viewers check out Tony Robinson's video exploration of this topic: ua-cam.com/video/xPRBQadLNIM/v-deo.htmlsi=LtQ4AruwDGZdzrZf
Zdravstvujtye Comrade Hood! Excellent summation.
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According to historians theree were several Robin Hoods in different time periods. Robin was a nickname for anybody named Robert. There is a record of an outlaw named Robert Hoade.
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I will be back to watch the rest of this
Thanks, a lot of concise information
This is amazing story... Now i know why my aunt gave me the name Robin as to sometimes she loves calling me robinhood...
we English have great history
that they lie about constantly*
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No mention of sherwood forest and his band of merry men in tights 😅
I was born in Nottingham... this video is totally wrong. Robin Hood indeed robbed from the rich and gave to the poor. Just come to Nottingham. Visit Nottingham Castle and Sherwood Forest... and spend lots of your tourist dollars here. ;)
All versions of this story is accurate including the modern ones because the story is just a myth and anyone can interpret it to whatever they want.
13:00 I love the attention to history and, charmingly, you are very unsubtly anti-communist and it shows. I enjoyed the video, politics and all, and am impressed with your level of research and knowledge of anthropology and appreciate your attempted lack of bias.
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You said Epitaph when you meant epithet
Lol, you're correct.
Any lawbreaker back then was obviously not a serf and had freedom therefore chose to bandit out of hunger or greed as a ☠️ sentence awaited the breaker of some really small crimes so to rob to give away is a thing that would be unbelievable and the poor had owners that would notice anything new given to one of there serfs
He’s my family. He was not . The barrons that defeated king Richard hired Robbin Barrett and John Barrett . They went from Sherwood to wales to Ireland with strongbow . It’s Robin Barrett they were Scot highlanders Shepards that made the beret and were skilled hoarse back riders and archor marksman and swordsman. They became Templar nights and were displeased and left. Motto is unbowed unbroken. They were rewarded a huge chunk of Ireland, you are wrong, he was in wales with Norman’s but was not a Norman but a maintain main from the north. Danes Daniel is Ganges Khon there name is all over china. They conquered a few Barrett tribes. Barrett’s are robbing. Name means mighty hoods .
Laughable how obvious your own ideology is in this ‘analysis’.
Was Robin Hood a real person ?
More then one the legend goes back to Scottish mount highlander Shepards. He was not a Saxon a Highlander !!!!! No the story was rob the elites . Some royals were good they raised armies for. The story goes to an older story to Tatar.
All wasn’t peaches and cream in Anglo-Saxon England. Did you know there was slavery, even of other Anglo-Saxons? The Normans ended that part. Slaves could be had, just not Englishmen and -women.
Also, a slave owner could burn his slave alive for refusing him? That horrified Normans, who ho put an end to that as well.
All that rot about “oh, what a lovely island we had before the Normans despoiled it” was cranked out by Anglo-Saxon churchmen who made up all kinds of nonsense, like a virgin could walk the breadth of England with a bag of gold unharmed and unrobbed. The Godwin family were like crime lords back then.
The last three people to see King Edward the Confessor alive? Harold, the crime lord, Stigand Archbishop of Canterbury and Harold’s brother, and an unnamed steward of the king in attendance, a family member beholden to Harold. The fix was in!
Good video!
Cheers!
Et is hood or hat het . Et at . Green beret feather . Israel highlander special forces. North Italy bereta battled the bad pope look at bareta hand gun logo . 3 arrows and rings. They were marks man. This was a cause and family thing. Robin of Mosley is my great great great great great grandfather! He was a knight that left the Templars but he was skilled before a knight as a highlander.
This guy is half right. Robin never died . The rumors were far and wide. But they went to Ireland . Robin Barrett and John Barrett, their son William Barrett, with strongbow. Richard declare . Robin is my ancestor .
According to historians theree were several Robin Hoods in different time periods. Robin was a nickname for anybody named Robert. There is a record of an outlaw named Robert Hoade.
This guy is half right. Robin never died . The rumors were far and wide. But they went to Ireland . Robin Barrett and John Barrett, their son William Barrett, with strongbow. Richard declare . Robin is my ancestor .
Nah, he’s not
Et is hood or hat het . Et at . Green beret feather . Israel highlander special forces. North Italy bereta battled the bad pope look at bareta hand gun logo . 3 arrows and rings. They were marks man. This was a cause and family thing. Robin of Mosley is my great great great great great grandfather! He was a knight that left the Templars but he was skilled before a knight as a highlander.
According to historians theree were several Robin Hoods in different time periods. Robin was a nickname for anybody named Robert. There is a record of an outlaw named Robert Hoade.
Hi Parry. Thanx. Is the text of the audio published and where?