Funny that I don't see you crediting the original designer and illustrator of the mech here in the first place. FASA don't exist anymore so you don't need to?
@@mad_max21 if you had visited the actual mod site, you will know that I credited the original designer Steve Venters, I prefer to support the artist directly.
This is coming from a cousin that does freelance coding in the computer gaming industry. He did some of the work on MW5 and is involved with MW6. I asked him what the next game is. He knows I play Mechwarrior and said it's the Invasion including the FUCKING Battle of Tukayyid
Definitely one of the franchise's most iconic battlemechs. The Timber Wolf graced the cover of Mechwarrior 2, the first exposure to Battletech for legions of fans-- including myself!
Fell in love the moment I climbed into the Mad Cat/Timberwolf in Mechassault 2. Such a visually and physically impactful unit...but man, the price tag on them makes you do a double take.
Absolute favorite mech in Battletech. When people think of Battletech, they usually think of the Atlas. When *I* think Battletech, the Timberwolf is always what comes to mind. Thanks, Mechwarrior 2!
My first MW game was MW2. I was 4 when my dad bought a new vaio pc and the physical copy of the game came w the computer. Played it and loved it so much. Growing up. Timberwolf on the box and main screen brought me so much love
I loved this mech back then, and seeing it fully fledged in HD made me fall for it again.. its beautiful! Also great work on these shorts! They're bound to blow up soon so keep things going!
Ah, yes. The MadCat. I first got an introduction to this puppy on the Sega Genesis game, Battletech. It was a beast. Apparently, it very much still is. Thanks for these vids, man!
Not gonna lie, the Mad Cat is one of the few mechs that came out the other side of Mech Warrior Online's redesign for the worse. Glad to see Living Legends maintaining the original look from MechWarrior 3
When I was still in school, I used to play played mechwarrior series up until Mechwarrior 4... Madcat was my favourite go to mech, and I remembered loading it with LRMs, Pulse lasers and heat sinks to make sure it lcam dish out and last in combat.
I loaded everything and alone: I aimed the LRM20 missiles, 1 РРС: fired them, they were already flying to the target and then you shoot РРС. Such a hit disabled the anti-missile system, the entire salvo of my missiles reached the mech without losses.
@@TheAchilles26 - I'm not sure what reality you live in, but neither of those are more iconic than the Mad Cat. The Atlas is close, but still not on the same level. The Marauder isn't even on the list when it comes to icons. Sorry to say it, but you're wrong.
@@mynameisray I live in the real world, where both of those have spent years as the icons of the setting.....and the "MAD" in "Mad Cat" literally comes from its resemblance to the Marauder, thus unequivocally demonstrating that the Marauder is more iconic
@TheAchilles26 - You're not living in this reality with a response like that. The lore goes the recognition software when they first came across the Mad Cat couldn't identify between a Marauder and a Catapult. It was never based on either of those. It was simply a new mech on the field that the computer couldn't identify because it had never been seen. That in no way makes the Marauder iconic at all. And you're free to ask anyone. The Mad Cat and the Atlas are by far the most iconic. Going back through the games and the table top, you don't find a mech more used to show off the franchise. Every time they release something without a Mad Cat the forums are flooded with questions about the Mad Cat being in the game. The Mad Cat and Atlas are Mechwarrior/BattleTech.
@@mynameisray the Mad Cat's design is literally and flagrantly based on the Marauder, and the game demands for the Mad Cat are because it's the biggest Mary Sue of a mech ever released.
I still remember the first time this popped up on radar in the books. What an epic moment seeing something so powerful and yet completely unknown show up on the battlefield. The inner sphere mech's battle computer couldn't identify the mech. It kept flickering between Marauder and Catapult, hence its inner sphere name MadCat.
Srms in the silos and gauss in the arms. That's how they had the Twolf configured in mechassault, that game had 2 versions of almost every mech in game. The mad cat version had lrms and ppcs. Whatever loadout has srms/gauss is my pick. It was OP in MA
While the Clans get a lot of recognition on the technology side for things like their energy weapons and ballistic weapona being lighter and deadlier than their IS counterparts, they don't get enough recognition for the thing that makes the Timber Wolf truly deadly: All their standard missile systems weigh half of what their IS versions do. Which is why the Timber Wolf can carry 2 LRM20s. Together, they weigh as much as a single IS LRM20 or, as a more pertinent example, the two LRM10s carried by that red-headed stepchild, the Rakshasa.
my favorite bit of lore about this mech is how it got its inner sphere name: due to the combination of missile pods and weapon arms, the Inner Sphere targeting computers kept switching the identification between Marauder (MAD) and Catapult (CAT)
The Inner Sphere was scared shitless, they couldn't believe a heavy mech could be loaded with so much weaponry and armor and still moved so quickly. The snes game was the first time I saw it in action, it had a decent set of loadouts, and moved fairly quick, but it was big and wide. Despite it's size it had trouble flattening tanks and elementals.
It was awesome to read about it the first time, wenn phelan kell first encountered on in the initial phase of the invasion. Still remember when his computer couldn’t decide if it was an marauder or catapult 😮 And then he was attacked at far longer range. Best scene ever in the books😊
Back when I used to play Mechwarrior online with my little brother I had a Timberwolf I had set up as the ultimate missile boat; There was something like 90 LRMs that would fire in salvo when my bro marked a forward target, Good times.
I am glad to see my mighty marauder continued by the clans into its nearly ultimate form. XL Engine, Ferro-Fibrous armor, Advanced clan weaponry, the Timber Wolf is one of the if not THE ultimate heavy mech, thanks to its versatility, and performance!
Fun Fact: The IS Designation of the Timber Wolf (Mad Cat) is actually derived from Marauder and Catapult, as the mech looks like a fusion of both of these designs.
And despite being the literal face of battletech, appearing in the main MechWarrior video games and even so far as being in the frickin INTRO to the first three, it is strangely absent from 5. They need to get their shit together. I miss my madcat, as well as the assault class MK 2 and the vulture and Thor as well. And can we not forget the great death known as the Daishi, just bristling with soooo many guns lmao
Why would it be in MW5? The game takes place well before the Clan Invasion, and the Mad Cat is a Clan design, so it wouldn't even be available in the IS for several years after the end of the most recent DLC.
i do remember in the old days of MechCommander days the Mad Cat (as i know by that name) it was one of my most wanted mechs ... i could even go through the most of the both games without changing any weapons systems
I argue that the Timberwolf aka the Madcat is the Ultimate Mech or at least one of the ultimate mechs. It can pretty much do practically anything. It's base set up has something for everything. Trying to hit long range it goes you covered with 2 Lrm pods. Need some heavy hitting medium to long range you got two Large lasers for that. Need to fight up close welp you got two Large Lasers, Two Medium lasers and if your opponent is running low on Armor then it's two machine guns can melts that opponent away. Not only is it loaded with Heavy Firepower, but it's extremely Quick and fast one of the Fastest heavies in the existence. On top of that it can also jump around the battlefield. And to make things even better not only is it loaded with firepower, and Extremely fast. It's also is very heavily Armored as well. Most other mechs especially in the Heavy class, you always have tradeoffs some have a lot of firepower but they are extremely slow. Some are extremely fast but have little fire power. But with the Timberwolf you can nearly have it all. The Timberwolf is in my opinion one of the best Mechs in the Battletech Universe. A Timberwolf can destroy in any situation you come across it can go toe to toe with Assaults and run nearly circles around them. It can Smash peer heavies, and simply crush anything smaller than it. There is a reason why everyone and their mother tries to focus down a Timberwolf when they see one.
Basically a combination of the Marauder (MAD) with its withering firepower it could easily bring to the forefront, and the indirect fire support of the Catapult (CAT), the Timberwolf was forged by Clan Wolf influenced by two of the most iconic mechs the Inner Sphere ever produced. Thus, the Timberwolf, or better known as the iconic MADCAT thanks to Phelan Kell's tactical onboard display designating it as both MARAUDER and CATAPULT we got the iconic series staple, and arguably the most well-known aspect of all of Battletech itself, and the face of Mechwarrior as a franchise.
Fun Fact: The Timberwolf got the IS Name of Mad Cat because Targeting systems would identify Mechs by their silhouette, so when IS Pilots first encountered these mechs the Targeting systems would keep switching from MAD for Marauder and CAT for Catapult.....
Even though this mech became the titular mascot of the Mechwarrior franchise back in the day, it's kind of ironic that it's a Clan mech. Clans are usually seen as the bad guys of the Battletech universe.
If you are willing to pay a premium or go to later settings, this mech can give you all you need to seize bloody glory. Unless you want to smash and bash. Then your premium is a Bersserker or an Man O' War K.
It is my honor that you are featuring this Timberwolf model that I made! Would be even more cool if I am credited for it 😊
Such is the life of a modder.
Funny that I don't see you crediting the original designer and illustrator of the mech here in the first place. FASA don't exist anymore so you don't need to?
@@mad_max21 if you had visited the actual mod site, you will know that I credited the original designer Steve Venters, I prefer to support the artist directly.
@@mad_max21 get humbled lol.
While I love this design, I want only the MWO/MW5 style mechs in my game. This in MW5 ruins the continuity for me.
One of the most iconic mechs of the battletech universe.
Still missing in both games battletech (2016) and mw5 mercs.
Rumor has it that there will be a new single player Mech game by PGI in 2024 - my bet is on the Clan Invasion!
@@Baradul I hope they don't screw it up
This is coming from a cousin that does freelance coding in the computer gaming industry. He did some of the work on MW5 and is involved with MW6. I asked him what the next game is. He knows I play Mechwarrior and said it's the Invasion including the FUCKING Battle of Tukayyid
@@Baradul I hope you can play as clanners in that specifically clan wolf
Please, let it be so.
Definitely one of the franchise's most iconic battlemechs. The Timber Wolf graced the cover of Mechwarrior 2, the first exposure to Battletech for legions of fans-- including myself!
Id say the Timberwolf & Atlas are the posterboys of the francise.
@@bigballzmcdrawz2921 Agree.
Now that was a badass game cover, you the Timber Wolf surrounded by flames/black box it was cool as hell
then later got decimated the the atlas and so forth in mw3 intro lol
Fell in love the moment I climbed into the Mad Cat/Timberwolf in Mechassault 2. Such a visually and physically impactful unit...but man, the price tag on them makes you do a double take.
My favorite ever. Ive filled a load of books with drawings of these as a child, when i used to play mech commander. Oh the memories
Probably the most iconic mech of all time. When you think of mech warrior this is the first thing that pops into your head.
YESSS!
For me. It was in Mechcommander, trying to fight this thing with a raven with commandos firestarters was hard AF.
Baradul should do more voiceovers. It's like if the Steiners got their shit together and started being smart
LUL
Yea, we can vouch for his skills in voiceovers :)
@@WatchTMC haha nice, love hired steel
Uh, Frederick Steiner aka Anastasius Focht. The guy who kicked in the Clanners in the mouth.
@@mad_max21 That was Space AT&T sir
Timberwolf is one of my favorite mechs next to the vulture. Both iconic and deadly in their own right .
I love the Vulture. My all time fav.
If you truly loved the mech you'd call it by its true name, Mad Dog.
Brilliant mech. Especially lall those older mechs, like the Summoner and the Hellbringer Prime too. Cool designs from the older Mechwarrior days.
the classic design of the Timberwolf still sends shivers up my spine when I see one on the battlefeild
Absolute favorite mech in Battletech. When people think of Battletech, they usually think of the Atlas.
When *I* think Battletech, the Timberwolf is always what comes to mind. Thanks, Mechwarrior 2!
My first MW game was MW2.
I was 4 when my dad bought a new vaio pc and the physical copy of the game came w the computer.
Played it and loved it so much. Growing up. Timberwolf on the box and main screen brought me so much love
The mech that got me into Battletech.
One of my top 5 favorite designs in Battletech, right up there with the Warhammer and the Marauder.
I was so excited to see this pop up. Proper respect for one of, if not *the* greatest mechs ever designed.
I really love this kind of informative shorts! Thank you!
My baby. Seeing it in all of its glory makes me happy. So versatile and reliable to have on the battlefield.
Iconic. When someone says mech this thing pops into my head. Classic giant stompy robot goodness.
I loved this mech back then, and seeing it fully fledged in HD made me fall for it again.. its beautiful!
Also great work on these shorts! They're bound to blow up soon so keep things going!
This was one of my most favorite Mechs!
was a great one in mechassault too, PPC's, LRM's and machine guns.
Ah, yes. The MadCat.
I first got an introduction to this puppy on the Sega Genesis game, Battletech. It was a beast.
Apparently, it very much still is.
Thanks for these vids, man!
Not gonna lie, the Mad Cat is one of the few mechs that came out the other side of Mech Warrior Online's redesign for the worse. Glad to see Living Legends maintaining the original look from MechWarrior 3
Do people still play that lol. When I was on there 5 years ago there'd be one full server once a week and it was a ghost town the rest
When I was still in school, I used to play played mechwarrior series up until Mechwarrior 4... Madcat was my favourite go to mech, and I remembered loading it with LRMs, Pulse lasers and heat sinks to make sure it lcam dish out and last in combat.
I loaded everything and alone: I aimed the LRM20 missiles, 1 РРС: fired them, they were already flying to the target and then you shoot РРС. Such a hit disabled the anti-missile system, the entire salvo of my missiles reached the mech without losses.
The only other mech I can think of that is as iconic as the Mad Cat would be the Atlas, but it's a very distant second.
The Atlas and Marauder are both much more iconic than the Mad Cat
@@TheAchilles26 - I'm not sure what reality you live in, but neither of those are more iconic than the Mad Cat. The Atlas is close, but still not on the same level. The Marauder isn't even on the list when it comes to icons. Sorry to say it, but you're wrong.
@@mynameisray I live in the real world, where both of those have spent years as the icons of the setting.....and the "MAD" in "Mad Cat" literally comes from its resemblance to the Marauder, thus unequivocally demonstrating that the Marauder is more iconic
@TheAchilles26 - You're not living in this reality with a response like that. The lore goes the recognition software when they first came across the Mad Cat couldn't identify between a Marauder and a Catapult. It was never based on either of those. It was simply a new mech on the field that the computer couldn't identify because it had never been seen.
That in no way makes the Marauder iconic at all. And you're free to ask anyone. The Mad Cat and the Atlas are by far the most iconic. Going back through the games and the table top, you don't find a mech more used to show off the franchise. Every time they release something without a Mad Cat the forums are flooded with questions about the Mad Cat being in the game.
The Mad Cat and Atlas are Mechwarrior/BattleTech.
@@mynameisray the Mad Cat's design is literally and flagrantly based on the Marauder, and the game demands for the Mad Cat are because it's the biggest Mary Sue of a mech ever released.
My absolute #1 favorite mech!
A marauder had sexy time with a catapult. And the mad cat was born
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I still remember the first time this popped up on radar in the books. What an epic moment seeing something so powerful and yet completely unknown show up on the battlefield.
The inner sphere mech's battle computer couldn't identify the mech. It kept flickering between Marauder and Catapult, hence its inner sphere name MadCat.
Ah, yes, the Stackpole second trilogy about the coming of the Clans. Still have it amongst the near 90 battletech novels I own.
Srms in the silos and gauss in the arms. That's how they had the Twolf configured in mechassault, that game had 2 versions of almost every mech in game. The mad cat version had lrms and ppcs. Whatever loadout has srms/gauss is my pick. It was OP in MA
My favorite mech of all time . All the mad cats
While the Clans get a lot of recognition on the technology side for things like their energy weapons and ballistic weapona being lighter and deadlier than their IS counterparts, they don't get enough recognition for the thing that makes the Timber Wolf truly deadly:
All their standard missile systems weigh half of what their IS versions do. Which is why the Timber Wolf can carry 2 LRM20s. Together, they weigh as much as a single IS LRM20 or, as a more pertinent example, the two LRM10s carried by that red-headed stepchild, the Rakshasa.
when I played mechcomander, getting the timberwolf early, makes the game easier on the next missions
Old joke, on the second or third mission)
Best mech of all time
The myth, the legend, the 90's mech icon!
Love this thing. It hard carried my recon, raid, and assassination lances in MW5 for damn near 70 years in-game.
0:33 The Chad all Timber Wolf lance
Often imitated, never replicated.
The Timberwolf is my favorite BattleMech
Madcat, Vulture, and Thanatos were my fav mechs in MW4
"It was perfect, PERFECT, down to the last minute details."
On point as usual.
love you're doing these shorts Baradul keep up the good work, thanks man.
my favorite bit of lore about this mech is how it got its inner sphere name: due to the combination of missile pods and weapon arms, the Inner Sphere targeting computers kept switching the identification between Marauder (MAD) and Catapult (CAT)
I love the oldschool madcat design
The myth, the legend, the Clan era Icon.
My 1st favorite, 2nd is the Marauder
The Inner Sphere was scared shitless, they couldn't believe a heavy mech could be loaded with so much weaponry and armor and still moved so quickly.
The snes game was the first time I saw it in action, it had a decent set of loadouts, and moved fairly quick, but it was big and wide. Despite it's size it had trouble flattening tanks and elementals.
The book "By Blood Betrayed" is an excellent showcase of how overwhelming a timberwolf could be on the battlefield
I didn’t know you were doing shorts! I love it
Baradul and Mech Warrior lore in one video?! yes please!
As a Spheroid, I do love the Madcat
It was awesome to read about it the first time, wenn phelan kell first encountered on in the initial phase of the invasion.
Still remember when his computer couldn’t decide if it was an marauder or catapult 😮
And then he was attacked at far longer range.
Best scene ever in the books😊
Back when I used to play Mechwarrior online with my little brother I had a Timberwolf I had set up as the ultimate missile boat; There was something like 90 LRMs that would fire in salvo when my bro marked a forward target, Good times.
I am glad to see my mighty marauder continued by the clans into its nearly ultimate form. XL Engine, Ferro-Fibrous armor, Advanced clan weaponry, the Timber Wolf is one of the if not THE ultimate heavy mech, thanks to its versatility, and performance!
Awesome Bara! Thank you for doing this!
according to Lore from books, Clan Jade Falcon believed this mech to be cursed because pilots usually died driving it into combat.
Nice coverage Baradul
Fun Fact: The IS Designation of the Timber Wolf (Mad Cat) is actually derived from Marauder and Catapult, as the mech looks like a fusion of both of these designs.
And despite being the literal face of battletech, appearing in the main MechWarrior video games and even so far as being in the frickin INTRO to the first three, it is strangely absent from 5. They need to get their shit together. I miss my madcat, as well as the assault class MK 2 and the vulture and Thor as well. And can we not forget the great death known as the Daishi, just bristling with soooo many guns lmao
Dire Wolf ;)
Why would it be in MW5? The game takes place well before the Clan Invasion, and the Mad Cat is a Clan design, so it wouldn't even be available in the IS for several years after the end of the most recent DLC.
To this day, the A-configuration of the first Timber Wolf is a tough and well-balanced Mech.
i do remember in the old days of MechCommander days the Mad Cat (as i know by that name) it was one of my most wanted mechs ... i could even go through the most of the both games without changing any weapons systems
These are amazing! Thank you for doing this!
The Timber Wolf and the Nova are my Teo favorite to play from Mechwarrior 2 to now
Best mech in the BT universe, IMHO. Fast enough to keep up with the mediums, with the armor of a heavy and firepower that competes with assaults.
When first spotted by Inner Sphere soldiers. They were not sure if they saw a Marauder or a Catapult. So that was were Madcat came from.
Nope. The *targeting computer* kept going from between identifying it as a Marauder and a Catapult. Hence, MADCAT.
I can’t wait to pilot one in Mechwarrior 5: Clans!
I absolutely agree! As a proud Inner Sphere Mechwarrior, I do fear this on my tabletop.
My favorite mech on MWO!
I argue that the Timberwolf aka the Madcat is the Ultimate Mech or at least one of the ultimate mechs. It can pretty much do practically anything. It's base set up has something for everything.
Trying to hit long range it goes you covered with 2 Lrm pods. Need some heavy hitting medium to long range you got two Large lasers for that. Need to fight up close welp you got two Large Lasers, Two Medium lasers and if your opponent is running low on Armor then it's two machine guns can melts that opponent away.
Not only is it loaded with Heavy Firepower, but it's extremely Quick and fast one of the Fastest heavies in the existence. On top of that it can also jump around the battlefield.
And to make things even better not only is it loaded with firepower, and Extremely fast. It's also is very heavily Armored as well.
Most other mechs especially in the Heavy class, you always have tradeoffs some have a lot of firepower but they are extremely slow. Some are extremely fast but have little fire power. But with the Timberwolf you can nearly have it all.
The Timberwolf is in my opinion one of the best Mechs in the Battletech Universe. A Timberwolf can destroy in any situation you come across it can go toe to toe with Assaults and run nearly circles around them. It can Smash peer heavies, and simply crush anything smaller than it. There is a reason why everyone and their mother tries to focus down a Timberwolf when they see one.
MadCat, my second favorite mech of all time.
What do I love more?
Phoenix Hawk.
based. Phoenix Hawk is my fav.
this is the icon of battletech
To getba mad cat you can get one through salvage. Salvage rights is only acquired by winners. Good luck
From somewhere Rimward of Terra, I swear I can hear, "Get Focht!"
My Favorite Mech Next to the Marauder
In the Inner Sphere, we call em Mad Cats, cause it makes Clanners mad ^^
Timberwolf is number one or two most iconic mech. Deadliest one I now. Can take on any heavy and also take on probably any assault mechs.
...A.k.a. the Swiss Army Knife of BattleMechs ! 😎
My favorite mech in MW2. Clan wolf all the way!
That Wolf eventually became ilKlan was a given, even if it took them a full century to finish the job.
Basically a combination of the Marauder (MAD) with its withering firepower it could easily bring to the forefront, and the indirect fire support of the Catapult (CAT), the Timberwolf was forged by Clan Wolf influenced by two of the most iconic mechs the Inner Sphere ever produced. Thus, the Timberwolf, or better known as the iconic MADCAT thanks to Phelan Kell's tactical onboard display designating it as both MARAUDER and CATAPULT we got the iconic series staple, and arguably the most well-known aspect of all of Battletech itself, and the face of Mechwarrior as a franchise.
I was waiting for "Place your orders now and get a free t-shirt."
My gosh two binary lasers and two heavies must generate an insane amount of heat
I always preferred the vulture but the timber wolf always had better armour
Yes!!
I will want a Star of Timberwolves over any others any day
Fun Fact: The Timberwolf got the IS Name of Mad Cat because Targeting systems would identify Mechs by their silhouette, so when IS Pilots first encountered these mechs the Targeting systems would keep switching from MAD for Marauder and CAT for Catapult.....
Ahh softspot for the timby 🤟🏼🔉🔊❤️
Even though this mech became the titular mascot of the Mechwarrior franchise back in the day, it's kind of ironic that it's a Clan mech. Clans are usually seen as the bad guys of the Battletech universe.
Они не плохие и не хорошие, у них свой путь, путь Керенского)
My absolute favorite Mech since playing this on a 75 megahertz processor NEC PC on Mechwarrior 2.
If you are willing to pay a premium or go to later settings, this mech can give you all you need to seize bloody glory.
Unless you want to smash and bash. Then your premium is a Bersserker or an Man O' War K.
Love your videos man!
Timber Wolf saved my ass in a game of Alpha Strike today.
Don't forget to mention that it's design is influenced by the bomber that dropped two atomic bombs
The MADCAAAAAAAAT !!! Why can't we double thumbs up?
Man that timber wolf model looks funky, I prefer the PGI model
It will be a cold day in hell when I call the MadCat a Timberwolf.
Since PlayStation Madcat always my go to
The Timberwolf isn't my favourite clan mech, but it is on my top ten of all mechs and top five in clan mechs.
Only clan mech I like is the Imp. 100 tons of pure stupid.
If you were trying to sell me the mech, you succeeded.
Hey guys, am I gonna like this game if I liked AC6? I loved the Mech building and customization in that game
depends.
battletech is much more in depth than any armored core. It's focus is on team based attrition. It's closer to a sim than 'video game'
Timberwolf or Madcat, its still beautiful
My personal favorite mech when people say mech I picture this
"Two LRM20, because fu at range" -Tex
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