Exploring an 1800's Abandoned Homestead and Graveyard - Falls Lake N.C.
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2024
- Old Creedmor to Abandoned Homestead Loop Trail (Wake Forest N.C.)
Nestled within the forest of Falls Lake N.C. is an old 1800's hundred abandoned homestead including an old tobacco barn, ancient Oak tree and an early 1800's hundred graveyard where slaves were buried.
Start at the Old Creedmor pull-off right of the utility road and head towards the lake to link up with the MTS (Mountain to Sea) trail. This trail loops through NC game-land.
Trails were not blazed and there was many crossing trail which made it difficult to navigate and stay on course. A GPS or hiking app is a must for this adventure.
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Chapters
0:00 Intro Old Creedmor To Abandoned Homestead
2:59 Strange Forest Sound and getting Lost
5:20 Rocks growing in trees
6:57 Abandoned Homestead
7:12 Ancient Oak Tree
8:13 The Ruins
19:54 The Cemetery
23:12 Falls Lake
Check out this article !!! Rare cicada event this year happens only once every 221 yrs. Now is the time to go out and find a location. It explains the unusual, high-pitched background noise in the video.www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/cicadas-2024-emergence-periodical-brood-2024-map-cicada-rcna134152
I'm just west of you near Burlington and haven't heard one cicada yet.
@sunnydayo6847 Yah it's specific locations there concentrated. Apparently there is a cicada app we're people can report were there located. I learned a lot since this video LOL
@@silverwolvesutility5219 I am north of Charlotte and have not heard any here either. I believe these are 17 year Cicadas you heard. I remember a year we had them in PA when I lived there and they were very loud.
There’s a bit of tree frog in that noise. Maybe there are cicadas but if you are wondering about why there are cicadas so early, consider that the “hollow-like” distinction in the noise is probably tree frogs. They are definitely out now.
@@joyfullone3968 I remember the cicadas in Pa too, cant remember the exact year, we would swim in the cassleman river, had to stay in the river to keep the cicadas off of us, they were thick!
Background noise is 100% cicadas
Is it one of the special hatches? Or just the usual cicadas?
Don't forget to check your happy dog for ticks!🙂
Will do and did ! Bo has his flea and tick medication, and I treat my hiking clothes with Premethrin. Thanks for the concern.
Give a good apple cider vinegar bath afterwards
21:20 - They were most likely marked with a simple fieldstone. No inscriptions. Robert at Sidestep: Adventures into History does a great job showing similar cemeteries, and how they are laid out and marked, down the road in Georgia. He and his companions are very good at being able to locate unmarked graves as well.
Love Robert!
I'm enjoying this Vist
So cool that it was the Cicadas making that sound! Pretty area! Interesting history!
I believed I lucked out or timed it right. With the cicadas. I want to go back in the fall/winter when the leaves are down. Hopefully, I will discover some one relics. Thanks for watching.
My dog is so jealous of your dog right now.
I can imagine
07:17 Wow, what a tree! That should be on some tree registry somewhere! 😊
Love the big oak tree!!! Very interesting spot you're in. I love it!
The sound is CICADAS, of course.
interesting hike thanks for sharing
You bet ! Hoped you enjoyed it.
That back noise is cicadas. Watch out for copper heads.
That's what I started to think. I was more impressed it permanented the whole forest. I did a 6 mile loop, and it was the same pitch everywhere. Thanks for the heads up with the Cooper heads. I had one in my backyard the other day.
Yes, copperheads are prevalent this year. They love cicadas.
@@silverwolvesutility5219 😯
Puppy wants some water 💧
He was doing good. Drinking from the streams
Look for square nail heads in the wood on those buildings. Those are really old. Also, take a close-up picture of the barb wire. The stands can be matched from a barb wire encyclopedia to a specific time period.
Or just ask that huge oak tree. It knows all.
That's great advice. Noted ✅️
Definitely Cicadas 🎉
Indeed! Confirmed by many in the comments below
Wow, that is a beautiful forest
Indeed ! Falls Lake is an interesting place. I have a trip planned this weekend. Stay tuned.
sounds like frogs... I heard them near my brother's house in Southern New Jersey.
Cicadas are the noise you are hearing. They've been super noisy here in middle TN as well!
It's a special year. 2 types of cicadas have emerged at the sametime. It happens once every 221 yrs. I posted an article in the comments. The intensity threw me off a little bit. The video didn't do justice as to how loud it was.
Thank you. ☺
That noise you are hearing are cicadas. Double brood of them this year.
I just looked that up, and thank you ! The article was saying that the last time these 2 broods came out, Thomas Jefferson was president. Now it makes sense why the noise was so intense. I'm excited now I got to hear it.
This is the article I found about this rear cicada event this year www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/cicadas-2024-emergence-periodical-brood-2024-map-cicada-rcna134152
@@silverwolvesutility5219 eh hem, *rare, not rear. (sorry)
Definitely cicadas
Are there waterfalls nearby
In these old cemeteries on farms, field stone markers were used both for whites and blacks. Sometimes, designs or initials were scratched into the field stone markers.
Assuming that a cemetery was a slave cemetery because there were field stone markers is not a good conclusion. Blacks and whites were often in the same cemeteries on these old farms, but in different parts of the cemetery.
My family was from Virginia and Kentucky and I have been to several old farm cemeteries like this. There were probably some wooden markers at some point. The earliest surviving finished stone markers in the family farm cemeteries that I have been to date from the 1850s and my family lived there from the mid 1700s where indications of farm cemeteries survive. Before that time, the locations of cemeteries have been lost. Several family farm cemeteries in Virginia are now in the middle of a live fire artillery practice range so chances are nothing is left to find there.
The locations of some of the parish churches they attended are lost, as well.
No pre-1850s finished stones have survived in the farm cemeteries I have been to. In some of the church or shared family cemeteries I have seen, some much older finished stones were fairly common. I have never seen a finished stone for a slave burial in any of the family farm cemeteries I have been to. In one larger family farm cemetery, knowledge of where slave burials are in the family cemetery has been preserved and there are some "finished" stones but none with inscriptions.
I never disturb field stones....
Great information ! I would like to go back in winter and explore a little more. There was a lot of stuff in the brush. I think I'll wait till the snakes hibernate.
@@silverwolvesutility5219 Yeah, rattlesnakes are a definite concern. After the first freeze and before all of the leaves drop is a good time, or wait until January/February when the leave cover has become compressed.
Look for patterns of stones, as graves still tended to be put in rows.
I've seen a couple of videos exploring other slave cemeteries. About the only 'markers' they used there were rocks. I guess mostly so they wouldn't accidentally disturb an older grave, when digging a new one ? Pretty sad, and somber, if you think about it. Surely those poor, exploited people, deserved far more than that ?!
Indeed ! I guess the best we can do at this point is honor them when visiting these sites. I did feel a profound sadness when I was there. At least there's a plack. You're probably right about the rocks.
@@silverwolvesutility5219 'voiceofreason' is correct about the rocks, as slaves were not deemed worthy of headstones because headstones were expensive, and heck, they were only slaves. That was the mentality back then. At least the cemetery has a sign. (It did not have a plaque---correct spelling, sorry).
the Oak tree is magnificent !!!!
The tall barns are the tobacco barns. Hang the tobacco on the horizontal poles to dry it. Worse part of tobacco work was cropping it. Would get sap on exposed skin and it would cause your skin to itch.
Definitely don’t let it get in your eyes!
the quartz in the trees are a path or a marker by native maybe *
Interesting theory 🤔 They have been there for a while because the bark was forming around the quartz.
Nice shots of the trees. I love old trees!
I try and make it a point to record unique trees 🌳 in my adventures.
Yep, it's cicadas, I myself recently heard this same noise, like a spaceship or something, and everybody told me it was cicadas, and I didn't believe them. But it's true. It's kinda creepy.
I've never heard cicadas so loud before. It threw me off a bit. It was a little creepy.
Cicadas thats what the noise is, I live in NC
Locusts, cicadas !
i went to Mississippi to see my kids and heard the cicadas just like I hear them now behind you. Unreal. It is a constant very low cicada roar. hahaha
You should read the pinned comment I just posted. There is a rear cicada event this year. It happens once every few centuries.
@@silverwolvesutility5219 Rare cicada event.
Locust (cicadas) are here...
Cicadas (katydids)are not locusts.
sounds like frogs....
Lol thanks for letting me know that locust and cicadas are not the same .. they both freak me out I'm not a fan of bugs
Cicadas? That Oak tree was fantastic I will try to save a photo of it. Beautiful hike. I live in NC too.
That noise is the cicadas
That noise you hear sounds like secadas. Also those cross beams that was in the barn was for tobacco. I have spent a lotta days hanging tobacco in those old barns.
Thanks for confirming the cross beams. The first barn with the turkeys looked more like a pen for animals.
The green barn looks like a tobacco drying barn. Open slats on sides and drying racks. (? Maybe)
Yes and it has the blocks on the bottom because they burn SLOW BURNING wood fire in the middle of the barns with all the tobacco strung up to dry and be smoked
very pretty forest... looks cool and clean...
Doesn't sound like cicadas where I live in Florida
I grew up in southeast Missouri but now live in Northern Florida and I can tell you that the Cicadas in Missouri are much louder than the Cicadas in Florida because there are various species of Cicadas that sound different depending on what part of the U.S. you live in.
@steventinsley5664 I'm in Jacksonville, and it's definitely not that loud at all.
I like them. They're a part of summer 😎
The green sided building was probably a tobacco barn. Hang the tobacco on sticks going across the beams to dry.
Cicadas is the sound you hear
Wow!! I couldn't walk that trail now, but what a Historical find. Maybe going back in the late Fall or early Winter and maybe you could find some markers.
I will be going back in the late fall winter.
Cicadas...that's the noise...duh...
I'm what's considered here in N.C. a Yankee. Not much cicada activity in NY. I just found out this year is unique. Once every 221 years, two different types of cicadas emerge at the Sametime. Thus, the unique intensity of the pitch, which threw me off. Thanks for commenting.
Great video 📷
Cicadas sound in background
Yes indeed
The building with block walls that had the big metal things laying there was probably a chicken house. When the chicks hatch they would get under the metal thing to stay warm because it was heated. The chickens were raised to sell for meat
I love history, tfs.
Glad you enjoyed
The earliest known use of cinder blocks dates back to 1900, when Harmon S. Palmer invented a machine that could produce concrete blocks.
That noise is weird. I love Bo
Many commenters have confirmed its cicadas. Thanks for stopping by. Have a great video coming out soon with Bo. Randonautica
Your dog is having so much fun. I use to take my dogs out in the mountains of Colorado. Miss that.
He sure is ! Also, inspires me to keep in shape. He's only 2 yrs old. I'm sure you miss those walks .
I wouldn't be surprised if those stones that are caught up in that tree were actually grave markers from slave burials. Prior to the Civil War, slaves and poor whites often had no headstone..... Just a fieldstone marker. 😔 So it wouldn't be a surprise if a tree grew up underneath one and carried the rocks up with it. 🤷♀️ Not to mention many burial sites are lost because in modern times not many knows that these rocks were used as grave markers, and they get picked up and moved.😒
A tree can't take a rock up with it as it grows. They have been placed there
Probably turkey vultures
I think so, too. Couldn't get close enough to confirm it.
That's what they looked like.
Is this on public land ? Can you give the GPS location? I used to live nearby but I we never went to Falls Lake even though we seemed to hike in many places in Wake County.
It is on public land
In the app AllTrails the hike is called "Old Creedmore to Abandoned Homested Loop" You should be able to Google it as well. Here is the Google maps GPS 35.994964,-78.694907 Trail Head.
Beautiful ❤️😍😍😍 big tree 🌴🌴🌴🌴🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌴
First barn is not a tobacco barn, it’s got stalls, run ins, feed mangers and a flat 2nd story to store hay. Tobacco barns are about 4 stories tall and all open, with hundreds of horizontal poles to hang several levels of green tobacco from. You see evidence of a horse drawn plow, etc., the barn was to house the farms the animals and store their feed, etc. Barm two has the poles, it’s the tobacco barn.
Thanks for the information. Many other farmers in the comments have detailed the same. Plan is to go back in the winter and get some better shots. I'll be more informed next time.
Check out the two different swarms of cicadas that came out at the same time this year in your area.
I sure did. I pinned an article in the comments. The video didn't do justice as to how loud it was. That's what threw me off a little. Thanks for the info.
Judging by the size of the barn. It was quite a large farm.😊
Building seems to have had some recent attempts at stabilization. I see an open galley barn with livestock areas to at least one side. Tobacco was hung from higher inside of barn, I believe. Truly off the grid! How wonderful.
I agree with your observations. I few tobacco modern-day famerers have commented earlier with the same assessment.
When you go out on the lake do a fishing video. I like what you are doing. Keep up the good work. Thank you for a great job.
Will do ! I'll have to leave the 🐶 pup home for that. I have a survival rod I want to test out. Thanks for the suggestion !
Esas maderas están muy bien conservadas tiene potencial para restaurar
Beautiful forest!
It really is!
Any clue why it was abandoned?
Only guess work 🙄 Still doing the research. Falls Lake is man made. The Neuse River, which is now Falls Lake, was damed up some time ago, the state of N.C. could've bought out the farmers. This was a spontaneous venture. I plan on going back in the winter for better photography. I plan on having more historical details for that video.
Cinder blocks uses started in 1900..makes sense this structures are probably turn of the century.
The cicadas are here
Indeed !
The sign said they relocated all the graves and, i would assume, any headstones. It tells you on the sign where these graves are now interned.
i googled cinderblocks were invented in 1913.
I believe the homested was there prior to 1913 and underwent upgrades over the decades. Thanks for looking that up. That's good to know for my next adventures 😊
Maybe cicadas making the noise you hear .
It is 100% cicadas !
The quartz placed in the trees is typical Sasquatch activity. They also build the stone cairns like you saw toward the end of the video.
Not a tobacco barn, it’s got stalls, run ins, feed mangers and a flat 2nd story to store hay. Tobacco barns are about 4 stories tall and all open, with hundreds of horizontal poles to hang several levels of green tobacco from.
especially purple and perhaps other types of marks may warn against trespassing and squatting...
the noise sounds like thousands of cicadas. The trees look like marked for cutting.. not a clear cut but selected cutting. to keep forest healthier.
Could be
Falls lake is a state park. And if this is on the park, then the trails are marked. You apparently ain't on the suggested marked trail. Blue or yellow will be the trail markers you're looking for. The green barn, inside the the racks used to hold fresh tobacco leaves. Then they would dry roast the leaves to be sold at the local vender
I hear ya ! The trails were 100% not marked/blazed. Also, down in the comments below, many wonderful people such as yourself , tobacco farmers, and the like have detailed the purpose and design of those structures in the video. Thanks for commenting.
U ever get the feeling.. or hear... You don't belong here! ?
More so a feeling. Only in cemeteries after a given amount of time.
Frog and toad breeding pond near?
It was cicadas. Many comments below have confirmed that me.
Sorry the second building is tobacco barn
I would not expect there to be grave stones. Likely just field stone markers and indentions remain.
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Plow from the 20's
Tobacco barn, the brackets you called rafters actually accommodated the hanging of the tobacco leaves. Leaves were attached to sticks...maybe 1"x1" wooden slats, for lack of better words, and then hung to dry/cure. If you notice, there appeared to be what was once a "furnace"/fireplace to introduce heat to help the tobacco cure. My Poppy cultivated over 700 acres of prime cigarette tobacco in Forsyth county, and he called those buildings "baccker barns". Regardless of what folks think of tobacco and it's impact, NC grew the best cigarette tobacco on the planet. Tobacco $ money built the State of NC, paved it's roads, built it's schools, churches and families and helped NC evolve into what it is today. Unfortunately tobacco has been so vilified that even my home state of NC has essentially turned it's back on the industry, the industry that sustained NC for generations.
I might have to do a video on some of these very informative comments. Thank you for this great post. I plan on going backbin the late fall winter to get some better photography. I have a list of what to look for from the comments. I might pin your post at the too.
@@silverwolvesutility5219 you are very welcome to do so. Thanks for responding!
Peleg Rogers ( 1807 - 1866 ) ? So, he died at 59 years old. You have to wonder if he died from smoking his OWN tobacco ? How ironic would that be ?
I think a lot of people died from smoking their own tobacco. No one knew anything about cancer then.
Smoking real tobacco does not give one cancer, especially when smoked in a pipe. If that were the case, then the Native Americans would have figured that out and not smoke tobacco. But they did smoke tobacco, and they smoked it frequently.
@@maggiesfarm7970 sorry but that is incorrect. Smoking real tobacco straight, without any additives, did not cause cancer. If that were the case, then Native Americans would have died out hundreds of years ago.
@@maggiesfarm7970 I believe that, and various articles online seem to back that up. The same as many now restricted drugs - like morphine and cocaine - used to be pretty readily available, at the local store, in the 1800s and before. Then they figured out they were becoming addictive, and killing people, and it became more regulated after that.
Yeah my great-grandparents were tobacco Farmers out in Bladen county, North Carolina. And they were still alive and running around doing the daily tasks on the farm back when I was still a youngster in the early 1990s. And both of them smoked unfiltered Camel cigarettes all the way up until they died of old age. 🤷♀️ My grandfather was 93 years old when he died, my grandmother was 95 years old! Lol! 🤷♀️😄
Smoking isn't good for you, and it does damage your lungs over the years. But the natural old-school tobacco that they smoked most of their lives didn't have the kind of addictive chemicals in it that they do now. 🤷♀️ And they didn't start putting those addictive chemicals and their cigarettes until our own government decided to start attacking the tobacco companies by jacking up tax rates on tobacco. It started such a cascading profit loss does a tobacco companies decided to start adding extra addictive chemicals on top of the natural nicotine that's already in tobacco as a way to ensure not only that people didn't quit smoking..... But that they actually smoked MORE! 🤷♀️ Oddly enough..... Our own benevolent government seems to be okay with that! 🤔 Because the federal government doesn't really care about our health..... They just use the health scare as a way to justify their raising of taxes on tobacco products! 🤷♀️ And this is most evident over the last few years with how they have treated the new vaping trend. 🙄 The federal government began losing massive amounts of tobacco tax-revenue as a result of smokers switching to vaping. 🤷♀️ And they are not happy about losing money. So now they've started attacking The vaping industry as if it's worse than tobacco! 🤦♀️ You see??..... The lesson we have all learned today is that the government is GREEDY and FULL OF SHIT! And you shouldn't trust anything they say!..... Even if they tell you the sky is blue. 😒
Yo masman dog jumped some turkey's nice brother
Were they turkey's ? Couldn't get a good look. I thought they might have been turkey vultures. You would know.
Cicada's!
the old barn is where you dried the tobacco....
Indeed. I few tobacco farmers have commented earlier and left some great details about those barns. Which barns were for animals, etc.... Even pointed out the heating source to dry out the tobacco. Thanks for stopping by.
Beautiful tree ? Creepy tree
A little creepy yes ! But I find beauty in its uniqueness. Not something you come across everyday.
@@silverwolvesutility5219Sasquatch!
as far as you walked.. howdid they get all the building supplies and farm equipment in.. Perhaps they milled own wood but it did not look like road or wagon trail where you walked in?
There were so many trails crossing each other, I'm sure one of them there main road.
horse stable... probably accompanied some sort of travelers rest over/stop... in very remote times... so where is the cabin/mess? See, there it is, very old foundation bricks too! That old barn fared better than the old brick foundations, let that be a lesson to all builders out there/here.
Great information. I will be going back in the winter to get a better video. I'll make it a point to record the craftsmanship. Any suggestions/details on what to focus on would be appreciated.
@@silverwolvesutility5219 Check out the nails used in framing and siding on old buildings, that can also give you a clue as to relative age and whether something is added on. The modern round, mass-produced nail we have today started becoming prevalent in the 1880's-1890's. Prior to that they would be square nails.
Cinder blocks first started showing up in the early 1900's, uniform "modern" brick would be roughly Civil War era onwards, and hand-made (inconsistent size and color) brick would be older than that. Fieldstone is always a possibility as a foundation up until the late 1800's, though it's my understanding that was less common after modern bricks became available.
@geoffreyreuther5260 Will do that. Your post is ✅️ noted. I have plans to go back in winter to get a better look at the area.
If you go back in the winter please post clear directions to get there, like where to park and get on the trail head. My daughter lives near Falls Lake and we hike around there when I visit her.@silverwolvesutility5219
@bobdlowrider I left some details in the description of the video. I found it using the AllTrails app. It's a little tricky getting to and most of the trails are unmarked. Here is a web link that can get you started
www.alltrails.com/trail/us/north-carolina/old-creedmore-to-abandoned-homestead-loop
It's cicadas. locusts.
Locust are a different insect
@@janicegelbhaar7352 yes, they are.
The trail blazing is grotesque.
I think it might have something to do with the power utility road close to that part of the trail. Or some type of gameland marker.
cicadas?
It was cicadas ! As many kind people have let me know here in the comments. I pinned a good article link at the top of the comments talking about a rare cicada event this year. Happens only every 221 yrs. It explained for me at least, the intensity of the sound and why it threw me off a little bit.
There are also 17 year locusts
The cinder blocks could be 100yrs old. If not older.
As for that tree I've seen one bigger six men couldn't reach around it
I've seen lager myself, not that often , and in such a unique setting. I'm going back in the winter to get some better shots.
Locust season
where is this? I literally live 2 seconds from Falls lake!!
Here is the Alltrails link to the location www.alltrails.com/trail/us/north-carolina/old-creedmore-to-abandoned-homestead-loop
@silverwolvesutility5219 Thank you! my daughter found it too! can't wait to go see it!
Looks like Sasquatch has been in that area do you know of any sightings?
I dont not. Nor have I had one. Someone did comment in one of my videos about an interesting experience he had in Uwharrie national forest, maybe Bigfoot related. I'm thinking of sharing that comment in a future camping video in the Uwharries. But ya, Uwharrie is supposedly a hot spot for BF sightings.
Bigfoot
You heard them too, huh?
Not a tobacco barn. Livestock with hay storage.
Fun video, one thing I noticed is there isn’t an empty beer can or bottle in sight.
You're right ! It's not the easiest place to get too. Will see what I find when I go back in the winter.
@@silverwolvesutility5219 Great, looking forward to your next video. Greetings from New England, new sub.
Is that poison ivy on the tree? Sure is. I know that chit! It loves me! I don't love it!
Same here! I can spot that chit a mile away 👍
More than likely those trees were not there. In the During The Times. Or they were planted at that time. They look just barely old enough some of the Bigger ones.
I'm sure that oak tree was there. It's at least 300 years old. Everything else was cut down back in the day. I wouldn't be surprised if someone was hung from that oak.
Died a free man.
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