Like Liszt didn't have enough to do musically with his own compositions. The guy was amazing. Would have loved to have hung out with him. Always had something cooking. Nice.
Une des moins connue symphonie la 2 e de Beethoven repensée avec brio et fidélité par le maître du piano F Liszt et restituée par le virtuose C Katsaris ! Quel bonheur !
Katsaris is good, but he literally changes some things from the way they're written which is creative but also kind of annoying (e.g. 33:56). Thus, I'm not in his cult-like following and prefer Konstantin Scherbakov's interpretations. Katsaris plays this piece like it's a piano piece; Scherbakov plays it like a symphony for orchestra. Regardless, great video!
That was what I noticed as well... I find the frequent changes in tempo especially annoying. He's basically doing what you're always told NOT to do in an orchestra: accelerate when it's convenient, e.g. in terms of fingering and play slower when it gets more demanding. This makes it as you say - a piece for piano although it actually isn't...
Well it's a transcription and Liszt had to obviously take liberties, compromise and cut out certain melodies from the original. What this pianist is doing at that "creative" part you pointed out is actually just playing what Beethoven himself wrote, which I think is an odd thing to criticize. I think Katsaris has looked up other transcriptions or just straight up at the symphony score and added details he thinks are missing which I don't find any more strange than Liszt writing ossias/suggestions.
Hmm I agree that it would've been nice to hear him play it as it is written, but I disagree where you said he treats it like a piano piece. He makes a lot these changes in order to create effects that imitate the orchestra more closely.
Thank you for posting these. It's so nice to read the rolling score with the music fleshed out. You really capture the spirit of Beethoven's musical ideas from Liszt's formidaable reduction score. Especially in the Finale. Wow! No easy feat, I'm sure.
The piano doesn't match up completely correct to the piano piece being played. Some of it and the count is off In certain areas along with a plethora of other things. But it very beautiful, I'm glad it was played this way. I guess the pianist got caught in the moment.
![Beethoven: Symphony No. 2 in D major, Op. 36 [Böhm & VPO] (with Score)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/sXYSBmGFVgE/mqdefault.jpg)
This is pretty good on piano actually. I'm glad youtube auto played this. I never would have clicked on it.
Like Liszt didn't have enough to do musically with his own compositions. The guy was amazing. Would have loved to have hung out with him. Always had something cooking. Nice.
I would have loved to have hung out with him, too, but I doubt he would have had time! He must have worked so hard all his life.
This guy is a maestro of the orchestra
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Symphony 9 moment? Perhaps he remembered this and chose to reuse it for his 9th.
I think its coincidence because it's just the basic circle of fifths and sounds similar, but it's own thing.
@@aswomebro2601 oh ok
@@aswomebro2601 I don't think is a coincidence is basically the motif of 1st movement
Maybe after the fifths there is a referring to the 7th symphony
I can now finally say: first! (all jokes aside tho, this has been a joy listening to)
Une des moins connue symphonie la 2 e de Beethoven repensée avec brio et fidélité par le maître du piano F Liszt et restituée par le virtuose C Katsaris ! Quel bonheur !
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Katsaris is good, but he literally changes some things from the way they're written which is creative but also kind of annoying (e.g. 33:56). Thus, I'm not in his cult-like following and prefer Konstantin Scherbakov's interpretations. Katsaris plays this piece like it's a piano piece; Scherbakov plays it like a symphony for orchestra. Regardless, great video!
That was what I noticed as well... I find the frequent changes in tempo especially annoying. He's basically doing what you're always told NOT to do in an orchestra: accelerate when it's convenient, e.g. in terms of fingering and play slower when it gets more demanding. This makes it as you say - a piece for piano although it actually isn't...
Well it's a transcription and Liszt had to obviously take liberties, compromise and cut out certain melodies from the original. What this pianist is doing at that "creative" part you pointed out is actually just playing what Beethoven himself wrote, which I think is an odd thing to criticize. I think Katsaris has looked up other transcriptions or just straight up at the symphony score and added details he thinks are missing which I don't find any more strange than Liszt writing ossias/suggestions.
Hmm I agree that it would've been nice to hear him play it as it is written, but I disagree where you said he treats it like a piano piece. He makes a lot these changes in order to create effects that imitate the orchestra more closely.
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The 15th sonata for piano has so at least 1 common theme with this symphony
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It seems like Katsaris is playing different notes than what's on this score at times. Anyone know the edition he happens to be playing from?
this edition but with his own modifications. as far as im aware, they are not available anywhere online. imo his modifications are very hit or miss
Thank you for posting these. It's so nice to read the rolling score with the music fleshed out. You really capture the spirit of Beethoven's musical ideas from Liszt's formidaable reduction score. Especially in the Finale. Wow! No easy feat, I'm sure.
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The piano doesn't match up completely correct to the piano piece being played. Some of it and the count is off In certain areas along with a plethora of other things. But it very beautiful, I'm glad it was played this way. I guess the pianist got caught in the moment.
He simply added back a few of the orchestral parts that Liszt omitted
@@brent3522 noone cares.
@@joanna.laurarznecki no need to be hostile just because you like being ignorant and void of common sense 🤷♂️
@@brent3522 learn to read
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