The World of the Franco-Prussian War - The 19th Century up to 1870 I GLORY & DEFEAT
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Welcome to the first primer episode for Glory & Defeat. In this first primer episode we will take a broad look at the industrial revolution and the emerging new ideologies of the 19th century: Communism and Nationalism.
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» LITERATURE
Hobsbawm, Eric: The long nineteenth century. 3 Bände. London 1962-1987
Kugler, Martin: Fehleinschätzungen der Menschheit, in: Die Presse v. 28.2.2010. o.S
Osterhammel, Jürgen: Die Verwandlung der Welt. Eine Geschichte des 19. Jahrhunderts. München 2009
Bruckmüller, Ernst et. al. (ed.): Putzger. Historischer Weltatlas. Berlin 2001
Staas, Christian: Im Schatten der Schlote, in: Geo Epoche Nr. 30. Die industrielle Revolution. 2008. S. 72-85
Bischoff, Jürgen: Vorwärts durch Raum und Zeit, in: Geo Epoche Nr. 30. Die industrielle Revolution. 2008. S. 56-71
» SOURCES
Engels, Friedrich: Die Lage der arbeitenden Klasse in England. Leipzig 1845
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»CREDITS
Presented by: Jesse Alexander
Written by: Cathérine Pfauth, Prof. Dr. Tobias Arand, Jesse Alexander
Director: Toni Steller & Florian Wittig
Director of Photography: Toni Steller
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Editing: Toni Steller
Motion Design: Philipp Appelt
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Research by: Cathérine Pfauth, Prof. Dr. Tobias Arand
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Hope you liked the first primer episode. Everything is still coming in very hot. We had a few ideas to ad chapter markers and don't rush through every episode. This way it should be easier to digest. And things like using contemporary video and photos of some of thing we talk about make sense to us since there aren't that many photos we will be able to use.
PS: Will you cover the war day by day on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter?
Is the Rhineland series on UA-cam. If not where can I see it
@@mikecrase3047 No. Like 16 Days In Berlin, you must pay for it to watch on the Real Time History website
@@percamihai-marco7157 will be on Nebula
It has begun
So this is my life for the next year.....interesting
A great intro to the topic! One minor remark : Electricity (from lead-acid batteries) was in use for telegraph connections, and was also there for arc lamps in use as floodlights on some important construction sites. But lighting public spaces was done with gas. (Only in more important towns) This gas being produced by heating mineral coal. The de-gassed coal was named cokes and had it’s use in iron production where it’s value lay in it being more pure than raw coal. At home the more well-to-do went from candles and oil-lamps (the oil came from whales, and was later replaced by petroleum which literally means ‘stone oil’) through gaslight to electric light, but the latter was only after the invention of the incandescent light bulb by Edison towards the end of the 19th century.
Re: electricity, yes - we had to massively condense our original draft for this episode since there is of course much more to say on the 19th century. So we went past 1870 a bit with some of the technology references.
I look forward on our lunch breaks to tell my work colleagues about this war from what I'll learn from these videos while they beg me to shut up 😊
This was an amazing start for the series. Great stuff
Yes, this is a beautiful production; the illustrations and paintings are stunning. Great quality, like my Krups espresso machine :-)
Indeed Penguin
Most critically, the railroads made it possible to supply a really huge army. When Napolean I tried to field a half million men for his invasion of Russia, he could not supply it. By the American Civil War they could keep a huge army in the field perpetually, supplied by rail.
Up to end of wwl most german supply colums had been horsepulled waggons.
@@brittakriep2938 ...but got to the vicinity by railroad.
@@brittakriep2938 Rail transport did the majority of the way, horse wagons were then used to get the supplies from the railheads to the troops.
@@magni5648 : Raliway really was important, and trains often had light AA defence weapons. A sidenote: The personel which defended the trains , also against partisan attacks, often had not been soldiers, but railway police or postal guards.
May the best moustache win
Hon hon hon
I should've won.
@@presidentlouis-napoleonbon8889 you could do better :(
An excellent overview of quite a tumultuous period. Looking forward to more!
Hope you guys focus on Napoleon III trying to live up to his famous uncle.
we will!
@@realtimehistory That's such an interesting narrative, and honestly having at least one "main character" to follow makes it so easier to understand. History UA-cam videos can just turn into a list of facts sometimes. I think what viewers like best is to have the narration exclusively describe the important figures' actions and the consequences to follow them. And lots of animated battle maps too!
In many ways he had more of an impact on modern France than his uncle, it's just his achievements were more in urban planning and domestic reforms, not conquest.
Terrific work, I eagerly await the next installment as you clearly put some quality work into this production
thanks, we do our best with the support from the community.
I was skeptical about you guys at first but this is something else. I can't wait for this series; you're off to a great start!
thank you
I'm guessing you haven't watched any of their prior body of work? To be fair, it's not on this channel, but you should check out any of the following: "The Great War, 16 Days in Berlin, Rhineland 45". It's all top quality, well written and presented.
@@Tekisasubakani I watched the entire Great War series with Indie and I've seen a few of the later videos but it just felt like the channel should've ended with the end of the war and anything afterwards seems unnecessary. I haven't watched their Rhineland documentary though, I do think I'll check that out.
Finally a series that bring this IMPORTANT era of European and World history to light
It should be noted that America had breech loading and lever action rifles by the civil war but generals didn't want to learn new tactics so refused Lincoln's request that new rifles be mass produced. Some units actually took out bank loans so their soldiers could buy Spencer and Henry rifles. One reason the U.S. cavalry eventually turned the tide on Confederate cavalry was they were some of the only units given new rifles. I only bring this up because the Germans studied the civil war in detail and made a lot of reforms they used in 1870 and even in 1866 based on these observations
The Dreyse needle rifle was introduced into service in the 1840ties more than 15 years before the civil war!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyse_needle_gun
Attention! In 1866 Prussia and his allies had needlefire rifles in 15,4 mm, Austria and his allies had muzzleloaders in 13,9 mm . Also only troops of Austria and Prussia had been well trained and equipped. Bavarian, Royal Saxon, Württbergian, Hessen - Darmstadt and Hannover troops had been useable, but the quality of training and equipment was lower. Oldenburg, Mecklenburg- Schwerin, perhaps Hessen- Kassel could field one or two Regiments, here also the officers had too few training. The troops of duchies, principalities and hanseatic towns 55- 1000 men had been low trained men, in peace time only a few of them realy served. The really small states had not the money for training, equipment and army schools, so like in HRE times, the troops of small states could be used only as guards, escorts, transport, garrison and fortress soldiers. In 1867, when the North German Federation was founded, the non Royal Saxon troops had been integrated in prussian army. Full regiments could keep their names and ,holy' regiment flags, but the micro - armies became parts of prussian Regiments.
Breechloaders and repeaters amde up a very small minority of the weapons used in the American Civil War.
Frankly, there wasn't much that could be learned from the ACW for the contemporary european armies. The entire strategic environment was just so radically different that you'd often learn the absolutely wrong lessons. The ACW was fought by unprepared polities using hastily-raised armies that were tremendously short on trained leadership, had to fight over long distances and in sparse infrastructure and basically had to take anythign they could get for armaments especially early on.
Europe meanwhile had standing, professional armies with large cadres of professional officers and much more standardised equipment, operating against similar opponents over shorter distances and with a lot more infrastructure. Things that could have never worked for the armies of the American Civil War did in fact work quite well in contemporary european wars, and vice-versa. To make a basic example, take the thrid day of Ghettysburg: Replace the three divisions of Pickett's Charge with prussian regulars toting Dreyses and you'd likely see the Union's center getting broken outright.
@@preriowy Picking a well-known action as an example hardly makes me a "lover" of either side.
And for the record, the CSA were idiots and wholly deserved to lose the war they started.
About time! Hardly anything documentary - wise on this pivotal conflict
So pumped up for more history !
Awesome! This war is so important to world history but gets so rarely spoken about, unlike the Crimean war which didn’t change much but is so much more well known
A superb start to the series. Cheers to the crew, great work as always!
The steam engine ' Locomotion', was housed on Platform 4 at Darlington Railway Station. It was later moved to the Museum at North Road Station, Darlington. This is were the photograph for this video was taken. Locomation has been moved to the National Rail Museum, based at Shildon. It is now part of a collection of steam trains from this era. It's well worth a visit.
It is so crazy to think how much changed right after Napoleonic wars. Like 15 years later there is railroads. This ofc can be said about almost every period. 15 years ago we didn't have smart phones.
So I don't know why it feels so crazy.
Smart phones seem to be the only new thing in the last 15 years, or the last 30
@@nicholasparker2086 Smart phones are closer to little under 20 year old. But there is so much new technology and improvements that I can't even bother to start listing. Plus these days there is also new domain of inventions: software.
This prelude series has already blown my mind and expectations. Quality educational content!
Thanks, glad you like it.
I am looking forward to learning more about candidacy of 1) Leopold of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen to the throne of Spain, 2) Ems Telegram, 3) Needle Gun X Chassepot. One more thing, Did Bismark really spelled his ambitious plan before Benjamin Disraeli in 1862?
Looking forward?? Looks like you could host this programm yourself!
Are you history teacher cause I heard these terms for first time😳
Jesse should get Gun Jesus to speak on the Chassepot.
There were several to the throne of Spain, none of them with much of a strong claim. The question of who got the throne was mostly down to the politicians, and felt to the people as completely arbitrary. The Spanish press jokingly refereed to Hohenzollern-Sigmaringe as "Ole ole si me eligen" (Hurrah hurrah if they choose me). Finally, an Italian, Amadeo of Savoy, was chosen. The political situation in Spain was so difficult that he abdicated after barely 3 years.
@@GerackSerack: Hohenzollern- Sigmaringen , the Catholic Swabian branch of Hohenzollern dynasty is older than prussian branch, they never leaved the area arround mountain and castle Hohenzollern, but they had in HRE time only a small territory and the rank of Graf/ count. A sidenote: Many german castles names start with ,Hohen...'. This basicly means: The castle on top of mountain ...
This is amazing I'm excited to dig into this thank you for putting forth such an insightful piece with important perspectives put in there. Before my great grandfather died I asked him why our family came here from Germany in the 1850's, and he said it was because his father could sense another European war on the horizon once the Prussians came in to unite Germany. He was certainly prescient.
Great start, I can see this being a really comprehensive series. Thank you!
Thank you for putting light on this
AUDIO ALWAYS PERFECT. Thank you for your lessons.
I love how they use the photo of Karl as an old man & Friedrich as a young man. When the manifesto was written, they were 27 & 29.
believe me I checked the archives we use (Getty) and that was the youngest I found from Mr Marx.
@@realtimehistory Ahhh… The madness of the pre-selfie age.
legend has it that Marx was born looking just like that!
But that is not when their pics were done.
English looked like a painting, while Marx looked like a photo
I love this! That you’re trying this formula on more historical events
The transatlantic cable is still absolutely incredible to me.
Great work I am super excited to see this series come to fruition⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
This has been out for a month but I had to manually search for it since it wasn’t recommended (thanks UA-cam, great work!)
2:25 that's the most 1800s idea I've ever heard
Looking forward to watching the rest of this!
WOW I’m excited about this project!
Thanks for another great story. You guys are the best.
Nicely informative video.
Glad you liked it
So excited to see this war covered!
Will follow for sure.
I’ll follow this series with great interest. ;)
Thanks for covering this war! Hopefully enough people back you to keep this free! I am a student in university and in a lot of debt, so can't really fund you sadly.
I love your channel keep up the great stuff!
Excellent , Excellent Video From Wonderful Historical Channel (TIK)
This is not TIK.
4:30 The Telegraph. Wonder if this is going to be important later on
Love this channel so much. Can you do a vid on the boxer rebellion?
Hopefully this series goes strong I’d love to see it finished. :)
Great job you guys.
And excellent concept, really like the concept of real time in 150 years. Great idea!
This makes me want Vic 3 sooo much more
Two days ago I got through WW1 on The Great War channel. I get up to the part where you take over, and I watch the first couple of ‘after WW1’ videos. I then thought that, before covering after WW1, I should really go back and study the Austro-Prussian and Franco-Prussian wars, I do a search, and here you are! Wow!
You should consider doing the Napoleon Wars! That would be epic!
If the 19th century were a song it would be "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger" by Daft Punk.
This video makes me wish Victoria 3 was already out
I was thinking of the possibilities in that game while watching this video
It’s already been almost three years since this series started, I think it’s time to rematch it again 😊
I am waitng for other episodes. I hope for some personal stories from ordinary soliders :) both sides ofc.
and you will get them starting July 13
I’m glad I can watch this from start to finish as it comes out, I’m still trying to catch up on the Great War Hahha
The American Army uniform was greatly influenced by the French. The most blatant example was the Zouaves.
Interestingly after the Franco-Prussan war, influenced by the Prussian Victory, the US Army briefly adopted the Pickelhaube as a dress uniform helmet:
The Zouaves were just a few units in the US Civil War - most were a dark blue or gray or butternut (kind of brown ish)
@@tylerjerabek5204
I know, I am not saying the entire Union Army was wearing pantaloons. 🙂 The American Armumy also adopted the French kepi/forage cap as well.
Amazing
Please! This promises to be a GREAT documentary series.
It would be wonderful if people who don´t quite understand English had the opportunity to follow this documentary series.
If you please open the possibility for subtitles in more languages than English I would be happy to help with the translations into Swedish.
a great indepth view
far ahead of the usual
tosh UA-cam allows !!
What a great presentation! All important topics covered with precision and depth. The presenter must be of German origin :-)
11:26
I, as a Germany, slowly began to unconsciously smile when hearing it.
I’m curious as to why you index Nationalism to the French Revolution in 1789 when the American Revolution predated it by nearly 15 years? Nevertheless, THANK YOU for doing this series. You guys are top quality and I’m eager to follow along and learn about such a vital and little understood period of history. Ps. Loved the Great War series!
For our series on the Franco-Prussian war we are wearing Euro centered glasses admittedly.
Both revolutions are widely cited but they seem like odd examples. More about republicanism (self-government, without a monarch) than nationalism (making the state coextensive with a nation and making it reflect the “will” of the nation). The efforts of Germans and Italians to unite politically and forge collective identities seem like better examples. And the efforts of Hungarians and other Eastern European nationalities to carve out independent states for themselves from within multi-ethnic empires. I suppose the example of France especially (a dynamic republic, already coextensive with a nation) helped inspire nationalism elsewhere in Europe?
Like looking forward to the series. Its the prequel to Indy Nidel’s World War 1 series definitely
This is amazing.
I am excite
Happy to be earlyy
Pour la France! 🇫🇷
This will be a great series. Some of these attributes are sorely lacking in our modern times.
It is time...
kept you waiting, huh?
@@realtimehistory Looks like age hasn't slowed you down one bit. :-)
We should bring back Sedan day as a national holiday.
I'd like to note that the Holy Roman Empire wasn't destroyed by Napoleon. It was dissolved by Francis I of Austria as a way of preventing Napoleon from seizing the title after the Coalition defeat at Austerlitz. Napoleon didn't want to acknowledge the dissolution of the empire for a short while afterwards.
It was Franz the 2nd.
so the next episodes is going to be uploaded on youtube ? some of us can't afford to back the campaign
yes, the entire series will be on UA-cam. Backers do get access to bonus content though that is related to each weekly episode.
@@realtimehistory thank you
This is a great idea to shed some light on one of the most important "forgotten" (not entirely, but it's not mentioned nearly enough, I believe) wars of the XIXth century, caught between the "Panache" of Napoleon's campaigns and the brutality of the Great War and far shorter than both. I am thankful for this series, truly.
I would however like to point out that if it's true that communist and nationalist ideologies do have a place when speaking of the two French Revolutions of the XIXth century, I do not believe they are the foundations of them. Since 1830 and 1848 are both based on the fear of the Bourgeoisie to see individual liberties silenced and a return to Absolute Monarchy by Divine Right. Freedom of the press usually being the cause of revolt, in Paris. The more comunist-leaning working class revolutionaries played a big role as well. However their economical demands were mostly ignored by the powers which replaced both the Restoration Monarchy in 1830 and the July Monarchy in 1848.
Both are a far cry from something like 1789 and its overall very nationalistic ideals. Or to something like the Russian October Revolution and, to stay French, The Paris Commune (post war of 1870), being communist revolts, mostly. Although many worker local strikes and riots do errupt in larger industrialized cities all throughout the country, but these never spring into full blown nation-wide events. Maybe these were what you were mentioning?
Either way, I probably rambled a lot more than I could have and now almost lost my point. Either way, you have earned a like, a subscribe and an enthusiastic Frenchman eagerly awaiting to learn more about a war too often overlooked!
Great
For the algorithm and the history.
In 4:12 this machine is for wheat and corn? To separate leaves from seeds?
How were their rail lines laid out to the fron? The military attaches would have witnessed the use of rails in the American civil war just a few years before. What were their mobilization plans like compared to each other?
As late as 1863, the news of the Battle of Gettysburg took several days to reach and be reported in Europe. I am not sure why. Although this was still a big improvement on the two or three months at the time of the American War of Independence.
is there an order to these?
I love how you guys introduced Engles as a writer instead of a capitalist who owned a textile manufacturary
You should clarify, that he was born the son of an industrialist, remaining indifferent to the family business all his life and chose to become a writer instead.
How come there is no decorated set like in the other series?
Bismarck has a plan.
Bismarck ALWAYS has a plan.
Tahiti?
@@realtimehistory it’s a reference from the Otto von Bismarck series by the channel Extra credits. :)
@@melkor3496 but does he have faith? He just has to have faith
this put me into an existential spiral thinking about how most of human society is still adjusting to the industrial revolution… then the internet age began an threw even more chaos into the mix
those Engels and Marx fellas seem just as relevant as ever
When does the Rhineland series starts!
Shall we begin
Yessssssss
At the 32 second mark, there is a picture of an African Soldier. Did the French Army have a large amount of African Soldiers from their colonies that fought in the war?
not sure what qualifies as large, but yes they fielded colonial troops and we will go into a bit more detail about them
First time also, that Foreign Legion units fought on French soil.
A lot of people were “mad” before they ever set foot on a train I imagine.
Those steam engines with the fancy wheels at the two minute mark, like coronation and royal george have wheels called plug wheels. These were made by a man called Tom Hackworth from Wylam (At the time the train center of the world) and I think they were invented so you could cast a whole wheel while it was still strong and light enough to be used on a train. They were later superceded but stayed in use for about twenty years between the 1830s and 50s. NOT BAD FOR A GEORDIE EHHHHH????
Indeed. The industrial revoloution was the beggining of the environmental apocyplse we are facing today.
Salute our great mentors!
I'd just like to point out that nationalism in england existed since the 600s as st. Bede mentions it in his writings
That's very different from modern post-French Revolution nationalism, though.
@@varana exactly. You can argue for something like it in 17th century England, but...
Slight note my brother, for you sound quality, try to eliminate the echo that you’ve got happening when you’re speaking. Also I’d have a set or something built around you while speaking instead of just a black backdrop
we won't go back to a full set, it's not workable for us to have separate sets while we are filming several projects simultaneously (remember we are also producing The Great War)
Manchester - original and best
The song Was Ist Des Deutschen Vaterland has a line it it which states that the Fatherland is everywhere a German is a friend and a Frenchman is an enemy.
HYPE
7:00
Germany previous self was called Prussia or Prussian Empire? And before that was called Holy Roman Empire? Is that means Germany is the successor or descendant of Roman Empire?
What about the Austro-Prussian war?
This will be a 4-part series about the events leading up to the Franco-Prussian War. The German Wars of Unification will get an extra episode next week.
@@realtimehistory I love you guys 😘
The nation idea was already in ancient greece long before french revolution
Looks like the advertisement on the Great War-Channel for this channel didnt work so well considering the amount of subs
thank you for writing off a project after not even a day
@@realtimehistory that wasnt the intention
I have no idea why this didn't get displayed in any UA-cam recommendations for me, I had to go through the Discord link. :/
Also, I don't think Meme Man wanted to disparage the project, just - in a similar vein - point out that this is not very visible even for Great War viewers, for some reason.
I believe they reached their some of the crowd funding goals. A number of people will watch on a different platform. The Great War channel ad got me 😎
The Great War channel ad got me here
666 subs and 6th comment? Lucky numbers I guess