I tried your recipe this morning and was blown away by how great the coffee was. Of all the Switch methods I’ve tried, this one has been the absolute best for me.
Finally the review is here! I've asked about this and have been waiting patiently. It is my dripper of choice, after using most drippers in the market. I literally never take out any others since I've started using this, and never missed a single one. It does all without a significant compromise in either way. Thank you so much for the review my man and a new recipe I can't wait to play with.
Happy to finally drop this one! It’s become one of my go-to drippers, the other is the April. Glad I can give you a recipe to play around with. Would love to hear your thoughts on it after you give it a go!
I’ll definitely be trying this recipe. I love the Switch, mostly using it in steep-and-release mode (fine grind, short steep) but also as a stock V60. When using it for pour-over, I find it has the advantage that you can pre-heat the bejesus out of it by closing the switch and filling it with boiling water, making it better than any stock glass, metal or ceramic V60.
@@Sprometheus I still preheat by placing it on my fellow stag kettle open with a filter and the kettles lid inside the funnel. Be careful of course because it does get hot.🙂
Absolutely agree, my other drippers just mostly sit on the shelves after I started using Switch. The brewing versatility and result consistency is just too hard to beat.
1:24 Think you meant to say it the other way around Sprometheus, it lifts the ball to allow the brew to pass through the Hario Switch, and it lowers it to block the hole where the brew would otherwise flow out of into the decanter of choice.
Just hoping to prevent mistakes for peeps who follows the video to a T, without taking a look at the manual. Could follow a recipe with the valve the wrong way. But definitely only a technicality. It definitely doesn't change much.
another hack you can do with this: take the hario mugen and put that in instead of the glass V60 it comes with (they both use the same mechanism to lock onto hario bases), now you have a low bypass plastic dripper that you controll the flow over. This type of brewing works exeptinally well with super low fine grinders, maybe you could use a C40 but I'd suggest a well aligned flat burr grinder with some clarity focused burrs
Chance upon this comment, guess what? I had the same idea and tried it out too. Was so pumped when the mugen fit into the base. Would be trying to get a ceramic mugen as I’m nit a fan of hot water and plastic interactions.
We need a bigger Mugen. The new switch and only one available is the 03. For me at least in "clever" mode the 02 version was just too small and wasteful considering price of filter
OK, I had to try it with the Clever Dripper. Using the recipe with an Ethiopian light roast, its wildly good. Better than anything I've gotten before from the Clever. It was a hassle, taking it on and off the mug, and I got confused a few times. But, until the Switch is in stock, Sprometheus, you have upped my game here.
I would agree that this is the last dripper you would ever need AND probably the best for most people. The full immersion mode is absurdly easy and absurdly consistent when it comes to getting fantastic results. It definitely tastes better than my clever dripper too. It then gives you all these extra options such as your recipe here should you want to do more with it.
@@rmanalan It just tastes better than the Clever although the difference is small. I think the shape of the switch may give a more even extraction than the shape of the clever. The clever also drains a bit faster although this depends on the filter paper as well.
Dang my dude… every year it feel like we’re adding more steps to the v60… lol I’m still trying to find out the correct grind size for a 20/300g single serving😂
@@Sprometheus lol, We’ll here’s 🍸 to the Sprometheus Method.. may it rein proud with the greats (rao and Hoffmann)! Hey on a different topic, u once made a vid questioning the validity of the taste wheel and that rub some ppl the wrong way but was kinda valid.. what do u think about Dis-bunking the notion the need for an expensive electric grinder when a ($250-350) hand grinder may give u similar results for espresso. The niche is kind of best of both worlds (not too expensive and can compete with the really expensive electric grinders out there).. But can the comandante/kinu give similar results for espresso🤷🏽♂️
@@punitdave7034 thank you my friend I appreciate that. When it comes to electronic vs hand I think the biggest component to that is ease and convenience, that’s really what you’re paying for more or less. I definitely think there are hand grinders out there (more or less the top of the line ones) that can make espresso on par with electric grinders, I don’t think that’s really up for debate; it’s all about priorities. Now I do have a Weber Key coming soon, and I think that one experiment worth looking into is how consistent rpms effect the outcome of the coffee produced. I feel like the jury is still out on that.
As someone who's struggled with the traditional v60 pour over I've found the Switch to be a great investment, it's far less fussy, especially if you don't own a $300+ grinder
Great vid! Will have to try this recipe. I do basically the opposite where I keep it closed during the bloom, and then open it as I start the main pour and keep it open for the rest of the brew like a regular V60. Looking forward to seeing how your recipe compares!
@@Sprometheus Finally got around to trying it and it came great! Very flavorful and a great mouth feel compared to my normal method. A little more effort involved but worth it indeed!
Flattered to see my video's thumbnail in yours! Will try your hybrid recipe. Got me thinking about running brewed coffee through a second time, which can totally be done without drips with the switch
Absolutely agree with your conclusion, the best device for beginners (me) and it grows with you as you start to experiment to find your perfect coffee experience. Depending on your mood and time it can serve you any way you want. The biggest win is that it is not really sensitive to grind size so even a $20 blade grinder is okay.
@@Sprometheus I know… i was kind of encouraging you to do so next time! I know it doesn’t help with the algorithm but god !! Do I appreciate good time stamps
Hi Sprometheus I have been using a switch for about 12 months. My go to recipe is to close the valve for the bloom and followed by a traditional multi pour V60 with it open. One big advantageI have found is being able to preheat really effectively by filling it with boiling water in the closed position. Because it is glass and has greater ability to store heat than plastic you can get it hot enough that it actually contributes to the temperature of the bloom. My current approach is to fill it with cold water and microwave it while my kettle is boiling (not the safest it you can pick it up by the silicone). My measurements using a fast kitchen thermometer show you can gain 5 to 7 degrees C over a traditional plastic v60.
This is a technique that's been used in the beer world for a long time. You do an infusion mash, then batch sparge to rinse the mash and collect the sugars. You'd be surprised how brewing beer can help you brew better coffee. Been thinking about a RIMS system for my French press...
Fun fact: In English, you brew both beer and coffee. In German, it is „brühen“ for coffee but „brauen“ for beer and at least I think of it as two completely different things 😂 „Brühen“ actually means to pour boiling water over something, while „brauen“ is exclusively used for making beer and describes the whole process.
I absolutely love my Hario Switch. I really want to upgrade it to the 03 size but that one has been impossible to find at a reasonable price in my country ever since covid started
Hello, did you manage to get the 03 glass? I am having a hard time to decide whether to get the SSD 200 or the 360 version of the Switch. Where are you located if I may ask?
Excellent video. I didnt find much value in the second percolation you did. The first is important for the bloom, but after that, i believe the rest of the water can fully be added for an immersion. 15g coffee 250g water, medium coarse grind. Still, this video was excellent giving us a relatively simple recipe while driving home the amazing value of this brewer. Nice job!
I was gifted a Yama Silverton a while back and while mostly used it for regular pourover brews the flexibility is amazing, being able to close off to preheat and during the bloom. It also has a not so common combination of a metal filter as well as a ceramic disk to clean up the fines which I've enjyoed not having to purchase extensive paper filters but still get clean brews. Mostly use the 'April coffee' pourover technique of multiple 50g pours every 30s but will definitely have to try out this combination technique!
When in the rabbit hole - get a size 3 funnel as well and a metal filter just to add complexity - lily drip of cause.. still waiting for mine :-).. But really happy with my swift and all the new rabbit holes.
I can’t recommend them enough. Really just a solid option for any occasion. The trick is snagging them when their in stock. Not as hard as a Niche, but still they go quick.
The actual switch would be little practical benefit for me. I use 30g of ground beans and 500ml of water and the Switch is just not big enough. The Clever Dripper is just large enough. In addition, I am a tiny person and when the Clever Dripper is on the counter it is the perfect height to pour the water & ground beans into. It gets uncomfortable when I have to pour & mix it If it is sitting over my 20 oz mug. I like the fact that the Switch is also a v60. Great for a beginners and v60 experimenters. Great Video.
I did this today. Great coffee. Very sweet. Also it had a strong aroma while my coffees never have noticeable aroma and its aroma was sweet too. Also, there was a sheen on top of poured coffee which I do not usually get. I assume all those factors points to a higher extraction than normal. I did a medium fine grin, yet it never stalled - it stayed a stream, never dripping, all the way to the end. I kept my kettle at 209F for all pours. I am going to try the exact same but in a regular V60 tomorrow.
I think you're right and keeping the water at a consistently high temp between pours is key to avoid stalling. I've tried this technique a few times (which I really enjoy, thanks Sprometheus). Without keeping the water temp up I had one cup take 11mins - major stalling and slow drips. Surprisingly wasn't too bad but was just overly long IMO. On the next cup I kept the water temp at 205F between pours and it took 6 mins and was better tasting IMO.
@@bradhughes4494 I also did two brews with a non-switch regular V60. One exactly the same, except no pause with any switch closed between pours since no switch but let each pour fully draw down. I also did one today with a more normal 3-1 bloom and 2 pours with 1st pour to full draw down. The one done same as the Switch method took 5:12 as opposed to my Switch 5:33. Bloom time was shorter and no pause after pauses likely explain the 21 seconds faster brew, so pretty much equal. The two pour, full draw down on first was 4:17. No signs of clogging, all remained stream until end. I kept reheating/topping-off-heat between pours.
I’ve been playing with multi pass brews on the clever, I feel like this is better suited to it having the switch rather than the valve.. also probs less prone to clogging
not sure I've touched my regular v60 since I got a switch, and honestly I haven't really touched my espresso machine much as well. its just that good, and I'm not really even doing anything crazy with it. my standard brew has been 30g for 480-500 of water. 94C, short bloom with 1st steep of 2 minutes. draw down. 2nd half of the water in steep mode just to collect whatever grinds are stuck higher up on the filter, and immediate draw down.
Oh hey nice :D ordered a Hario Switch yesterday, can't wait to try it out. I have the Clever Dripper and have tried it a few times but i can never get a result i like for some reason. I think it's because of the water sitting under the filter that dillutes the brew overall, it just tastes weird and watery unfortunately. I'm hopping the Hario Switch won't have that issue since it's pretty much a V60 (my favorite brewing method) with a switch, i ordered some Filtropa filters for the Clever see if it changes it drastically but i don't have much expectations. Thanks for the recipe Sprometheus :D
I'm a year or so into using mine and have used all sorts of recipes, but strongly recommend Kono filters with any of them. They seem to be much less prone to clogging than Hario and mildly better than Cafec and have allowed me to push the grind very findefor high extraction immersion brews.
I’m curious to see how much brewing device experimentation continues as the world (hopefully) starts returning to normal. Being home every day caused me to switch from drip machine to alternating between 4 different single cup options (v60, clever, aeropress, and French press with v60 my clear favorite).
With reference to 4:6 method, I find this recipe really brings out the flavour of the bean. Not to mention that you can adjust the acidity, sweetness and strength with this recipe. 1:15, >90c, fine or medium (up to you) 1. Close valve and pour water to bloom. 2. At 30s, release valve and continue second pour at 45s 3. 1:30, third pour 4. 2:15, forth pour 5. 3:00 final pour If you brew using this hybrid method, you will get a balance cup of coffee, good clarity and body.
This seems super interesting to try. I have a ceramic Bonavita immersion dripper with the closable valve which should work for this. The Bonavita hole is quite small though so I'm guessing I would have to grind much coarser than you did for Switch.
I love my BonaVita ceramic immersion Dripper with shut off valve. It’s so good. Stays hot, doesn’t stain or crack. Makes great coffee every time. I suspect the Hario Switch is similar.
On a budget? Buy a replacement filter basket for a Technivorm KBT. The one with the closed/half open/full open switch. I use it like a Clever and I'm gonna try this recipe in it tomorrow morning. Sure, it drips a bit, and it's not as elegant, but it works. Filters are cheaper too
Not sure which country you are in, but Kurasu coffee in Japan and Levercraft coffee in the USA both have it in stock right now according to their websites.
@@Sprometheus Yep also i kinda prefer the 03 to do bigger cup but same taste profile ! Try it out its super easy to swap them. You just need to use the glass V60 because the others one wont fit. Personnaly using a 1:15 20g/300ml
There is very little of any contact with plastic, the cone is glass and the blocker is steel, it may touch some of the base on the way out of the cone, but not much at all.
Thanks Rob, and if you haven’t tried it I highly recommend. It definitely minimizes clogging and seems to brew a little cleaner in my opinion. My go to for immersion brewers.
IMHO the Swiss Army Knife of coffee brewing goes to Aeropress. Nevertheless, the multi-batch percolation and immersion is quite interesting. What's the sweet spot for the number of batches? Aim to cover grinds with enough water at every batch, or smaller the batch the better?
Yeah you’re probably right. I think the Aeropress may actually hold that title officially. By batches do you mean phases where water is added? If that’s the case I found batch size matters when it comes to how many passes and the times for the phases. Less coffee extracts more easily so lower than 18g I use three phases total, and ensure water at the very least is as high as the top of the coffee bed. Higher doses (over 20g) I’d use 5 phases, same thing with the amount of water you want it to completely cover. Let me know if that answered your questions.
Thank you my friend. And by V3 I assume you mean the Orea right? Are you looking for something that brews a bigger batch? The Orea Big Boy is a solid choice on that front.
@@Sprometheus You are MOST welcome. I meant the larger of the 2 sizes. If I’m going to brew via your process.. excellent, IMO…I’d like enough for the wife, who inhales coffee like…well, you know!!
Spro. Thank you for this! I used this method and just brewed the best cup I've ever had, using wider ratio due to light roast Ethiopian. I heard Gagne on an interview mention he uses a bloom + 4 pass method, that fresh water each round acts as a more capable solvent. Which is what you're doing here with 1+3. Appreciate all your efforts in helping us improve and have new approaches. Question: and this might be a dumb one ... for the bloom phase what's going on that we'd let it pour through and not steep? Does the bed need to be moist but not submerged for the C02 to escape ? Prior I was keeping the switch closed during bloom then draining it, didn't work well. Now truly doing pour over bloom but steeping the other phases and voila.
Hi mate, sure Spro will come soon to clarify in great detail but in the meantime, let me share with you my 5 cents on this: When the hot water first touch the grounds the acidic compounds are extracted very fast. Thus you shouldn't want this process to take very long, right? Has nothing to do with the CO2 as the gas will scape anyway. As you may know coffee extraction is an stratified process and we can't cheat it. Acids and oils are the fastest extracting components of coffee and these give the cup the acidic bite. Just after the acids come the sugars and other gentler, flavorful compounds and this is why we should want to focus more on this stage. So here's where the switch shines allowing us to steep and enhance extraction. But what's very interesting is that once the blooming yield leaves the dripper and flows to the cup or jar, the coffee bed is significantly less acidic than at the beginning of the brew and now more sugars and softer compounds can get extracted better. If you do multiple pours extraction will be significantly higher as fresh water extracts lot more than a partially saturated solution. Extraction increases with every pour. This was explained by WBC2017 Tetsu Kasuya and is the base of its propietary recipe 4:6 Kasuya San used a V60 and a coarse grind to achieve a high extraction while bringing a very delicate and light texture to the cup, because coarser grinds has less fines (if the grinder is of finest quality of course) and fines contribute a lot to the final Sweetness and bitterness
@@manuelpenaruiz3694 thank you for the thoughtful response! My question is more along why does the bloom need to be percolation and drained quickly… I.e. can a bloom happen within immersion?
@@RodneyClang sure you can steep the bloom. The advantage with this is to saturate the grounds evenly without creating channels. A uniform saturation will make the coffee more soluble and prepares it for extraction. Now, on the other hand, if you plan to steep the bloom, then you should want to use just the right amount of water to saturate all the grounds completely. If you use MORE water in this stage you'll get a much more acidic cup The reason why some baristas leave the valve open is to pull out the acids as quick as possible avoiding some reabsorption. Sure we can get nerdy with this but hope this helps
@@Sprometheus yes, it actually has 3 different flow restriction settings which gives it a leg up on the switch imo. But it’s a flat bottom, which I think is a drawback but others might prefer.
I have not had any choking problems when using my Switch, but I don't know why. Perhaps it's the filters? Indeed, if anything, my brews have been running too fast.
When you can have two clever drippers for the price of one switch it's a no brainer for me as you can basically do the same with the clever 🤷🏼♂️ even pour over
Disagree. The clever is not consistent in pourover due to its geometry. Clever excels only at immersion. Even if you do a pourover using the clever, you're most likely better off doing it with a v60. The switch is both a v60 and immersion, thus it is also a pourover device. So it makes sense that the switch costs more as it does both.
I agree with you. Although there is little to no pressure on it during use, it basically just pushes up a ball. It is the weak link in the whole device, and would be much better if it were made out of metal. Perhaps someone can 3d print them, as a cheap replacement should it fail. The glass is easily replaceable, but I am not sure Hario sells just the plastic switch part.
Fractional immersion brewing! All the benefits of percolation (high extraction, high clarity) with none of the issues (channelling, uneven extraction (under/over). This is something I've been working on for a little while but this brewer is really gonna simplify and enhance the process. I was all excited about zero-bypass drippers (tricolate, next level) but they're even more prone to the same issues. I think this is the one that's really gonna open up some cool possibilities.
@@Sprometheus I’ll keep my eyes peeled! I have the Tricolate and while it opens up some unique possibilities like really long ratios, it’s just not a joy to use. Next Level seems to solve some of those issues like filter placement and cleaning.
It may seem like it, but honestly, I clean it the same way I clean the Clever. Hot water and soap with it closed, let sit, then run hot water through both ends.
Interesting! I have a Clever but I may get one of these after your video, Spro. I really like that you can use any V60 papers with this. I dig the Cafec V60 papers and this adds to the appeal of the Switch.
Important question, do you keep your kettle on a "Hold" mode using your method? The temperature will drop down immediatly after you wait more then 1 minute with your kettle turned off.
I tried your recipe this morning and was blown away by how great the coffee was. Of all the Switch methods I’ve tried, this one has been the absolute best for me.
Thanks for giving it a go, and sharing your success! I appreciate that.
Finally the review is here! I've asked about this and have been waiting patiently.
It is my dripper of choice, after using most drippers in the market. I literally never take out any others since I've started using this, and never missed a single one. It does all without a significant compromise in either way.
Thank you so much for the review my man and a new recipe I can't wait to play with.
Happy to finally drop this one! It’s become one of my go-to drippers, the other is the April.
Glad I can give you a recipe to play around with. Would love to hear your thoughts on it after you give it a go!
I’ll definitely be trying this recipe. I love the Switch, mostly using it in steep-and-release mode (fine grind, short steep) but also as a stock V60. When using it for pour-over, I find it has the advantage that you can pre-heat the bejesus out of it by closing the switch and filling it with boiling water, making it better than any stock glass, metal or ceramic V60.
Would love to hear your thoughts on the recipe once you give it a try.
Interesting about the preheat, I honestly never even thought about that…haha
I do the preheat by closing the switch too .
@@Sprometheus I still preheat by placing it on my fellow stag kettle open with a filter and the kettles lid inside the funnel. Be careful of course because it does get hot.🙂
Absolutely agree, my other drippers just mostly sit on the shelves after I started using Switch. The brewing versatility and result consistency is just too hard to beat.
1:24 Think you meant to say it the other way around Sprometheus, it lifts the ball to allow the brew to pass through the Hario Switch, and it lowers it to block the hole where the brew would otherwise flow out of into the decanter of choice.
You may be right, doesn’t change anything though.
Just hoping to prevent mistakes for peeps who follows the video to a T, without taking a look at the manual. Could follow a recipe with the valve the wrong way. But definitely only a technicality. It definitely doesn't change much.
Thanks because I was curious about that. I have the Hario Largo tea dripper and was wondering why Hario reversed the stopping mechanism.
another hack you can do with this: take the hario mugen and put that in instead of the glass V60 it comes with (they both use the same mechanism to lock onto hario bases), now you have a low bypass plastic dripper that you controll the flow over. This type of brewing works exeptinally well with super low fine grinders, maybe you could use a C40 but I'd suggest a well aligned flat burr grinder with some clarity focused burrs
Chance upon this comment, guess what? I had the same idea and tried it out too. Was so pumped when the mugen fit into the base. Would be trying to get a ceramic mugen as I’m nit a fan of hot water and plastic interactions.
We need a bigger Mugen. The new switch and only one available is the 03. For me at least in "clever" mode the 02 version was just too small and wasteful considering price of filter
OK, I had to try it with the Clever Dripper. Using the recipe with an Ethiopian light roast, its wildly good. Better than anything I've gotten before from the Clever. It was a hassle, taking it on and off the mug, and I got confused a few times. But, until the Switch is in stock, Sprometheus, you have upped my game here.
Happy to hear that! I really have enjoyed this recipe and it’s most definitely doable on the Clever, but like you said it’s a hassle haha.
I was thinking that I would try this with the Clever Dripper. Your comment makes me even more excited to give it a try tomorrow morning.
I would agree that this is the last dripper you would ever need AND probably the best for most people.
The full immersion mode is absurdly easy and absurdly consistent when it comes to getting fantastic results.
It definitely tastes better than my clever dripper too.
It then gives you all these extra options such as your recipe here should you want to do more with it.
Absolutely. It can be just as difficult and just as easy as you want it to be.
Why do you think it tastes better than the Clever? Seems very similar.
@@rmanalan It just tastes better than the Clever although the difference is small.
I think the shape of the switch may give a more even extraction than the shape of the clever.
The clever also drains a bit faster although this depends on the filter paper as well.
Would be interesting to see this compared with aeropress being both perculation and immersion methods.
Dang my dude… every year it feel like we’re adding more steps to the v60… lol I’m still trying to find out the correct grind size for a 20/300g single serving😂
Haha just trying to keep you busy
@@Sprometheus lol, We’ll here’s 🍸 to the Sprometheus Method.. may it rein proud with the greats (rao and Hoffmann)!
Hey on a different topic, u once made a vid questioning the validity of the taste wheel and that rub some ppl the wrong way but was kinda valid.. what do u think about Dis-bunking the notion the need for an expensive electric grinder when a ($250-350) hand grinder may give u similar results for espresso. The niche is kind of best of both worlds (not too expensive and can compete with the really expensive electric grinders out there).. But can the comandante/kinu give similar results for espresso🤷🏽♂️
@@punitdave7034 thank you my friend I appreciate that.
When it comes to electronic vs hand I think the biggest component to that is ease and convenience, that’s really what you’re paying for more or less.
I definitely think there are hand grinders out there (more or less the top of the line ones) that can make espresso on par with electric grinders, I don’t think that’s really up for debate; it’s all about priorities.
Now I do have a Weber Key coming soon, and I think that one experiment worth looking into is how consistent rpms effect the outcome of the coffee produced. I feel like the jury is still out on that.
As someone who's struggled with the traditional v60 pour over I've found the Switch to be a great investment, it's far less fussy, especially if you don't own a $300+ grinder
Try 14 on the comandante. 1:15 is also my favoured ratio.
Great vid! Will have to try this recipe.
I do basically the opposite where I keep it closed during the bloom, and then open it as I start the main pour and keep it open for the rest of the brew like a regular V60. Looking forward to seeing how your recipe compares!
Thanks for watching, and if you have the chance let me know your thoughts on the recipe!
@@Sprometheus Finally got around to trying it and it came great! Very flavorful and a great mouth feel compared to my normal method. A little more effort involved but worth it indeed!
Flattered to see my video's thumbnail in yours! Will try your hybrid recipe. Got me thinking about running brewed coffee through a second time, which can totally be done without drips with the switch
Of course! Thanks for watching. I’ve toyed around with that on other drippers, with varying results haha.
Just in time. In this moment I wanted to go to make a coffee with my Switch. 😀
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the recipe!
Absolutely agree with your conclusion, the best device for beginners (me) and it grows with you as you start to experiment to find your perfect coffee experience. Depending on your mood and time it can serve you any way you want. The biggest win is that it is not really sensitive to grind size so even a $20 blade grinder is okay.
Time stamps? Time stamps!!!????
THANK YOU! This channel is getting better and better after each video
Haha well YT thinks the recipe I posted on the description is video timestamps, unfortunately they are not. But hopefully you still enjoy.
@@Sprometheus I know… i was kind of encouraging you to do so next time! I know it doesn’t help with the algorithm but god !! Do I appreciate good time stamps
Hi Sprometheus I have been using a switch for about 12 months.
My go to recipe is to close the valve for the bloom and followed by a traditional multi pour V60 with it open.
One big advantageI have found is being able to preheat really effectively by filling it with boiling water in the closed position. Because it is glass and has greater ability to store heat than plastic you can get it hot enough that it actually contributes to the temperature of the bloom. My current approach is to fill it with cold water and microwave it while my kettle is boiling (not the safest it you can pick it up by the silicone). My measurements using a fast kitchen thermometer show you can gain 5 to 7 degrees C over a traditional plastic v60.
This is a technique that's been used in the beer world for a long time. You do an infusion mash, then batch sparge to rinse the mash and collect the sugars. You'd be surprised how brewing beer can help you brew better coffee. Been thinking about a RIMS system for my French press...
Fun fact: In English, you brew both beer and coffee. In German, it is „brühen“ for coffee but „brauen“ for beer and at least I think of it as two completely different things 😂 „Brühen“ actually means to pour boiling water over something, while „brauen“ is exclusively used for making beer and describes the whole process.
Great vid as always! Your hybrid method makes me think it would be good for reducing the impacts of a bad pouring kettle or bad technique.
Thank you, and thanks for watching!
And absolutely, kettle control isn’t really a key to success here that’s for sure.
I like the recipe! It’s the best I’ve managed from my current beans vs other methods. Thx!
Glad to hear that, thanks for watching and letting me know! Cheers!
I absolutely love my Hario Switch. I really want to upgrade it to the 03 size but that one has been impossible to find at a reasonable price in my country ever since covid started
Hello, did you manage to get the 03 glass? I am having a hard time to decide whether to get the SSD 200 or the 360 version of the Switch. Where are you located if I may ask?
Excellent video. I didnt find much value in the second percolation you did. The first is important for the bloom, but after that, i believe the rest of the water can fully be added for an immersion. 15g coffee 250g water, medium coarse grind. Still, this video was excellent giving us a relatively simple recipe while driving home the amazing value of this brewer. Nice job!
I was gifted a Yama Silverton a while back and while mostly used it for regular pourover brews the flexibility is amazing, being able to close off to preheat and during the bloom.
It also has a not so common combination of a metal filter as well as a ceramic disk to clean up the fines which I've enjyoed not having to purchase extensive paper filters but still get clean brews.
Mostly use the 'April coffee' pourover technique of multiple 50g pours every 30s but will definitely have to try out this combination technique!
When in the rabbit hole - get a size 3 funnel as well and a metal filter just to add complexity - lily drip of cause.. still waiting for mine :-).. But really happy with my swift and all the new rabbit holes.
So many rabbit holes that’s for sure!
this video might've finally convinced me to get one of these!
I can’t recommend them enough. Really just a solid option for any occasion. The trick is snagging them when their in stock. Not as hard as a Niche, but still they go quick.
The actual switch would be little practical benefit for me. I use 30g of ground beans and 500ml of water and the Switch is just not big enough. The Clever Dripper is just large enough. In addition, I am a tiny person and when the Clever Dripper is on the counter it is the perfect height to pour the water & ground beans into. It gets uncomfortable when I have to pour & mix it If it is sitting over my 20 oz mug. I like the fact that the Switch is also a v60. Great for a beginners and v60 experimenters. Great Video.
Thank you for showcasing this recipe, i gave it a try and it gave me some amazingly sweet coffee! 🤤
My grandson is named Prometheus. I love your videos
I've never had a dripper that made it easier to brew excellent coffee all the time.
It’s definitely one of the best out there!
@@Sprometheus Thanks for sharing your recipe. tomorrow it will be tried. so far I've only ever used full immersion or standard v60.
Fantastic vid, I love immersion, this combo interests me!
I did this today. Great coffee. Very sweet. Also it had a strong aroma while my coffees never have noticeable aroma and its aroma was sweet too. Also, there was a sheen on top of poured coffee which I do not usually get. I assume all those factors points to a higher extraction than normal. I did a medium fine grin, yet it never stalled - it stayed a stream, never dripping, all the way to the end. I kept my kettle at 209F for all pours.
I am going to try the exact same but in a regular V60 tomorrow.
I think you're right and keeping the water at a consistently high temp between pours is key to avoid stalling. I've tried this technique a few times (which I really enjoy, thanks Sprometheus). Without keeping the water temp up I had one cup take 11mins - major stalling and slow drips. Surprisingly wasn't too bad but was just overly long IMO. On the next cup I kept the water temp at 205F between pours and it took 6 mins and was better tasting IMO.
@@bradhughes4494 I also did two brews with a non-switch regular V60. One exactly the same, except no pause with any switch closed between pours since no switch but let each pour fully draw down. I also did one today with a more normal 3-1 bloom and 2 pours with 1st pour to full draw down.
The one done same as the Switch method took 5:12 as opposed to my Switch 5:33. Bloom time was shorter and no pause after pauses likely explain the 21 seconds faster brew, so pretty much equal. The two pour, full draw down on first was 4:17. No signs of clogging, all remained stream until end. I kept reheating/topping-off-heat between pours.
I’ve been playing with multi pass brews on the clever, I feel like this is better suited to it having the switch rather than the valve.. also probs less prone to clogging
not sure I've touched my regular v60 since I got a switch, and honestly I haven't really touched my espresso machine much as well. its just that good, and I'm not really even doing anything crazy with it.
my standard brew has been 30g for 480-500 of water. 94C, short bloom with 1st steep of 2 minutes. draw down. 2nd half of the water in steep mode just to collect whatever grinds are stuck higher up on the filter, and immediate draw down.
Oh hey nice :D ordered a Hario Switch yesterday, can't wait to try it out. I have the Clever Dripper and have tried it a few times but i can never get a result i like for some reason. I think it's because of the water sitting under the filter that dillutes the brew overall, it just tastes weird and watery unfortunately. I'm hopping the Hario Switch won't have that issue since it's pretty much a V60 (my favorite brewing method) with a switch, i ordered some Filtropa filters for the Clever see if it changes it drastically but i don't have much expectations.
Thanks for the recipe Sprometheus :D
I'm a year or so into using mine and have used all sorts of recipes, but strongly recommend Kono filters with any of them. They seem to be much less prone to clogging than Hario and mildly better than Cafec and have allowed me to push the grind very findefor high extraction immersion brews.
Cant wait to try this recipe! Im about to place an order for a switch. Which size do you have and recommend? Thanks!
I’m curious to see how much brewing device experimentation continues as the world (hopefully) starts returning to normal. Being home every day caused me to switch from drip machine to alternating between 4 different single cup options (v60, clever, aeropress, and French press with v60 my clear favorite).
Time will tell, but I think there will always be a group of folks who want to take the brewing into their own hands.
With reference to 4:6 method, I find this recipe really brings out the flavour of the bean. Not to mention that you can adjust the acidity, sweetness and strength with this recipe.
1:15, >90c, fine or medium (up to you)
1. Close valve and pour water to bloom.
2. At 30s, release valve and continue second pour at 45s
3. 1:30, third pour
4. 2:15, forth pour
5. 3:00 final pour
If you brew using this hybrid method, you will get a balance cup of coffee, good clarity and body.
This seems super interesting to try. I have a ceramic Bonavita immersion dripper with the closable valve which should work for this. The Bonavita hole is quite small though so I'm guessing I would have to grind much coarser than you did for Switch.
I love my BonaVita ceramic immersion Dripper with shut off valve. It’s so good. Stays hot, doesn’t stain or crack. Makes great coffee every time. I suspect the Hario Switch is similar.
On a budget? Buy a replacement filter basket for a Technivorm KBT. The one with the closed/half open/full open switch. I use it like a Clever and I'm gonna try this recipe in it tomorrow morning. Sure, it drips a bit, and it's not as elegant, but it works. Filters are cheaper too
Tried your recipe. Great stuff, thank you for the share
Brewing 18 grams for a 270 gram Switch… is the 02 large enough? As always, great vid.
Where are people getting this product? It's still out of stock at all the online retailers i use.
I bought mine direct from Hario when a friend on Instagram posted that they were back in stock. They are definitely tricky to snag.
I posted this on another question, but according to their websites, its currently available from Kurasu and Levercraft coffee.
@@animeanytime ordered from levercraft and they say they've shipped. thanks!
Made me wanna pick one up right away but they're out of stock everywhere atm!
Yeah they are tough to snag! I got one out of sheer luck when a friend on Instagram posted they are back in stock.
Not sure which country you are in, but Kurasu coffee in Japan and Levercraft coffee in the USA both have it in stock right now according to their websites.
My switch is amazing however dropper it once and shattered the glass part. Hopefully, you can buy a V02 or V03 V60 and change the glass part.
That’s good to know! I haven’t dropped mine, but glad you can swap them out
@@Sprometheus Yep also i kinda prefer the 03 to do bigger cup but same taste profile ! Try it out its super easy to swap them. You just need to use the glass V60 because the others one wont fit. Personnaly using a 1:15 20g/300ml
i can NEVER watch this guy without thinking hes actually wade barnes with a secret coffee channel
Wondering if you tried ditching the bloom liquid and stopping the last draw down early to achieve similar results to your "top to tail" video
Hi there! What grind size should I use if I were to grind with a comandante?
What happens if I don’t measure the amount of coffee or water I use? Just kinda planned on eyeballing it
Excellent. Next purchase.
Does the switch have plastic in contact with water, or is it largely glass?
There is very little of any contact with plastic, the cone is glass and the blocker is steel, it may touch some of the base on the way out of the cone, but not much at all.
The lifter arm for the steel ball is plastic but very little area contact the coffee.
@@Sprometheus thank you, this might cement a buy for me!
Looks promising
It is indeed!
Have it and love it
Why did they use glass rather than a less heat sink like plastic?
Definitely better than the Steamdeck. Team Switch all the way.
It’s become a favorite of mine that’s for sure!
Another great vid. I like that this consolidates two drippers. But what sort of animal adds water THEN coffee?
Thanks Rob, and if you haven’t tried it I highly recommend. It definitely minimizes clogging and seems to brew a little cleaner in my opinion. My go to for immersion brewers.
@@Sprometheus Will do! Thanks for the tip.
I can't decide between the switch or the new released W60.
Quite happy with my chemex tho. But that's a different story.
Hi Spro, how would you approach an iced pour over ? That's all I drink. My recipe is 30g coffee 100g ice and 200g water
IMHO the Swiss Army Knife of coffee brewing goes to Aeropress. Nevertheless, the multi-batch percolation and immersion is quite interesting. What's the sweet spot for the number of batches? Aim to cover grinds with enough water at every batch, or smaller the batch the better?
Yeah you’re probably right. I think the Aeropress may actually hold that title officially.
By batches do you mean phases where water is added? If that’s the case I found batch size matters when it comes to how many passes and the times for the phases.
Less coffee extracts more easily so lower than 18g I use three phases total, and ensure water at the very least is as high as the top of the coffee bed.
Higher doses (over 20g) I’d use 5 phases, same thing with the amount of water you want it to completely cover.
Let me know if that answered your questions.
@@Sprometheus you saw through my poor choice of words. all of this makes sense. can't wait to do a comparison over the weekend!
@@gunayorbay all good! Glad I guessed right. Let me know how it goes!
Do you think using the melodrip for the pours after the bloom would work?
Can you put the clever dripper on the cup and use it as a v60?
This smells an awful lot like a birthday present for macehead10.
So sold on this.
It’s worth it. In my humble opinion.
@@Sprometheus Update: macehead10 just had a birthday. macehead10 now owns a Switch. macehead10 drink yummy coffee
Freaking love this thing
just in case i miss something, why you don't "immerse" the bloom?
Do you always drink your bloom water? I am new to pourover kindof just seeing what people do.
Are you using the 02 model or the 03 in this video? Never having them I'm clueless.
Hi.. i have the budget to buy either switch or aeropress... which one should i buy first? thanks in advance
Added a swirl. That's MY move! :)
great info.. what temp water you use ?higher or lower than normal ? thanks
Personally I usually brew pretty light roasts so I just pour straight off boil.
Surely the ball when it's raised would allow fluid to pass through, not the other way around??
It's the other way around
How does it compare to the Gina brewer?
I was thinking to buy one, but Hario only uses glass for the Switch.
Spro… nice vid. Does one need the V3 to brew maybe 500mg of finished brew? Thanks.
Thank you my friend. And by V3 I assume you mean the Orea right? Are you looking for something that brews a bigger batch? The Orea Big Boy is a solid choice on that front.
@@Sprometheus You are MOST welcome. I meant the larger of the 2 sizes. If I’m going to brew via your process.. excellent, IMO…I’d like enough for the wife, who inhales coffee like…well, you know!!
Hi, changing from V60 to this, do I grind coarser or remain the same size?
really want to try this recipe out. Anyone knows what grind setting for fellow ode on this one? range or smth
If I break my V60 I would buy one of these, but it’s not something I can justify getting. I already have so many coffee gadgets 😵💫
Been wanting a switch for a while but they are never in stock.
I prefer the clever simply because the clever takes Melitta filters
Are you using an 02 or an 03 switch for this method?
Spro. Thank you for this! I used this method and just brewed the best cup I've ever had, using wider ratio due to light roast Ethiopian. I heard Gagne on an interview mention he uses a bloom + 4 pass method, that fresh water each round acts as a more capable solvent. Which is what you're doing here with 1+3. Appreciate all your efforts in helping us improve and have new approaches. Question: and this might be a dumb one ... for the bloom phase what's going on that we'd let it pour through and not steep? Does the bed need to be moist but not submerged for the C02 to escape ? Prior I was keeping the switch closed during bloom then draining it, didn't work well. Now truly doing pour over bloom but steeping the other phases and voila.
Hi mate, sure Spro will come soon to clarify in great detail but in the meantime, let me share with you my 5 cents on this:
When the hot water first touch the grounds the acidic compounds are extracted very fast. Thus you shouldn't want this process to take very long, right? Has nothing to do with the CO2 as the gas will scape anyway.
As you may know coffee extraction is an stratified process and we can't cheat it. Acids and oils are the fastest extracting components of coffee and these give the cup the acidic bite. Just after the acids come the sugars and other gentler, flavorful compounds and this is why we should want to focus more on this stage. So here's where the switch shines allowing us to steep and enhance extraction. But what's very interesting is that once the blooming yield leaves the dripper and flows to the cup or jar, the coffee bed is significantly less acidic than at the beginning of the brew and now more sugars and softer compounds can get extracted better.
If you do multiple pours extraction will be significantly higher as fresh water extracts lot more than a partially saturated solution. Extraction increases with every pour. This was explained by WBC2017 Tetsu Kasuya and is the base of its propietary recipe 4:6
Kasuya San used a V60 and a coarse grind to achieve a high extraction while bringing a very delicate and light texture to the cup, because coarser grinds has less fines (if the grinder is of finest quality of course) and fines contribute a lot to the final Sweetness and bitterness
@@manuelpenaruiz3694 thank you for the thoughtful response! My question is more along why does the bloom need to be percolation and drained quickly… I.e. can a bloom happen within immersion?
@@RodneyClang sure you can steep the bloom. The advantage with this is to saturate the grounds evenly without creating channels. A uniform saturation will make the coffee more soluble and prepares it for extraction. Now, on the other hand, if you plan to steep the bloom, then you should want to use just the right amount of water to saturate all the grounds completely. If you use MORE water in this stage you'll get a much more acidic cup
The reason why some baristas leave the valve open is to pull out the acids as quick as possible avoiding some reabsorption. Sure we can get nerdy with this but hope this helps
@@manuelpenaruiz3694 this is very helpful thank you very much!
@@RodneyClang anytime!
C'mon, weird! We see you! 🤪
I need another brewing device like I need a 2nd Sphincter!😏
I tell myself this everyday, and it doesn't work...
I like blue
Frick! I just got a clever recently😂
Are these sold in the US? Don't seem them on Amazon.
Yes. They are sold by Hario USA and Levercraft coffee.
Super late to comment, but they are now being sold on Amazon fyi
Switch vs December dripper?
I haven’t had a chance to try out the December. Does it have a similar function?
@@Sprometheus yes, it actually has 3 different flow restriction settings which gives it a leg up on the switch imo. But it’s a flat bottom, which I think is a drawback but others might prefer.
@@drewdecuir5675 interesting. I’ll look into it for sure!
Thanks for bringing the December dripper to my attention. Would be interested in trying it out, even further down the rabbit hole.
Anyone compare this method to aeropress? Seems to me you might get similar results.
Does it choke like the Clever Dripper when using coffee first then water?
I don’t have that problem when I use Cafec Abaca filters with it (even with Ethiopian coffees).
@@animeanytime thanks, you are talking about the Switch right?
I have not had any choking problems when using my Switch, but I don't know why. Perhaps it's the filters? Indeed, if anything, my brews have been running too fast.
Am I the only one who thinks upside down aeropress recipes work better in this? less messy too. Instead of pressing, just turn on the switch.
When you can have two clever drippers for the price of one switch it's a no brainer for me as you can basically do the same with the clever 🤷🏼♂️ even pour over
Disagree. The clever is not consistent in pourover due to its geometry. Clever excels only at immersion. Even if you do a pourover using the clever, you're most likely better off doing it with a v60. The switch is both a v60 and immersion, thus it is also a pourover device. So it makes sense that the switch costs more as it does both.
my boi!
Well, with Clever you can do basically the same - just need to take it on-off the mug instead of switching that lever.
That plastic switch seems to be the weak point of that design and could be prone to breaking from consistent use
I agree with you. Although there is little to no pressure on it during use, it basically just pushes up a ball.
It is the weak link in the whole device, and would be much better if it were made out of metal.
Perhaps someone can 3d print them, as a cheap replacement should it fail.
The glass is easily replaceable, but I am not sure Hario sells just the plastic switch part.
gah all these videos always end up costing me money
Haha, yeah well I’ve good and bad news. The Hario Switch is often sold out or on back order, so it’ll give you a little time.
just ridiculous ... stop that tea stuff ... its totally irrelevant for real coffee lovers...
Well I’ll just let you start your own successful UA-cam channel for “real coffee lovers”, wishing you the best of luck.
Am i the only one that just found out we can use the Hario Switch as a V60?!
The Hario switch is out of stock. Someday I’ll get to try it out.
Fractional immersion brewing! All the benefits of percolation (high extraction, high clarity) with none of the issues (channelling, uneven extraction (under/over). This is something I've been working on for a little while but this brewer is really gonna simplify and enhance the process. I was all excited about zero-bypass drippers (tricolate, next level) but they're even more prone to the same issues. I think this is the one that's really gonna open up some cool possibilities.
Absolutely! I have a Next Level and plan on putting out a video on it in the near future, but this Switch does really get the best of both worlds.
@@Sprometheus I’ll keep my eyes peeled! I have the Tricolate and while it opens up some unique possibilities like really long ratios, it’s just not a joy to use. Next Level seems to solve some of those issues like filter placement and cleaning.
Nope, when the ball falls down it blocks the flow and not the other way around.
Seems like it might be a pain to clean though
It may seem like it, but honestly, I clean it the same way I clean the Clever. Hot water and soap with it closed, let sit, then run hot water through both ends.
Most of it is dishwasher safe (not the stainless steel ball or plastic switch) and it comes apart easily. So I find it actually really easy to clean.
Interesting! I have a Clever but I may get one of these after your video, Spro. I really like that you can use any V60 papers with this. I dig the Cafec V60 papers and this adds to the appeal of the Switch.
The coffee filter is why I would choose the Switch over the Clever..
Important question, do you keep your kettle on a "Hold" mode using your method? The temperature will drop down immediatly after you wait more then 1 minute with your kettle turned off.