Deep Sky Astrophotography Setup For Sky-Watcher Az GTI

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  • @anthonywarwick6090
    @anthonywarwick6090 2 роки тому +2

    Now I wish I saw this earlier. I have the Azi GTE go-to mount that was packaged with 102Mak. I read an earlier review by you on the SWED50…so bought that and the SW flattener as an entry to deep space astrophotography…but I have a Nikon DLSR… the saw other material you wrote and realised it was not going to work with DLSR…went out and got a SWED80 and EQ3.5 Pro, Asiair plus, FF, and Zwo guidescope but the set up described by others as “light” is by no means portable and getting out of a standard doorway is even a chore. This video has inspired me to go back to the Azi GTE and put together a similar light weight set up I can use. I will use the larger set up but need to get it out into the garage so it can be mobilised directly to the driveway..great video thanks

  • @jeffkelly4329
    @jeffkelly4329 2 роки тому +2

    I just got the leveling base - WOW - I can level in 5 seconds! Thanks for the recommendation.

  • @anthonywarwick6090
    @anthonywarwick6090 2 роки тому +1

    That is very affordable set up compared to going out and getting full on Motorised EQ of larger payload. This kind of video is great for us newbies and beginners and I live how you show us how you have put it all together as this is not always clear to us novices unfamiliar with the gear.

  • @johnkulczycki3021
    @johnkulczycki3021 3 роки тому +7

    Could you include a list of components for building up this setup? It would be helpful. Thanks.

  • @keithhepher7254
    @keithhepher7254 3 роки тому +1

    Just bought tha Az GTI mount so this has been great help as always Andrea thanks

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  3 роки тому

      Glad it helped

    • @keithhepher7254
      @keithhepher7254 3 роки тому +1

      @@andreaminoia2002 I have also bought a star adventurer pro so looking forward to watching your other videos ( waiting on a evoguide 50ed as well, so on my way. 🤣🤣 )

  • @paulmckeown5672
    @paulmckeown5672 3 роки тому +2

    Great video, this is what I'm trying to do as well for a portable eq mount (well light and small enough to go in the back of the car). Keep doing the videos!

  • @claudioabeche8578
    @claudioabeche8578 Рік тому +1

    Excellent video! Thank you

  • @michaeledmonds3027
    @michaeledmonds3027 Рік тому

    Thanks so much for your video. I too would like a list of components you used. Especially the connection made for the guide scope, please. Thanks, Michael

  • @monsyschuller3561
    @monsyschuller3561 2 роки тому +1

    Exactly the video in needed!!! :D Coming from an almost equal setup - only with an SkyGuider Pro, but I really miss the Goto ability of my AVX mount - but prefer the portability! Thank you for taking the time to show how to use the Az GTI with the William Optics base and the ASIAIR! Best regards from germany!

  • @michaelclancy7874
    @michaelclancy7874 2 роки тому +1

    I do not understand something about polar alignment. I have the same mount. When you connect there is an alignment procedure ( 1,2,3 stars) and after that there are menu options to go to say Polaris. You do that . Point and track. Why isnt there software that you can just click on " polar align" and let the scope/ software just do it? I have Sky Safari also. Whats the difficulty in programming this when the scope knows where it is via GPS.? Point it North, level and go. Also, I run into issues depending on what side of the mount I punt the scope on. Why does it matter.. Thank you in advance. Mike

  • @UV-NIR-Thermal
    @UV-NIR-Thermal 3 роки тому +2

    Pretty cool, I might just go that route some day. Still using the Star Adventurer V.1, threw my Skymax 127 on it, and Jupiter stayed in view for an hour un guided. I wonder if that Az GTI is a better option. Also, thanks for all your tutorials in this Astro journey, helped quite a bit.

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  3 роки тому +1

      Hi, the az-gti is surely easier for moon and planetary images: level the tripod, frame the target (or go-to to it after executing a star alignment) and then use point and track to follow it. No need to polar align. this is particularly great to cut down setup time for a quick photo/observation session or if you cannot see Polaris. Jupiter is fairly small even with a skymax127, so no need to guide to keep planets in the fov of the instrument. but the Moon is trickier. this not to say you need to change, if the SA works for you :)

  • @andyleather3014
    @andyleather3014 2 роки тому +1

    good video thanks

  • @ScottDavies
    @ScottDavies 3 роки тому +4

    Great video 👌 one question! When you set your latitude on the wedge do you subtract your latitude from 90 degrees?
    For example, I live at 59,51 degrees north and was wondering if I should set the wedge to 90-59,51 = 30,49. Is that wrong or right?

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  3 роки тому +4

      Thanks. Yes, you are correct. Those wedges are made for things like the star adventurer and the ioptron. But with the az-gti (and the Omegon minitrack lx2/lx3) the mount is on the opposite side. I am at 51 deg north and I would set my wedge to 39-ish degrees (90-51). In reality though I look at Polaris and aim at it by eye and then use the asiair routine to PA.

    • @ScottDavies
      @ScottDavies 3 роки тому +2

      @@andreaminoia2002 superb! Thanks Andrea 👍 Now to buy a az gti 😃 Keep the videos coming 👏

  • @karot666
    @karot666 3 роки тому +2

    ciao Andrea potresti dirmi che tipo e che marca di base livellante stai usando nell video? grazie mille e complimenti per il video, molto interessante

  • @christianadelatour850
    @christianadelatour850 3 роки тому

    Hello from the Bronx New York Thank so much for the Pro Tips. I always learn something from….I have the same. Set up as you. Well almost….
    What is the name of the bottom of your Astrokracken Mount …. Mines is a Solid foot … is there a reason why u have your style ?
    I like your power tank !!! Where did u get that one.
    When I use the AzGTI in Alt Az mode I also use a double L bracket from Teleskope with counter weights …it allows me to mount my 11 x 70 Binoculars ,Mak127 , AT 72 ED ii and the EvoGuide /Astokracken Setup on Top of the AZ GTI instead of the side…. I had to do this also because I got the 2” version of the Mak 127 …. The finderscope was in a weird position if mounted on the side…. The Mak with the AzGTI kit that Skywatcher sells comes with the 1.25 version and that has the finderscope in the correct position…
    Where did u get the blue taller vixen plate for the AZ GTI ?
    If u can AM for next video can u go thru the SynScan App ( point and track, the different alignments )
    Also wanted to know how can u track the Sun/Moon when it’s below the Horizon …. I want to image Sun up and Moon rise as they come up from the horizon ….Sending Positive vibes

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  3 роки тому

      wow, so many questions :)
      1) I am not sure at which part are you referring too as "the bottom of the astrokraken mount": is a classic dovetail bar, if you are talking about the part where the rings are screwed on.
      2) The PowerTank is a Bresser Portable Power Station 100W and I got it from astroshop.eu (www.astroshop.eu/battery-packs/bresser-mobile-power-station-100-watt/p,63756)
      3) the blue, taller, vixen plate is this one www.astroshop.eu/accessories/artesky-polsucher-halterung-fuer-skywatcher-az-gti-montierung/p,62729
      4) I don't use the synscan app that much: don't expect a video about it shortly, sorry :)
      5) I think you could use an app like Stellarium or SkyGuide or sky safari to see where the Moon/Sun will pop over the horizon (and you can tell from the glow) and point your equipment on that direction. Though, it may be challenging with very long instruments giving a narrow field of view.

  • @DLMVegas
    @DLMVegas Рік тому

    My experience with the Advernturer GTI mount was awful. By the time I found 1-3 stars I could have been shooting the object I came out to shoot. Even selecting Jupiter as an object the mount went to Jupiter and kept on going past it . I called Sky-Watcher and was told that the goto trackers are stupid and you have to tell them where the objects are. Needless to say I sent it back. I was getting interested in this little unit but after further research I'll stay with my Adventurer 2i.

    • @kecimalah
      @kecimalah Рік тому

      If you connect it to computer and use for example NINA it can automaticaly align with platesolving. Then is no need for manualy poiting it to stars and it is more precise.

  • @DrNat1
    @DrNat1 3 роки тому

    Would love to see some progress pictures/vid with this setup 👍🏼👍🏼

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  3 роки тому

      What you mean with progress pictures? The photo shown at the beginning of the video are taken with that setup

    • @DrNat1
      @DrNat1 3 роки тому +1

      @@andreaminoia2002 I mean with more pictures and maybe a vid of you using it in the field, I’m thinking of getting the Az GTI but with a eq wedge, never mind if not, I’ll never darken your channel again, good day to you sir 👍🏼

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  3 роки тому +1

      @@DrNat1 no no not a problem. I didn't understand what you meant. Yes I will do such video, as soon as these cloudy period will end.

  • @1clancym
    @1clancym 2 роки тому +1

    Can you use Stellarium to operate a Skywatcher GTI from a andriod cell phone? I have Sync Scan pro but Stellarium does not connect. Thx Mike

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  2 роки тому

      Hi. Stellarium PLUS can do it. But you need the SynScan app too installed. This DOES NOT work for iOS though. The only other way to control the az-gti with an iOS device is using SkySafari plus

    • @1clancym
      @1clancym 2 роки тому +1

      @@andreaminoia2002 I just realized the difference. I was using sync scan pro, and when I replaced it with just sync scan, it works. Thx Mike

  • @keithhepher7254
    @keithhepher7254 3 роки тому +2

    HI Andrea may I ask what dovetail you used on your Astrokraken bracket ?

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  3 роки тому

      Hi. I use this one www.astromarket.org/zwaluwstaarten-klemmen/omegon-180mm-zwaluwstaart-met-schroef/p,43766?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-qaP__vm8QIVzgWiAx2PIgowEAwYAyABEgKiwfD_BwE&

    • @keithhepher7254
      @keithhepher7254 3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Andrea

  • @ellandra4407
    @ellandra4407 3 роки тому +1

    Great video. Do we need to upgrade the AZ GTi firmware into EQ mode or no need to change the firmware since we use the ASIair as the controller?

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  3 роки тому +1

      You need to upgrade the firmware as the mount needs to know how to track in equatorial mode. I have just recently wrote about this on my blog www.astropills.com/blog/how-to-update-your-sky-watcher-az-gti-firmware

  • @fernandoapausa4931
    @fernandoapausa4931 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Andrea, nice setup. I’m also about to start using the AZ-GTi on eq mode and I have two questions for you. Do you also use successfully the C5 on this mount? With 0,63x focal reducer is still close to 800mm focal length and I wonder if you can guide long enough with this small mount. Second question is how do you polar align the mount without the polar scope. Does the Eq mode software include some polar align routine that does not require to se a polar scope? Thanks for you video and advice.

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  3 роки тому +1

      Hi, indeed. with SCT telescopes the amount of focal reduced depends on the position of the mirror for your optical train. If I use the declared 105mm backfocus from the back of the reducer, I am more to 900mm than 800. but I can guide it fine with the little ZWO mini guide scope 30 F4 and asi224mc for as long as 3 minutes. In the video I showed images of galaxies all taken with the C5 guided on the az-gti. as I was in the city I didn't go past 60" per sub, I believe. no point to go further there. For the use in equatorial mode, I don't use the synscan app: I control everything with the first generation of ASIAir and I use the built in routine to PA. But I also used the polar scope fo the HEQ5 with the adapter included in the artesky base for AZ-GTI. www.astroshop.eu/accessories/artesky-polsucher-halterung-fuer-skywatcher-az-gti-montierung/p,62729
      But I believe the synscan too as a built in polar alignment routine.

    • @fernandoapausa4931
      @fernandoapausa4931 3 роки тому

      Hi Andrea, thanks for the response. Interesting adapter that of Artesky.. regarding the C5 focal length do you mean that the Celestron 0.63x focal reducer produces actually less reduction factor when backfocus to the camara sensor is set to 105mm? Because my math was 1250mm X 0.63 = 788mm

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  3 роки тому +1

      The back focus for the reducer is not the issue and you should stick to it, particularly if you use a large sensor camera, as it is the distance for the best performances. the problem is the SCT telescope: its actual focal length depends by the actual position of the primary mirror inside the tube, when you focus on stars with a given optical train. is never exactly 1250mm. it is probably longer most of the time. and the presence of the reducer do affect the position of the mirror. here is a calculator to give you an idea, but yeah, is all a bit random. www.wilmslowastro.com/software/formulae.htm#FR_b
      I am always about f/7.1-7.5 in my setup

    • @fernandoapausa4931
      @fernandoapausa4931 3 роки тому +1

      Aha! That’s why plate solving applications didn’t recognize the FL I was declaring!! You made me learn something I didn’t know, and I have 2 STCs.. thanks Andrea!

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  3 роки тому +1

      @@fernandoapausa4931 yeah... stick to the value you get from plate solving. with asiair you may need to put "0" as the focal length for the scope, to force the program to come up with the true value. if I use the nominal value. plate solving often fails :(

  • @andyleather3014
    @andyleather3014 2 роки тому +1

    what is the ring set up you have used so u can mount the guide scope

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  2 роки тому

      For the samyang 135 is the William optics ring from the Redcat plus handle. For the evoguide 50ed 3d printed brackets from astrokraken.fr

  • @paoloangeletti1937
    @paoloangeletti1937 2 роки тому

    Salve Andrea,
    è una buona soluzione senza spendere troppo in setup più impegnativi.
    Si potrebbe aggiungere un focheggiatore zwo e magari fare autoguida usandolo come rifrattore principale un piccolo Sharpstar 61mm? Il peso sarebbe sopportabile dalla montatura? Grazie e buon lavoro!

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  2 роки тому

      Saluti :) il peso è ok. Va bilanciato bene ma non penso sia un problema.

  • @myterrain
    @myterrain 2 роки тому

    Hello again Andrea:
    Di you need to set the EQ mode in the Syncscsn app before ASIAIR connection? I've found that when I do with a reasonable alignment the gotos are near perfect. If I don't then the pointing is more or less random. I use the AzGTI//syncing mount selection. I have read that it should be EQMOD but I have not tried that. Guiding is flawless when I set the mode first. Just curious because I would like to eliminate the Syncscan app from the equation.

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  2 роки тому +1

      Hi. There is nothing to do with the synscan app when you use the asiair with the cable. if you control the mount in wifi, you need to set some data on the synscan app once for all, but other than that, I go straight to the asiair app. What I found helpful was to turn on the mount after I connect to the asiair network and have the asiair app running

    • @myterrain
      @myterrain 2 роки тому

      @@andreaminoia2002
      Thanks Andrea, I'll try turning the mount on after starting the ASIAIR.

  • @claytonostler
    @claytonostler 3 роки тому

    Great video, I just created a portable setup very similar. Any tips on polar alignment? I struggle to to this aligned right

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  2 роки тому

      I use the asiair. There is a good thread on aligning the mount with the SynScan app on cloudy nights forum www.cloudynights.com/topic/658474-skywatcher-synscanaz-gti-alignment-instructions/

  • @michaelfeng1716
    @michaelfeng1716 3 роки тому

    Hi Andrea, is it possible to polar align the SW star adventurer with a rotated reticle in the Southern Hemisphere? I saw a video on UA-cam showing how to do it in the northern hemisphere but couldn’t find any information about doing it in the south. Thanks! Keep up the videos!

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  3 роки тому

      Hi. Unfortunately I don't know the answer. Sorry

    • @michaelfeng1716
      @michaelfeng1716 3 роки тому +1

      @@andreaminoia2002 ok, I will ask around, thank you nonetheless, keep up the great videos!

  • @sandaruwanmilan9535
    @sandaruwanmilan9535 Рік тому

    Thanks... can i use this AZ gti mount for celestron powerseeker 114EQ telescope ?

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  Рік тому +1

      I think in alt/az mode should be no problem, although it will probably shake a lot while focusing.

  • @astroinfinland6680
    @astroinfinland6680 2 роки тому

    I'm planning on getting this mount, but I've heard it has a lot of backlash and that the guiding can go well over 5 arc second. I was wondering that should I fine tune it or just leave it like that.
    Thx in advance!

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  Рік тому

      Quality control vary a lot. But is not difficult to obtain sun 1 arc sec guiding errors with good balancing and some tuning.

  • @christianadelatour850
    @christianadelatour850 3 роки тому +1

    AM can you show us how you use the AzGTI in Alt Az mode?

  • @myterrain
    @myterrain 2 роки тому

    Great video and thanks for doing it. I have setup my Az-Gti on the WO lattitude base with the same dovetail. My question to you is do you find the latitude settings to still be correct with the angle the Az-Gti sits on the base? My latitude is 32 degrees and set to that on the base, however if I check the angle of the mount its 38 or more degrees. If I am correct the RA axis should be aligned to polaris more or less. So what I'm asking is are the gradients on the latitude base still accurate with the Az-GTI mounted? Have not been able to test my setup due to weather.

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  2 роки тому

      The scale on the wo should be 90-your latitude, so 58 deg,as the az-gti sits in the opposite way with respect,say, to the star adventurer

    • @myterrain
      @myterrain 2 роки тому +1

      @@andreaminoia2002
      Thank you very much for the information.

  • @bobbeanbags
    @bobbeanbags 3 роки тому

    Thanks! You have a new subscriber! If you use the sky watcher counterweight kit do you still need a thread adapter? I just ordered the az-gti and counterweight kit. I was hoping to use an extra iOptron skyguider pro wedge I have left over from a skyguider pro setup I sold. Any idea if this would work?

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  3 роки тому

      Hi. You still need an adapter from metric m8 to metric m12 for using the star adventurer counterweight kit. As the per wedge, you may need to replace the locking know with a smaller one or handle to allow for the RA rotation of the az-gti. Sorry for the late answer, I am in holidays. And thank you for subscribing

  • @marvinwhisman3333
    @marvinwhisman3333 3 роки тому

    I have been attempting to figure out what leveling plate you used. Does anyone know the model he used or one that will work with the Skywatch tripod/AZ-GTi mount. Thanks for any assistance. Very nice video that is very helpful in the setup.

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  3 роки тому +1

      Hi. Thanks. I use a leofoto lb-75 www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1576484-REG/leofoto_lb_75_75mm_leveling_base_with.html

  • @matheusmartignago3824
    @matheusmartignago3824 3 роки тому

    Very Nice vídeo. Congrats !!! Where can I find the leveling base, Aliexpress ??

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  3 роки тому

      Hi. I think you can find it on Ali express, Amazon etc. Is quite common (at least here in Europe)

  • @fatemahals2885
    @fatemahals2885 2 роки тому

    Hello sir. Thanks for the video. I have a question if don’t mind. I am using the same equipment with stellarmate and QHY Mono pointing it at polaris from the rooftop. What can be wrong that when I choose the target it goes to the wrong direction/ or let say the opposite the direction? I’m putting the latitude at 60 degree. I live between 26-30 degree. Any suggestion? Thank you.

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  2 роки тому

      I don't know. What I do with the asiair is I connect everything, power up the asiair and then power up the mount. Also I power the mount with the scope pointing due north, counterweight pointing down. Hope it helps

    • @davestephens9463
      @davestephens9463 2 роки тому

      Turn your camera around 180.00 on the dovetail

  • @luisbarbosa8773
    @luisbarbosa8773 Рік тому

    What is that black telescope next to the case celestron case?

  • @Oxizee
    @Oxizee 2 роки тому

    If you power the AZ GTI Through DC cable, do you need to remove the batteries?

  • @alexhee959
    @alexhee959 2 роки тому

    Is this blue latitude base from ali express? Thanks!

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  2 роки тому +1

      it is from artesky, but probably is the same you find on Ali express

  • @heklik
    @heklik 5 місяців тому

    What if I just use the az GTi stock, can it not take astrophotography ?

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  5 місяців тому

      Well you can take planetary/lunar/solar images but for deep sky astrophotography you need to upgrade to the equatorial dual arm firmware from skywatcher to let the mount work also in equatorial mode. At best you need a latitude base. Polar alignment can be done via the SynScan app as well as goto

    • @heklik
      @heklik 4 місяці тому

      @@andreaminoia2002would a cg4 motorized EQ mount better in taking image's than a stock azgti ?

  • @andredellavolpe
    @andredellavolpe 3 роки тому

    Hi I really like your videos and every time I go to buy something new I visit your channel to see if there is any information about you. I have a 10" Meade LX200 GPS, super heavy, and not very good for deep space objects (even with the equatorial wedge). I'm thinking of buying this Sky-Watcher Az GTI with an eq3d skywatcher mount and a Sky-Rover apochromatic telescope - 72mm f/6ed with 0.8 Flat Flattener (I already have an ASI294MC-PRO camera and an ASI174Mini as a guide.) In your opinion of anyone who knows astrophotography, is it a worthwhile expense to have good DSO images? Thank you very much for your attention.

    • @andreaminoia2002
      @andreaminoia2002  3 роки тому +1

      Hi. Thanks. I don't understand what you mean about using the az-gti with eq3d mount. Anyway, I think the az-gti will do well, and better with something like the asiair to control it

    • @andredellavolpe
      @andredellavolpe 3 роки тому +1

      @@andreaminoia2002 Thanks for the feedback. Ignore the EQ3 mount part: I was just about to buy this mount and was going to use it to put the AZ GTI. Instead, I bought a reinforced tripod from Celestron, the Az GT, and Sky Watcher's own latitude adjustment pedestal. I hope I can make good images with this setup.

  • @szaki
    @szaki 2 роки тому

    JWT takes better photos for only $10 billion more!
    😎

  • @C1sc0M4n
    @C1sc0M4n 3 роки тому +1

    Do you mean RJ11 connector, and not RJ12?