The Origin Of The Dragons In Tears Of The Kingdom | Theory
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Where are the dragons from in the Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom?
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When you talk to the Statues at the shrines of power courage and wisdom It states that The dragons are female.
Explain the third eye (ancient hero also didnt have one)
@@kwabenaadjei7303great flameblade, it was a botw clip
@@kwabenaadjei7303 Its from breathe of the wild.
If you look at their ears, Naydra, Dinraal, and Farosh all have floppy, oblong ears; kind of like the Zonai. Zelda's dragon ears are stiff, triangular, and pointed, like a Hylian's.
What would a draconified rito, zora, goron or gerudo look like then?🤔
@@vemijoevfind part of that out in the game’s ending
@@giu0014 Spoiler:
Yeah I know about Ganondorfs dragon, but he is 1: the demon king, 2: A male Gerudo. I mean what would a more ordinary Gerudo like riju look like as a dragon
@@vemijoevmaybe the answer are the “faces” of the divine beasts
@@Fiorebunnythat would be so cool
Let's not forget the three outfits that are said to have been the outfits of Zonai preistesses, each of which resembles one of the three dragons.
Which outfits do you exactly mean?
@@merveillieux the outfits that raise your attack power based on weather conditions
@@roaringthunder8069 As I’ve seen, your attack power doesn’t raise, you just gain an elemental attack (that consumes 1 durability point btw)
They add an elemental effect to the last hit of your attack chain or charged attacks when the weather matches. Although that's when wearing a a single piece.
@@PogiLighthouse man, link can really rock female clothing then
My guess is that they're Zonai priests assigned to the sacred springs. This is because their Compendium entries refer to the three dragons as guarding their respective springs, and Zelda coming to our aid during the final battle suggests that even if they lose everything else about them, they seem to at least recall the purpose for why changed in the first place.
They were definitely like rarus wife, and had inner powers. Those powers are what dictate the type of dragon you’ll be, as Zelda, having light powers, became a light dragon.
Zelda as the light dragon also retained her purpose. When you attempt to take The Master Sword from the light dragon the dragon will attempt to buck you off.
Zelda's purpose of protecting The Master Sword remained within her through the dragonification.
She however didn't have enough awareness to recognize Link or she wouldn't fight him. She would simply release the sword for him willingly.
The purpose was probably something like "protect The Master Sword" and that's all.
@@boomer150 how do you explain the dragon boss battle wear dragon Zelda comes to links aid?
@@TheLitman72I think that's because she was helping him defeat the demon dragon And she knew that the demon dragon had to be destroyed.
@@TheLitman72 it’s probably moreso that Zelda’s purpose was to “Protect hyrule” and she probably forgot about the sword implanted in her head. So trying to buck link off was probably just animalistic instinct bc he was hurting her. The reason why I think as a dragon her purpose was to protect hyrule was bc she’s the only dragon out of all four of them to fly over ALL of hyrule instead of one designated area. (She’s also the only dragon that doesn’t fly down into the depths, which adds to my theory that she’s patrolling the skies to protect her kingdom) I think if it was just about the sword she would’ve stayed around the temple of time or hyrule castle instead of patrolling the entire kingdom. So that would explain why she came to links aid, she spotted the one dragon that was causing harm to the land and came to destroy it, that’s why she was released from it after Ganon’s dragon was defeated, bc she had fulfilled her purpose and could remember herself again. But thats just a theory lol (i know that her turning back is mostly bc of Link, king Rauru and Sonia combining their powers, but narratively i also believe their spirits cleansed her *after* her purpose as the light dragon was fulfilled).
Also this is off topic but this game had one of the few instances in the series where Zelda has the courage to physically fight back too and that was incredible to watch narratively. (a few other examples being her as Sheik in Ocarina, or her in the new Wisdom game that just came out.) It was just really cool to watch both Link AND Zelda take Ganon out together.
This is the first time I’ve seen her use her body AND her spirit to protect what she loves (her body protects hyrule as a dragon and her spirit is repairing the master sword), so it makes it feel like our Zelda decided to do all of this. So this all feels like the Princess of the Wilds sacrifice, instead of the reincarnated goddesses destiny. (another cute detail is that the Hero of the Wilds only mission is to “Save Zelda” not hyrule, Zelda is the most important thing to him so he really feels like *her* chosen knight, not hyrules.)
The goddess statues in the 3 springs also reveal that the 3 dragons are all females.
Edit: idk why this comment has so many Likes, but thanks.
I mean Din, Nayru, & Farore have always been female. And most of their equivalents throughout the franchise when it isn't THOSE versions are typically female as well.
@@CaptainCFalcon True but 2/3 dragons in Skyward Sword were male and they were named after the goddesses, so it's still something that's worth clarifying
@@Jack_MxM that's why I said "most." That was pretty much the only time that was ever different as well.
Thats only for the English translation as far as I’m aware
@@CaptainCFalcon Yes, I did read that you said "most", but my point still stands. This is because without official confirmation we wouldn't know with 100% certainty that they're female in TotK, so it's worth people pointing that out.
This actually makes sense because in botw, the dragon's entries in the compendium all say "the dragon acsends into the heavens, and the Zonai are said to have decsended from the heavens onto the surface of the world. The dragons can also be seen decsending from the sky in botw at times.
Aside from the fire one, it rises from the depths at times
@@somerandomtiger7603All three of the dragons go into and out of the depths in TotK but they’re saying they ascend into the heavens in BotW (usually when they spawn they fly around and then disappear into the cloud cover…the same cloud cover that disappears during the Upheavel at the beginning of TotK, which also exposes the Light Dragon, who doesn’t fly lower than the sky islands and therefore doesn’t fly lower than where the former cloud cover was until after **spoilers**
**spoilers**
*SPOILERS**
you get the Master Sword out of her head.
I think when they disappear into those portals in the clouds in BOTW they were going through the cloud barrier that hides the sky islands. They are drawn to remnants of Zonai civilization both in the sky and depths.
The heavens are just relating to the sky
@@somerandomtiger7603 they all go I and out of the depths
I still can't believe that Ganondorf watched Rauru obliterate an entire herd of Modulgas in one blast and still thought "I can take him"
I had the headcanon that the three golden goddesses swallowed the triforce pieces, similar to how Zelda swallowed a tear. I know that there could lore issues, but it's fun to think about.
That fits with the opening cutscene in OoT
Well the names also match up with Oot
Obvious lore issue that Zelda is known to have at least the Triforce of Wisdom.
the thing is, when would they swallow it?
and lorule was ruined because there was no triforce, but it is still fun to think about
@@Missingno_Miner As well as Link wielding the Triforce of Courage and Ganon wielding the Triforce of Power.
I think it could be seen as suggesting that Din, Nayru, and Farore were once Zonai who "created" the world of Hyrule and the Triforce. Their secret stones could have been "power, wisdom, and courage" and its possible that the secret stones were how they created the Triforce?
Canon establishes that the Triforce was left where they departed the world after creating it. Given that's all the description the Great Cataclysm was ever given in OoT, there's room for interpretation.
maybe the ancient hero, who was a zonai, could be the dragon of courage we see today?
That contradicts the creation story told by the Great Deku Tree in OoT, lore, depiction, and (inheritable) power of the Triforce shown in OoT, WW, TP, SS.
The dragons in BOTW are merely named in honor of the Golden Goddesses who are immortal beings. "Before time and life existed descended upon the chaos that was Hyrule." They are way above and beyond any formerly mortal dragons.
The zonai only existed after the fall of the last kingdom of hyrule. The golden goddess predate all of that. Besides we know what the zonai are. They’re clearly what the bird people from twilight princess (and before that the sky hylians the stayed behind) became after the freaky “ evolution” that happens in Zelda.
I know Nintendo said they aren’t actually going to do dlc but having some dlc with dungeons, cutscenes and text explaining the dragons past as zonai, along with the reason they consumed their stones would have been great. along with more lore on ganondorf’s motivations (even though I don’t mind evil for the sake of being evil, many people found it disappointing)
I think they are the embodiment of the 3 gods: din, farore and nayru
I agree with you 100%
Exactly, i don't know why anyone would think differently. 3 female eternal dragons that all share the same names....🤔
Yep
remember the other dragons from skyward sword? they were called "eldin" "lanayru" and "faron" they were servants of the goddesses, but they weren't the goddesses themselves, that is also the case with farosh, nayadra and dinraal@@paulmiley3450
This is spot on. Yet someone will watch this video and assume this is now canon
I think the Dragons are the 3 Golden Goddesses who ate their respective pieces of the Triforce after witnessing the centuries of destruction it had caused in the hands of mortals and the sacrifice that the Goddess Hylia, Keeper of the Triforce, and her faithful Knight made to stop the Demon King, dooming them to an endless cycle of reincarnation.
I like this
The triforce isnt a secret stone though?
@@DoctorTexyeah true, these are probably descendants or people chosen to rule under the goddess that were given secret stones which is why there name might be so similar but not the same
This is... Headcanon. But it sure is an interesting theory. Too bad zelda *has the triforce, and the Golden Goddesses are in the Heavens, a higher plane*
The Triforce wouldnt function anything like a secret stone. Their powers and purposes are almost entirely different in addition to the fact that the Triforce or at least a piece of it still exists in Zelda during BotW. The Goddesses are also morally neutral, and created the Triforce to be used by anyone with a balanced spirit, regardless of whether they're good or evil. It doesn't seem likely that they would be regretful or sympathetic of anything. And finally, being a dragon is such a downgrade, considering they created the world. They could probably destroy the Triforce if they wanted to. The Triforce can even destroy itself (A Link Between Worlds) and they're above its power.
And the Ember, Charged and Frostbite Sets Headgear also reseble the horns of These dragons.
Maybe those were their clothes when they were human and tbh the charged Set Looks a Lot Like Rauru's clothes and the Ember Set kinda reminded me of Ganondorf's clothes (but just a little) maybe a hint to the triforce and the 3 godesses.
I was looking for this comment for a while, I fully agree, especially noticeable by the horns, the charged set having Farosh’s horn, ember Dinraal, and frostbite Naydra, hopefully DLC will expand on the dragons
@@oddalibi it would be also nice If Kass would Return in the dlcs
I thought that was pretty obvious the moment the process of dragonification is explained, like only the zonai knew of this obviously the dragons are former zonai
The names of the dragons are very similar to the names of the gods from oot, that came from the sky. And as Zelda explained the story of the zonai, she said that the zonai were godlike and also came from the sky.
PS:Omg thx so much for the 150 likes never got that many before! :D
Edit: Omg can’t believe it how did i get 400 likes thanks to everyone who liked this comment :)
3rd Edit: 500 likes is insane! Cant believe this comment still gets likes...
Nah, the Zonai are a different race from the Goddess Tribe. They’re blessed by the Gods, like the Hylians were, the Surface dwellers just ignorantly assumed them to be deities because they came from the sky. The Golden Goddesses who created the world, as told in the creation story of Hyrule, are an entirely different ballpark from the Zonai. And they’re definitely not mere Dragons.
The three dragons are undoubtedly servants of the Golden Goddesses, though, considering their proximity to the Springs and subservience to Hylia, who is herself a servant of the Three Goddesses.
Thanks for telling me your opinion but I still think there is quite a similarity. Your opinion is also interesting tho.
The first Queen was a priestess of Hylia, it could be that the dragons were Zonai priestesses to those specific goddesses and swallowed their stones
@@10011011100101 good theory
Im pretty sure in botw in the compendium or somewhere it was mentioned how the 3 dragons were spirits that took on a dragon form and we can see them retreating back into the ‘heavens’ in botw thru the sky portal so i personally dont think they were actual zonai people who ate a stone but the design similarities are certainly there
Well the compendium for the light dragon saids "A Spirit took the form of a dragon"
@@paulsander5579This is an excellent point, the compendium does refer to the light dragon as a spirt turned dragon even though we know it was zelda. Maybe by calling them "spirits" in the compendium it is referring to the spirit of the individual with the resolve to undergo dragonification.
When i saw that memory yesterday (yes i just beat the game recently) i thought that perhaps the stones were created with the purpose of making the sages able to reach immortality to protect hyrule forever and in the past 10 sages existed but 7 were somehow killed with only those 3 dragons remaining in the present
I feel like male sonai look more like goats and female ones more like canines. And also for the ears, they Match the ones of Rauru.the manes are white with an undercoat that matches their Element, just like with Rauru. It basically all adds up to them being malw sonai draconified, yes
In the game I thought they refer to Farosh as a she
Let's also take the possibility that these zonai might have been really old and maybe looked old too.
Maybe they gain the longer ears, snout and hair as they age and that's why mineru looks how she does in totk.
(As she is younger and these features haven't come in yet)
Again zonai seem to be sexually dimorphic so these features may come late Into maturity in female zonai.
nah it walks with two legs goats don’t do that
All of the dragons are female, confirmed by the goddess statues
@@randymcdonald1012 I play the german Version so there might be differences, but I don't recall the status saying that
They’re kinda like your explanation. But I believe that they were once goddesses that created Hyrule. Farosh was once Farore, Naydra was once Nayru, and Dinraal was once Din, those were the 3 goddesses.
How would the Goddesses fall from grace then? They're gods. They wouldn't have just turned themselves into dragons, something else must've. I find it unlikely that someone or something dragged the Goddesses from whatever divine realm they were in and turned them into dragons, and did nothing to them afterwards.
After they completed the labors of creating Hyrule, the goddesses departed for the heavens, but not before leaving behind the Triforce, with each golden triangle representing a small portion of the essence of the goddesses. They gave one of each to 3 certain kind of persons in Hyrule. Ganondorf- Was given the Triforce of Power. Zelda- Was given The Triforce of Wisdom. Link- Was given the Triforce of Courage. After doing this she started a process that shedded her divinity and power to mortify herself. While doing this she supposedly perished. Therefore Zelda, with the Triforce given to her, is now the what most people call, “Mortal reincarnated Hylia.”
I also thought this!
I’m assuming they were Zonai Oracles like Din/Nayru/Forore and who were previous wearers of the dragon armors we find in the game.
I like the idea that the secret stone is hidden under the horn, since zonai were more made to work with that technology, so they COULD be draconified and have the extra stones, or the horn grew when the stone was pulled off their head, idk. Or the horn pushed the stone out so they were simply dragons with no stone, idk.
My personal theory is that the three dragons are the original three goddesses. Think about it, three goddesses descend from the heavens: Farore, Nayru, and Din. They're said to be extremely powerful, just like a Zonai with a secret stone. When a Zonai eats a secret stone, they become a dragon. I'm pretty sure the dragons are all female but I couldn't tell you where I heard that. And each of the dragons bears an element similar to one of the goddesses: fire for Din/Dinral; ice for Nayru/Naydra; and while wind and lightning aren't the same thing for Farore and Farosh, it could be like a storms thing, the sky, something like that. So, here's my theory: the three goddesses were part of a previous generation of Zonai that descended from the heavens in the ancient ANCIENT past, stuff happened, and they eventually consumed their secret stones to become eternal guardians for Hyrule. Hell, maybe they didn't know it would happen, maybe that was how the Zonai found out about the dragon thing in the first place, who knows.
Wild theory: They ate pieces of the triforce instead of secret stones. That would explain why they are tied to the springs and look like each one, also explains why the triforce is missing in Botw and Totk
Each dragon has a "triforce" scale on its back as well.
I like to think the dragons were reincarnations of the three goddessess who swalloed their tears
Yes! After all, they have names similar to their designated goddess.
My theory is that the 3 Zonai became Dragons to escape something that was causing the downfall of their race, like a plague. I would love to see this expanded upon in a DLC.
Maybe they killed the dragons of the Depths
@@orestespena3262 Dragons of the depths?
@@hereskyubi3333 yeah you know where you get your Hero of the Wild Tunic from the Depths. There's 3 very large (DARK) dragon skeletons with the treasure chests in their mouths.
@@orestespena3262 oh
Also Farrosh's horn matches the Zonai armor you find in the ring ruins quest in TOTK.
The main issue I had with this theory was that in the carving we see 7 stones. The room in the forbidden temple 🚫 🕍 ⛩ 🏯 was also designed to hold 7
But the carving & the room were maybe just made after those 3 zonai became dragons 🐉 & there were actually originally 10. This all opens room for dlc
Yes that’s a good point but you have to realize that it was only really built in the era of rauru, when there were only two zonai left. Back when there were hundreds of zonai in hyrule, there were also probably many more secret stones.
@@linketchup ¿Wonder what purpose would all those other secret stones have served? I can understand 8 existing as per one representing Time/Hylia and 7 to represent the 7 Sages but what would be the purpose of all those _other_ secret stones? I can't imagine the Zonai needing more stones to "increase their power" considering they were _already_ powerful enough to rule the surface world for hundreds of years by their technology alone. Things don't add up.
I thought each zonai had a secret stone
10 secret stones. 7 for the ancient sages +3 for the dragons
original zelda,8 pieces of the broken triforce of wisdom, 1 triforce for link, 1 triforce for ganon. 10 pieces.. coincidence? i think not😅
It’s banned for a reason then Turing g into the dragons could have been the reason it was banned
They have names of 3 goddesses of the tri force. Din, Nayru, Farore
The Green Dragon is Faron, the Blue one is Lanaryu and the Red one is Eldin
Didn't they used to be balled Din, Farore and Nayru?
I swear, we better get their story in a DLC.
Edit: Well that didn’t age well.
i hope you're hungry.... for a big ol' nothing burger
There is no DLC
@@ElleBaby87NDA's may be in use among Nintendo's employees, therefore legally they have to deny DLC
It’s relieving to hear this that was one of my main questions when playing botw
Their ears and eyes match almost perfectly to the zonai as well
I think the theory is cool but is missing one big piece of information: the three Golden Goddesses Din, Nayru, and Farore. I personally believe the dragons are either draconified forms of the Goddesses themselves or creatures made by each respective goddess. Though, I’m not sure exactly how they did that, so I’m open to more discussion.
That was my thought too because of their colors and names
This. No way Nintendo is just gonna wave away the similarities like that.
The Light Spirits from Twilight Princess, dragons from Skyward Sword, and Oracles from the Oracle games also have names referencing the Golden Goddesses but none of them have been confirmed to have been created by the Golden Goddesses and certainly aren’t the Goddesses themselves.
My theory: 3 Zonai who worshipped the Goddesses at the springs were granted a power from the Goddesses to protect and turned into dragons to do so forever until the right Link comes about that solves whatever quest and is granted the power
@@Zeeboklown Well, they waved away the similarities between Din (Oracle of Seasons) and Din (Golden Goddess).
As well as Nayru (Oracle of Ages) and Nayru (Golden Goddess).
And Farore (Oracle of Secrets) and Farore (Golden Goddess).
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if we get zero further information about the three dragons...
I would honestly love a game that explored the Zonai during their prime, possibly showing who the dragons were and why they chose to draconify themselves. Maybe like a spin-off of the main Zelda games.
No, ive never wondered that, i just saw dragons on the thumbnail so i clocked it.
Hoping we get more on this in the DLC. There’s a lot left unanswered
Well…
There isn't going to be DLC
@@ElleBaby87 no shit we know that NOW. That was announced after I left my comment.
@@primalvalorwe still dont know, considering ninteno employees and officials may have signed NDA's where they cant reveal anything yet, therefore they have to deny any possibility
@@vladdy974 I don’t think that’s how NDAs work, and we also would have heard by now. The game has been out for 6 months
I also noticed that the elemental outfits in TOTK each represent one of the dragons, maybe it was their outfit before becoming a dragon or just an outfit for a ritual in the image of the dragons
What a brilliant conclusion. Geez, you must be a genius.
It also explains why Zelda’s Light Dragon looked so different from the others
Turns out that the answer to all the mysteries feom botw is "the zonai"
zonai munching on those secret stones like forbidden fruity pebbles
I'd like to see more theories around the total amount of secret stones, since the mural depicts 7(?) stones, but if we include the 3 dragons, there would be 10 secret stones.
Imagine your friend pranking you and putting your stone in your food.
That is a great theory! I have been thinking about it too, but today I realised that it might be related to another question I would like to have answered. I didn't understand who the statues in the depths are that you have to follow to get to Master Kogha. But they also lead you to regions below the main dragon territory in Totk. So maybe they all represent some ancient heroes whose destiny was to become dragons in order to fulfil their duty (perhaps to protect the sacred sources/parts of the Triforce). So the question remains whether all the dragons were once people who somehow underwent the ritual of dragonizarion and how it did happen
We also have the fire ice and storm strength sets which resemble the dragons which would suggest that the ancient zonai who became dragons wore them
Its a nice detail that the light dragon’s mane matches it’s original hair like the 3 elemental dragon’s manes match the zonai mane that Rauru has
I thought the same thing as soon as it was revealed how to become a dragon and I hoped to hear something about the stories of the other dragons and what made those three Zonai go this way.
Well, but this process can happen to any race, since Zelda was a hylian, and turned into a dragon
Does that mean there are more than seven Stones?
Seems like it yeah.
@@AndresRestart Or they reappear like the Triforce.
@@tz5116 I have a feeling there's a DLC/sequel on the way which will adress the identity of the 3 dragons and Zelda's use of the Triforce to undo their draconification.
I think there were 10 originally, the seven from the original sages + 3 from the draconified dragons
that means there were originally 10, one for each dragon, and then one for each of the sages (not counting rauru's because it's also zelda's and she is counted as a sage)
The Ember, Frost, and Charged outfits all have the horns of each of the three dragons as well as Zonai emblems. The three dragons were Zonai and wore those outfits.
I've actually been super interested in the dragons and have been collecting information that I thought was interesting
Facts about the dragons
The light dragon being the youngest dragon has weaker horns Then the rest of the dragons
If I'm correct it's +16 compared to +26
Implying that the three dragons were created at the same time (does anyone else smell a future Zelda game 😊)
Also that inconsistency isn't obvious to the people you sell the horns and scales too because they still sell for the exact same even though The light dragon horns are weaker
Also while riding the dragons I got a much closer look at their faces and I really do not think they were all zonai
For example out of all the dragons the fire spirit has the shortest nose implying that they may have been goron because it seems some characteristics stay with you
I Also noticed that the ice dragons horns are more like a plumage of feathers and almost like a beak muzzle
Spoilers for more of the tear memories
We can tell that the light dragon used to be hylian because they kept the most prominent features like the sharp ears and narrow face features
Of course you could counter this theory by saying that they all have big floppy ears meaning they all came from big floppy eared zonai But I feel like the dragons would look a bit too similar if they all came from one species
I think the Ember, Frost, and Shock sets are the clothes they used to wear before they became dragons, since it’s best noticed on how the headpieces’ horns match the horns of their respective elemental dragon.
Yeah same!
Farsoh is my spirit guide. ❤❤❤❤
Yeah and I feel they should have talked about it in TOTK. If they had a stone to swallow it means they were important people, and now they serve the springs of the 3 goddesses, so even more important
They came from the 3 goddesses as a statute of their power.. that is all
Probably not Zonai at all. Probably preceded the Zonai
Having each eaten one piece of the triforce the zonais Din, Farore, and Nayru began their guardianship in dragon form of the sacred power left by the goddess hylia.
I think thats why they were bigger than zelda as well, they each hold a piece of the triforce which is still ‘missing’ in these games
They also have the spiky eyelashes like Rauru yet that other you-know-who dragon has softer ones with gold eyeliner.
No I've never "wondered" because like you said in the video, they explain it in the game as part of the storyline. Its pretty obvious.
Yeah, I always go the oracle route with this. Welcome to: The 3 golden goddesses have had oracles before (Farore’s game was cancelled) and so it wouldn’t be too shocking and would explain their connection to their respective springs and names
the tree dragons names also match up really really closely with the three great fairies that ceated the triforce in ocarina of time
Din the Goddess of Power
Nayru the Goddess of Wisdom
Farore the Goddess of Courage
I really really hope we get dlc that goes so in depth of the past and even the origins on the dragons
I could be wrong, but i recall reading that the Three Goddess' actually CHOSE to take the form of dragons while they roamed Hyrule, without swallowing any stones. But its been a while.
Farosh Armor set " the charged set " has Raurus same outfit, what if he was originally Destined to become a dragon, but because he performed the Binding seal on Ganondorf, a Zonai named farosh had to take his place and swallow a secret stone
Good point, and the Light Dragon does have a different facial structure than the others. That only solidifies it I think.
I’d love to see unofficial art of what these dragons may have looked like as people
I had subnautica flashbacks when i turned around to see a dragon right behind me in BOTW
Ok, so we can see the fire and lightning stones were likely consumed to make 2 dragons. We saw a light and a dark dragon.
Was there an ice stone at some point?
If a stone is consumed how it is still around for their future sages?
Could there be time, wind, or water dragons hidden in the world (not game but universe)?
Technically, there is no "stone of ice" or "stone of fire," there is just the stone, and whatever power it amplifies within its bearer, like how the same stone amplified Sonia's time power and Ganondorf's darkness.
My own head canon is that there were originally 10 secret stones, and that 3 were previously consumed by ancient Zonai sages whose stones amplified their abilities to control fire, ice, and thunderstorms.
And if we're open to the idea that there are (or were) more stones than that, then there absolutely could be more dragons. Who knows, maybe the dark skeletons in the Depths are the remains of former dragons?
@@v1de0gamr23 interesting...not my interpretation but it makes sense. i need to rewatch/reinterpret based on this
I think that they were the golden goddesses, and they created all the zonai technology, and when they left to the sacred realm after creating hyrule, they swallowed secret stones, and their memories and stuff were stripped, but also, the golden power of the triforce from all three of them was stripped. That is how they left behind the triforce. I also believe that the zonai were once the skyloftians. It makes sense because Rauru from ocarina of time has always been compared to Gaepora from Skyward sword, so it makes sense that Rauru would be a descendant of gaepora, but also rauru from totk is named after oot rauru, which means totk rauru is probably a descendant of oot rauru, so all three of them are related. I believe that gaepora and the other skyloftians found their way into the sacred realm after skyward sword, and one of his descendants was rauru, who became the sage of light before then leaving the sacred realm and building the temple of time, and sealing the sacred realm. Then the skyloftians evolved to be more like the golden goddesses, and one of rauru's descendants, as well as several other Skyloftians (who were now zonai), descended from the sacred realm, and they inhabited hyrule, and then eventually another of his descendants who was named after him, married sonia and established hyrule, and rebuilt his ancestors temple of time with zonai architecture, but after the events that took place in the memories happened, the zonai architecture temple of time was sent to the sky, so hylians rebuilt it again with hylian architecture, in the same style as oot rauru's temple.
My personal headcanon is that they were Zonai priestesses of the three goddesses, who, as they aged and neared dying, swallowed secret stones to attain immortality to serve their goddesses eternally.
i think it also implies that the sages that came together as seen in ocarina of time may have somehow became the dragons we see in botw and totk but idk there’s so many loops around it
I believe that they were once the Zonai priestess, but I have a theory that they ate the 3 pieces of the triforce since they are connected to the springs that represent courage, power and wisdom. That’s why the triforce is not visibly seen as a key item in both or totk. I also think that the sacred stones are made of the same essence that the triforce was made from, thus when eating either of them, the user will be turned into an immortal dragon.
The three dragons also have a piece of the triforce on their back so maybe din, nayru and farore were zonai-turned-dragons
@AndresRestart What is the music for this video? It's familiar to me but can't place it
I was kind of hoping to hear something I didn't figure out already like any deeper connections than the obvious context clues the game hands you.
Another theory is that the three golden godesses were Zonai and became the three dragons Farosh - Farore Nayru - Naydra Din - Dinraal
#raiseriggy
Just imagine the fact that there WERE lots of dragons in Hyrule. The only ones the remain are the ones we see now.
I actually went for something like this in an AU I’m writing a comic for
Ok so two things, it makes sense that they have zonia origins as in past games the names relating to the golden goddess have been guardians of the 3 regions. Makes sense that the most powerful people around would be the guardians and hypothetically they ate secret stones to ensure they can protect these regions for all of time. Especially during a time where plenty of threats existed
Now I'm questioning the decision and ability to shoot off their scales, nails and piece of the horn
They could've been maidens for the springs in their time before their draconification. In 3 games, we have oracles named Din, Farore and Nayru, as seen in Oracle of Seasons/Ages and Minish Cap. It's not far of a stretch that incarnations of them existed as Zonai instead of being Hylian or from Holodrum and Labrynna.
"Slight spoilers"
*dumps main plot twist*
Yeah, but you need a secret stone for draconification. And to our knowledge, all secret stones still just exist. I'm not sure if it was ever explicitly stated, but I'm almost certain that there are only 7. 5 are weilded by the sages (Yunobo, Sidon, Tulin, Riju and Mineru), one by Zelda and the last one is in the hands or rather on the forehead of Ganondorf. No other Secret Stones seem to ever have been mentioned.
This is what I've been saying, does this imply that there are/were other stones out there? If we look at MM there are no mentions of dragons stones or the 3 deities, yet we see a possible secret stone in the form of the moon tear. Is it possible that the stones just haven't been located or are hidden in plain sight
why would they mention something from a future game that they have not even thought about in a game that came out ages ago?@@shoopuff_8994
If you also noticed the names of the dragons are reminiscent of the 3 goddeses. Don, Nayru, and Farore.
The three dragons also are similar as the three powers from the triforce:
Dinraal -> Red -> Power (strong and powerful horns)
Naydra -> Blue -> Wisdom (horns almost like a wide shield)
Farosh -> Green -> Courage (horn that resembles a sword )
Also the elemental armor is themed after every dragon, which could be what they wore before they became dragons
Maybe they had secret stones that held the powers of lightning, frost, and fire at some point.
Kass gonna learn about the Dragons’ Song & give you DLC quests to free them from dragon form. then it’ll be a quest for the Triforce
They have to do with Nayru, Din, & Farore the three golden goddesses that gave the triforce to the land of hyrule.
Not sure how, but there’s definitely a connection due to the naming!
If you play Ocarina of Time, or know about the sages/goddesses that created hyrule, you can see the names match pretty well. Especially Naydra.
I thought of this theory on Reddit before this short!
I don’t really agree with the conclusion here, just because the Zonai and the dragons look similar does not actually mean that the Dragons must have been Zonai before they transformed
I like my theory that the other 3 dragons are the 3 sages of the land (rito, gerudo, and the goron) who swallowed their gems. Could also explain some routes they take, and the areas they are in
I never ever considered that the dragons might have once been people.
the thing so many people forget is that the dragons are spirits. they are the guardians created by the the golden goddesses to watch over the lands of hyrule. it is unconfirmed if these dragons are actually zonai or if they are the spirits. it may just be that most dragons look alike while zelda looked different because of her connection to hylia
I wish they gave us some sort of dlc where it talks about the origins of these 3 dragons and who they were before when they were human/zonai
I think it’s obvious that the Zonai (Rauru and Mineru) were designed after the dragons in BOTW so this interpretation of their lore is mostly likely correct in TOTK. However, in BOTW, they were probably just meant to be avatars or incarnations of the 3 goddesses of the Triforce, but this was retconned in TOTK like many other things.
Interesting theory I like it and it kinda makes sense
Those sacred stones must taste great, but almost everyone that gets one ends up eating it.
Maybe a DLC will shed more light on the origins of the dragons. Maybe there is a connection between them and the original sages of the Zoras, Gorons and Gerudos. My first theory was that they swallowed their stones as well, because they apparently didn’t die directly after the fight against Ganondorf but like
Mineru they were
doomed to die eventually. But then the question would be how the secret stones need up in the hands of Ganondorfs servants.