induction cooker - ZVS waveforms

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  • Опубліковано 17 лис 2024
  • More experiments with the induction cooker. Waveforms on my oscilloscope, figuring out how does it work. It seems to be a series resonant circuit driven above its resonant frequency by an IGBT halfbridge. It uses zero voltage switching (ZVS). The transistors turn on at zero voltage, with no turn-on loss. They turn off under a current, but the turn-off loss is minimized using snubber capacitors. The output power is frequency modulated. Lower frequency gets is closer to resonance, resulting in more power.
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  • @dwaynezilla
    @dwaynezilla 3 роки тому +40

    These teardown and analyses are exactly why I'm here. Ooo, and that demonstration with the snipped sine being overlaid is fantastic. That kind of insight makes this a great learning channel!! I'm here because I wanna see what's inside, but the explanation makes me _understand_ what's inside!

  • @marcogeri
    @marcogeri 3 роки тому +34

    You are awesome! I work since more than 15 years on these stuffs and this is probably the best explanation of resonant power stages I have ever seen. Glad to be one of your patrons. Please continue like this.

  • @fabiomuzzi7047
    @fabiomuzzi7047 3 роки тому +8

    The "Paper waveform simulator" is fantastic. Very nice and clear explaination!

  • @Langendimi555
    @Langendimi555 3 роки тому +8

    Awesome! Thanks for spoiling us with so much video time this week. We should send more power electronics to CZ, these video's are brilliant. No adds, no annoying music, but to the point and amaaazing! Please never stop, this is gold for electronics enthusiasts like me. I have learned more from you (smps) than I did in school.. But these resonant circuits still feel like black magic tho when trying to tune/adjust them 😅

  • @anoimo9013
    @anoimo9013 3 роки тому

    Absolute thorough explanation with high level of practical details of a complex black magic-like phenomena

  • @EdwinSteiner
    @EdwinSteiner 6 місяців тому

    Your paper waveform simulator is so awesome! Great explanation!

  • @DrHouse-zs9eb
    @DrHouse-zs9eb 3 роки тому +3

    The buttons probably worked fine with the original glass on it... But you are right about the rotary knob. The new models got rid of it.

  • @l_szabi
    @l_szabi 3 роки тому +4

    The coil heats the pot not just by eddy currents, but also by the hysteresis losses, which (i think) may be much more significant in this case, that's why it only works with ferromagnetic materials, like iron and steel. Aluminum is not ferromagnetic, but it could still be heated by eddy currents. However, usually the bottom of aluminum pots are thin so less eddy currents can flow there. I think it could work with thicker pots, even not ferromagnetic ones, I'm not sure though. I need to learn more in this topic, but something tells me that the magnetic properties of the pot is important. (Maybe for the coupling of the field of the coils?)
    You can also think of it like the pot being the core of the inductor. The cooker basically utilizes the heat that would mean the losses in a transformer.
    Maybe you could try is with sheets of various thickness and materials.
    Also, awesome video as always!

    • @inductivelycoupledplasma6207
      @inductivelycoupledplasma6207 Місяць тому

      From my experiments, thin sheets of aluminum (eg foil) DO work on an induction cooker (although you can't exactly heat food lol, the foil just melts). I think the resistance of a relatively thick Al pot is too high for significant eddy current losses, but a thinner sheet has a low enough resistance to work

  • @largepimping
    @largepimping 3 роки тому +3

    I've been looking at induction cooktops -- those are great points about the capacitive buttons/switches. Helps me with making a choice!

  • @andymouse
    @andymouse 3 роки тому +5

    Fascinating breakdown ! sooo much info and well explained, I especially love you PWS demo ! ( Paper Waveform System) great way to teach.....cheers.

  • @Speeder84XL
    @Speeder84XL 3 роки тому +1

    Really interesting!
    Appherently they use varying frequency to tune/detune the circuit more or less into/out of resonance, to regulate power. Always running the circuit in full resonance (with true zero voltage switching) and have current regulation on the input instead, would give slightly better efficiency - but requires more components. It's all about making simple and cheap design and it's still way more efficient than an "ordinary" stove using resistive heating.

  • @seandoofer5720
    @seandoofer5720 3 роки тому +1

    interesting lesson in magnetics, thanks Danyk.

  • @nguy80303
    @nguy80303 3 роки тому

    Thank you!!! I studied resonant converters in my master degree classy. I had not thought interns that above resonant converters is exactly cutting the sine wave short. I gain new knowledge today

  • @dosgos
    @dosgos 3 роки тому +1

    Bloody great cooking video series.

  • @THEMFORMATION
    @THEMFORMATION 2 роки тому

    Damn this guy would make a good inventor.

  • @HugforYou
    @HugforYou 3 роки тому +1

    Great explanatory video! Thank you very much mr DGW!! Greetings from switzerland ☺️

  • @JAINUL_HAQ
    @JAINUL_HAQ 3 роки тому +1

    I only picked up 10% of what you are talking about.... But want to learn as much as i can

  • @johnconrad5487
    @johnconrad5487 3 роки тому +1

    Good explanation. Thanks for making this video.

  • @dosgos
    @dosgos 3 роки тому

    Awesome paper cutting example. Complexity well explained.

  • @Paxmax
    @Paxmax 3 роки тому

    Awesome walkthrough, great explanations.... and yes, what the heck happened to stove useability over the years?! This touch-design-over-function BS must stop, just give us easy grip knobs that turn, are easy to clean and doesn't get flooded over incase of something boiling over. One of the great features of induction is that it almost instantly stops adding heat once you turn down (as opposed to steel plates/IR).

  • @LawpickingLocksmith
    @LawpickingLocksmith 3 роки тому

    Super! Always wanted to do this myself. Thanks for showing. And you picked the best cooktop too!

  • @marcinborkowicz2557
    @marcinborkowicz2557 3 роки тому

    Danyk, bloody hell!😉 It's my second attempt to watch it carefully and (try my best to) understand as many as I can. First time I fell asleep but not because the video was boring or too long, no! - it's because at the evening I like to challenge my brain and bend it at such demanding but fricking interesting things like you present.
    Anyway, man - you've got an exceptional talent to teach people some nerdy stuff in such interesting and educative way. Kudos!

  • @barjan82
    @barjan82 3 роки тому +2

    Cooking our Saturday lunch soup on a induction cooker while watching this 😀

  • @YatendraSaraswat
    @YatendraSaraswat 3 роки тому

    Love the content & our South Indian ascent is awesome 👌

  • @ivankirola2707
    @ivankirola2707 3 роки тому

    I am happy to see this oscilloscope

  • @imapay2winandyouarefree2pl87
    @imapay2winandyouarefree2pl87 3 роки тому +11

    I'm Late But That is awesome Waveforms

  • @francoisdastardly4405
    @francoisdastardly4405 3 роки тому

    I really love your soviet oscilloscope !!

  • @mylestechnological7031
    @mylestechnological7031 3 роки тому +1

    That waveform looks very close to a circuit that I designed

  • @achimxe2617
    @achimxe2617 3 роки тому +1

    Great explanatory video!

  • @gabrielhacecosas
    @gabrielhacecosas 3 роки тому +6

    Please make a secondary coil with many turns that is in resonance with the cooker coil and see if it becomes a tesla coil, I've always wanted to do that, but I don't have an induction stove.

  • @firefox1136
    @firefox1136 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks for the Great vid! I have a video Idea For you: You could turn your SSTC into a DRSSTC by adding a resonanz capacitor to the primary side. It would be interesting to see, what effect it had on the arcs.

  • @godfreypoon5148
    @godfreypoon5148 3 роки тому +4

    Tractor feed paper!!
    With tear-off sides!!!!!

  • @katsuoto4684
    @katsuoto4684 3 роки тому

    I think This ZVS behavior on this video is similar to that of LLC converter, and also I think this ZVS topology well fit to this application due to driving inductive load. Thank you for sharing interesting video!

  • @electronic7979
    @electronic7979 3 роки тому +2

    Helpful video 👍

  • @RGMadu
    @RGMadu 3 роки тому

    I will leave a like because I liked the whole videoooo.

  • @bonzeno85
    @bonzeno85 3 роки тому +8

    Man. You're so smart......
    ...and so is your cat 😂😂

  • @mohinderkaur6671
    @mohinderkaur6671 3 роки тому

    Great explanation - Thanks

  • @mikajuurikivi4293
    @mikajuurikivi4293 3 роки тому +1

    Really good video 👍

  • @spamlucal
    @spamlucal 3 роки тому

    Your videos are amazing

  • @ЯСуперСтар
    @ЯСуперСтар 3 роки тому +1

    It's probably would be easier to manage this controls by changing the radius your finger is making. When you have to change power, place your finger closer to the center of it and vice versa.

  • @douro20
    @douro20 3 роки тому

    So why did they take this thing apart? Did the control panel stop working?

  • @rogeronslow1498
    @rogeronslow1498 3 роки тому

    Nice video. I wonder if the power devices have anti-parallel diodes in them.

  • @endremurti
    @endremurti Рік тому

    hy thanks for explaining such awesome work,, what diode do you use to limit the voltage of the current sensing probe?

  • @rex-up9ln
    @rex-up9ln 3 роки тому +3

    unexpected face reveal @ scope screen ;)

    • @firefox1136
      @firefox1136 3 роки тому +3

      to be honest, you can find pictures of him on the Internet, you just have to know where to look...

    • @rex-up9ln
      @rex-up9ln 3 роки тому +3

      yep, I know.

  • @MuhammadHanif-bx4pb
    @MuhammadHanif-bx4pb 3 роки тому +1

    I have cheap inductive stove (around 30USD) and it seems like it not that advanced, it basically cycles periodically like resistive element.
    if I set it to minimum power it have duty cycle of 10% with around a minute or less for the cycle to complete
    and if I put it to 10 it basically stays on.
    and the amazing thing happen when it's fully on. after 10 minutes of operations the big "smoothing" capacitor right aver full bridge rectifier pops and fuming and surprisingly the fuse didn't blow FML.

  • @Azaakiel20
    @Azaakiel20 2 роки тому

    looks like pulsing reactive powers of the coils?

  • @piconano
    @piconano 3 роки тому

    We've come far from cooking with camp fire!

  • @HazeAnderson
    @HazeAnderson 3 роки тому

    Sawtooth wave is just a triangle with a skewed duty cycle. 😏

  • @edgeeffect
    @edgeeffect 3 роки тому

    Could you make us a basic tutorial on how KVD drivers work?

  • @Alimotevalian-g8i
    @Alimotevalian-g8i Рік тому

    how can it turn on zero voltage

  • @Purple431
    @Purple431 3 роки тому +3

    Insulated
    Gate
    Bipolar
    Transistor

    • @roseelectronics4582
      @roseelectronics4582 3 роки тому

      Invented by an Indian scientist.

    • @PCbolt17
      @PCbolt17 3 роки тому +1

      @@roseelectronics4582 Jayant Bakigha sir I think...

    • @roseelectronics4582
      @roseelectronics4582 3 роки тому

      @@PCbolt17 I'm sure. You got a nice channel going, subscribed.

    • @Purple431
      @Purple431 3 роки тому

      To me? ^w^

    • @roseelectronics4582
      @roseelectronics4582 3 роки тому +1

      @@Purple431 I just said IGBT was an invention of an India physicist.

  • @sortofsmarter
    @sortofsmarter 3 роки тому

    Cooking with diode's...lol

  • @ciprianpopa1503
    @ciprianpopa1503 3 роки тому

    So, no carrot soup recipe?

  • @addd281
    @addd281 3 роки тому +2

    👍

  • @cherrymountains72
    @cherrymountains72 3 роки тому +1

    Wow, chain paper... Dot matrix printers rejoice!

  • @souravrangnekar2347
    @souravrangnekar2347 3 роки тому

    Can u tell.....induction cooktop is of which brand?

  • @bladelt1
    @bladelt1 3 роки тому +1

    now make it full bridge

  • @amkp40technology
    @amkp40technology 3 роки тому +1

    Nice 14:57:

  • @taharmouz8864
    @taharmouz8864 3 роки тому

    More complicated episode

  • @shayhsopwagqehghggtfyggty2635
    @shayhsopwagqehghggtfyggty2635 3 роки тому

    Can it work with 400V AC?

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 3 роки тому

      If you are talking about three phase, then yes in previous videos he explained it was a three phase - as many European stoves/ovens are.

    • @DiodeGoneWild
      @DiodeGoneWild  3 роки тому +1

      No, it's not 3 phase. It has 2 phases going into it, but each half uses one of them and neutral. It runs on 230V, not 400V. The components are not rated to run on 400V.

  • @morijitesh5923
    @morijitesh5923 3 роки тому

    Grate👍👍👍

  • @makspesic2869
    @makspesic2869 3 роки тому

    😃👏👍👍

  • @liudas5377
    @liudas5377 3 роки тому

    Hey, no cat shot?...

    • @DiodeGoneWild
      @DiodeGoneWild  3 роки тому

      the cat is at 7:31 :)

    • @englishrupe01
      @englishrupe01 3 роки тому

      He doesn't shoot cats....he only photographs them.....and he did that, yes :=)

  • @PreetPal2107
    @PreetPal2107 3 роки тому

    Well, no one do so much analysis as you doing bcoz girls and women knows about eating and cooking 😄😄

  • @Ka9radio_Mobile9
    @Ka9radio_Mobile9 3 роки тому

    Who needs math anyways. :-)

  • @savage101.
    @savage101. 3 роки тому +1

    What accent is that

  • @chelarestelar
    @chelarestelar 3 роки тому

    .

  • @peterpeper4837
    @peterpeper4837 3 роки тому +1

    Why do you speak like that?

    • @RobotN001
      @RobotN001 3 роки тому +2

      This is the best English from the Czech.

    • @dosgos
      @dosgos 3 роки тому +2

      Not really on point regarding this brilliant video.

    • @Paxmax
      @Paxmax 3 роки тому

      🤔 you mean english..? Hmmm.... Greater audience reach..? 🤔 ...😁