We really need these types of videos, Jarrod. These are such a great follow up videos after your reviews. The information they provide for better decision making to buy laptops is extremely important! I really wish to see more videos like this! Good luck, have a great day!
*phew* I started sweating when I first saw the title of this video because I JUST yesterday finally got my 17" 144hz screen, 11400H, RTX 3060, and 16gb RAM model in the mail after almost a month. Thankfully most of the stuff on this list didn't really end up worrying me haha.
Been using this laptop since last few months, it's great and hands down the best performing laptop, the sceen time of 6ms is something you will never notice, everything I have thrown at it works great! And the screen specially looks and feels premium and amazing.
I'm seriously considering the 17" 3070 or 6600m version of the Legion 5, but waiting to see if the delivery times drop from 4+ months to something sane, like 2 weeks.
I've had the Legion 5 for about two months now and I absolutely love it. Totally worth paying to upgrade from an old 2015 Helios 300. Don't think I have any major issues with it at all, it's everything I wanted in a nice package AND made it easy for me to add a second M.2 SSD and upgrade to 32 GB of RAM. Overall? Fantastic laptop, totally would recommend it.
@@ScallywagBeowulf I'm trying to decide on which one to get Lenovo Legion 5 15.6 in R7 16GB 1TB RTX3060 or Lenovo Legion 5 17.3in R7 16GB 512GB RTX3060
@@blackoutemzz2674 @Deacon Saint John They basically should be the same laptop. I'm unsure if they have different batteries or anything, but I think the only big difference would be how big the screen size, refresh rate, and possibly the overall look of the laptop. I personally have the 16" one (because I needed something portable for school still), so I think it mainly comes down to what you need it for and if this is something you're going to take places. Overall, the laptop should be similar, if not the same, regardless of screen size and what size storage drive it has.
Jarrod slowly revealing his true form with these thumbnails 😂 Jokes aside, not being able to control the fans or just fans spinning up doing 'idle' stuff is a giant deal breaker for any gaming laptop/workstation.
@@JarrodsLaptops Hello Sir! Please recommend me the best gaming laptop to date with the following specifications & requirements overall: • Display must be 17.3” QHD 1440p (higher refresh rate for gaming obviously) & has good colors as well • CPU should be powerful enough (up to you) • GPU should be RTX 3080 with 16 GB VRAM • RAM should be dual-channel and 32 GB (should be upgradeable) • Overall build quality must be excellent (solid & sturdy finish but material should be easily cleanable and does not leave greasy stains from hands etc.) • Battery should be decent like 6-7 hours (not gaming I game only plugged on) • Keyboard must be good & RGB per key • Weight should be light & not too heavy for portability • Thermals should be excellent for both GPU and CPU temps should remain under 85°C for extensive periods of gaming and should not suffer from thermal throttling at all • Excellent SSDs installed with higher speeds (should be upgradeable) • Excellent audio quality • Price is not an issue! Thank you.
@@xt355 I think your asking for a bit too much in a laptop. I mean that having a 3080 with a small form factor is only asking for high temps. The Asus s17 is probably your best bet if you don’t mind it being a bit beefy.
@@cyathoris7530 Hi! Which one out of the below mentioned choices would you recommend and why? Lenovo Legion 7i 6 Gen 16" Asus S17 Alienware X17 MSI GE76 Also, I would prefer advanced optimus
@@xt355I’m not an expert but I will give you some of my personal thoughts on these. The Lenovo legion 7i seems very good to me as the performance is great, decent battery life, nice build quality and well done rgb (if that’s your thing,) it also has a 16:10 aspect ratio screen which is very nice. only downside the Legion is that you get some slower x16 memory. This laptop comes with advanced optimus. The MSI GE76 is a good pick if you want the most elite gaming performance in a laptop. Although this is compromised with meh build quality and battery life. This laptop has a MUX switch. The Asus S17 is a good laptop with a good screen, nice build quality, ok battery life (6ish hours with normal use.) the only thing that’s holding me back from recommending this one is that the performance is a little lacking compared to the others as the 3080 only has a 140w power draw compared the others 165w power draw. I’ve also heard that there is this weird rattling sound when running from other reviewers. The Alienware X17 is also very good with some large overclocking head room, very solid build quality, decent battery life. Although the Asthetics aren’t for everyone. Pretty good gaming performance too. This laptop has advanced optimus. Overall, I would pick the Lenovo legion 7i as it is (in my opinion) the best all rounder. Although if you REALLY need that extra performance then I would go for the GE76
I chatted to a Lenovo representative and he said that in their stress-tests with a 230 watt power brick even the RTX 3060 version was draining it's battery, so they decided to provide all models with a 300 watt one, whether it's a legion 5 with a 3060 or Legion 7 with a 3080m. And yes, lack of fan control and them being loud at idle is a serious problem Lenovo needs to fix.
I have the 2021 Legion 5. Tip: Remove the plastic in the hinge. Its quite hard to remove but if youre gonna wait longer, the heat from the exhausts might make it even harder to remove. I've seen reviews of this laptop with the plastic still on.
4:12 I have the 2020 Legion 5. My touchpad is perfectly stiff and consistent throughout; the looseness is likely a QC issue like you've stated if that's the case.
@@rickmukherjee4380 depends on what you're going to do with it. I understand that Lenovo legions are better value for performance, but I'll still go with Asus m16 cause a really good screen, small size and light weight is extremely important for me. So if you need maximum performance for the buck, then I advise going with Lenovo. If screen and portability are really important for you, then go with Asus.
Thank you so much! With the price hikes due to shortages I've been looking for a good budget laptop that still won't sacrifice much of the power, and I think I've settled on Legion 5. Like you stated most of the problems can be alleviated and are pretty simple, so I think it's a deal for me.
@@Venomonomonom doesn't rlly matter to a lot of people so thats that's a u problem and you might as well do research on a laptop to see if it supports stuff you bought it for
I'm just glad more reviewers like Jarrod and Dave2d are honest when talking about certain features that the manufacturers are doing when they are selling laptops instead of just being shills for companies since they get review units. Hopefully laptop manufacturers should take the criticism instead of complaining because of the negative and honest feedback because the flaws that they are selling and try to improve on the next generation. I tried to post an honest of something that I bought from Amazon but it could not be posted just because I mentioned something negative about the experience that I purchase from Amazon and all I tried to do was hold Amazon accountable. More of these companies need to held accountable otherwise we are not getting what we are paying for. Oems are already switching ssds with inferior parts and lower quality parts and selling them to reviewers and consumers and not telling them about it.
I have a legion 5 and the touch pad is perfectly fine and my fans are never loud (it's almost dead quiet) even with intense gaming, i think your unit was just bad sadly.
Your reviews over laptops issues are really helpfull to the community. As ALL of them are poorly made in one aspect or another, and everyone has a series of different faults consumers have to deal with once they purchase one or the other
Here's a problem I have noticed that nobody seems to mention: there are A LOT of bricked Legions recently. Lenovo released a BIOS update and it fucked so many laptops it's insane. I had to get my motherboard replaced two times since I got the laptop. I have the Legion 5 non-Pro. A buddy with the Legion 7 16" also got his motherboard replaced as well due to this. Beware when buying Lenovo guys, they seem to do some very weird shit with their software.
No UA-camrs will tell this. I had similar issues with Redmibook laptop.But when I looked over the internet, I barely found a reddit threat speaking about it. Where a lot of people were having the same i issue.
I'm going to change from the Advantage Edition to the Legion 5 with 3060. 1. It's $450 cheaper ($1200 vs $1650) 2. It has better cooling (keeps the GPU cool and the surface cooler as well) 3. It has better RT performance (only about 9-10% slower than 6800M in Cyberpunk but faster with RT Medium) 4. It has less stability issues. My 6800M has already had AMD driver timeout issues and stuttering in some games. 5. It has MUX switch so you can do direct to dGPU even over HDMI (G15 AE requires you to use USB-C so the HDMI has hybrid which reduces performance)
shit I upgraded mine to a 32gb memory, and I saw a huge performance difference in my games. Which is very suprising knowing people say that ram does not matter.
ALL BRANDS have issues.........people literally complain about fucking $3000 ALIENWARES!! LMFAO........just pick something and fucking BUY it and shut up.
I’ve been loving this machine. I mainly use apple but decided to go PC this gen for gaming. I personally have very little to complain about with this machine. The power brick is huge but the touchpad leaves a lot to be desired. It isn’t very responsive and has dead clicking zones. I quickly paired a mouse and have avoided using it ever since.
After 2 weeks using it, the camera just shut down completely I went to the store and staff told me that I needed to take the laptop to Lenovo and have it check/repair 'cause it was hardware problems . At that time, I needed camera to conduct my online English sessions so I got to buy a seperate camera. And yeah, I didn't have spare time to get the laptop to Lenovo. During the time, I got several other problems such as losing the bluetooth driver repeatedly. And now, my Legion 5 cannot turn the screen on. So, after 6 months using it, I let the store's staff taking care of it and taking it to Lenovo Center.
I bought the Legion 5 15IAH7H with a RTX 3070 recently. I'm actually surprised to hear that the fan noise is an issue (I haven't run very many high performance games just yet). My previous laptop was a MSI GE63 8RF with a GTX 1070. It didn't matter what I ran on it, the fans on it sound like they're screaming as soon as it's plugged in. The biggest downside for me has been the lack of upgradable HDD because I have the bigger battery.
300W AC adapter is fantastic and really needed imo. This laptop actually offers rapid charging with from what I've seen can charge up the battery with up to 180W, which means you can easily use it and push it quite hard and still be able to recharge the battery within an hour or less.
@@Lingatsu as a dev who has also developed some importer plugins for several online shop manufacturers i can tell you that sometimes properties of a article or its variant can get mixed up if the importer has that kind of bug or if the importfile/service is already faulty in that regard. i guess that is the problem in this case ^^
Just ordered the Legion 5 with Ryzen 5 4600H, 1650 TI, 8 GB RAM and 1.2 TB of storage (256GB NVME SSD + 1TB HDD) for $699 on Walmart's early Black Friday deal. Looking forward to using this beast ☺️
In my usage, it ignored my palm on the touchpad anyways, but I mainly use an external keyboard and mouse now but I did try and use it as much as I could in the first week and it was fine
Got my Legion 5 in March 2021. I've been extremely satisfied with it as my daily work and play machine. However, after 2 years of active use and transportation, it has developed some quirks. The first thing to fail was my stock hard drive. After that, keyboard's function row began to die. The Esc key, F4 - F6, and left Alt key have stopped working. My E doesn't always work, either. (Important for gaming!) Since these control the most useful functions, like brightness, and Alt-Tabbing, it's disappointing to have to manually adjust these settings. Also, the LCD screen has suffered some burn-in. The bottom of the screen has permanent vertical streaks staining my view of the taskbar at all times, which itself leaves a slightly permanent shadow of its outline on the display. I still recommend it, as it has survived more than its fair share of travel (and moisture) over the last 3 years. I think if I can replace the bad keys, I would be happy to keep this machine for another 5 years. For other long term users, I recommend keeping your brightness down a notch, setting your taskbar to Auto-Hide, and picking a short delay for your screen saver! And always make regular backups of your data, no matter what you buy, because you never know! :) Good luck!
Jarrod I bought a Asus tuf a17 laptop. After realizing that it was a bad laptop I sold it and bought the legion 5 3060 5800h you have in the video. No matter what setting I picked the legion could not get the frames in valorant that the tuf a17 could get(3050 ti 5800h). I did a stress test and people in Dave2d server said that everything was fine when I showed them results. Why the heck is the tuf performing better with a 3050 ti? How???
Do you have same cpu as tuf? is yes maybe that piece of shit x16 ram is the reason for the crappy frame rates because jarrod say x16 low timing memory will seriously screwed up every cpu intensive games like valorant
I'm using that exact device for about 4 months. Though some might think you are going over really minor things, I have to say you summed the biggest issues pretty good. My device had 8 gb of slow ram and It was underperforming. I don't know if it is good or not in general, but I added another 8gb stick with faster timing and I got a really great performance uplift. Without removing the old and slow stick and just by adding a faster one alongside it. For the Linux wi-fi problem I have to say I installed Manjaro Linux from the first day I got the laptop and my wi-fi is working perfectly since that day. I don't have any ideas about ubuntu. Maybe it is related to the Kernel and new only versions have Legion 5's wi-fi driver. Manjaro Linux's kernel is updated as fast as any new release rolling out and Ubuntu gets updated less often. (In a fixed 6 month schedule to be precise) Other than that, the brick is heavy in itself and also the cable is one hell of a beasty cable! It is not a light package but I guess that is the price of one of the best performing 3060 laptops. Despite all of this, some Legion 5s like mine have a mediocre 120hz display. I'm not a big color accuracy lover and the display is fine in my opinion. But it could be a real problem for graphic designers and people who are more sensitive to color inaccuracy. In the end I absolutely love this laptop! I'm currently playing DOOM Eternal on ultra (high textures due to vram limitation but basically it makes no difference) with Ray Tracing and DLSS quality at constant 120fps. This machine is really really good as a powerful midrange gaming oriented laptop.
I don't see any of this as a problem but I prob shouldn't be talking seeing as I'm still using an hp 15 series from 2013 with a cracked screen and graphic drivers that I cant get to work
I have the Legion 5 3060 RTX, 120hz . Screen is bad, it actually is bad. The laptop has an annoying coil whine so I have to shut down every night before going to sleep, it's that annoying. The fans sometimes speed up when "idle" but actually it's "probably" because of windows background apps when I check in task manager sometimes, as far as I know. The (realtek) audio quality aren't good when using headphones (used 2 different headphones) and also the volume at max still isn't loud enough and when trying to maximise further it worsens the quality. The touchpad is awful. The left and right click buttons are part of the touchpad and it moves the cursor even when sliding on the very bottom of the buttons edges. I put velcro over the left click button area. Besides all this, the performance is amazing ._. That's not good enough, might as well buy a PC. If I could refund this laptop I'd just buy a PC or a more expensive gaming laptop.
That discord server looks like a life saver, i got the fans to 0 on idle after some dickin around with amd and bios versions. For me, legion 5 3070, i have no amd drivers, newest nvidia and i think the most recent bios with the level 0 thermal thing checked
@@jack5611 haven't used it much on that and it depends on settings. I play ultrawide 3440 on balanced for medium/hogh 100fps or 4k 60 on quiet. With the amount of frsmes its pumpin out ur never gon get a really quiet experience. In short, u trade settings for quietness
Lenovo confirmed in their official Legion discord that Fan Control will be coming in mid-2022(possibly alongside 2022 Legion's) It will include 2021,2020 models and maybe even 2019 models
I’ve had my Legion for a year plus some change. Had some trackpad issues and a screw just popped out on the bottom (guess the people who screwed it in striped the plastic), but overall I’ve had no major issues. Don’t really abuse my laptop, but I do like having quite a number of tabs open in Chrome and have noticed my RAM run pretty high playing a not that demanding game (in my opinion). New to really computers like this, so I’m not sure how to make it run better and find it a bit confusing, so I just try to close some apps and keep my stuff updated. The powerbrick can be hot when I’m using it and if it’s not plugged in it lasts maybe an hour and a half when gaming (even though the power estimate says 2hr30mins about). Still love it though and bought a SSD to try and help with storage
Thanks for the video! Realizing they took away the cool fan control feature from the previous model made me actually go with the previous version since I was less concerned with overall performance but balanced features. Noise and heat levels are too of my biggest concerns with a laptop. They were foolish to remove that cool shortcut fan control from the newer models. I see it as a downgrade I would not purchase.
Hmm I never noticed any heavy fan sounds for mine, it never even got burning hot either just alot of air you can feel blowing out but no sounds and I've been playing heavy games too
@@straivalist8281 same! mine is dead silent all the time lol im baffled seeing all these complaints about fan speed cause i feel like i never even know theres even fans on it thats how quiet they are lol
Bro I have legion 5 Gen 6 it works amazing when it's plugged in but when I use it on battery screen stutters/unstable fps on both games and movies How can I fix it?
the laptop have a lot of USB Ports, including a USB-C which can also be used with a dongle for more USB ports. I do think, the 300W is needed if more peripherals will be connected to it simultaneously.
Legion 5 17.3 here no touchpad issues. I did upgrade based on your last video. New Wifi Intel AX200 for $15 on ebay. New RAM 32GB dual channel. Thank you.
Decided on this laptop for my brother. Got an amazing deal at only 1300 euros. Was a pretty substantial improvement from his 750 ti and i3-4130. Great video btw! Oh and also, on his laptop he can press fn + q to change between 3 fan profiles. Must be a newer feature
@@LaboratorioInformatico i have the legion 5 and i have never had any issues or complaints with the fans. i honestly dont understand the complaints on the fans being too loud becuase i literally never even hear them! it is dead silent 98% of the time until i play a game then i can hear them but thats normal.
FN+Q changes the power plan from Eco, Auto to Max power. It doesn't directly control the fans, its just the fans get used more in the higher settings due to the extra performance from the selected profile.
Cheers! I've been looking for a new all-around laptop with some gaming capabilities for a while now and your reviews have been incredibly helpful in cutting through all the opinions and marketing BS out there. The Legion 5 is gonna be it.
I'm getting my Legion 5 this week, and I gotta say that if these are the biggest issues with it I'm going to be really happy. Big thanks to this channel for steering me towards the Legion 5, I nearly got a Tuf F-15 and I'd have been really dissatisfied. I'm hyped for the Legion 5
@@alvinfauzi5687 I've been looking at loads of different ones, watching loads of UA-cam videos and looking at loads of comparisons and benchmarks and the Legion 5 definitely looks like the best choice in that budget bracket
@@rmcf3972 had it about a year now and it's been an awesome laptop, bit noisy but gaming laptops normally are. It doesn't have enough power to hit 120fps to match the 120hz screen, but it's still more than enough for 60fps gaming on high settings. Not had a single issue with the WiFi personally
Well actually the issue with the touch pad is that , its too much left centric Me being a right-hander, it's difficult for me to left click in a comfortable position. Other than that, it's honestly a great touchpad, with basically no flex.
I'm glad you didn't mention the speakers like many other reviewers did. It's great Lenovo didn't bother with speaker sound considering how loud this gaming laptop can get. I think it's called DTV (design to value) whch helped to keep the price of this laptop very competitive.
I bought my Legion 5 last year and quite frankly it has none of these issues lmao. Mine has 230w charger, Intel AX200 wifi card, great 1RX8 ram, 144hz screen with good response time, solid touchpad etc.
Same with me. I got last year's model a few weeks ago, and everything is fine. The only problem is not being able to change the refresh rate from 144hz to 60hz, as it would boost battery life when on the go
@@guilhermemonteiro5032 I could limit the refresh rate to 60Hz through the nvidia control panel. But it’s kinda useless since it would disappear when I turn hybrid mode on
Thanks for this amazing video! I always like your no BS style of delivery, always straight on point. And thanks to this video, I think that legions arent for me, I've been thinking between Asus M16 and legion 5 or 5 pro and I think these problems pushed me further to M16. If I can ever buy one of them ofc.
@@JarrodsLaptops I've actually already seen this one, that's why I said about legions (in fact I watched all of your videos on m16 and legions on both channels) :) The thing is, that for me a thinner and lighter laptop is very important since I often carry it around, but the most important thing is the screen because I find 14" screens too small and need 15" minimum and I really wanted to find 2k 120+ fps but there is like 10 laptops with such specs. And comparing lenovo 5 pro screen with the M16 screen, lenovo loses pretty much with its not that amazing color ratings, brightness and response time. And its heavier (I'm not even talking about brick). Legion is a good performance machine when it sits at one place and you need it for heavy tasks. However, M16 is a good all round laptop, and I need exactly good all rounder that can do pretty much everything I want (productivity, content, playing games, etc), but packs it with an amazing screen and portability.
@@grihoriko8800 I was also going to get the m16 over the Legion but decided to get the Legion 7i 3070, because no mux switch and soldiered memory where huge deal breakers for me.
@@Shadowwe1 well, to each his own I guess. For me soldered ram is not a problem (I just want to get 16gig version and throw another 16 gig for double channel and Im good) and mux switch isn't a problem too cause I have a screen at home to play. My only 2 real concerns with M16 is that it gets really hot on the keyboard and blow hot air on the screen and a lot of people notice that its really loud. My problem with legion 7 however is that it is heavier, thicker, can have crappy memory (so I need to upgrade it entirely instead of throwing 1 stick), screen not as good as M16's and I like asus design a bit more. Btw how is Legion 7 doing for you? How is the screen and portability and build quality? Was there any problems with touchpad or screen bleed?
Yep, the availability is spot on. Not only lenovo legion, but also hp omen is antoher laptop that is very hard to buy because it is so rare. Here in my country (Indonesia), the official distributor for hp omen and lenovo legion both said that "hopefully" it will be back in stock in early November
Don't think I've used the Omen too much extra just yet to have anything additional to add, but I'm using it for 5600H vs 5800H so we'll see what happens!
I have a late 2023 Lenovo Legion 5i. Using Lenovo Vantage software it is possible to adjust fan speeds. You click on Thermal Mode in the main screen. That takes you to Performance Mode/Balance Mode/Quiet Mode/Custom Mode. Custom Mode allows you to control the fan speeds for the other three modes, unfortunately you cannot lower the fan speeds, only raise them. Fn + Q will also toggle between the Modes. Personally I found tweaking fan speeds in Balance Mode and ticking the option to Enable Legion AI Engine dropped my temperatures by almost 15C. It will depend on what games you play. I am not a competitive FPS player and generally play isometric turn based games like Baldurs Gate 3 and Jagged Alliance 3, so the variable cpu clock speeds that this setting gives is not noticeable.
I have the same specs 2021 Legion 5. I'm pretty happy with everything so far. My biggest gripes are the huge power brick, as I am a student. I get about 3 hours of battery life so I always need to bring that power brick around everywhere. Actually for my unit, my touchpad is pretty sturdy, but sometimes it inputs a left click instead of a right click, so not sure if that's a consistent problem. Otherwise very happy with what I bought. I actually don't hear any fan noise unless I have a game running. Even in a quite environment and I'm taking a test, I don't anything. Maybe just my ears.
@@yankeewog How can that be a software setting if there's clearly a mechanical click when pressing down ? He was clearly not referring to touching the touchpad since you can't right click by doing that...
Been using my legion 5 pro daily at work for 1.4 years now straight. I absolutely love this laptop. Could it be better ? Sure. For the price I’m glad I gave it a try after 25 + alienwares over the last 15 or so years. What I wanted : 1600p screen. Since the original 19x1200p 17 I’ve despised 1080 and widescreen screens. Alienware at the time had none. Power plug at the rear . Heavy thick cable stays out of the way when I use it on my lap or on the table. Ports on the rear but wanted a usb for a wireless mouse on the right side. Thus is from 2009 memories of a unibody MacBook 17 that had it on the left side and the metal of the chassis interfered with the signal 💀. Use the port on the rear for the usb end and works great and looks great out of the way. Keyboard. Absolutely great spacing and layout of keys especially f1 keys. This is unique to me and I’m actually frustrated playing level 2600+ arena in wow I’m finding I’m having more misclicks and key issues on my $300 desktop keyboard vs the fantastic keyboard on this legion 5 pro 🥲. Happy that I can put it into balance and low power modes easily and have more than an hour to tune my m4 and flash the computer multiple times without worrying about the battery life. I definitely couldn’t do this with my 18xr3 with dual 980ms which gave me about 300 seconds 🤣 I use an m2 skin and used a hair dryer moved the ugly stickers on the palm rest to the bottom and used a dark skin on the palm rest and I used a white skin on the outer lid which looks absolutely amazing with the legion tri star. I think legion dropped the ball on going away from the logo . It looks amazing and I’m happy I got the model with it. As an Alienware fanboi it adds just enough style 👌. I do wish the chassis and palm rest area was metal but for the price totally acceptable. I wish there was a way to have the screen go to 60hz and an ultra power savings mode to at least extend unplugged life then it would be even better.
one day one RAM slot stops working, black scree, after I was able to isolate the issue that removing memory from lower slot and laptop works just fine, how come this happens after 2 years all was good with 2 slots/RAM/ and now I dont know how to fix this looks like this is a common issue - factory fault, maybe Lenovo should fix this free of charge?
Companies will never be able to impress people no matter how much effort they put in their product. Everything about Legion 5 Pro is perfect including the big brick like adapter. They all have a purpose if we look at performance of this laptop.
it's far from perfect. It has no fan control(a must for a gaming laptop), no voltage control even in BIOS(MSI and HP have it), with battery charge limit for prolonging it's lifespan you can only choose 60%, not the optimal 80% like others offer. It's very close to perfection but unfortunately Lenovo screwed it for enthusiasts.
Lithium batteries optimum charge for storage is around 60%. Look it up. Other brands use 80 because the users usually forget to fully charge it before disconnecting and then they would be left with a 60% battery. So they will eventually turn off this feature. Voltage control is not necessary in my opinion since its gpu (mine 3070) runs at true 130watt limit, not like in the gigabyte laptop or hp omen.
@@zsoca31 umm what? 1. 80% is the perfect balance between capacity and longevity. My 11-year old Samsung laptop with the limit of 80% still has like 50-60% of original capacity. It's the last 20% that are the most harmful for the battery. Yes it's optimial to keep the battery charged at 40-50%(not 60), but in case you need to use your laptop suddenly you'd have to spend time to charge it, it's very inconvinient to switch back and forth between 60 and 100% to reach needed capacity. Others offer 60 or 80% choice, heck with Dell you can select the EXACT percentage, ranging from 55 to 100%. 2. Voltage control is definitely needed in gaming laptops. They often reach 90+ degrees in heavy loads(some heavy games included) and throttle, with undervolting not only you lower temps, you also get more performance back, limited by laptop formfactor. 3. What does GPU wattage have to do with it? I was talking about CPU undervolting, unlike HP and MSI, Lenovo don't allow it on their Legion 5 and 5 pro. CPU is what gets the hottest. Besides, voltage control on Nvidia GPU-s have been available on all laptops since 1000 series via MSI Afterburner.
@@TabalugaDragon I have balance charged and soldered Lithium battery cells, and i will take 60% over 80% anytime. Thats Nice If you can select the exact percentage in dells. 2. I think lenovos cooling is superior to most brands, you can play with voltages and fans but you will never get good temperatures If the case is too slim or the fans or pipes etc are bad. There is so many fucked up designs and component combinations that I am just happy if my gpu/cpu works as the manufacturer intended. You are right though, voltage control should be an option. But I find the display a much bigger issue. The market is flooded with bad display panels and its basically a lottery which exact panel you get in your box. i guess what was laying around in the factory at that time.
The biggest problems I have with this laptop are the low quality speakers and the lack of wake on lan. Thank God I was able to upgrade the sound by installing equalizer APO.
great reviews Jarrod, I appreciate it. I can't seem to find a Legion 5 with 32gb's of ram, I wish they would ship with 32gb because I seem to like everything else to use for Blender/Photoshop/Photo Editing. thx again.
Just bought my Lenovo Legion 5 - AMD Ryzen 7 - 16GB - 1TB - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB is it any good? It's my first gaming laptop and totally know nothing..
Touchscreen was also veeeery slightly loose for me. But the biggest "problem" for me was the volume. In my last laptop I was sitting comfortably on 32-40% volume most of the time, but on Legion I had to bump it to 52-60% to achieve the same effect.
The perfect gaming laptop is developers moving to Macs: Performance unplugged, better screens, airpods as excellent headsets, doesn't get hot, decent keyboard. Hopefully Qualcomm can come in and save us.
I'm watching this on a brand new Legion 5. I have the same config with 5600 & 3060 and ended up with the Realtek card. Curiously enough I do have 3 levels of fan control accessible either the bundled lenovo software, or with fn+Q shortcut. The trackpad is uniformly stiff on both sides.
Lenovo did improve it since 2019 a lot. Unlike Acer. Back in 2019 I watched your reviews on the Legion Y530 (I think it was or the Legion 5, not sure) and Predator 300. I choose the Predator and that laptop has been faultless. So to sum it up 2019 - Predator 300. 2020 - Legion 5. They made some much needed upgrades. 2021 seem kinda of a downgrade for both companies as far as I can see.
Hi Jarrod, firstly thank you for all your videos rgd the notebook RTX comparisons. Greetings from Singapore - I've owned the Legion 5 Pro since APR'21, and only recently I bought myself a Legion 5 with Ryzen 7 5800H/ RTX3060 but the power brick that came with it is now 230W and 1/3 the size vs the 300W brick on the 5 Pro. The 230W brick was manufactured JUN'21.
Hey Jarrod, Last week ive picked up my Legion 5 with a 5600h and rtx 3060, I love it. Im going to upgrade my 8gb of ram to 16gb x8 ram. should make a big difference. The trackpad is completely fine on my model. and the best thing is I paid only 850$ for it while it was on sale. However I find that the 300w power brick is indeed quite big
@@XxSupErBoBxX23 sorry for the late reply, i haven't done any 1440p gaming yet, since I'm running a 1080p monitor. But on some games with 150% resolution scaling it works really great honestly. Only issue I had with it was the big power brick and the 8gb of ram, that I upgraded now
does anyone have the issue when they're playing a game in fullscreen and theres something in the background going on like idk watching a yt video the game in fullscreen locks at 60fps?
Hello Sir! Please recommend me the best gaming laptop to date with the following specifications & requirements overall: • Display must be 17.3” QHD 1440p (higher refresh rate for gaming obviously) & has good colors as well • CPU should be powerful enough (up to you) • GPU should be RTX 3080 with 16 GB VRAM • RAM should be dual-channel and 32 GB (should be upgradeable) • Overall build quality must be excellent (solid & sturdy finish but material should be easily cleanable and does not leave greasy stains from hands etc.) • Battery should be decent like 6-7 hours (not gaming I game only plugged on) • Keyboard must be good & RGB per key • Weight should be light & not too heavy for portability • Thermals should be excellent for both GPU and CPU temps should remain under 85°C for extensive periods of gaming and should not suffer from thermal throttling at all • Excellent SSDs installed with higher speeds (should be upgradeable) • Excellent audio quality • Price is not an issue! Thank you.
I have legion 5 as well. I think for the lower model which I'm currently using (ryzen 5 with 1650ti) the fan noise isn't really an issue. But I'm still hoping they add fan control on lenovo vantage.
Pretty OOT but i really wanna see u collab with the big dogs like LTT
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The 3060 has a peak power of around 135W, the R7 can have 65W plus LCD, SSD, WiFi, etc. 230W is at the limit of what can be safely handled. Other laptops have lower specs in the 90 - 110W range at peak. My Zephyrus G15 has a 180W power brick, but has the R7 HS and 2060 MQ. Good video, thank you.
Got the 17 legion 5 3070 ryzen 7 5800H 16gb Ram 1TB SSD when it was $1150 from Lenovo, still waiting to be shipped but thinking if i should keep. I have the msi gs75 2070 maxp currently. Should I keep my current laptop or the legion 5?
Just bought a bunch of Legion 5s - with RTX 3070! - getting consistent 53-54mh/s on ETH while only sucking 138Watts out of the wall-outlet - measured! Nice! 2 of them about same level of a RTX 3090 - @ 109mh/s.
What would you choose between Legion 5 5800/3060 or Omen 15 5800/3070? Everything else is same. MUX does not matter for me because I'll be mainly using it with an external screen.
I would like to clarify on the first point you stated. Complaining about 300w brick is a bit pointless, considering the Lenovo is the only laptop having 130w 3060. But yes, the brick makes it unportable. This being said, if you want portability go buy a 40-65w USB c power brick. It's enough to power the laptop for office work without hybrid mode being on ( 3060 always on).
Legion 5 is plagued from start with manufacturing issues like over heating, slower random ram and many screens even have dead pixels out of the box. i love your videos and went for legion just because of them, but now really think i should have gone asus or alien ware
I have my Legion 5 5800h and 3060 for about a week, after watching all your videos on it. The 2 downsides I have is: Battery - granted, is a lot smaller than the one you have, my battery looks like it left room for a 2.5" SSD, though there's no option to add one Networking in general - Either over ethernet or Wifi, my network seems to max out at 11.8mb, no matter where I download from, or if it's wifi or ethernet. The odd thing is, is that it can do more, but "shows" me that it's only doing this amount. For example, on any speed test site it tells me my upload is 0.3mb, but I can stream to UA-cam at 15mbps not a problem, so i'm not sure what the software is doing to give it this. I've disabled all networking options that could cause it in Vantage, but I've just learned to deal with it's quirks, hoping that there may be an update down the line, and as you mention, updating the wifi card will really help. All in all, I'm happy enough, I got this model with a 120hz screen and 8gb ram (upgraded that, too) for €1099, which was also the cheapest gaming laptop the store had with an RTX card, but was also the best laptop in the store from what I saw on the specsheets. Thank you for showing me this laptop, I'll always be appreciative of it
I bought it when it was released and had to return it a few days after as the WiFi was terrible. I had the most inconsistent / high pings while gaming (mine had the Intel card)…
Hi Bobby, İ got a question for you. İ dont have lenovo but i got tuf a15 i have some ping issues in csgo,i mean lovest ping i get in cs is 70. But i play csgo while cat-5 cable pluged in. Do you think that if i switch vifi card it will decrease my ping?
This could be because of Intel's KillerWifi settings - I turned that off and used regular wifi and it worked for mine. I have kept that off forever now, as it just messes with the speeds.
Hello and greetings Jarrod . im one of lenovo 5 user from Malaysia. These are my feedback of using lenovo 5 Rtx3060 Amd Ryzen 7 5800H for a month. - touchpad is okay. I didnt notice any loose part of the touchpad and my unit has a responsive touchpad. - my unit has a realtek wifi card. So it should pose a problem of lagging when playing games or surfing the web. It may be slow in loading the site but i didnt see any sudden drops in the internet latency. - My unit uses a slower SK Hynix RAM ( 16GB single rank i think ) but i didnt changed it to a newer RAM as I was short on money. However , getting a 100fps in every game is still considered a great deal for me as i didnt play much games. - this unit comes with 300W brick. I have no issues at the moment as im currently working from home. However it may cause an extra weight if im gonna use it outstation. - mine has 165hz screen. Colour is accurate, brightness is same as your findings. No issue so far for me. - for fan speed issue, i didnt hear noises from fan when im using quiet mode . It only goes to fighter jet mode when i turned on performance mode and the jet fan noise can be heard quite loud but not too annoying to me. Thank you Jarrod for highlighting these issues. It helps me aware of my unit more. 👍
He didn't talk about the SATA slot where you have to choose whether you want to install a SATA drive or an M.2 drive. I think that was the worst part of this laptop. You should be able to attach in both drives not choose one.
i have a legion five and the touchpad is perfectly fine for me so it was likely just a problem with your legion 5 specifically. Kinda unfortunate for you but what are you gonna do
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We really need these types of videos, Jarrod. These are such a great follow up videos after your reviews. The information they provide for better decision making to buy laptops is extremely important! I really wish to see more videos like this! Good luck, have a great day!
I agree, very essential for the average consumer
Yess we rarely see follow up videos!! We need more of those!
Bro I have legion 5 Gen 6
Screen starts stuttering on battery while playing games and watching movies
Can you tell me how to fix it?
@@n3me51s2 I have an Asus VivoBook and it does the same. Even I am struggling with it. I don't know how to fix them, sorry.
@@thedevranaofficial 👍👍
*phew* I started sweating when I first saw the title of this video because I JUST yesterday finally got my 17" 144hz screen, 11400H, RTX 3060, and 16gb RAM model in the mail after almost a month. Thankfully most of the stuff on this list didn't really end up worrying me haha.
Been using this laptop since last few months, it's great and hands down the best performing laptop, the sceen time of 6ms is something you will never notice, everything I have thrown at it works great! And the screen specially looks and feels premium and amazing.
@Aj Uzumaki yes, mine most certainly is. It probably just depends what region you're buying from but not sure 🤷🏼♂️
@Aj Uzumaki 17 inch version has 144hz
I'm seriously considering the 17" 3070 or 6600m version of the Legion 5, but waiting to see if the delivery times drop from 4+ months to something sane, like 2 weeks.
Where did you get your legion 5?
I've had the Legion 5 for about two months now and I absolutely love it. Totally worth paying to upgrade from an old 2015 Helios 300. Don't think I have any major issues with it at all, it's everything I wanted in a nice package AND made it easy for me to add a second M.2 SSD and upgrade to 32 GB of RAM. Overall? Fantastic laptop, totally would recommend it.
2020 or 21?
@@orleu_sko 2021 version
How’s the battery life? Ill mainly use it for school and programming since im a computer science student
@@ScallywagBeowulf
I'm trying to decide on which one to get
Lenovo Legion 5 15.6 in R7 16GB 1TB RTX3060
or
Lenovo Legion 5 17.3in R7 16GB 512GB RTX3060
@@blackoutemzz2674 @Deacon Saint John They basically should be the same laptop. I'm unsure if they have different batteries or anything, but I think the only big difference would be how big the screen size, refresh rate, and possibly the overall look of the laptop. I personally have the 16" one (because I needed something portable for school still), so I think it mainly comes down to what you need it for and if this is something you're going to take places. Overall, the laptop should be similar, if not the same, regardless of screen size and what size storage drive it has.
Jarrod slowly revealing his true form with these thumbnails 😂
Jokes aside, not being able to control the fans or just fans spinning up doing 'idle' stuff is a giant deal breaker for any gaming laptop/workstation.
This isn't even my final form
@@JarrodsLaptops Hello Sir! Please recommend me the best gaming laptop to date with the following specifications & requirements overall:
• Display must be 17.3” QHD 1440p (higher refresh rate for gaming obviously) & has good colors as well
• CPU should be powerful enough (up to you)
• GPU should be RTX 3080 with 16 GB VRAM
• RAM should be dual-channel and 32 GB (should be upgradeable)
• Overall build quality must be excellent (solid & sturdy finish but material should be easily cleanable and does not leave greasy stains from hands etc.)
• Battery should be decent like 6-7 hours (not gaming I game only plugged on)
• Keyboard must be good & RGB per key
• Weight should be light & not too heavy for portability
• Thermals should be excellent for both GPU and CPU temps should remain under 85°C for extensive periods of gaming and should not suffer from thermal throttling at all
• Excellent SSDs installed with higher speeds (should be upgradeable)
• Excellent audio quality
• Price is not an issue!
Thank you.
@@xt355 I think your asking for a bit too much in a laptop. I mean that having a 3080 with a small form factor is only asking for high temps. The Asus s17 is probably your best bet if you don’t mind it being a bit beefy.
@@cyathoris7530 Hi! Which one out of the below mentioned choices would you recommend and why?
Lenovo Legion 7i 6 Gen 16"
Asus S17
Alienware X17
MSI GE76
Also, I would prefer advanced optimus
@@xt355I’m not an expert but I will give you some of my personal thoughts on these. The Lenovo legion 7i seems very good to me as the performance is great, decent battery life, nice build quality and well done rgb (if that’s your thing,) it also has a 16:10 aspect ratio screen which is very nice. only downside the Legion is that you get some slower x16 memory. This laptop comes with advanced optimus. The MSI GE76 is a good pick if you want the most elite gaming performance in a laptop. Although this is compromised with meh build quality and battery life. This laptop has a MUX switch. The Asus S17 is a good laptop with a good screen, nice build quality, ok battery life (6ish hours with normal use.) the only thing that’s holding me back from recommending this one is that the performance is a little lacking compared to the others as the 3080 only has a 140w power draw compared the others 165w power draw. I’ve also heard that there is this weird rattling sound when running from other reviewers. The Alienware X17 is also very good with some large overclocking head room, very solid build quality, decent battery life. Although the Asthetics aren’t for everyone. Pretty good gaming performance too. This laptop has advanced optimus. Overall, I would pick the Lenovo legion 7i as it is (in my opinion) the best all rounder. Although if you REALLY need that extra performance then I would go for the GE76
I bought the 3070 version recently for a great deal, and I’m glad I watched this as most of the negatives don’t bother me so I’m in the clear here.
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your buy a Lenovo 5pro 15IAH7H?
Are you talking about i7 12th gen , legion 5 pro from bestbuy?
@@rathan7942 yes
Whats its battery life like?
I chatted to a Lenovo representative and he said that in their stress-tests with a 230 watt power brick even the RTX 3060 version was draining it's battery, so they decided to provide all models with a 300 watt one, whether it's a legion 5 with a 3060 or Legion 7 with a 3080m.
And yes, lack of fan control and them being loud at idle is a serious problem Lenovo needs to fix.
Mine came with a 300 Watt power brick lol
@@Moon-lk8uc well, that's what I just said, they provide everyone with a 300 watt power brick no matter the model this year
that's a fair reason tbh
if even the legion drains battery with 230watt, a 3070 omen 15 with 200watts would completely drain then. Shouldn't be good for the battery.
Do you recommend getting legion 5 17 inches or legion 5pro 16 inches both with rtx 3060. Thanks
I have the 2021 Legion 5. Tip: Remove the plastic in the hinge. Its quite hard to remove but if youre gonna wait longer, the heat from the exhausts might make it even harder to remove. I've seen reviews of this laptop with the plastic still on.
Plastic?
@@jack5611 feels like the plastic you remove on the edges of your phone, or the bezels of a tv or monitor
Yes, it's very hard to remove this plastic film on the hinge (20 minutes). I don't understand why they put one here (Legion 5 17ACH6H)
Yes as soon as we get we should remove it later it's difficult
4:12 I have the 2020 Legion 5. My touchpad is perfectly stiff and consistent throughout; the looseness is likely a QC issue like you've stated if that's the case.
should i buy lenovo or asus laptop
I have the same model, absolutely no problems with the touchpad
Same, I have the exact model except with 1tb SSD and the touchpad is fine
@@rickmukherjee4380 1000% lenovo
@@rickmukherjee4380 depends on what you're going to do with it.
I understand that Lenovo legions are better value for performance, but I'll still go with Asus m16 cause a really good screen, small size and light weight is extremely important for me.
So if you need maximum performance for the buck, then I advise going with Lenovo.
If screen and portability are really important for you, then go with Asus.
Thank you so much! With the price hikes due to shortages I've been looking for a good budget laptop that still won't sacrifice much of the power, and I think I've settled on Legion 5. Like you stated most of the problems can be alleviated and are pretty simple, so I think it's a deal for me.
It doesn't support 120hz 4K :( they admitted it to a customer in an email but that's it. Bs
@@Venomonomonom doesn't rlly matter to a lot of people so thats that's a u problem and you might as well do research on a laptop to see if it supports stuff you bought it for
2 years after, I want to know how that worked out.. Cos I'm fixed on it.. And I hope you reply
I'm just glad more reviewers like Jarrod and Dave2d are honest when talking about certain features that the manufacturers are doing when they are selling laptops instead of just being shills for companies since they get review units. Hopefully laptop manufacturers should take the criticism instead of complaining because of the negative and honest feedback because the flaws that they are selling and try to improve on the next generation. I tried to post an honest of something that I bought from Amazon but it could not be posted just because I mentioned something negative about the experience that I purchase from Amazon and all I tried to do was hold Amazon accountable. More of these companies need to held accountable otherwise we are not getting what we are paying for. Oems are already switching ssds with inferior parts and lower quality parts and selling them to reviewers and consumers and not telling them about it.
I have a legion 5 and the touch pad is perfectly fine and my fans are never loud (it's almost dead quiet) even with intense gaming, i think your unit was just bad sadly.
What rtx card do you have 3050 or 3060?
@@zzz-cb3xe I have the 1660ti model personally, sorry it’s not the answer you wanted
@@deadphilix1671 that's good to know
I had legion 5 1660ti model and my touchpad was not even. The right side was lower. 😮 But the laptop was ok and it had a great performance.
Mine is same as yours
“Your never going to find a perfect laptop” -Jarrod, so true maybe one day there will be.
We'll see, then I'll be out of a job haha
Your reviews over laptops issues are really helpfull to the community. As ALL of them are poorly made in one aspect or another, and everyone has a series of different faults consumers have to deal with once they purchase one or the other
Here's a problem I have noticed that nobody seems to mention: there are A LOT of bricked Legions recently. Lenovo released a BIOS update and it fucked so many laptops it's insane. I had to get my motherboard replaced two times since I got the laptop. I have the Legion 5 non-Pro. A buddy with the Legion 7 16" also got his motherboard replaced as well due to this. Beware when buying Lenovo guys, they seem to do some very weird shit with their software.
No UA-camrs will tell this. I had similar issues with Redmibook laptop.But when I looked over the internet, I barely found a reddit threat speaking about it. Where a lot of people were having the same i issue.
It has bios flashback functionality mate, is mobo replacement really necessary?
I'm going to change from the Advantage Edition to the Legion 5 with 3060.
1. It's $450 cheaper ($1200 vs $1650)
2. It has better cooling (keeps the GPU cool and the surface cooler as well)
3. It has better RT performance (only about 9-10% slower than 6800M in Cyberpunk but faster with RT Medium)
4. It has less stability issues. My 6800M has already had AMD driver timeout issues and stuttering in some games.
5. It has MUX switch so you can do direct to dGPU even over HDMI (G15 AE requires you to use USB-C so the HDMI has hybrid which reduces performance)
shit I upgraded mine to a 32gb memory, and I saw a huge performance difference in my games. Which is very suprising knowing people say that ram does not matter.
Upgraded from 16gb to 32gb?
ALL BRANDS have issues.........people literally complain about fucking $3000 ALIENWARES!! LMFAO........just pick something and fucking BUY it and shut up.
I’ve been loving this machine. I mainly use apple but decided to go PC this gen for gaming. I personally have very little to complain about with this machine. The power brick is huge but the touchpad leaves a lot to be desired. It isn’t very responsive and has dead clicking zones. I quickly paired a mouse and have avoided using it ever since.
After 2 weeks using it, the camera just shut down completely I went to the store and staff told me that I needed to take the laptop to Lenovo and have it check/repair 'cause it was hardware problems . At that time, I needed camera to conduct my online English sessions so I got to buy a seperate camera. And yeah, I didn't have spare time to get the laptop to Lenovo.
During the time, I got several other problems such as losing the bluetooth driver repeatedly.
And now, my Legion 5 cannot turn the screen on. So, after 6 months using it, I let the store's staff taking care of it and taking it to Lenovo Center.
On the Lenovo website, you can configure the power brick to be the 230W version instead of the 300W one
I bought the Legion 5 15IAH7H with a RTX 3070 recently. I'm actually surprised to hear that the fan noise is an issue (I haven't run very many high performance games just yet). My previous laptop was a MSI GE63 8RF with a GTX 1070. It didn't matter what I ran on it, the fans on it sound like they're screaming as soon as it's plugged in. The biggest downside for me has been the lack of upgradable HDD because I have the bigger battery.
So, does the fan get loud in idle as mentioned in the video?
@@syafiqasyraf_yt No, not at all. It's only loud when I start a game.
300W AC adapter is fantastic and really needed imo. This laptop actually offers rapid charging with from what I've seen can charge up the battery with up to 180W, which means you can easily use it and push it quite hard and still be able to recharge the battery within an hour or less.
Also the 230watt charger drained my battery a lot (legion 5i pro)
How to have a 300W ac adapter if it's a 230W that come with the laptop ?
@@Lingatsu only the 3050s editions have got 230w as far as i know. 3060 and above come with 300w ac
@@sulliwan it's strange because on the website i ordered (Cdiscount) it's written 230W and it's a 3060
@@Lingatsu as a dev who has also developed some importer plugins for several online shop manufacturers i can tell you that sometimes properties of a article or its variant can get mixed up if the importer has that kind of bug or if the importfile/service is already faulty in that regard. i guess that is the problem in this case ^^
Just ordered the Legion 5 with Ryzen 5 4600H, 1650 TI, 8 GB RAM and 1.2 TB of storage (256GB NVME SSD + 1TB HDD) for $699 on Walmart's early Black Friday deal. Looking forward to using this beast ☺️
I'm looking to buy the same one lmao. In India it costs over $900
@@aradhyajha6422 I'm sure find one on sale eventually somewhere (fellow US-raised Indian here 😁)
u got very good deal man...VERY
Surprised how you didn't mention the small palm rest area, I've seen it be a deal breaker for many
In my usage, it ignored my palm on the touchpad anyways, but I mainly use an external keyboard and mouse now but I did try and use it as much as I could in the first week and it was fine
I guess I haven't felt that it was small, despite my somewhat large hands.
Yeah my hand is half resting on the trackpad, which isn't nice. You can turn off the trackpad in the legion software tho, so it mitigates the problem
Got my Legion 5 in March 2021. I've been extremely satisfied with it as my daily work and play machine. However, after 2 years of active use and transportation, it has developed some quirks. The first thing to fail was my stock hard drive. After that, keyboard's function row began to die. The Esc key, F4 - F6, and left Alt key have stopped working. My E doesn't always work, either. (Important for gaming!) Since these control the most useful functions, like brightness, and Alt-Tabbing, it's disappointing to have to manually adjust these settings. Also, the LCD screen has suffered some burn-in. The bottom of the screen has permanent vertical streaks staining my view of the taskbar at all times, which itself leaves a slightly permanent shadow of its outline on the display.
I still recommend it, as it has survived more than its fair share of travel (and moisture) over the last 3 years. I think if I can replace the bad keys, I would be happy to keep this machine for another 5 years. For other long term users, I recommend keeping your brightness down a notch, setting your taskbar to Auto-Hide, and picking a short delay for your screen saver! And always make regular backups of your data, no matter what you buy, because you never know! :)
Good luck!
Same thing with me... Death after two years
Never again
Jarrod I bought a Asus tuf a17 laptop. After realizing that it was a bad laptop I sold it and bought the legion 5 3060 5800h you have in the video. No matter what setting I picked the legion could not get the frames in valorant that the tuf a17 could get(3050 ti 5800h). I did a stress test and people in Dave2d server said that everything was fine when I showed them results. Why the heck is the tuf performing better with a 3050 ti? How???
How gig is your ram?
@@shadowofintent9393 16
Do you have same cpu as tuf? is yes maybe that piece of shit x16 ram is the reason for the crappy frame rates because jarrod say x16 low timing memory will seriously screwed up every cpu intensive games like valorant
@@mrbobgamingmemes9558 hmmm
@@mrbobgamingmemes9558 so if I got x8 that means it will run val a lot better?
I'm using that exact device for about 4 months.
Though some might think you are going over really minor things, I have to say you summed the biggest issues pretty good.
My device had 8 gb of slow ram and It was underperforming. I don't know if it is good or not in general, but I added another 8gb stick with faster timing and I got a really great performance uplift. Without removing the old and slow stick and just by adding a faster one alongside it.
For the Linux wi-fi problem I have to say I installed Manjaro Linux from the first day I got the laptop and my wi-fi is working perfectly since that day. I don't have any ideas about ubuntu. Maybe it is related to the Kernel and new only versions have Legion 5's wi-fi driver. Manjaro Linux's kernel is updated as fast as any new release rolling out and Ubuntu gets updated less often. (In a fixed 6 month schedule to be precise)
Other than that, the brick is heavy in itself and also the cable is one hell of a beasty cable! It is not a light package but I guess that is the price of one of the best performing 3060 laptops.
Despite all of this, some Legion 5s like mine have a mediocre 120hz display. I'm not a big color accuracy lover and the display is fine in my opinion. But it could be a real problem for graphic designers and people who are more sensitive to color inaccuracy.
In the end I absolutely love this laptop! I'm currently playing DOOM Eternal on ultra (high textures due to vram limitation but basically it makes no difference) with Ray Tracing and DLSS quality at constant 120fps. This machine is really really good as a powerful midrange gaming oriented laptop.
you got 120hz instead of 165hz which is marketed?
You still liking it? Btw any point on thermals? Maybe do you use a stand?
I don't see any of this as a problem
but I prob shouldn't be talking seeing as I'm still using an hp 15 series from 2013 with a cracked screen and graphic drivers that I cant get to work
I have the Legion 5 3060 RTX, 120hz . Screen is bad, it actually is bad.
The laptop has an annoying coil whine so I have to shut down every night before going to sleep, it's that annoying.
The fans sometimes speed up when "idle" but actually it's "probably" because of windows background apps when I check in task manager sometimes, as far as I know.
The (realtek) audio quality aren't good when using headphones (used 2 different headphones) and also the volume at max still isn't loud enough and when trying to maximise further it worsens the quality.
The touchpad is awful. The left and right click buttons are part of the touchpad and it moves the cursor even when sliding on the very bottom of the buttons edges. I put velcro over the left click button area.
Besides all this, the performance is amazing ._.
That's not good enough, might as well buy a PC. If I could refund this laptop I'd just buy a PC or a more expensive gaming laptop.
Bro I have legion 5 Gen 6
Screen starts stuttering on battery while playing games and watching movies
Can you tell me how to fix it?
That discord server looks like a life saver, i got the fans to 0 on idle after some dickin around with amd and bios versions. For me, legion 5 3070, i have no amd drivers, newest nvidia and i think the most recent bios with the level 0 thermal thing checked
Hey bra.Is the 3070 version loud on performance mode?
@@jack5611 haven't used it much on that and it depends on settings. I play ultrawide 3440 on balanced for medium/hogh 100fps or 4k 60 on quiet. With the amount of frsmes its pumpin out ur never gon get a really quiet experience. In short, u trade settings for quietness
@@Albinamo Can you tell me how to set the fans to 0 on idle please ?
Lenovo confirmed in their official Legion discord that Fan Control will be coming in mid-2022(possibly alongside 2022 Legion's) It will include 2021,2020 models and maybe even 2019 models
Niceeee, please can you givre the discord lenovo link . Thanks you
Lol still didn't get fan control in 2023
I’ve had my Legion for a year plus some change. Had some trackpad issues and a screw just popped out on the bottom (guess the people who screwed it in striped the plastic), but overall I’ve had no major issues. Don’t really abuse my laptop, but I do like having quite a number of tabs open in Chrome and have noticed my RAM run pretty high playing a not that demanding game (in my opinion). New to really computers like this, so I’m not sure how to make it run better and find it a bit confusing, so I just try to close some apps and keep my stuff updated. The powerbrick can be hot when I’m using it and if it’s not plugged in it lasts maybe an hour and a half when gaming (even though the power estimate says 2hr30mins about). Still love it though and bought a SSD to try and help with storage
This laptop is my top pick to buy with my budget and after watching this video I'm actually strangely encouraged to just go with it
Thanks for the video! Realizing they took away the cool fan control feature from the previous model made me actually go with the previous version since I was less concerned with overall performance but balanced features. Noise and heat levels are too of my biggest concerns with a laptop. They were foolish to remove that cool shortcut fan control from the newer models. I see it as a downgrade I would not purchase.
Hmm I never noticed any heavy fan sounds for mine, it never even got burning hot either just alot of air you can feel blowing out but no sounds and I've been playing heavy games too
@@straivalist8281 same! mine is dead silent all the time lol im baffled seeing all these complaints about fan speed cause i feel like i never even know theres even fans on it thats how quiet they are lol
Bro I have legion 5 Gen 6 it works amazing when it's plugged in but when I use it on battery screen stutters/unstable fps on both games and movies
How can I fix it?
@@n3me51s2 is optimus enabled or not?
@@aureeus enabled
the laptop have a lot of USB Ports, including a USB-C which can also be used with a dongle for more USB ports.
I do think, the 300W is needed if more peripherals will be connected to it simultaneously.
7 problems yet you crowned it best budget gaming laptop
Legion 5 17.3 here no touchpad issues. I did upgrade based on your last video. New Wifi Intel AX200 for $15 on ebay. New RAM 32GB dual channel. Thank you.
Decided on this laptop for my brother. Got an amazing deal at only 1300 euros. Was a pretty substantial improvement from his 750 ti and i3-4130. Great video btw! Oh and also, on his laptop he can press fn + q to change between 3 fan profiles. Must be a newer feature
can you tell me if the fan is so noisy even a not heavy workload? thx
@@LaboratorioInformatico its not very loud at all actually
@@LaboratorioInformatico i have the legion 5 and i have never had any issues or complaints with the fans. i honestly dont understand the complaints on the fans being too loud becuase i literally never even hear them! it is dead silent 98% of the time until i play a game then i can hear them but thats normal.
FN+Q changes the power plan from Eco, Auto to Max power. It doesn't directly control the fans, its just the fans get used more in the higher settings due to the extra performance from the selected profile.
Cheers! I've been looking for a new all-around laptop with some gaming capabilities for a while now and your reviews have been incredibly helpful in cutting through all the opinions and marketing BS out there. The Legion 5 is gonna be it.
Cheers indeed! Im also going with this bad boy!
I'm getting my Legion 5 this week, and I gotta say that if these are the biggest issues with it I'm going to be really happy. Big thanks to this channel for steering me towards the Legion 5, I nearly got a Tuf F-15 and I'd have been really dissatisfied. I'm hyped for the Legion 5
I am planning to buy also next month
@@alvinfauzi5687 I've been looking at loads of different ones, watching loads of UA-cam videos and looking at loads of comparisons and benchmarks and the Legion 5 definitely looks like the best choice in that budget bracket
How's the laptop?
How is it? Do you encounter wifi issues? Many said the problem is the realtek wifi card.
@@rmcf3972 had it about a year now and it's been an awesome laptop, bit noisy but gaming laptops normally are. It doesn't have enough power to hit 120fps to match the 120hz screen, but it's still more than enough for 60fps gaming on high settings. Not had a single issue with the WiFi personally
Got mine yesterday for helping a friend in need, im happy with it so far!
Well actually the issue with the touch pad is that , its too much left centric
Me being a right-hander, it's difficult for me to left click in a comfortable position.
Other than that, it's honestly a great touchpad, with basically no flex.
I'm glad you didn't mention the speakers like many other reviewers did. It's great Lenovo didn't bother with speaker sound considering how loud this gaming laptop can get. I think it's called DTV (design to value) whch helped to keep the price of this laptop very competitive.
Igpu driver not detecting is also a problem but nobody covers it 🙂
Don't update the display driver from Windows updates, reinstall the amd drivers with a clean install and it should be fine
@@scurtualexandru2064 its not working my friend that’s the issues 🙂
Turn on hybrid mode from lenovo vantage bro cuz when you turn it off it disables igbu
I have the i7 since release man the best laptop I have had
I bought my Legion 5 last year and quite frankly it has none of these issues lmao. Mine has 230w charger, Intel AX200 wifi card, great 1RX8 ram, 144hz screen with good response time, solid touchpad etc.
Same with me. I got last year's model a few weeks ago, and everything is fine. The only problem is not being able to change the refresh rate from 144hz to 60hz, as it would boost battery life when on the go
@@guilhermemonteiro5032 I could limit the refresh rate to 60Hz through the nvidia control panel. But it’s kinda useless since it would disappear when I turn hybrid mode on
Ayo nice t-shirt Jarrod
Thanks for this amazing video! I always like your no BS style of delivery, always straight on point.
And thanks to this video, I think that legions arent for me, I've been thinking between Asus M16 and legion 5 or 5 pro and I think these problems pushed me further to M16.
If I can ever buy one of them ofc.
No problem! The M16 vs 5 Pro comparison on the main channel might be useful 😁
@@JarrodsLaptops I've actually already seen this one, that's why I said about legions (in fact I watched all of your videos on m16 and legions on both channels) :)
The thing is, that for me a thinner and lighter laptop is very important since I often carry it around, but the most important thing is the screen because I find 14" screens too small and need 15" minimum and I really wanted to find 2k 120+ fps but there is like 10 laptops with such specs.
And comparing lenovo 5 pro screen with the M16 screen, lenovo loses pretty much with its not that amazing color ratings, brightness and response time. And its heavier (I'm not even talking about brick).
Legion is a good performance machine when it sits at one place and you need it for heavy tasks. However, M16 is a good all round laptop, and I need exactly good all rounder that can do pretty much everything I want (productivity, content, playing games, etc), but packs it with an amazing screen and portability.
@@grihoriko8800 I was also going to get the m16 over the Legion but decided to get the Legion 7i 3070, because no mux switch and soldiered memory where huge deal breakers for me.
@@Shadowwe1 well, to each his own I guess. For me soldered ram is not a problem (I just want to get 16gig version and throw another 16 gig for double channel and Im good) and mux switch isn't a problem too cause I have a screen at home to play.
My only 2 real concerns with M16 is that it gets really hot on the keyboard and blow hot air on the screen and a lot of people notice that its really loud.
My problem with legion 7 however is that it is heavier, thicker, can have crappy memory (so I need to upgrade it entirely instead of throwing 1 stick), screen not as good as M16's and I like asus design a bit more.
Btw how is Legion 7 doing for you? How is the screen and portability and build quality? Was there any problems with touchpad or screen bleed?
Yep, the availability is spot on. Not only lenovo legion, but also hp omen is antoher laptop that is very hard to buy because it is so rare. Here in my country (Indonesia), the official distributor for hp omen and lenovo legion both said that "hopefully" it will be back in stock in early November
Do it with HP Omen too!!!
Yes please
Don't think I've used the Omen too much extra just yet to have anything additional to add, but I'm using it for 5600H vs 5800H so we'll see what happens!
I have a late 2023 Lenovo Legion 5i. Using Lenovo Vantage software it is possible to adjust fan speeds. You click on Thermal Mode in the main screen. That takes you to Performance Mode/Balance Mode/Quiet Mode/Custom Mode. Custom Mode allows you to control the fan speeds for the other three modes, unfortunately you cannot lower the fan speeds, only raise them.
Fn + Q will also toggle between the Modes.
Personally I found tweaking fan speeds in Balance Mode and ticking the option to Enable Legion AI Engine dropped my temperatures by almost 15C. It will depend on what games you play. I am not a competitive FPS player and generally play isometric turn based games like Baldurs Gate 3 and Jagged Alliance 3, so the variable cpu clock speeds that this setting gives is not noticeable.
I have the same specs 2021 Legion 5. I'm pretty happy with everything so far. My biggest gripes are the huge power brick, as I am a student. I get about 3 hours of battery life so I always need to bring that power brick around everywhere. Actually for my unit, my touchpad is pretty sturdy, but sometimes it inputs a left click instead of a right click, so not sure if that's a consistent problem. Otherwise very happy with what I bought. I actually don't hear any fan noise unless I have a game running. Even in a quite environment and I'm taking a test, I don't anything. Maybe just my ears.
Like the guy above me said, I think its a software setting too cause mine too also did that lmao
@@yankeewog How can that be a software setting if there's clearly a mechanical click when pressing down ? He was clearly not referring to touching the touchpad since you can't right click by doing that...
I recommend watching Jarrod's video about Lenovo 5 upgrades. You can upgrade the 60wh battery to 80wh battery
Been using my legion 5 pro daily at work for 1.4 years now straight. I absolutely love this laptop. Could it be better ? Sure. For the price I’m glad I gave it a try after 25 + alienwares over the last 15 or so years.
What I wanted :
1600p screen. Since the original 19x1200p 17 I’ve despised 1080 and widescreen screens. Alienware at the time had none.
Power plug at the rear . Heavy thick cable stays out of the way when I use it on my lap or on the table. Ports on the rear but wanted a usb for a wireless mouse on the right side. Thus is from 2009 memories of a unibody MacBook 17 that had it on the left side and the metal of the chassis interfered with the signal 💀. Use the port on the rear for the usb end and works great and looks great out of the way.
Keyboard. Absolutely great spacing and layout of keys especially f1 keys. This is unique to me and I’m actually frustrated playing level 2600+ arena in wow I’m finding I’m having more misclicks and key issues on my $300 desktop keyboard vs the fantastic keyboard on this legion 5 pro 🥲.
Happy that I can put it into balance and low power modes easily and have more than an hour to tune my m4 and flash the computer multiple times without worrying about the battery life. I definitely couldn’t do this with my 18xr3 with dual 980ms which gave me about 300 seconds 🤣
I use an m2 skin and used a hair dryer moved the ugly stickers on the palm rest to the bottom and used a dark skin on the palm rest and I used a white skin on the outer lid which looks absolutely amazing with the legion tri star. I think legion dropped the ball on going away from the logo . It looks amazing and I’m happy I got the model with it. As an Alienware fanboi it adds just enough style 👌.
I do wish the chassis and palm rest area was metal but for the price totally acceptable.
I wish there was a way to have the screen go to 60hz and an ultra power savings mode to at least extend unplugged life then it would be even better.
one day one RAM slot stops working, black scree, after I was able to isolate the issue that removing memory from lower slot and laptop works just fine, how come this happens after 2 years all was good with 2 slots/RAM/ and now I dont know how to fix this looks like this is a common issue - factory fault, maybe Lenovo should fix this free of charge?
Companies will never be able to impress people no matter how much effort they put in their product.
Everything about Legion 5 Pro is perfect including the big brick like adapter. They all have a purpose if we look at performance of this laptop.
This is not the pro.
it's far from perfect. It has no fan control(a must for a gaming laptop), no voltage control even in BIOS(MSI and HP have it), with battery charge limit for prolonging it's lifespan you can only choose 60%, not the optimal 80% like others offer.
It's very close to perfection but unfortunately Lenovo screwed it for enthusiasts.
Lithium batteries optimum charge for storage is around 60%. Look it up. Other brands use 80 because the users usually forget to fully charge it before disconnecting and then they would be left with a 60% battery. So they will eventually turn off this feature. Voltage control is not necessary in my opinion since its gpu (mine 3070) runs at true 130watt limit, not like in the gigabyte laptop or hp omen.
@@zsoca31 umm what?
1. 80% is the perfect balance between capacity and longevity. My 11-year old Samsung laptop with the limit of 80% still has like 50-60% of original capacity. It's the last 20% that are the most harmful for the battery. Yes it's optimial to keep the battery charged at 40-50%(not 60), but in case you need to use your laptop suddenly you'd have to spend time to charge it, it's very inconvinient to switch back and forth between 60 and 100% to reach needed capacity. Others offer 60 or 80% choice, heck with Dell you can select the EXACT percentage, ranging from 55 to 100%.
2. Voltage control is definitely needed in gaming laptops. They often reach 90+ degrees in heavy loads(some heavy games included) and throttle, with undervolting not only you lower temps, you also get more performance back, limited by laptop formfactor.
3. What does GPU wattage have to do with it? I was talking about CPU undervolting, unlike HP and MSI, Lenovo don't allow it on their Legion 5 and 5 pro. CPU is what gets the hottest. Besides, voltage control on Nvidia GPU-s have been available on all laptops since 1000 series via MSI Afterburner.
@@TabalugaDragon
I have balance charged and soldered Lithium battery cells, and i will take 60% over 80% anytime.
Thats Nice If you can select the exact percentage in dells.
2. I think lenovos cooling is superior to most brands, you can play with voltages and fans but you will never get good temperatures If the case is too slim or the fans or pipes etc are bad.
There is so many fucked up designs and component combinations that I am just happy if my gpu/cpu works as the manufacturer intended.
You are right though, voltage control should be an option.
But I find the display a much bigger issue. The market is flooded with bad display panels and its basically a lottery which exact panel you get in your box. i guess what was laying around in the factory at that time.
The biggest problems I have with this laptop are the low quality speakers and the lack of wake on lan.
Thank God I was able to upgrade the sound by installing equalizer APO.
They all have that problem. Very flat sound.
great reviews Jarrod, I appreciate it. I can't seem to find a Legion 5 with 32gb's of ram, I wish they would ship with 32gb because I seem to like everything else to use for Blender/Photoshop/Photo Editing. thx again.
my touchpad on the lenovo legion 5 is pretty balanced, feels good to press
I use this laptop as my desktop PC for 3 months and absolutely perfect. Best gaming laptop for 2K games.
have you faced any heat problem?
@@omaral-fararjeh6617 not yet. But I'm occasional gamer. I used it mainly for video editing.
@@zeddd33 Oh, i see
Glad to see no big issues with it! Thinking of buying when I get another job and a car
Love watching your videos. Hands down the most unbiased and honest reviewer.
Just bought my Lenovo Legion 5 - AMD Ryzen 7 - 16GB - 1TB - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB is it any good? It's my first gaming laptop and totally know nothing..
Touchscreen was also veeeery slightly loose for me.
But the biggest "problem" for me was the volume. In my last laptop I was sitting comfortably on 32-40% volume most of the time, but on Legion I had to bump it to 52-60% to achieve the same effect.
I agree, the speaker volume is very lacking.
The perfect gaming laptop is developers moving to Macs: Performance unplugged, better screens, airpods as excellent headsets, doesn't get hot, decent keyboard.
Hopefully Qualcomm can come in and save us.
I'm watching this on a brand new Legion 5. I have the same config with 5600 & 3060 and ended up with the Realtek card. Curiously enough I do have 3 levels of fan control accessible either the bundled lenovo software, or with fn+Q shortcut. The trackpad is uniformly stiff on both sides.
Ok, so i got the last year (2021) legion 5i for PC VR, Content creation and my daily Laptop!!! Thanks for being so clear with your reviews!
Lenovo did improve it since 2019 a lot. Unlike Acer. Back in 2019 I watched your reviews on the Legion Y530 (I think it was or the Legion 5, not sure) and Predator 300. I choose the Predator and that laptop has been faultless. So to sum it up 2019 - Predator 300. 2020 - Legion 5. They made some much needed upgrades. 2021 seem kinda of a downgrade for both companies as far as I can see.
Hi Jarrod, firstly thank you for all your videos rgd the notebook RTX comparisons.
Greetings from Singapore - I've owned the Legion 5 Pro since APR'21, and only recently I bought myself a Legion 5 with Ryzen 7 5800H/ RTX3060 but the power brick that came with it is now 230W and 1/3 the size vs the 300W brick on the 5 Pro. The 230W brick was manufactured JUN'21.
Is it draining the battery under heavy load?Mine did with a 230 watt charger.
@@jack5611 I usually set the Conservation Mode ON, to preserve the battery - even while gaming. It does slowly deplete the battery over time.
Hey Jarrod, Last week ive picked up my Legion 5 with a 5600h and rtx 3060, I love it. Im going to upgrade my 8gb of ram to 16gb x8 ram. should make a big difference. The trackpad is completely fine on my model. and the best thing is I paid only 850$ for it while it was on sale. However I find that the 300w power brick is indeed quite big
Great news with the touchpad!
I am also looking for the 5600h model. Have you done any 1440p gaming yet? Are you still happy with the legion 5? ^^
@@XxSupErBoBxX23 sorry for the late reply, i haven't done any 1440p gaming yet, since I'm running a 1080p monitor. But on some games with 150% resolution scaling it works really great honestly. Only issue I had with it was the big power brick and the 8gb of ram, that I upgraded now
How the did u get that peace price 😂?
lucky here in asia it sells for $1500-1600 for the 3060 ver.
@@luozheng2489 Yeah.
Touchpad is fine in my unit, fans are quiet in idle after some minor tweaking in bios.
does anyone have the issue when they're playing a game in fullscreen and theres something in the background going on like idk watching a yt video the game in fullscreen locks at 60fps?
My legion 5 came with 16gb memory and 8gb GPU but when I checked the system, the 3070 was sharing 8gb system memory wtf
Thanks for this video. I'll be sure to keep these in mind since I am eyeing this specific model.
Super appreciative of these reviews man… your videos are hands down the BEST on UA-cam when it comes to reviews and specs on laptops. Thank you!
Hello Sir! Please recommend me the best gaming laptop to date with the following specifications & requirements overall:
• Display must be 17.3” QHD 1440p (higher refresh rate for gaming obviously) & has good colors as well
• CPU should be powerful enough (up to you)
• GPU should be RTX 3080 with 16 GB VRAM
• RAM should be dual-channel and 32 GB (should be upgradeable)
• Overall build quality must be excellent (solid & sturdy finish but material should be easily cleanable and does not leave greasy stains from hands etc.)
• Battery should be decent like 6-7 hours (not gaming I game only plugged on)
• Keyboard must be good & RGB per key
• Weight should be light & not too heavy for portability
• Thermals should be excellent for both GPU and CPU temps should remain under 85°C for extensive periods of gaming and should not suffer from thermal throttling at all
• Excellent SSDs installed with higher speeds (should be upgradeable)
• Excellent audio quality
• Price is not an issue!
Thank you.
Definitely the Legion 5 gen 6
Jarrod you are the best!
I have legion 5 as well. I think for the lower model which I'm currently using (ryzen 5 with 1650ti) the fan noise isn't really an issue. But I'm still hoping they add fan control on lenovo vantage.
Planning to get the legion5 with thesame specs.
Is. It still good ?
Is it good idea to buy same laptop (2021) in 2023? Please answer me someone
Pretty OOT but i really wanna see u collab with the big dogs like LTT
The 3060 has a peak power of around 135W, the R7 can have 65W plus LCD, SSD, WiFi, etc. 230W is at the limit of what can be safely handled. Other laptops have lower specs in the 90 - 110W range at peak. My Zephyrus G15 has a 180W power brick, but has the R7 HS and 2060 MQ.
Good video, thank you.
That is true.My legion 5i pro with a 230 watt charger drained the battey while gaming so i returned it.
“Like all things in life, its not perfect” … fixed my crisis right there
i seriously dont understand the loud fan complaints cause my fans are dead SILENT 97% time! so much so that i wish i could turn them up and not down!
Got the 17 legion 5 3070 ryzen 7 5800H 16gb Ram 1TB SSD when it was $1150 from Lenovo, still waiting to be shipped but thinking if i should keep. I have the msi gs75 2070 maxp currently. Should I keep my current laptop or the legion 5?
Wow that price is a steal, congrats!
How 1100$ in us? 😲
Thanks. Yes it was a Lenovo glitch. Sold my MSI and kept my new legion 5. Love it and recommend!
is that ip gaming 3(gtx1650) better that legion 5(gtx1650)? in terms of price per performance* 🤔
Just bought a bunch of Legion 5s - with RTX 3070! - getting consistent 53-54mh/s on ETH while only sucking 138Watts out of the wall-outlet - measured!
Nice!
2 of them about same level of a RTX 3090 - @ 109mh/s.
When I bought my legion the touchpad was broken already.. 🙄 could’ve sent it back but I waited so long for it to come
What would you choose between Legion 5 5800/3060 or Omen 15 5800/3070? Everything else is same. MUX does not matter for me because I'll be mainly using it with an external screen.
@Therapist thanks for your comment, I've been happily using omen 15 3070 for 4 months
Thank you. I watched a bunch of your videos on the Legion 5 (from various years) and opted to get a used 2021 model for a fairly cheap price.
Thanks Jarrod for bubbling up the problem where Lenovo promised Intel WiFi card & is delivering Realtek, Mediatek WiFi cards
I would like to clarify on the first point you stated. Complaining about 300w brick is a bit pointless, considering the Lenovo is the only laptop having 130w 3060. But yes, the brick makes it unportable. This being said, if you want portability go buy a 40-65w USB c power brick. It's enough to power the laptop for office work without hybrid mode being on ( 3060 always on).
There also are quite small 100W USB power bricks.
Legion 5 is plagued from start with manufacturing issues like over heating, slower random ram and many screens even have dead pixels out of the box. i love your videos and went for legion just because of them, but now really think i should have gone asus or alien ware
I have my Legion 5 5800h and 3060 for about a week, after watching all your videos on it. The 2 downsides I have is:
Battery - granted, is a lot smaller than the one you have, my battery looks like it left room for a 2.5" SSD, though there's no option to add one
Networking in general - Either over ethernet or Wifi, my network seems to max out at 11.8mb, no matter where I download from, or if it's wifi or ethernet.
The odd thing is, is that it can do more, but "shows" me that it's only doing this amount. For example, on any speed test site it tells me my upload is 0.3mb, but I can stream to UA-cam at 15mbps not a problem, so i'm not sure what the software is doing to give it this. I've disabled all networking options that could cause it in Vantage, but I've just learned to deal with it's quirks, hoping that there may be an update down the line, and as you mention, updating the wifi card will really help.
All in all, I'm happy enough, I got this model with a 120hz screen and 8gb ram (upgraded that, too) for €1099, which was also the cheapest gaming laptop the store had with an RTX card, but was also the best laptop in the store from what I saw on the specsheets.
Thank you for showing me this laptop, I'll always be appreciative of it
I bought it when it was released and had to return it a few days after as the WiFi was terrible. I had the most inconsistent / high pings while gaming (mine had the Intel card)…
Hi Bobby,
İ got a question for you.
İ dont have lenovo but i got tuf a15 i have some ping issues in csgo,i mean lovest ping i get in cs is 70.
But i play csgo while cat-5 cable pluged in.
Do you think that if i switch vifi card it will decrease my ping?
I got 15 ping in valorant with this laptop
Sad sad
This could be because of Intel's KillerWifi settings - I turned that off and used regular wifi and it worked for mine. I have kept that off forever now, as it just messes with the speeds.
@@crashtec yea agree
Then.... should I buy this w 3060 / r7 5800h (L5P)
Why does he look like he has dwarfism in the thumbnail lmao
I'm pretty sure you can get lower response time on 165hz legion 5 by activating overdrive in the Lenovo Vantage app!
I got the 2021 Legion 5 with a perfectly stiff touch pad and I am pretty happy I chose it instead of rog, tuf and nitro.
Good to hear, thanks for letting me know, so far it seems like it might just be me!
Hello and greetings Jarrod . im one of lenovo 5 user from Malaysia. These are my feedback of using lenovo 5 Rtx3060 Amd Ryzen 7 5800H for a month.
- touchpad is okay. I didnt notice any loose part of the touchpad and my unit has a responsive touchpad.
- my unit has a realtek wifi card. So it should pose a problem of lagging when playing games or surfing the web. It may be slow in loading the site but i didnt see any sudden drops in the internet latency.
- My unit uses a slower SK Hynix RAM ( 16GB single rank i think ) but i didnt changed it to a newer RAM as I was short on money. However , getting a 100fps in every game is still considered a great deal for me as i didnt play much games.
- this unit comes with 300W brick. I have no issues at the moment as im currently working from home. However it may cause an extra weight if im gonna use it outstation.
- mine has 165hz screen. Colour is accurate, brightness is same as your findings. No issue so far for me.
- for fan speed issue, i didnt hear noises from fan when im using quiet mode . It only goes to fighter jet mode when i turned on performance mode and the jet fan noise can be heard quite loud but not too annoying to me.
Thank you Jarrod for highlighting these issues. It helps me aware of my unit more. 👍
He didn't talk about the SATA slot where you have to choose whether you want to install a SATA drive or an M.2 drive. I think that was the worst part of this laptop. You should be able to attach in both drives not choose one.
Absolutely. It's ridiculous.. We need 2 x 2tb m.2 and 2 tb sata at the same time.
@@kaiserbach1231 Good one :D
i have a legion five and the touchpad is perfectly fine for me so it was likely just a problem with your legion 5 specifically. Kinda unfortunate for you but what are you gonna do
I would love to see a Legion 5 vs Legion 5 Pro comparison video.