Finally someone data mined / reverse engineered the Ranking System! For years i was wondering why no one tried looking for it in the game's code to understand exactly how it works instead of just guessing. Also happy some of my predictions were true, like it being a weighted round/down and not a simple round/down and time played somehow factoring in.
Slight error here, if yor go through the games code you'll see there is a check for rounds played versus starting round that you joined on, and it wont track the stats for rank until AFTER 3 rounds have passed from the starting round. For most games this is indeed 1-4 but for custom games with the starting round changed and nothing else this would be different rounds (so rounds 20-24 if starting on round 20) or if you join an existing match you have to play through 3 rounds from when you joined for the stats to start tracking
I'd say a tally based on how many buildables you make, or even how many side easter eggs you complete. This would give incentive to put the work in, and fully explore and earn what the maps have to offer.
So technically.. you could just get to Round 11, save a zombie or two at round 11, pull an all nighter whilst having countless tours around the map whilst being chased, and you'll get shotty's legitimately that way?
@@destinydobby I always had a feeling shottys came through a certain amount of game time as the quickest I could get them was from grinding Mob of the Dead for a week minimum
does it matter what map this is done on, are you just using Die Rise as an example? also what command are you using to stop zombie spawns while you timescale ?
I mean he explains how it works in this video. It's not K/D, it's a somewhat complex function of rounds/downs and playtime requirements. Going down at early rounds is what kills you.
@@VanessaMagick I got it in 2 games 5k kills each, one down each game. Keep saying it doesn’t work lol. That’s not to say it’s a flat 5k k/d, but if someone just wants to get it for fun that’s how on a fresh account.
@@DiabloGoldSecrets if those two games take 30 hours and you get to a high enough round to make up for the weighted downs, yes there is a youtube video (scroll up if you want to see it!) of someone getting it in one game just by playing up to round 11, waiting around for 30 hours, and then quitting
So does this system work on a game by game basis or a lifetime basis like MP's k/d ratio? aka it would be infinitely harder to determine when you'd get shotgun ranks if you say, had 200 previously recorded downs on your profile, not knowing what rounds they occurred on while also not keeping track of total rounds played.
What I’m thinking is to get to round 11 on buried then have Leroy hold a crawler for 30 hours and maybe throw a rubber band on your controller so it doesn’t shut off
One Question: As this is Plutonium could it be that the offical ranking system from bo2 works a little bit different? I assumed the team behind plutonium needed to reimplement the system from scratch right?
Yeah you could still derank back to lower ranks if your rounds/downs ration falls too low, the table shows the minimum requirements for each one@@julezdev6566
I remember during BO2 no one could figure this out. We got to a guestimate which was the right idea but never set parameters like this. Also thought it was rounds played not time How did you do it did you manage to get into the code ? Edit: didnt finish the video lol
Dobby got one more Q: my zombies rank progress isn’t saving in plutonium - any ideas why? I leveled up to skull exited out of plutonium and I booted back up and I’m cross bones again. Also it’s not saving my gun in the fridge too. Lemme know ur thoughts
so can u explain if their is rank decay or and if it decays an actual rank or if it just takes away tally mark. like say if i didnt play for a month and i was at shotgun would i be all the way back too just bone
Possible Tally Mark ideas: 1. Pack-a-Punch Ever Weapon once in a single game. 2. Complete an Easter Egg in under 15 mins. 3. Reach round 50 without ever buying juggernog. (could change the last one to zero downs).
The 'weighted downs' count at any round, but the 'weighted rounds' only start counting at round 5. And yes, you can lose your rank. If you go into games and die repeatedly on round 1 and then leave, you can tank your rank down very quickly indeed
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Finally someone data mined / reverse engineered the Ranking System! For years i was wondering why no one tried looking for it in the game's code to understand exactly how it works instead of just guessing. Also happy some of my predictions were true, like it being a weighted round/down and not a simple round/down and time played somehow factoring in.
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@@swagcat51 was gonna say the same thing, good memories
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Slight error here, if yor go through the games code you'll see there is a check for rounds played versus starting round that you joined on, and it wont track the stats for rank until AFTER 3 rounds have passed from the starting round. For most games this is indeed 1-4 but for custom games with the starting round changed and nothing else this would be different rounds (so rounds 20-24 if starting on round 20) or if you join an existing match you have to play through 3 rounds from when you joined for the stats to start tracking
Sucks TLex don't put any links for your channel in his vid. Good looks bro thanks for the content. 💪
I'd say a tally based on how many buildables you make, or even how many side easter eggs you complete.
This would give incentive to put the work in, and fully explore and earn what the maps have to offer.
this is pretty crazy man
So technically.. you could just get to Round 11, save a zombie or two at round 11, pull an all nighter whilst having countless tours around the map whilst being chased, and you'll get shotty's legitimately that way?
yeah lol, that's pretty much what I did just sped up
There’s actually a wall breach on buried with the trample steam where you can just AFK so you can make it even easier
@@_nickyboy1008_ the one in the restaurant area?
@@destinydobby I always had a feeling shottys came through a certain amount of game time as the quickest I could get them was from grinding Mob of the Dead for a week minimum
@@poyzee7702 no it’s near quick revive
Will y’all be giving some guns better ammo counts for the Die Rise remaster? (ex. S12, Kap-45, Type 25…)
yes
@@destinydobby thnx ur hawt 👍👍
Put simply what r/d ratio is required for shotguns? I’m having trouble understanding .13
Why not have tally’s based on which side of the super Easter Egg you beat?
for the tally marks challenges pack a punching every weapon would be a dope challenge or getting a certain number of hdeashots wiht specific weapons
does it matter what map this is done on, are you just using Die Rise as an example? also what command are you using to stop zombie spawns while you timescale ?
Another question about the ranking system that im not sure if you tested: does the "Versus Status" counts for the rank? I guess not.
Wait so if I go down and it ends the game that means I still have 2 downs?
If it only counts past round 4 does that mean if you down and end game before round 4, it doesn't count towards downs?
GG on finding this!
Back in the day I did this in two games by going to 5k kills in each game on a new account. Two games later had shotguns. It’s based on k/d
I mean he explains how it works in this video. It's not K/D, it's a somewhat complex function of rounds/downs and playtime requirements.
Going down at early rounds is what kills you.
@ that’s fine, if you don’t go down in low rounds it’s just 5,000 k/d. The real crime with this system was how fun grief was and it ruined your stats.
@@DiabloGoldSecrets no it's not
@@VanessaMagick I got it in 2 games 5k kills each, one down each game. Keep saying it doesn’t work lol. That’s not to say it’s a flat 5k k/d, but if someone just wants to get it for fun that’s how on a fresh account.
@@DiabloGoldSecrets if those two games take 30 hours and you get to a high enough round to make up for the weighted downs, yes
there is a youtube video (scroll up if you want to see it!) of someone getting it in one game just by playing up to round 11, waiting around for 30 hours, and then quitting
So does this system work on a game by game basis or a lifetime basis like MP's k/d ratio? aka it would be infinitely harder to determine when you'd get shotgun ranks if you say, had 200 previously recorded downs on your profile, not knowing what rounds they occurred on while also not keeping track of total rounds played.
What I’m thinking is to get to round 11 on buried then have Leroy hold a crawler for 30 hours and maybe throw a rubber band on your controller so it doesn’t shut off
Really nice find!
One Question: As this is Plutonium could it be that the offical ranking system from bo2 works a little bit different? I assumed the team behind plutonium needed to reimplement the system from scratch right?
Also how does this affect deraking? Could you derank back to crossbones from shotgun rank?
The ranking system should be exactly the same, it's just a modded client, they didn't have to recreate the entire game or anything@@julezdev6566
Yeah you could still derank back to lower ranks if your rounds/downs ration falls too low, the table shows the minimum requirements for each one@@julezdev6566
@@destinydobby Thank you :)
Can you manipulate weighted rounds with the time bomb on buried?
I remember during BO2 no one could figure this out. We got to a guestimate which was the right idea but never set parameters like this. Also thought it was rounds played not time
How did you do it did you manage to get into the code ?
Edit: didnt finish the video lol
Really great video and great job in data mining and reverse engineering.
There is a mod for seeing your down/round ratio?
So can this be done in solo play or custom games? Which one?
Does your rounds/downs ratio reset when you start a new game or does it accumulate over time?
Now do Max Rank to Low Rank in only 1 game
Leaving at round 1 with 0 downs will count against my Rank?!
Is the time played part total time played?
It's total time played while active in game. If you can control your character the timer's running.
Hey Dobby so when going for shotguns rank, I should not kill myself at the end of the game? I should instead just end the game from the pause menu?
yes
Where will the die rise remastered version be releasing, plutonium? How do I find out about the release?
bo3 custom zombies
Dobby got one more Q: my zombies rank progress isn’t saving in plutonium - any ideas why? I leveled up to skull exited out of plutonium and I booted back up and I’m cross bones again. Also it’s not saving my gun in the fridge too. Lemme know ur thoughts
Plutonium seemingly doesn't save rank etc.
ay imma say this idk if yk but id you load into a map it will also load a mod, that mod resets ur stats so you gotta unload the mod.
VERY NICE
so can u explain if their is rank decay or and if it decays an actual rank or if it just takes away tally mark. like say if i didnt play for a month and i was at shotgun would i be all the way back too just bone
it only takes away tally marks, i had shotguns from back in the day and i still have them now and i havnt played in years lol
Tally marks 'decay'. Your rank - that is, your bones/skull/knife/shotgun - never goes down over time, only from poor performance
What if i reach a round much higher than 11? Would i still have to wait 30 hours?
yes, that’s just the minimum round you’d need without any downs to meet the stat requirement
Nice system
Round 100 for a tally mark seems way too high
That's because the tally marks are for days played consecutively??? everybody knows that like cmon
is there any way of checking out my stats on steam?
Unfortunately I don't think you can
Can you still Max Rank in 30 hours in one game with 1000 downs on your stats?
you'd have to get to a much higher round but probably yeah, all depends on what stats you already have. this video was starting from a fresh account
Oh wow
Possible Tally Mark ideas:
1. Pack-a-Punch Ever Weapon once in a single game.
2. Complete an Easter Egg in under 15 mins.
3. Reach round 50 without ever buying juggernog.
(could change the last one to zero downs).
Can you lose your rank?
The 'weighted downs' count at any round, but the 'weighted rounds' only start counting at round 5. And yes, you can lose your rank. If you go into games and die repeatedly on round 1 and then leave, you can tank your rank down very quickly indeed
@VanessaMagick ya it happened to me after repeatingly trying to get stupid achievements on Transit
Nice!
Lets goooo
It’s not the actual bo2 so video makes no sense
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