Simplex Fire Alarm Test #67
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- Testing the signals on a 4120 multiplex system at a large office complex. The facility consists of 2 major buildings with various out buildings. Each building has its own 4100U panel & network audio.
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I like how the system even has a test message when the pull station is active
Me too it works also on touch screen color of 4100es too.
that quiet sigh of relief when the stopper didn't squeal at you... I feel that.
Aleksander Kalinowski it’s a non-powered one cause the powered ones are a little more bulky but I think they might be smaller in wall space but don’t take my word for it on the size thing.
Kind of reminds me of the fire alarm system at South Shore Mall in Braintree, MA; they have a 4120 multiplex system with panels and devices from the 90s to the present. I remember being in one part of the mall when they were working on the alarm system, and in that part of the mall the speaker/strobes all kept sounding the older Slow Whoop alert tone (they still had a 4120 panel in that part of the mall.)
Those abandoned 4208s look cool, too. My first elementary school still has their old 4208 cabinet intact, but the panel was gutted and modified for terminal wiring after it started failing almost five years ago, and they wired everything into the Simplex 4010 panel that was being used for added-on duct detectors and the modular building, along with replacing the old 4208 battery cabinet with a couple of EST booster power panels and all the existing alarm signals with boring SpectrAlert Advance horn/strobes (which initially led me to believe the Simplex 4010 had been replaced with a Notifier panel of some kind, like the ones at my college.)
Oh nice! An older Simplex Voice Evac system :D
That system is sooo sick!!! Pretty cool how the system overrides the intercom system which is tied off with the speaker strobes.
I wish it was like that at my school (my school uses a simplex voice evac system and the intercom is different)
@@TakoElevators same. My high school has a Simplex voice evac system too which might be a 4100ES.
That old 4208 panel though.....WOWWWWwwwwww that's massive
It was a beast for sure.
Oh, and @ 4:42 is that a Main PA/Intercom speaker. Interesting how some if those Speakers are also tied to the Intercom/PA, ir they **ARE** fire alarm devices just in black same with alot of the other non Speaker-Strobe devices that are speakers.
Odd that the "TESTING" message doesn't repeat itself for hardwired zones.
This system has got to be my favorite shown on your channel. This was cool.
Awesome video I loved this talking fire alarm stuff
**ding** “my foods ready” no Carl that’s the fire alarm
DJ Fabi if you’re referencing the Simpson’s fire drill scene it actual goes like this: **alarm sound** Carl: “Popcorn’s done.” Homer: “Hey... that’s the fire alarm!”
I just made it up had no idea it would get likes and was a line from a show... I just thought it was something a non alarm enthusiast would say lol
DJ Fabi Oh! Heh. So any questions about the fire alarm enthusiast hobby?
Andrew Church I got my Weelock chime strobe with dual plates, white and red , I haven’t set it up yet . Don’t know how. Don’t wanna break it
@@andrewchurch452 Carl: "We gotta get outta here!"
Lenny: "Wait for me!"
Well this testing audio prompt is a nice alternative to sounding the alarms...
I suppose of it were a drill scenario it would be different
They need to do this with drills at school honestly, no need for an alarm to evacuate especially if it’s just a drill.
@@legoastronaut9775 Since Simplex panels are quite flexible, it's very feasible to have a "drill" type message in the panel to use, but in most cases it goes against what schools and other types of buildings want to achieve with fire drills. They're designed to simulate a real world scenario so occupants know what to react to (not all alarms are created equal - especially in voice evac land, even with Simplex there can be a variety of tones and messages) and how to react (primary & secondary evacuation paths - not all places do "blocked path" scenarios but they should). It's also of course a convenient time for them to ensure the system is in fully working order, since most places conduct drills by hitting a pull station.
Interesting features on that panels.
Basically the entire video:
"TESTING CHANNEL 1,2,3 DEVICE 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0"
"TESTING ZONE 9"
*keys clanking*
And lay an ear rape effect on it.
Amusing when there's a PA speaker right next to a speaker/strobe (6:34 & 8:39). Those extra speaker circuits (the ones you press after pressing "All Speakers Talk") make sense now.
Those are actually for the adjoining building & outbuildings. The PA speakers operate solely as part of the audio.
Interesting alarm system. Quite different to the British fire alarms
I think I like this system as one of the best.
4:04 Those are some bass-ey speakers
16:03 keep reading the captions lol
Do not use the elevators, instead use steroids
😂
Glorified Toastr With Legs stairwells
I just started a new job a little over a month ago with a health insurance company and facility I'm in is comprised of two buildings. Each apparently has their own panel because each system is tested monthly. The the building I'm in apparently has a 4100 or earlier voice evacuation system because it does the older style slow whoop. They only let it run for about 5-10 seconds and in that time it didn't play a message so it either doesn't have one or it comes on later. Can't speak for the adjoining building however.
Whoever wrote the evac message at 15:53 did it well. Well scripted. I wish this message were the Simplex Default.
Great video. I've been really enjoying your videos. Keep up the good work.
Hi jared. Didn't know you were watching safetech. I don't see your comments that often
Thanks for viewing!
@@safetech You're welcome.
@@SirensAndAlarmsOfNorthernIL I'm usually working when his videos comes out.
Wow, that's really cool how they made the entire system into a mass notification system!
might as well wire speakers so close together nice stereo image when they’re different
You don’t see too many Conventional 4100Us with voice evac.
CJ9899 I know right
CJ9899 or any conventional 4100Us or 4100ESs in general. Is go addressable or nothing.
@@SomeDudeWithAnExitSignSo you’re saying that you can’t have a conventional 4100U or ES?
@@doggoofthebath5593 I'm saying that conventional 4100Us or Conventional 4100ESs are uncommon. You can have a conventional 4100U and 4100ES but its usually Addressable devices or nothing. But you can have conventional 4100Us and 4100ESs.
@@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign oh ok I was just confused
Testing zone 9 it’s a good one
Love it! Keep it up!
Thank you!
Wow, a voice evac system.
Honestly why can’t all fire alarms do that? Why does it have to be noice?
4:06 the sound also comes out of the PA speakers? How is that done?
Those are actually fire alarm speakers. If you look close, those are painted red. So that means that they are used for voice evac
@@SirensAndAlarmsOfNorthernIL those are black
KTG 10 are you by any chance colorblind
@@ooka7705 Bro those are for sure black in some parts. There were also some white ceiling speakers too....
@spooka770 Go to 4:05 bro
The Simplex walk test voice sounds so much like Darth Vader
You know, I always wonder who was the guy behind the voice-evac announcements.
Simplex does have a male and female version of their messages it just depends on what the contractors installing it decide what to do.
He’s talking about the person behind the message, not the contractor
RSSAlarms HD He knows that
The original recordings I believe came straight from Westminster however different varieties and an array of wording patterns can be selected from the current audio files.
SAFETECH Westminster? What/Who's that?
Nice fire alarm system
Thanks for viewing!
@@safetech I have a small fire alarm system my self in my little shop
Love your video
Now I know your voice!
Neat idea for the installer to add regular speakers to the voice evac. Especially in blacks. Hey isn’t that Mr. Truealerts same voice protocol or whatever it’s called?
That's just the voice Simplex uses.
Oh my god why are there so many pull stations???
Pull station 123, I didn’t mean to offend your delicate sensibilities with my heinous question as to why there are manual pulls at non egress points. The description of the video doesn’t cover this, but what would I expect from a channel completely devoted to something as stupid as manual pulls. I’ve been installing and testing fire alarms for 20 years, “noob”.
Pull station 123 oop-
It’s just common fire alarm legal regulations.
@@Gentex_Commander_2 Take it easy there. Anthony had a legitimate question.
-ECO
And what does "Testing... channel 1 device" mean? Does it mean that the device is active?
Identifying which device was activated. On an addressable system each individual initiating device has a device number which is part of a channel loop (SLC). Testing Channel 1 Device 37 for instance refers to a certain pull station or smoke detector or other device. The system sees an activation from M1-37 (Channel 1 Device 37) and that way can pinpoint the exact location in the building where the alarm was initiated. @SAFETECH correct me if I am wrong about any of this.
to my understanding the guy that did most of the male simplex voice evac messages died but I guess his voice was ai generated for more modern panels like this for just announcing the devices for testing
Are there any procedures for what would happen if a fire was detected during a test? Would the system be able to respond appropriately or would it be 100% focused on the test? Also, this is a really cool complex and I would love to explore it!
Yes. The building authority also typically designates a fire watch while the system is offline.
I can’t believe the system is in trouble.
I know, right? What did it ever do? It’s parents are gonna spank it on the rear end!
Why was I expecting the older horn/strobes to be 4903-9220s?
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any idea what the pull stations and notification appliances could’ve been on the old 4208?
When you put one node of a 4120 network into Walk Test, do all of the nodes also go into Walk Test or must each node be enabled manually??
was the panel in the penthouse or in a basement mechanical room?
Nice. I like your videos.
Thanks for viewing!
You’re welcome. I’m actually still looking for a fire alarm panel. Where could I maybe get one that’s cheap?
Start was a fire lite MS-2/4 great starter panel!!!!
Ok thanks
The simplex big speaker like an Ottawa City Hall
Why is that one TrueAlert behind a vent? The strobe wouldn’t be seen by people from a certain angle
When?
Why would they have speaker strobes in mechanical rooms, why not horn strobes instead?
The customer wanted speaker strobes instead of horn strobes.
Because this system is also utilized for mass notification purposes for the entire building. Plus, this is the way it was spec’d.
I think the hospital where I work uses speaker strobes but right now we only use the continuous whoop you hear before a voice evac, though the other day we had alarm testing, but instead of a voice naming the device channel and address that was activated, we instead had a high pitch tone sound for a few seconds several times. Is that a panel in walk test or is it something else?
Could be. It’s different depending on the type of system. I would need to know more about whats there to be able to tell for sure.
@@safetech not entirely sure on what the panel itself is so I couldn't tell you. But thank you!
Are all the speakers are connected with the same panel.
Yes. Each building has its own panel.
In the older portion of the building, was the 4100u a replacement for a older conventional device?
Yes it’s actually a 4100 fit with a U upgrade kit. Still has the original amp and zone cards.
I have a question:
How would the walk-test info for each device work for horn strobes? Does it depend on the type of panel?
The system would keep repeating the same devices that are activated.
Depends on the panel. If you watch any of my other videos on this channel you see how this works.
See a relly good job mate keep up there good work on UA-cam u do a really good job on UA-cam keep up there good work on UA-cam form greg Bouchard
Just wondering, is this a school or an office building?
I am thinking of maybe doing inspections as a job. Do most people put the system in walk test before sounding the audible notification appliances (aka horns/speakers). Doesn’t it make more sense to inform everyone of a test and just sound off the audibles as if it was in standard mode instead of walk test mode?
nice announcement but.. where is the loud buzzing alarm sound?
Nice video! I like the voice evac systems! The sound cool!
Thanks for viewing!
How come the ones in the older building system it said “testing zone 9” instead of “testing channel nine divice 009”
The "channels" portion was part of the new system. The "zones were part of an older system.
That older building has conventional zones whereas the rest is addressable.
I have a question, when it says « testing channel 2 » is that equivalent to the « zone 9 » in the older section of the building?
They are separate buildings. Channel 2 is the Idnet channnel of the device.
When in walk test mode, do all alarms in the entire facility play the test message, or is it a limited set of devices that would play the message?
Or does that all depend on the panel?
Jonah Chang in A442
@Safetech Billy, I would like to know that as well
Most likely all devices will sound unless if you disable them from the panel.
I know it's 3 years later, but only the devices linked to the panel running in walk-test will sound the test message. As noted in the description, each building has its own panel, so the alarms in the other building are in normal operation.
So the older speakers are not synced
They are in sync.
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Testing channel 3 device
1 8
@@firealarmenthusiast9113 lol
That guy's voice is pretty deep lol.
1:19 testing channel, ??? Device ?, ?, ?,
channel 1
device 1 0 7
Looks like the building used to have 4051s that were behind grilles.
Yes they were part of the 4208.
@@safetech Neat; going from 4051s to Simplex voice-evac reminds me of a building at my friend's university that used to have a mostly conventional Simplex system (with a 4100 panel using ZAMs replacing a 2001) with 4051+4050-85 horn/lights; then in 2015 everything was replaced with a Simplex 4100ES voice-evac system with a mix of wall and ceiling-mount TrueAlert speaker/strobes, and even a couple of 4903 rectangular speaker/strobes in the auditorium! They even have the newer addressable dual-action Simplex pulls with the LED indicator.
What would this job be called because I like it!
Can you do a code 3 on these alarms?
also why do they almost always put main fire alarm control panels in electrical or mechanical rooms or other service areas
Because it is electrical equipment
If u going to make a video y u recording the floor
He records the floor for privacy reasons.
It says u have 0 subs... huh that’s weird cause you have way more than that lol
0:24 How announcers are controlled.
Testing, Comment, 1, Device, 3, 3, 7.
*Channel
Is anyone tired of him holding his camera down?
He does that for a reason.
He does it for privacy.
He does that for privacy reasons
2:11 testing ?
zone 9
Zone 9
Testing - Zone 9
My thoughts:
By "channel" does the system mean "SLC"?
Some of those speaker/strobes are redundant seeing as how there's already a speaker next to it, or vice versa.
Was the 4208 left in place or was it eventually removed, and if so what happened to it?
It looks like there were bigger pull stations where the T-bars in the older zoned devices portion are now, any idea if that was the case at one time?
Seems like where they REALLY need some of those large speakers is in the portion of the building you showed at the very beginning, where you could barely hear the speaker/strobes that were installed.
Any reason for pulling the handle on several t-bars down slightly even though the station's open?
5:29 Nice job breaking the breakrod in that t-bar, no wonder technicians usually just open the station because if they pulled it that would break the breakrod if one was installed.
11:34 Ah, I see the breakrod fell out of that t-bar, no wonder you had to go back and open it again even though you already tested that device.
Thanks for your observations. Channel is the Mapnet channel (loop). As for the 4208 it is gutted and only used as housing for wiring. This building is different as it was upgraded in phases thus the reasoning for different devices in certain areas per NFPA code & AHJ requirements at the time.
@@safetech What a shame that all the Simplex 4208 panels that anyone has ever run across are eventually gutted and used for wiring instead of the company removing the entire panel intact, what a waste of a nice vintage panel I say. Sure it's easier, but think of the collector's/enthusiast community!
1:53 I SEE IT
Testing channel 1 device
15:48
Testing 1 device 3 channel testing 1 device 3 channel
1:40 Can anyone make out what device no. that is?
Edit: I heard 2 1 7
Jonah Chang in A442 what were all the other devices in the building? It's those
Danny Playz
2 1 7
I only heard 4
That is 207
What type of building is
Says in the description.
Note: I’ve decided to come back to this video so I could know how an addressable panel works. Btw I forgot but I realized again that this is both an addressable and conventional panel
I’m building a huge addressable panel in Minecraft Pocket Edition and I think this vid helps a bit 👍
SAFETECH, may I ask why this video was privated for several months before finally being unprivated recently? (idiot building owner thinking their privacy was violated probably)
There was no identifying info to see anyways
@@littlewishy6432 Exactly, heck it seems like most of the ones he's privated don't violate privacy, yet he privated them anyway.
4:00 replacement by 7002T
15:53 4:05
Early
Hey SAFETECH nice job! You should check out my system test video! I have a 4100ES 2 bay with a FUI! Hope you enjoy it!!!
Thank you.
15:44 Pull The Alarm.
15:48 The Alarm Tone.
15:53 The Voice Message.
I like his a fire
1:47 I CAN SEE IT FAR
7AM16
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*fyuu*
No way,This panel is change a few panel.
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