This is just superb - one of the greatest literary critics and biographers in mutual interview with a nobel laureate chatting about 3 literary giants. What a pleasure. UA-cam is amazing at times.
Richard Ellmann is so much a kindly learned gentleman. The great Jewish diaspora contributed so much of value to our culture and times, bless them all.
Ellmann was still working on the Wilde biography in '82, as I recall. It was published in 1988. Meantime, he was suffering the beginnings of Lou Gehrig's disease in '81-'82...living in the St. Giles house in Oxford.
Damn, what a treasure, what a pleasure - had no idea this even existed. Ellman's marvelous Joyce bio beyond its immense acclaimed merits has this also: almost every page has humor as well, I need to read again - it's been decades!
I'm not sure Wilde had a particularly Irish sense of place ? His natural habitat was the glittering salons / theatres of late Victorian London . Rather like Yeats ....and Shaw ?
True about Wilde and Shaw, but Yeats was very close to Ireland his whole life. He was the major figure of the Irish Literary Revival centered in Dublin, was partly responsible for getting the Abbey Theatre up and running, and was later a senator in the senate of the new Irish Free State. He was always much more involved in Irish political and cultural life than Wilde or Shaw; or Joyce or Beckett for that matter.
They are not Gaelic surnames like O’Neill or such. Joyce is actually probably the most native Irish out of them all. I think that’s what has been noticed. These people are mostly the descendants of landed Anglo gentry and not of the native Gaelic population.
@@gregleonard1562 No brainer??? Are you serious?? UA-cam drowns these videos in disturbing advertisements, and then says "pay us and they will go away!" Anyone who actually does that is a fool. No brainer, indeed.
Wilde seems shoe-horned into the triumvirate, somewhat, in the sense that he is not remotely as identified with Ireland as the other two, whether that is fair or not. Not complaining, though, as it was a pleasure to listen to the exchange of thoughts on him as much as on the others.
@@hilariousname6826 I thought the same thing, but given his popularity, maybe they did not want to slight him. Oscar Wilde is interested enough to deserve his own conversation.
Interestingly, this part ua-cam.com/video/xG2vTbERE4g/v-deo.html appears to say 1982 [MCMLXXXII] while this clearly says 1992 [MCMXCII] ua-cam.com/video/xG2vTbERE4g/v-deo.html @Helen Fontsere' any idea?
According to its listing at a university library, it is definitely from 1982. It does not appear to have much traction, and may even qualify as “lost media,” in the sense that there is very little information about it despite it starring poet Seamus Heaney. This documentary does not even have a listing on Letterboxd, and that site contains a listing of most everything ever once filmed.
Seamus Healey,! A nice Man told the tales of my father and not nice to us at ballyscullion. Told the lives of us and my uncle.sam , good job to the awful poet ....x used our darkness for your fame....
It's either published in 1982 or 1992!? That's a ten year difference for god's sake. In that time I would build an underworld empire and run and ruin it like a blood-thirsty, bat-blind vampire by monotonous repetitions and too many blood sacrifices to boot; and that's not even a cliché, let alone a stretch. As ancient as this film looks and as archaic as its ethos and chamber music sound, it is not of any earlier production than of the year 1992 AD. Quite a shocking realisation but such is the grip and gist of history that one misses its true nature and destructive momentum for some cheap soap opera spin-off, lazy stock theatre piece, tableau of obscene burlesque or simplistic zimzalabim s(l)ide show while the infamous present moment is supposedly so surreal, palpable and real as if you were doing it with the Lady Oblivion or something all the time losing track of time. But alas, little did we know about the scheming, stealthy character of the motion picture called Hegelian progress as it unfolds before our indifferent eyes like a slow motion footage of a snail crossing a rusty Celtic cross on a god forsaken graveyard turned to a shopping mall parking lot somewhere in the suburbs of Dublin. - Yes, I'd better stop here or I will never catch the phrase I am after in my work of genius that is under progress but the progress is under heavy renovation and bombardment of criticism. Hello History, my old friend, don't you lull us on the bend. RIP Seamus Heaney, Richard Ellman, Oscar Wilde, W.B. Yates, James Joyce, and the rest of the resting cast cast into the shadowy gates of aforementioned Oblivion, all the good guys gone and the man in the wind and the west moon; we salute you.
I studied all this at 26 in my Master’s thesis. I’m 70 now. And young again.
I just signed up to a Masters in Irish literature. I hope it enriched your journey as I am hoping it will mine.
just seamus heaney and richard ellmann casually talking about joyce on a video with less than 20k views...
Two greats on three greats. Wonderful, intelligent, and absorbing.
This is just superb - one of the greatest literary critics and biographers in mutual interview with a nobel laureate chatting about 3 literary giants. What a pleasure. UA-cam is amazing at times.
'The diocese of the imagination?' What a gem!
Take a walk with Seamus Heaney and Richard Ellmann. Can you get any more joyous than that!?
What an absolute gem. This so natural conversation ouzes integrity. Such respect and insight between the two. Beautiful.
My Irish heritage sometimes haunts me until I run across something like this that grounds me.
Richard Ellmann is so much a kindly learned gentleman.
The great Jewish diaspora contributed so much of value to our culture and times, bless them all.
Richard Ellmann was a literary scholar and not a rabbi...
Thank you for sharing this. Cheers!
Ellmann was still working on the Wilde biography in '82, as I recall. It was published in 1988. Meantime, he was suffering the beginnings of Lou Gehrig's disease in '81-'82...living in the St. Giles house in Oxford.
Damn, what a treasure, what a pleasure - had no idea this even existed. Ellman's marvelous Joyce bio beyond its immense acclaimed merits has this also: almost every page has humor as well, I need to read again - it's been decades!
Fine insights between two men of glowing appreciation for literary arts and for each other's work. Thanks so much for posting!
That was wonderful. Thank you.
Seamus Heaney is the greatest of all Irish poets.
I would agree in the last 70 years. But Yeats? Lets not argue. We are blessed to have both.
Thank you.This is a gem.Noticed the pens at 29.14.Every second was remarkable.I am grateful.
Yes, between my finger and thumb...I'll dig with it. Sure did beautifully, thank you!
lovely! thank you for uploading.
Marvellous!
Thanks for this. Wonder-full to see and hear them both x
magnifique🎉
His Oscar Wilde really caught the spirit of Oscar.
This is all very interesting, Liam; I will save it to read some morning after breakfast.
Love from Emory! Student of your friend Donald Verene
Brendan Behan made more use of Howth, he was a regular sea swimmer.
WOW. XOX!
I'm not sure Wilde had a particularly Irish sense of place ?
His natural habitat was the glittering salons / theatres of
late Victorian London . Rather like Yeats ....and Shaw ?
True about Wilde and Shaw, but Yeats was very close to Ireland his whole life. He was the major figure of the Irish Literary Revival centered in Dublin, was partly responsible for getting the Abbey Theatre up and running, and was later a senator in the senate of the new Irish Free State. He was always much more involved in Irish political and cultural life than Wilde or Shaw; or Joyce or Beckett for that matter.
A bit stupid - Beethoven most of his life in Vienna, Stravinsky, Mann, Brecht, Menuhin, Rubinstein....get a life!
They are not Gaelic surnames like O’Neill or such. Joyce is actually probably the most native Irish out of them all. I think that’s what has been noticed. These people are mostly the descendants of landed Anglo gentry and not of the native Gaelic population.
@@Orourkebanjoclown 🤡
Why am I continuously annoyed by stupid ads?
Not sure why, I saw none. I think it’s between the algorithm and your watching habits. It seems to be targeted at individuals.
@@gregleonard1562 No brainer??? Are you serious?? UA-cam drowns these videos in disturbing advertisements, and then says "pay us and they will go away!" Anyone who actually does that is a fool. No brainer, indeed.
10:42 did he just say "the rizz of Ireland"?
Wilde seems shoe-horned into the triumvirate, somewhat, in the sense that he is not remotely as identified with Ireland as the other two, whether that is fair or not. Not complaining, though, as it was a pleasure to listen to the exchange of thoughts on him as much as on the others.
@@hilariousname6826 I thought the same thing, but given his popularity, maybe they did not want to slight him. Oscar Wilde is interested enough to deserve his own conversation.
Filmed in late 70s, early 80s????
Interestingly, this part ua-cam.com/video/xG2vTbERE4g/v-deo.html appears to say 1982 [MCMLXXXII] while this clearly says 1992 [MCMXCII] ua-cam.com/video/xG2vTbERE4g/v-deo.html
@Helen Fontsere' any idea?
@@JasonLaurvick Richard Ellmann died in 1987 so I guess it must be 1982?
According to its listing at a university library, it is definitely from 1982. It does not appear to have much traction, and may even qualify as “lost media,” in the sense that there is very little information about it despite it starring poet Seamus Heaney. This documentary does not even have a listing on Letterboxd, and that site contains a listing of most everything ever once filmed.
Looks somewhat earlier that 82, as the car models look older? But its so brilliantly insightful . Thank you.
Why does Eire not have. Awards for literature or something called. THE OSCARS
after Wilde?!?
On accounta that name's taken
Succinct bio...
www.independent.ie/life/james-joyce-a-dubliners-tale-of-chaos-sex-exile-34347648.html
Seamus Healey,! A nice Man told the tales of my father and not nice to us at ballyscullion. Told the lives of us and my uncle.sam , good job to the awful poet ....x used our darkness for your fame....
Very interesting, although, nothing is adding.
But a good place to begin!
It's either published in 1982 or 1992!? That's a ten year difference for god's sake. In that time I would build an underworld empire and run and ruin it like a blood-thirsty, bat-blind vampire by monotonous repetitions and too many blood sacrifices to boot; and that's not even a cliché, let alone a stretch. As ancient as this film looks and as archaic as its ethos and chamber music sound, it is not of any earlier production than of the year 1992 AD. Quite a shocking realisation but such is the grip and gist of history that one misses its true nature and destructive momentum for some cheap soap opera spin-off, lazy stock theatre piece, tableau of obscene burlesque or simplistic zimzalabim s(l)ide show while the infamous present moment is supposedly so surreal, palpable and real as if you were doing it with the Lady Oblivion or something all the time losing track of time. But alas, little did we know about the scheming, stealthy character of the motion picture called Hegelian progress as it unfolds before our indifferent eyes like a slow motion footage of a snail crossing a rusty Celtic cross on a god forsaken graveyard turned to a shopping mall parking lot somewhere in the suburbs of Dublin. - Yes, I'd better stop here or I will never catch the phrase I am after in my work of genius that is under progress but the progress is under heavy renovation and bombardment of criticism. Hello History, my old friend, don't you lull us on the bend. RIP Seamus Heaney, Richard Ellman, Oscar Wilde, W.B. Yates, James Joyce, and the rest of the resting cast cast into the shadowy gates of aforementioned Oblivion, all the good guys gone and the man in the wind and the west moon; we salute you.
Academic Oll 😅